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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: CT_Muscle on September 10, 2014, 11:07:53 AM
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http://youngcons.com/young-black-kids-in-ferguson-make-a-hey-white-people-video-its-sending-the-wrong-message/
Now im pretty sure if I made a video hey black people I would be branded a racist.... ::)
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#FuckFerguson
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no wonder white people don't want to attend Atlanta Hawks games
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They should have had Cswol as the white guy.
And, if everybody wants a full and frank discussion, black people are stopped and frisked more because they are far more lightly to be involved in violent crime. That's a proven statistic. It's actually a form of racism to ignore it and deny others the right to mention it.
Surely it's wiser that police actually try to stop violent crime by searching those most likely to commit it?
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They should have had Cswol as the white guy.
And, if everybody wants a full and frank discussion, black people are stopped and frisked more because they are far more lightly to be involved in violent crime. That's a proven statistic. It's actually a form of racism to ignore it and deny others the right to mention it.
Surely it's wiser that police actually try to stop violent crime by searching those most likely to commit it?
Koreans are stopped and searched less than whites, by the way.
I would suspect that, independent of 9/11, muslims and indians are even less likely to be stopped and frisked. When was the last time you heard on the news indians/muslims being murderers, rapists, or robbers? As stated, I am talking about more typical-based crime.
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They should have had Cswol as the white guy.
And, if everybody wants a full and frank discussion, black people are stopped and frisked more because they are far more lightly to be involved in violent crime. That's a proven statistic. It's actually a form of racism to ignore it and deny others the right to mention it.
Surely it's wiser that police actually try to stop violent crime by searching those most likely to commit it?
I call that common sense....liberals call that racism ::)
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I call that common sense....liberals call that racism ::)
In my opinion, it becomes more of a problem if you saw a black man in a business suit walking out of a Morgan Stanley building and decided to frisk him just because he's black.
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In my opinion, it becomes more of a problem if you saw a black man in a business suit walking out of a Morgan Stanley building and decided to frisk him just because he's black.
Agreed....I thought it goes without saying the "types" that would be worthy of a good friskin
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Agreed....I thought it goes without saying the "types" that would be worthy of a good friskin
The issue is that just because someone may look like a thug it does not mean they are. I mean, where do you draw the line? Its unreasonable to frisk everyone who looks like they would commit a crime.
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I would suspect that, independent of 9/11, muslims and indians are even less likely to be stopped and frisked. When was the last time you heard on the news indians/muslims being murderers, rapists, or robbers? As stated, I am talking about more typical-based crime.
Well, statistically, East Asians commit less crime than whites so I would not expect them to be stopped and frisked as much as whites.
I am not arguing that White is wonderful and brown is terrible. I just take issue with the video and the complaints that blacks are stopped and searched more than white people - it's because they commit more violent crime and are more likely to be carrying weapons. This is a cold, neutral fact.
If I did a 'hey black people' video saying you are stopped more than other racial groups - whites, remember, are stopped more than other racial groups - because you commit more crime. I would be labeled a racist, which I most certainly am not.
If it's racial profiling, so what? Why waste time searching people far, far less likely to be commiting or about to commit a crime?
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http://youngcons.com/young-black-kids-in-ferguson-make-a-hey-white-people-video-its-sending-the-wrong-message/
Now im pretty sure if I made a video hey black people I would be branded a racist.... ::)
no one owes you or your dip shit ancestors anything , go away and hide
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I call that common sense....liberals call that racism ::)
Exactly
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Well, statistically, East Asians commit less crime than whites so I would not expect them to be stopped and frisked as much as whites.
I am not arguing that White is wonderful and brown is terrible. I just take issue with the video and the complaints that blacks are stopped and searched more than white people - it's because they commit more violent crime and are more likely to be carrying weapons. This is a cold, neutral fact.
If I did a 'hey black people' video saying you are stopped more than other racial groups - whites, remember, are stopped more than other racial groups - because you commit more crime. I would be labeled a racist, which I most certainly am not.
If it's racial profiling, so what? Why waste time searching people far, far less likely to be commiting or about to commit a crime?
So then every black person should be stopped and frisked? How do you differentiate? What's the criteria? Pants lower than 4 inches off the waist? Wearing a doo-rag? Certain brand of clothing being worn? How would you go about setting it up to where black people can be stopped and frisked just because they are more likely to commit a crime? Pretending you had power or say in this matter.
