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“Global Warming” Advocates Plan March Amid Record Cold Temperatures
Snow hits the ground in seven states as advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"
Later this month, activists are planning a march in New York City for “global warming awareness,” even though the northern U.S. is reeling from record cold temperatures.
Called the “largest climate march in history” by organizers, the “People’s Climate March” will occur on Sept. 21st, a few days before the United Nations will attempt to draft a “global warming” treaty on the same level as the controversial Kyoto Protocol.
“The Secretary-General has asked leaders to announce significant and substantial initiatives to help move the world toward a path that will limit global warming,” states a U.N. press release.
Yet, in contrast to that rhetoric, ice cold temperatures are shattering records across the U.S. and Antarctica’s sea ice is expanding at a record pace.
“Chicago seemingly switched from summer to fall overnight,” NBC Chicago reported yesterday. “Temperatures plunged from a high near 80 degrees on Wednesday to the mid-50s on Thursday, and by mid-day the area set a record low for high temps.”
“On this date in 1940, the coolest high temp was 61 degrees; on Thursday, O’Hare Airport recorded a high of 56 degrees.”
Snow blanketed Denver, Colo., yesterday and so far this summer, seven states have experienced snow on the ground.
Additionally, the National Weather Service issued a freeze warning for all of western Montana and portions of central Idaho for the rest of this week.
“The National Weather Service says a new record low temperature was set at Missoula, with Friday morning’s 25 degrees breaking the old record of 28 that was set back in September of 1988,” kaj18.com reported today. “The NWS also reports Kalispell also broke the cold weather record for this date, although it’s a mark that wasn’t as old.”
“This morning’s low of 23 degrees was below the old record of 24 that was set on Sept. 12, 2012.”
The NWS also said that further south, in Nebraska, current temperature dips have potential to break records.
And in the Southern Hemisphere, Antarctica is on pace to set the all-time sea ice extent maximum.
Satellite data shows that no global warming trend has occurred from Oct. 1996 to Aug. 2014, a period of nearly 18 years, and this period of cooling could last at least for another decade.
“Taking the least-squares linear-regression trend on Remote Sensing Systems’ satellite-based monthly global mean lower-troposphere temperature dataset, there has been no global warming – none at all – for at least 215 months,” wrote climate analyst Lord Christopher Monckton. “This is the longest continuous period without any warming in the global instrumental temperature record since the satellites first watched in 1979.”
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Do you even have a single clue about anything science related? You do not strike me as a genius. Should probably leave science related topics to people with actual knowledge.
For example I have VERY limited knowledge of anything related to this shit, and even I know:
When the temperature of the Earth's oceans rise it throws all kinds of shit completely haywire and out of whack...Where some places are uncharacteristically cold, other places are in severe never before seen drought.
It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years...Maybe this type of "big picture" thinking is beyond your scope of comprehension.
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Do you even have a single clue about anything science related? You do not strike me as a genius. Should probably leave science related topics to people with actual knowledge.
For example I have VERY limited knowledge of anything related to this shit, and even I know:
When the temperature of the Earth's oceans rise it throws all kinds of shit completely haywire and out of whack...Where some places are uncharacteristically cold, other places are in severe never before seen drought.
It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years...Maybe this type of "big picture" thinking is beyond your scope of comprehension.
I was laughing more that the left wing wack jobs wanted the UN to do something about it. lololololol
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Do you even have a single clue about anything science related? You do not strike me as a genius. Should probably leave science related topics to people with actual knowledge.
For example I have VERY limited knowledge of anything related to this shit, and even I know:
When the temperature of the Earth's oceans rise it throws all kinds of shit completely haywire and out of whack...Where some places are uncharacteristically cold, other places are in severe never before seen drought.
It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years...Maybe this type of "big picture" thinking is beyond your scope of comprehension.
With all due respect, you have just spouted nonsense. So global warming makes the earth hot, or cold, or windy or something? And are you saying that before humans caused global warming, the earth's weather was perfectly linear? Do you even think about the crap that you espouse?
