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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Hitman_Forhire on February 11, 2006, 11:34:29 PM
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Actually I'm looking into this very seriously for the homebrew use. I've put together a mass of documentation and such and have so far come up with a very cheap turnaround for getting 100mg/ml [so you can do 1cc EOD or ED - your choice]
Yeilds 40ml
20 Pellets @ 200mg Tren Each = $60
4g Conv. Kit = $25
Pins for 12wks, eod = $10.50
PCT [clomid is fine] =XXX
Total - PCT = < $91.00
For less than 91 Bucks you got more than you need to do 100mg of finaject eod for 12 wks.
Whip up some clomid [or find some laying under the nearest book/pillow :D] and you're in business and with [mostly] no worries about gyno. Just be really sure you're extra careful and steril along the making process, and ensure that you hit clomid/PCT hard because I've read of some pretty serious shutdown after this.
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I found a great SIMPLE how to with pics here:
http://www.basskilleronline.com/finaplix_directions_01.html (http://www.basskilleronline.com/finaplix_directions_01.html)
Very Helpful...
I can post the link to the place he got that exact belt from is need be, I GUESS it's OK since it's legal, but I won't source post here.
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trust me bro, it is simple and VERY effective, very cheap as well compared what u could buy it for. worked great for me, no infections, no abcess, no nuttin! good luck
muscle
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Yeah, and luckily for me, that's one of the things I can ensure [cleanliness] I've done a ton of chemistry projects and have lots of experience ensuring that things don't get contaminated and remain sterile. I'm more than confident that I can make this work completely successful.
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Word!
I've got a chemistry background also (curse Chem Lab no more!) I would love to give something simple like this a shot.
Safety FIRST! 8)
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Yep, those instructions make this nearly fool proof if you understand anything about keeping things sterile and tidy. I've been scouring the net for a few weeks now and there are literally hundreds of places to get all the info you need.
I would recommend this to most to check into. I'll have all of my supply's soon and I"ll do a log on my progress to see how it goes. I plan to do some thorough testing with various dosages etc.
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would you mind pming me the site...?
thanks
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screw fina pellets, just get the powder.
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But powder isn't legal to buy OTC, or as available in small batches.
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Oh yeah, just for some info. "Component TH" [search on google.com or froogle.com for listings- NOTE that's not a source post ;D] ...But this does NOT have to be seperated as it's PURE TBA, it's not like provirin where you have to go through a big drawn out process to seperate it from Estrogen or anything, it's just a simple straight forward process.
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But powder isn't legal to buy OTC, or as available in small batches.
just curious, how much do you end up paying for the final product, price per 1000mg.....
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From powder? Not Sure I"m not using that, but if you mean from finaplix, it doesn't even come in that low of amount. The lowest you can get it is 2000mg. But for price sake I'm going do 4000mg at a time. The cost is rediculous for the final product alone. it's only:
Kit = $25
Pellets = $60
+ 1 hour of your time.
final result is 40ml of 100mg/ml.
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Ok it seems to me that after a little more research, when a place asks for "proof of cattle ownership" all they need is a feed reciept or something similar. This can be had tons of ways, I'll leave the creativity to you.
What else I found is that the cheapest place I could find the "Component TH" pellets at states that "PROOF OF CATTLE OWNERSHIP REQUIRED." ....I went 3/4 of the way through the ordering process and never saw anything like that. I heard rumored that sometimes you are asked upon signing by the UPS guy??? This sounds like total BS to me so I devised a plan though just in case. All you have to do is type up a bogus letter saying "Thanks for your "Cattle Ownership Verification" and then put a random name at the bottom and sign it. If the GUY Does ask you, [I'm sure UPS guys run across this like once in a lifetime or such:. then you can fire back with: "Oh I went ahead and faxed it with my order, I have the slip if you need to see it...." Then just whip that out to make him feel extra comfortable that he'd doing the right thing and after that he'll probably never ask you again.
I"m going to do an order using the above method soon. I hope to post a success in doing so as well. I'll keep you guys informed.
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Let us know bro :D
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OK I have done a couple conversions and I think the picture basskiller conversion is a good place to start
However here is were I disagree
Let your pellets sit in the magic for a couple days the glue binders will seperate then add the solution to the oil in a seperate vial
Not the oil to the solution in the same vial
That way your seperating the gunk before you mix with the oil
Filtering will be 100% easier and you do not have the same kind of settling in oil
The gunk settles much better in the magic solution than in oil less waste
Just my .02
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Awesome thanks NYCDVR, I"ll add that step in once I finish rounding up the materials, and I encourage any useful tips of this nature from other experienced home brewers! Thanks.