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So then every black person should be stopped and frisked? How do you differentiate? What's the criteria? Pants lower than 4 inches off the waist? Wearing a doo-rag? Certain brand of clothing being worn? How would you go about setting it up to where black people can be stopped and frisked just because they are more likely to commit a crime? Pretending you had power or say in this matter.
Where did I say 'every' black person should be stopped and searched. Why do people on this website always resort to Straw man arguments? I said that statistically black people commit more violent crime and thus shouldn't be surprised that they are stopped and searched more.
Remember, they patrol high crime areas - that's the idea - and those neighbourhoods are often exclusively Black, so almost all the stop and searches will be on black people. It doesn't mean they stop all black people they come across like crazed harassers. They just focus on the people that arouse suspicion and they will, of course, likely be black.
It would be pandaemonium if we had your dream of stopping mostly Asians and whites and never bothering a black person for fear it could cause offence ( that's a Straw man ;D ).
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Where did I say 'every' black person should be stopped and searched. Why do people on this website always resort to Straw man arguments? I said that statistically black people commit more violent crime and thus shouldn't be surprised that they are stopped and searched more.
Remember, they patrol high crime areas - that's the idea - and those neighbourhoods are often exclusively Black, so almost all the stop and searches will be on black people. It doesn't mean they stop all black people they come across like crazed harassers. Just the people that aroused suspicion and they will, of course, likely be black.
It would be pandaemonium if we had your dream of stopping mostly Asians and whites and never bothering a black person for fear it could cause offence ( that's a Straw man ;D ).
In my opinion, your post implied that. Some things do not have to explicitly stated. That is why we have intuition. Maybe you just don't realize your unconscious racism. It may be seeping through your subtleties. :-\ :-\ ;D ;D
I do not think anyone should be stopped and frisked based on skin color (asian, white, black, etc), unless they are suspected of committing a crime, as you stated.
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They should have had Cswol as the white guy.
"Ayo, this is big Cswol reminding you that you gotta be swole to cswol, and we need set the pace to end all this hating because of race...., and oh yeah, buy that new Toka Swola mixtape droppin' .....".
(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10683922_347949375362333_1692899964_n.jpg).
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"Ayo, this is big Cswol reminding you that you gotta be swole to cswol, and we need set the pace to end all this hating because of race...., and oh yeah, buy that new Toka Swola mixtape droppin' .....".
(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10683922_347949375362333_1692899964_n.jpg).
Cswol is off his rocker!! Where did you get this pic from?
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They should have had Cswol as the white guy.
And, if everybody wants a full and frank discussion, black people are stopped and frisked more because they are far more lightly to be involved in violent crime. That's a proven statistic. It's actually a form of racism to ignore it and deny others the right to mention it.
Surely it's wiser that police actually try to stop violent crime by searching those most likely to commit it?
In fairness to black people look at the other stats white people are quicker to get hired and black neighbourhoods have more poverty so it all goes hand in hand, that is why they are angry.
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Cswol is off his rocker!! Where did you get this pic from?
Caption was mine, but you can see all things cswol here -
http://instagram.com/newwestgame .
He's got his new mixed tape, and is dropping hints of a alien/illuminati connection.
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Caption was mine, but you can see all things cswol here -
http://instagram.com/newwestgame .
He's got his new mixed tape, and is dropping hints of a alien/illuminati connection.
lol
(http://i58.tinypic.com/24g992s.jpg)
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LMAO!!
http://instagram.com/p/sxkQ7rufnb/?modal=true
click there, then click on the video.
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Sept 9, 2014....Cswol cruising in style
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2znqxy9.jpg)
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In my opinion, your post implied that. Some things do not have to explicitly stated. That is why we have intuition. Maybe you just don't realize your unconscious racism. It may be seeping through your subtleties. :-\ :-\ ;D ;D
I do not think anyone should be stopped and frisked based on skin color (asian, white, black, etc), unless they are suspected of committing a crime, as you stated.
Then your opinion is wrong. Things actually do need to be explicitly stated otherwise people start inferring. Then they infer wrongly, like you.