By your own admission, you have no knowledge, yet you speak with the fervor of a convert. Perhaps you can see why those of us that live in the world of "facts" think of you of adhering to a holy gospel of global warming. A religion that requires fealty, but does not muddy it's acolytes with information.
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It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years...Maybe this type of "big picture" thinking is beyond your scope of comprehension.
It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years.......and it has absolutely zero to do with human beings.
This phony "issue", like everything else in politics, is about money.
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I was laughing more that the left wing wack jobs wanted the UN to do something about it. lololololol
hey, it's not just the left that bought into this crap. Palin got in trouble in 2008 for admitting she thought man was to blame for the temperature rising. newt and Pelosi sat on a couch whining about global warming. Mitt was in on it too.
The only thing you're shitting on the left for, is being slower to abandon global warming than most repubs did. It's like they were all idiot al gore clones - repubs just are slightly less idiot al gore clones. so congrats to them for that. They're the 35% clod in the gym making fun of the 42% bodyfat ladies on the treatmills. Hey, you're both fat and disgusting, ya know?
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All Gore's movie was called "An inconvenient truth".
It should have been call "A convenient way to punish and undermine capitalism".
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All Gore's movie was called "An inconvenient truth".
It should have been call "A convenient way to punish and undermine capitalism".
You got that shit right.
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When I was growing up, it was an incipient ice age. Then it started getting warmer, so the environmentalists quickly changed to global warming. No real diff: get the US to fork over fuck-tons of money to the UN and progressive think tanks.
Now the warming stopped 17 years ago and the warmists are fucked. Their models "proved" (think about how stupid that is: models proving anything) global warming was happening! So now they come up with stupid theories like "the heat sank to the bottom of the ocean" (I am not making this up). Or even better, they offer to replace the real observed data with their models! Think about that, "our models do not comport to reality, so we will change reality" Josef Stalin would be proud.
The only commonality here is the giant wealth transfer from the US to corrupt shit countries with the UN and various progressive billionaires taking their vig off the top.
And a bunch of useful idiots to parrot the lines.
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With all due respect, you have just spouted nonsense. So global warming makes the earth hot, or cold, or windy or something? And are you saying that before humans caused global warming, the earth's weather was perfectly linear? Do you even think about the crap that you espouse?
By your own admission, you have no knowledge, yet you speak with the fervor of a convert. Perhaps you can see why those of us that live in the world of "facts" think of you of adhering to a holy gospel of global warming. A religion that requires fealty, but does not muddy it's acolytes with information.
What part of what I said was nonsense?
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hey, it's not just the left that bought into this crap. Palin got in trouble in 2008 for admitting she thought man was to blame for the temperature rising. newt and Pelosi sat on a couch whining about global warming. Mitt was in on it too.
The only thing you're shitting on the left for, is being slower to abandon global warming than most repubs did. It's like they were all idiot al gore clones - repubs just are slightly less idiot al gore clones. so congrats to them for that. They're the 35% clod in the gym making fun of the 42% bodyfat ladies on the treatmills. Hey, you're both fat and disgusting, ya know?
You should change your name to the apologist.
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hey, it's not just the left that bought into this crap. Palin got in trouble in 2008 for admitting she thought man was to blame for the temperature rising. newt and Pelosi sat on a couch whining about global warming. Mitt was in on it too.
The only thing you're shitting on the left for, is being slower to abandon global warming than most repubs did. It's like they were all idiot al gore clones - repubs just are slightly less idiot al gore clones. so congrats to them for that. They're the 35% clod in the gym making fun of the 42% bodyfat ladies on the treatmills. Hey, you're both fat and disgusting, ya know?
Leave it to Rob to take a generic discussion over Global Warming and some how tie it into a response that includes both "Sarah Palin" and "2008" right off the bat :D
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Now the count of warmists' excuses for no actual observed warming is up to 52!
http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/12/there-are-now-52-explanations-for-the-pause-in-global-warming/
Absolute pants-pissing desperation.