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Ok it seems to me that after a little more research, when a place asks for "proof of cattle ownership" all they need is a feed reciept or something similar. This can be had tons of ways, I'll leave the creativity to you.
What else I found is that the cheapest place I could find the "Component TH" pellets at states that "PROOF OF CATTLE OWNERSHIP REQUIRED." ....I went 3/4 of the way through the ordering process and never saw anything like that. I heard rumored that sometimes you are asked upon signing by the UPS guy??? This sounds like total BS to me so I devised a plan though just in case. All you have to do is type up a bogus letter saying "Thanks for your "Cattle Ownership Verification" and then put a random name at the bottom and sign it. If the GUY Does ask you, [I'm sure UPS guys run across this like once in a lifetime or such:. then you can fire back with: "Oh I went ahead and faxed it with my order, I have the slip if you need to see it...." Then just whip that out to make him feel extra comfortable that he'd doing the right thing and after that he'll probably never ask you again.
I"m going to do an order using the above method soon. I hope to post a success in doing so as well. I'll keep you guys informed.
Bro,
You don't have to go through all that just to buy some Finaplix pellets.
Do a google.com search and I can promise you that they won't ask for any proof of "cattle ownership". It's easy. I've done it.
If you have problems, PM me.
DIV
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Yeah, I saw plenty of places to get it but the one place that is about 40 dollars cheaper [per strip!!] mentions about the verification, so in the long run it might be worth my hassle as it would save me like 200 bucks on a carton. I'll hunt a bit more for some cheaper ones that dont' ask for it, [this place is just a Yahoo store, nothing crazy, they just have GREAT prices.] like 58 bucks for enough pellets to yeild 40ml. Which I don't mind paying a few extra for one strip. But I know a few guys who are also going to give this a shot bulk order is a better idea especially because it make it about 30 bucks per strip that way.
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Hitman, out of those sites you pmed me, please let me know which one you go with... thanks
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I hit ya back.
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When exactly does the backing process take place? I've only read about it from basskiller... It's not included in his picture directions.
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OK I have done a couple conversions and I think the picture basskiller conversion is a good place to start
However here is were I disagree
Let your pellets sit in the magic for a couple days the glue binders will seperate then add the solution to the oil in a seperate vial
Not the oil to the solution in the same vial
That way your seperating the gunk before you mix with the oil
Filtering will be 100% easier and you do not have the same kind of settling in oil
The gunk settles much better in the magic solution than in oil less waste
Just my .02
Could you explain what part of the process... I'd really appreciate it.. I wanna do it right... Like which picture do "you" say is backwards?
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The belt say they should be stored in the fridge.. after you convert should you still keep your tren in the fridge yout not using..?
thanks,
jamie
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Also muscle or hitman... after filter through the watman... should it look like theres some gunk left over in there?
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Muscle and Hitman, I keep tryin to pm you guys but it doesn't show as going through so if it did a few times my bad... but since this is just a "hypothetical" question...heres what the pm says...
"yeah thanks hitman for the good luck-- i made one bottle aldready, and started the 2nd, while the other two dissolve in the pellets.. Im follong basskillers directions except i filter the pellets with the "magic solution" (ba) into the oil vial after I remove 3 cc... But when i finish as the question I posted before... does the whatman filter look somewhat dirty like theres tren in it but not? cause i cant squeeze anymore out of it...
So like you said these should come out at 100mg/ml(cc) with 40ML... and at EOD that would equal 80 days... But listen what do you fellas think of running a half cc ED...?"
thanks,
jamie
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check ur pms bro
muscle
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Good deal, My "friend" finished the whole batch of 4 40ml vials... So at a 100mg/ml.... thats 320days worth if he runs it EOD... :)
thanks,
jamie
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man dogg, thats alot of tren, good luck with that, im in the midst of making some right now and i cant wait to get all jacked on it again.
muscle
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It's not gonna be used all at once.... Currently gonna order some more kits soon.
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no, when u convert everything and r ready to inject it, i would store it at room temp. like other gear
muscle
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With prices nowadays it is easier to just buy it.
Many people end up with infections because they just flat out don't know what they are doing.
Good luck on your Finaject brewing Hitman. I myself stopped doing this long ago...........
Easier to buy it from a legit source.