It's very simple:
Black people are stopped and searched more because they live in high crime neighbourhoods. You want the police patrolling high crime neighbourhoods - they should be trying to prevent crimes after all - so they will stop and search more black people. It doesn't mean they targeted all the black people , just the people that could possibly be committing, or about to commit, a crime. They will stop a small percentage of the people they observe but they will be black.
Therefore, you end up with a statistic that black people are stopped and searched more: they live in the highest crime areas. Police need to be stopping and searching people in those areas to prevent serious, violent crimes.
Anyway, it's not worth trying to have a serious discussion here so I will leave this alone now and go back to Bar Refaeli's anus, Joon's newest gimmick, much Radu about nothing.
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Ferguson, Missouri. ;D HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
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In my opinion, it becomes more of a problem if you saw a black man in a business suit walking out of a Morgan Stanley building and decided to frisk him just because he's black.
Does that happen very often? ???
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Sept 9, 2014....Cswol cruising in style
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2znqxy9.jpg)
Seems to have abandoned his diet :'(
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Does that happen very often? ???
Did I say it did?
I said, "IF........" Then it would be a problem. In fact, most (I can never say ALL) black men like this do not get stopped and frisked.
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The issue is that just because someone may look like a thug it does not mean they are. I mean, where do you draw the line? Its unreasonable to frisk everyone who looks like they would commit a crime.
Try working security some time. When I was younger I did security in clubs and supermarkets. Club didn't have to do profiling, more based on how drunk/high they were and if they caused trouble before.
In a supermarket it was people in flecky tracksuits, heroin addicts and travellers you always had to watch for. Travellers were the worst - the girls would do all these ridiculous diversion moves around cosmetics aisle. I just stood there, knew they wanted to steal fake tan etc. They would leave in a huff. Caught them at least 5 times trying to walk out full trollies with all sorts - from shampoos and nappies to roast chickens and pizza.
Junkies would try steal handbags or any high value item they could sell on like razor blades etc. They were just pathetic.
Sure, the odd middle aged man in a suit might have walked off with a bottle of whiskey and I didn't know about it (I caught one guy walking out with €300 of whiskey) but you would be an idiot not to profile. Certain groups commit more crimes, deal with it.
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Did I say it did?
I said, "IF........" Then it would be a problem. In fact, most (I can never say ALL) black men like this do not get stopped and frisked.
Why even float the supposition if it rarely or almost never happens?
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Try working security some time. When I was younger I did security in clubs and supermarkets. Club didn't have to do profiling, more based on how drunk/high they were and if they caused trouble before.
In a supermarket it was people in flecky tracksuits, heroin addicts and travellers you always had to watch for. Travellers were the worst - the girls would do all these ridiculous diversion moves around cosmetics aisle. I just stood there, knew they wanted to steal fake tan etc. They would leave in a huff. Caught them at least 5 times trying to walk out full trollies with all sorts - from shampoos and nappies to roast chickens and pizza.
Junkies would try steal handbags or any high value item they could sell on like razor blades etc. They were just pathetic.
Sure, the odd middle aged man in a suit might have walked off with a bottle of whiskey and I didn't know about it (I caught one guy walking out with €300 of whiskey) but you would be an idiot not to profile. Certain groups commit more crimes, deal with it.
Did I ever say that certain groups did not commit more crimes? No, I did not. Deal with it.
What I said is that how would one implement a policy for "stop and frisk" procedures. Second, does "stop and frisk" even reduce crime? Is there any evidence to suggest this? I am well aware that certain groups commit more crime than other groups. The question is how to reduce that statistic.
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Why even float the supposition if it rarely or almost never happens?
Because even if it happened ONCE, which I am sure it has, I am in a position to bring it up. Whether you like it or not.
When people are discussing, debating or implementing any policy, its quite common to bring up assumptions, even if they have not occurred in real life.
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Because even if it happened ONCE, which I am sure it has, I am in a position to bring it up. Whether you like it or not.
When people are discussing, debating or implementing any policy, its quite common to bring up assumptions, even if they have not occurred in real life.
So what. What does that have to do with the broader picture?
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Did I ever say that certain groups did not commit more crimes? No, I did not. Deal with it.
What I said is that how would one implement a policy for "stop and frisk" procedures. Second, does "stop and frisk" even reduce crime? Is there any evidence to suggest this? I am well aware that certain groups commit more crime than other groups. The question is how to reduce that statistic.