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Biggest threat is geo-engineering and release of Methane which was bound in the ice.
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impressive ignorance
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I dont understand the objection by the right to the idea of global warming.
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I dont understand the objection by the right to the idea of global warming.
the idea of man's contributions implies big businesses, with smokestacks and whatnot... and big cars with crazy exhaust, are part of the problem.
dems love this. repubs hate this. dems want people in smaller cars and regulation over how much waste can be pumped out a smokestack. Repubs want big smoky cars and crazy pollution is cool if it means companies can make $ and grow.
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the idea of man's contributions implies big businesses, with smokestacks and whatnot... and big cars with crazy exhaust, are part of the problem.
dems love this. repubs hate this. dems want people in smaller cars and regulation over how much waste can be pumped out a smokestack. Repubs want big smoky cars and crazy pollution is cool if it means companies can make $ and grow.
Are you implying big businesses is manipulating the republican base for their own financial ends? ;D
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the idea of man's contributions implies big businesses, with smokestacks and whatnot... and big cars with crazy exhaust, are part of the problem.
dems love this. repubs hate this. dems want people in smaller cars and regulation over how much waste can be pumped out a smokestack. Repubs want big smoky cars and crazy pollution is cool if it means companies can make $ and grow.
lol at you still not understanding dems and repubs are the same.
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the *conspiracy theory* is that the oil companies want to make more money ::)
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lol at you still not understanding dems and repubs are the same.
Yes. With a few notable exceptions, they are all anti-individualist/corporatist.
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Dumb ass Coach couldn't contain his ass kickings to the political forum so he posts in here to the same effect.
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Man madeglobal warming is a load of shit
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yes agree
99% of scientists are trying to trick us!
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Man madeglobal warming is a load of shit
I will disagree here. Every action has a reaction. Do humans add to the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere? Yes. Ipso facto. Does an increase in CO2 cause a proximate "greenhouse effect?" Yes, witness Venus.
What is never countenanced is the feedback mechanisms our biosphere has to rid itself of excess. Just like an increase in testosterone in the body causes other hormonal reactions, our planet has similar. Algae blooms and enhanced tree growth for starters.
Plus, nobody wants to discuss the big yellow ball in the sky and it's role in our planet's temperature.
We warm the planet, but how much, is it self healing and does the sun trump all? Would like answers to those questions before we capriciously decide to cripple the economies of western civilization.
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Do you even have a single clue about anything science related? You do not strike me as a genius. Should probably leave science related topics to people with actual knowledge.
For example I have VERY limited knowledge of anything related to this shit, and even I know:
When the temperature of the Earth's oceans rise it throws all kinds of shit completely haywire and out of whack...Where some places are uncharacteristically cold, other places are in severe never before seen drought.
It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years...Maybe this type of "big picture" thinking is beyond your scope of comprehension.
Lol. Except you neglected to mention the part about the earth's natural warming and cooling cycles. This balance you speak of, well it actually went though its own cyclical ups and downs.
So, yeah.
Not quite the 'oh noooss, temp has never changed before humans the earth was in such perfect equilibrium but suddenly now its changing, end of world brrosss'
Same thing with species going extinct..... plenty of species went extinct before humans existed... if they couldnt survive, they ceased to exist.
Only humans are so arrogant that they think its our job to save every animal species from going extinct, because hell, if it werent for us, every species would live in perfect harmony and the earth would be one happy family where every animal had its own little ecosystem and food source, and theyd never go extinct.
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With all due respect, you have just spouted nonsense. So global warming makes the earth hot, or cold, or windy or something? And are you saying that before humans caused global warming, the earth's weather was perfectly linear? Do you even think about the crap that you espouse?