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I disagree with the above post stating to "just buy it from a legit source." 2 points:
1. Doing it yourself is as legal as it gets.
2. I would trust myself more than some mexicans doing the same thing in their bathtub!!
Now, my question is, 1 cc EOD for 12 weeks, with no other AS, is that a good cycle? Like a solid 10 pounds? Any ideas?
Thanks.
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I made the cycle myself and it's trem 100mg\m.. per 40cc--\cc vial... im plannig ,more than that hop3fully i can get my hands on somd eq and some HCG, either ijenctible/tablet winny's... the first several cycles of the tren specifically the fiest 3 gonn runn some ohter bulking shit....crticism please but dont hate just cause you aint as strong...
thanks,
your truly
jamie
what do you thin
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I disagree with the above post stating to "just buy it from a legit source." 2 points:
1. Doing it yourself is as legal as it gets.
2. I would trust myself more than some mexicans doing the same thing in their bathtub!!
Most people doing homebrew have no clue what they are doing. They are playing with their health. I'd rather pay someone and avoid the hassle.
QV was the best of the mexican brands, and they weren't making their gear in bathtubs. Their sterility was higher than yours, homebrewer. Not to mention their products tested out as containing what they were said to contain.
DIV
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Most people doing homebrew have no clue what they are doing. They are playing with their health. I'd rather pay someone and avoid the hassle.
QV was the best of the mexican brands, and they weren't making their gear in bathtubs. Their sterility was higher than yours, homebrewer. Not to mention their products tested out as containing what they were said to contain.
DIV
Sooo, pay someone else who doesn't know?
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Sooo, pay someone else who doesn't know?
What about my post didn't you understand, Jamie?
I'd trust QV's quality over yours.....without question if that's what you're asking.
DIV
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Well, I didn't buy from QV... and by me making my own, I can make sure of how sterile it is... It's that simple really... just need to follow directions and wear latex gloves... END OF STORY clean and ready to RUN.
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I disagree with the above post stating to "just buy it from a legit source." 2 points:
1. Doing it yourself is as legal as it gets.
2. I would trust myself more than some mexicans doing the same thing in their bathtub!!
Now, my question is, 1 cc EOD for 12 weeks, with no other AS, is that a good cycle? Like a solid 10 pounds? Any ideas?
Thanks.
Of course I have to disagree with your disagreement.
1. Doing it yourself is not as legal as it gets. It is illegal.
2. I won't even comment on this one because it's obvious you have no clue how to make AAS do you?
Now to your question. The answer is NO!!
Go put your head in the corner with the dunce hat on and don't post for atleast 2-3 months.
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Sooo, pay someone else who doesn't know?
Dude what the hell are you talking about?
If you have to worry that much it must suck to have your source.
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I was quoting him saying he'd buy it from some "other" homebrewer... Whats the difference...?
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Of course I have to disagree with your disagreement.
1. Doing it yourself is not as legal as it gets. It is illegal.
2. I won't even comment on this one because it's obvious you have no clue how to make AAS do you?
Now to your question. The answer is NO!!
Go put your head in the corner with the dunce hat on and don't post for atleast 2-3 months.
^BIG O......
You need to stick around and post.....
We need you.
DIV
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I'll be around.
The last six or so months have been hectic and I needed a break.
The feel for the board definitely has changed since I have been gone.
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I'll be around.
The last six or so months have been hectic and I needed a break.
The feel for the board definitely has changed since I have been gone.
Everything has changed.
The newbies, however, remain......
DIV
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Of course I have to disagree with your disagreement.
1. Doing it yourself is not as legal as it gets. It is illegal.
2. I won't even comment on this one because it's obvious you have no clue how to make AAS do you?
Now to your question. The answer is NO!!
Go put your head in the corner with the dunce hat on and don't post for atleast 2-3 months.
That was funny. I respect your 2000 posts, but I still have to disagree with you.
1. I was not saying it was legal! I said it is as legal "as it gets," and by saying that I mean you can buy the pellets legally, buy the kits legally, however, making injectable fina is illegal. As least you will not be busted in the actual delivery, ordering, etc. I was just stating that if you were to buy AAS, this is probably a safer way of going (from a legal standpoint).
2. You are telling me that labs in MEXICO are 100% sanitary? Thats funny. We all know how strict there FDA is there!
And the third comment, I still think tren EOD for 12 weeks will put on some solid gains...maybe not 20 pounds of keepable muscle.