Just curious, how do you think a Terry Stop (stop and frisk) works?
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So what. What does that have to do with the broader picture?
Um, its all about the broader picture and thinking about how one variable may affect another variable, even in its broader context. You're always thinking about distal and proximal variables when discussing any matter.
I have never been in a meeting where people didn't do this.
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Did I ever say that certain groups did not commit more crimes? No, I did not. Deal with it.
What I said is that how would one implement a policy for "stop and frisk" procedures. Second, does "stop and frisk" even reduce crime? Is there any evidence to suggest this? I am well aware that certain groups commit more crime than other groups. The question is how to reduce that statistic.
OK you said this
The issue is that just because someone may look like a thug it does not mean they are. I mean, where do you draw the line? Its unreasonable to frisk everyone who looks like they would commit a crime.
It is unreasonable to assume they all are going to be criminals, yes, but from looking at someone in a given context you can make an informed decision that they are far more likely to be a criminal than another grouping.
If there is a 5% crime rate among the average population but a 40% crime rate in a specific grouping (it is close to this for travellers and that is underestimating it) you have to focus more attention on these people when you see them. Whether that means following them with a cctv camera, stopping and searching them or whatever, it is a logical action based on experience and statistical probability.
Whether or not it reduces crime is debatable. Crime is a way of life for some people. Travellers have a nomadic existence and are peripheral to normal society so they live by different rules. That may sound ridiculous/outrageous but fighting for money, theft, welfare fraud, organised theft are all widespread with travellers. I mean there are Irish travellers famous for stealing rhino horns around the world and selling to Chinese underground just as they steal copper wires and scrap metal here.
If you had a shop and they came in you'd watch them more than the sweet old lady wheeling around her bag.
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Um, its all about the broader picture and thinking about how one variable may affect another variable, even in its broader context. You're always thinking about distal and proximal variables when discussing any matter.
I have never been in a meeting where people didn't do this.
The problem is by titling a video Hey White People they are making the same kinds of behavioral and attitude generalizations about all white people they complain are happening to blacks Of course they will never realize how foolish and hypocritical this makes them look.
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The problem is by titling a video Hey White People they are making the same kinds of behavioral and attitude generalizations about all white people they complain are happening to blacks Of course they will never realize how foolish and hypocritical this makes them look.
Only white people can be racist, only men can be sexist and only straights can be bigoted.
The BBC have censored the word girl (yes girl, not getbig filter) and bossy in relation to women. Have people gone fucking insane?
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Only white people can be racist, only men can be sexist and only straights can be bigoted.
The BBC have censored the word girl (yes girl, not getbig filter) and bossy in relation to women. Have people gone fucking insane?
You're right. I totally forgot. We now live in a world were racial paranoia is so pervasive 1,400 girls being raped is preferable to doing the right thing.
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Stop and Frisk laws are unconstitutional no matter what color your skin is.
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Stop and Frisk laws are unconstitutional no matter what color your skin is.
^^^^^ This
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LMAO!!
http://instagram.com/p/sxkQ7rufnb/?modal=true
click there, then click on the video.
Da Fuq ??? ???
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Then your opinion is wrong. Things actually do need to be explicitly stated otherwise people start inferring. Then they infer wrongly, like you.
It's very simple:
Black people are stopped and searched more because they live in high crime neighbourhoods. You want the police patrolling high crime neighbourhoods - they should be trying to prevent crimes after all - so they will stop and search more black people. It doesn't mean they targeted all the black people , just the people that could possibly be committing, or about to commit, a crime. They will stop a small percentage of the people they observe but they will be black.
Therefore, you end up with a statistic that black people are stopped and searched more: they live in the highest crime areas. Police need to be stopping and searching people in those areas to prevent serious, violent crimes.
Anyway, it's not worth trying to have a serious discussion here so I will leave this alone now and go back to Bar Refaeli's anus, Joon's newest gimmick, much Radu about nothing.
A guy on the poli board actually argued the spirit of the law was racist because
A.they dont stop and frisk every race evenly
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B.its causing more black people to get caught commiting smaller time crimes, getting picked up for warrants, pot, etc.... and since theyre getting more black people than whites, its racist.
I still dont understand... theyre using statistics, coldnhard facts, to determine where to focus their efforts, and its racist because its succeeding in finding criminals....