By your own admission, you have no knowledge, yet you speak with the fervor of a convert. Perhaps you can see why those of us that live in the world of "facts" think of you of adhering to a holy gospel of global warming. A religion that requires fealty, but does not muddy it's acolytes with information.
Well said. It's hard to take any of this seriously when the spokes person for global warming ( Al Gore) has a bigger carbon footprint than most small cities with his own personal jet and lush mansions.
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AHH another coach thread where he uses data from one country to determine global temperature, let's ignore and focus on this moron lord mockton or whatever.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths_arg.htm
He is not a climatologist and is not trained in science, the sentence you highlighted coach, it;s nonsensical.
He is a well known moron and has no idea what he is talking about.Look at the link, scroll down and watch as he of his retarded claims are rebutted by science,ie facts.
His claim that no temperature increases have occurred is just wrong. the 2000's were the hottest on record, lol, this guy can't even use a good lie. 2010 was a record for example, matching 2005. The earth is now warmer then any point in history, even the medievil warm period.
Coach there is only one truth, you have chosen to side with morons and alarmists.
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Lol. Except you neglected to mention the part about the earth's natural warming and cooling cycles. This balance you speak of, well it actually went though its own cyclical ups and downs.
So, yeah.
Not quite the 'oh noooss, temp has never changed before humans the earth was in such perfect equilibrium but suddenly now its changing, end of world brrosss'
Same thing with species going extinct..... plenty of species went extinct before humans existed... if they couldnt survive, they ceased to exist.
Only humans are so arrogant that they think its our job to save every animal species from going extinct, because hell, if it werent for us, every species would live in perfect harmony and the earth would be one happy family where every animal had its own little ecosystem and food source, and theyd never go extinct.
we know about all teh variables involved in climate, nothing accounts for this unprecedented heating, never seen before, EVER.
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we know about all teh variables involved in climate, nothing accounts for this unprecedented heating, never seen before, EVER.
Complete bullshit. You can't say that because we don't have data for "EVER", so really GTFO with your tired shit.
And FFS, you pretend the SUN has no impact. How can anybody take your shit seriously?
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we know about all teh variables involved in climate, nothing accounts for this unprecedented heating, never seen before, EVER.
Id be less skeptical if
A.there wasnt so much money to be made from green hysteria
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B.we actually had real data spanning the lengths of the earths existence to compare against.
I mean we have what, a couple hundred years of recorded temp data, AT BEST, and everything else is basically speculation using whatever scraps of data we can gather....and the further we go back the less accurate those models are.
Were GUESSING at what the temp was 500 years ago, let alone thousands of years ago.... and people are trying to make me hysterical when there is billions of dollars to be gained if they succeed.
Sorry, not taking that bait easily.
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Complete bullshit. You can't say that because we don't have data for "EVER", so really GTFO with your tired shit.
And FFS, you pretend the SUN has no impact. How can anybody take your shit seriously?
Where did I say the sun had no impact? it;s one of the variables that is well accounted for. the sun has cycles.
This debate is over, it's happening and it's man made, the world of scientists agree. The sun doesnt accoutn for it, natural cycles don't accoutn for it, we know earths sinks and sources, you guys are like 60 years behind with your arguments and objections.
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Id be less skeptical if
A.there wasnt so much money to be made from green hysteria
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B.we actually had real data spanning the lengths of the earths existence to compare against.
I mean we have what, a couple hundred years of recorded temp data, AT BEST, and everything else is basically speculation using whatever scraps of data we can gather....and the further we go back the less accurate those models are.
Were GUESSING at what the temp was 500 years ago, let alone thousands of years ago.... and people are trying to make me hysterical when there is billions of dollars to be gained if they succeed.
Sorry, not taking that bait easily.
There is alot of money to be lost as well, perhaps you should think which side is vested in truth and which is invested in money. I would agree with you if the whole world didn't have a consensus, only in the US is this even a debate dude, it's all political.
I don't think we are guessing we use things like ice cores, fossils and rock to go back a million years to measure atmosphere, it's not a guess like you are making it sound, it's objective verifiable data that is still used with great accuracy.
you are attacking the idea not the science, I have no vested interest in this expect truth, the facts are there.
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There is alot of money to be lost as well, perhaps you should think which side is vested in truth and which is invested in money. I would agree with you if the whole world didn't have a consensus, only in the US is this even a debate dude, it's all political.
I don't think we are guessing we use things like ice cores, fossils and rock to go back a million years to measure atmosphere, it's not a guess like you are making it sound, it's objective verifiable data that is still used with great accuracy.
you are attacking the idea not the science, I have no vested interest in this expect truth, the facts are there.
Its a guess dude. Its a scientific, educated guess, but its still a guess. They dont have hard data, thats the only way they could try and model the data to get close, so thays what they did. But in the end, its still a guess.
And im sorry, just because there is a concensus doesnt mean shit to me. It really doesnt mean anything, look at how many things weve had a 'scientific concensus' on throughout history, and then look how many times weve found that to be wrong down the road.
Same thing throughout history. Scientists of the era scream 'this is how it is, this is what the data tells us, it has to be this, theres no other option'. Fast forward 10, 20, 50 years, and whoops, uh oh, new data comes out and shows just how wrong that concensus was.
Thats why its a theory, its not a scientific fact yet, because theyre constantly having to reevaluate things as new data becomes available.
Trying to pass it off as fact instead of theory is just as irresponsible as completely writing it off as impossible IMO.
Im sure that everything we do contributes to the changes in our atmosphere, but i really am not convinced that its so far outside of the earths norms that we need to panic... frankly because we really have no solid idea what the range of 'earth normal' is.
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somebody please tell me why thousands of scientists no longer debate this - really it's like 97%
should we be suspicious of their fancy instruments and so on?
is there something nefarious afoot among the scientists?
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Those with vested interests in trying to destroy fossil fuels such as Tom Steyer or in trying to destroy American-based oil companies such as Soros have their flunkies whip everyone into a frenzy over the temperature rising a percent every ten thousand years or whatever. They fail to mention that scientists not in on the propaganda will tell you that cold temperatures are actually worse, and that there's no proof we're the cause anyway.
And then you have China and other countries who won't do anything to slow down pollution they're creating no matter what. There's no point in us destroying our economy by going to unreasonable and excessive levels of attempting to control our own pollution as long as they're not lowering theirs.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html)
As for American oil companies, the big boys actually put a great deal of time and money into alternative energies. Another myth perpetuated by those trying to destroy the oil companies or who don't know better is that oil companies are only into oil and want to destroy all other possible sources of energy. Exxon and Chevron have some of the smartest people on earth working for them.
An “all of the above” approach to energy is best, and is in fact what major oil / energy companies live by, believe it or not. It’s those on the far left who actually DON’T follow the “all of the above” – they want to take fossil fuels out of the equation.
It’s not practical at this time to abandon fossil fuels. Energy needs to be affordable, reliable, reasonably efficient, and able to be mass produced on a big enough level quickly enough to be able to serve our needs. When we have alternative energies that can do that, they will be in demand and “oil” companies and everyone else will be onboard.
Alternative forms of energy have to be good enough to survive in the free market. You cannot have big govt forcing such forms of energy on everyone, giving such companies special favors while deliberately trying to destroy oil companies, and bailing their chosen companies out with our tax dollars over and over when their products don’t work on a large scale the way they need to.
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there is no doubt, the world agree's.
It doesn;'t matter how much bullshit you post by right wing morons with no education in the field.
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if we can agree that scientists (97% of them) are wrong about this
threatening our *precious* bodily fluids and so on...
Perhaps we should move on to what to do about it?
Any ideas guys?!?!
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It took 200 years for the church to accept that the earth moved around the sun.
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Perhaps we can incarcerate ALL the scientists and bury them in unmarked graves?
like the church did to Galileo
sounds about right
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when people doubt facts you know we have problems.
where opinions are facts.There is an anti-intellectual movement in the US.
97% of scientists agreee all over the WORLD. all of the liberal environment loving al gores. Trying to correct a real problem? communist.
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the popular fear of intellectuals goes way back.. the situation is compounded by the contemporary public relations industry, which is owned by the folks who are threatened by this information.
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the popular fear of intellectuals goes way back.. the situation is compounded by the contemporary public relations industry, which is owned by the folks who are threatened by this information.
it's laughable to argue against at this point lol. I mean there is data coming out daily and the severity of the issue and we are arguing with morons about whether it's happening. Joe is posting articles using weather in Atlanta to make an argument.
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AHH another coach thread where he uses data from one country to determine global temperature, let's ignore and focus on this moron lord mockton or whatever.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths_arg.htm
He is not a climatologist and is not trained in science, the sentence you highlighted coach, it;s nonsensical.
He is a well known moron and has no idea what he is talking about.Look at the link, scroll down and watch as he of his retarded claims are rebutted by science,ie facts.
His claim that no temperature increases have occurred is just wrong. the 2000's were the hottest on record, lol, this guy can't even use a good lie. 2010 was a record for example, matching 2005. The earth is now warmer then any point in history, even the medievil warm period.
Coach there is only one truth, you have chosen to side with morons and alarmists.
what part of this thread are you missing?
“Global Warming” Advocates Plan March Amid Record Cold Temperatures
Snow hits the ground in seven states as advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"
advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"
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it's laughable to argue against at this point lol. I mean there is data coming out daily and the severity of the issue and we are arguing with morons about whether it's happening. Joe is posting articles using weather in Atlanta to make an argument.
37% of US voters believe global warming is a *HOAX* :o
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I can imagine coach's gay ass literally "rolling on the floor laughing his ass off "
(Because he's an autistic pumpkin headed. Retard)
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37% of US voters believe global warming is a *HOAX* :o
And I am sure a large percentage of US voters also believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. :-\ :-\
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what part of this thread are you missing?
“Global Warming” Advocates Plan March Amid Record Cold Temperatures
Snow hits the ground in seven states as advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"
advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"
What am I missing? it snowed?
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I was laughing more that the left wing wack jobs wanted the UN to do something about it. lololololol
They will form a daisy chain of peace :D
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And I am sure a large percentage of US voters also believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. :-\ :-\
the population polls steady at 40-50% young earthers
this bewildered herd is running full speed to the precipice!!!
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6000 years ago the plains people would stampede the buffalo off a cliff then grab the carcasses. The buffalo was easy to herd up and didn't see very well. They couldn't tell the difference between a pile of rocks or a man.
The Europeans came and wiped most of the animals out in about 100 years.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Bison_skull_pile_edit.jpg)
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Wow it sure is nice to be back where global warming threads are debated routinely. IMO I think humans don't contribute quite as much as Gore and the liberals want you to believe. If anything, countries like China are doing the most damage anyway so why worry about it! Their unregulated pollution should be more of a worry than the USAs and Europe.
And before one of you retards brings that uneducated BS junk, I'm well experienced as a air quality engineer and am made to address the global warming issues often as it relates to future traffic.
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Wow it sure is nice to be back where global warming threads are debated routinely. IMO I think humans don't contribute quite as much as Gore and the liberals want you to believe. If anything, countries like China are doing the most damage anyway so why worry about it! Their unregulated pollution should be more of a worry than the USAs and Europe.
And before one of you retards brings that uneducated BS junk, I'm well experienced as a air quality engineer and am made to address the global warming issues often as it relates to future traffic.
Cool story bro.
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a buffalo is like 1000lbs of muscle but it's not too smart.
Actually it's a stupid animal that will run off a cliff if you spook it.
no debates here just a stampede of stupid buffalo
(http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/plateaus/prehistory/images/mural2-lg.jpg)