ROFLMAO.....

[Shockwave]

Do you even have a single clue about anything science related? You do not strike me as a genius. Should probably leave science related topics to people with actual knowledge.

For example I have VERY limited knowledge of anything related to this shit, and even I know:

When the temperature of the Earth's oceans rise it throws all kinds of shit completely haywire and out of whack...Where some places are uncharacteristically cold, other places are in severe never before seen drought.

It is a very sensitive balance developed over billions of years...Maybe this type of "big picture" thinking is beyond your scope of comprehension.

Lol. Except you neglected to mention the part about the earth's natural warming and cooling cycles. This balance you speak of, well it actually went though its own cyclical ups and downs.

So, yeah.

Not quite the 'oh noooss, temp has never changed before humans the earth was in such perfect equilibrium but suddenly now its changing, end of world brrosss'

Same thing with species going extinct..... plenty of species went extinct before humans existed... if they couldnt survive, they ceased to exist.

Only humans are so arrogant that they think its our job to save every animal species from going extinct, because hell, if it werent for us, every species would live in perfect harmony and the earth would be one happy family where every animal had its own little ecosystem and food source, and theyd never go extinct.

[DanielPaul]

With all due respect, you have just spouted nonsense. So global warming makes the earth hot, or cold, or windy or something? And are you saying that before humans caused global warming, the earth's weather was perfectly linear? Do you even think about the crap that you espouse?

By your own admission, you have no knowledge, yet you speak with the fervor of a convert. Perhaps you can see why those of us that live in the world of "facts" think of you of adhering to a holy gospel of global warming. A religion that requires fealty, but does not muddy it's acolytes with information.

Well said.  It's hard to take any of this seriously when the spokes person for global warming ( Al Gore) has a bigger carbon footprint than most small cities with his own personal jet and lush mansions.

[Necrosis]

AHH another coach thread where he uses data from one country to determine global temperature, let's ignore and focus on this moron lord mockton or whatever.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths_arg.htm

He is not a climatologist and is not trained in science, the sentence you highlighted coach, it;s nonsensical.

He is a well known moron and has no idea what he is talking about.Look at the link, scroll down and watch as he of his retarded claims are rebutted by science,ie facts.

His claim that no temperature increases have occurred is just wrong. the 2000's were the hottest on record, lol, this guy can't even use a good lie. 2010 was a record for example, matching 2005. The earth is now warmer then any point in history, even the medievil warm period.

Coach there is only one truth, you have chosen to side with morons and alarmists.

[Necrosis]

Lol. Except you neglected to mention the part about the earth's natural warming and cooling cycles. This balance you speak of, well it actually went though its own cyclical ups and downs.

So, yeah.

Not quite the 'oh noooss, temp has never changed before humans the earth was in such perfect equilibrium but suddenly now its changing, end of world brrosss'

Same thing with species going extinct..... plenty of species went extinct before humans existed... if they couldnt survive, they ceased to exist.

Only humans are so arrogant that they think its our job to save every animal species from going extinct, because hell, if it werent for us, every species would live in perfect harmony and the earth would be one happy family where every animal had its own little ecosystem and food source, and theyd never go extinct.

we know about all teh variables involved in climate, nothing accounts for this unprecedented heating, never seen before, EVER.

[_aj_]

we know about all teh variables involved in climate, nothing accounts for this unprecedented heating, never seen before, EVER.

Complete bullshit. You can't say that because we don't have data for "EVER", so really GTFO with your tired shit.

And FFS, you pretend the SUN has no impact. How can anybody take your shit seriously?

[Shockwave]

we know about all teh variables involved in climate, nothing accounts for this unprecedented heating, never seen before, EVER.

Id be less skeptical if

A.there wasnt so much money to be made from green hysteria

And

B.we actually had real data spanning the lengths of the earths existence to compare against.

I mean we have what, a couple hundred years of recorded temp data, AT BEST, and everything else is basically speculation using whatever scraps of data we can gather....and the further we go back the less accurate those models are.

Were GUESSING at what the temp was 500 years ago, let alone thousands of years ago.... and people are trying to make me hysterical when there is billions of dollars to be gained if they succeed.

Sorry, not taking that bait easily.

[Necrosis]

Complete bullshit. You can't say that because we don't have data for "EVER", so really GTFO with your tired shit.

And FFS, you pretend the SUN has no impact. How can anybody take your shit seriously?

Where did I say the sun had no impact? it;s one of the variables that is well accounted for. the sun has cycles.
 
This debate is over, it's happening and it's man made, the world of scientists agree. The sun doesnt accoutn for it, natural cycles don't accoutn for it, we know earths sinks and sources, you guys are like 60 years behind with your arguments and objections.

[Necrosis]

Id be less skeptical if

A.there wasnt so much money to be made from green hysteria

And

B.we actually had real data spanning the lengths of the earths existence to compare against.

I mean we have what, a couple hundred years of recorded temp data, AT BEST, and everything else is basically speculation using whatever scraps of data we can gather....and the further we go back the less accurate those models are.

Were GUESSING at what the temp was 500 years ago, let alone thousands of years ago.... and people are trying to make me hysterical when there is billions of dollars to be gained if they succeed.

Sorry, not taking that bait easily.

There is alot of money to be lost as well, perhaps you should think which side is vested in truth and which is invested in money. I would agree with you if the whole world didn't have a consensus, only in the US is this even a debate dude, it's all political.

I don't think we are guessing we use things like ice cores, fossils and rock to go back a million years to measure atmosphere, it's not a guess like you are making it sound, it's objective verifiable data that is still used with great accuracy.

you are attacking the idea not the science, I have no vested interest in this expect truth, the facts are there.

[Shockwave]

There is alot of money to be lost as well, perhaps you should think which side is vested in truth and which is invested in money. I would agree with you if the whole world didn't have a consensus, only in the US is this even a debate dude, it's all political.

I don't think we are guessing we use things like ice cores, fossils and rock to go back a million years to measure atmosphere, it's not a guess like you are making it sound, it's objective verifiable data that is still used with great accuracy.

you are attacking the idea not the science, I have no vested interest in this expect truth, the facts are there.

Its a guess dude. Its a scientific, educated guess, but its still a guess. They dont have hard data, thats the only way they could try and model the data to get close, so thays what they did. But in the end, its still a guess.

And im sorry, just because there is a concensus doesnt mean shit to me. It really doesnt mean anything, look at how many things weve had a 'scientific concensus' on throughout history, and then look how many times weve found that to be wrong down the road.

Same thing throughout history. Scientists of the era scream 'this is how it is, this is what the data tells us, it has to be this, theres no other option'. Fast forward 10, 20, 50 years, and whoops, uh oh, new data comes out and shows just how wrong that concensus was.

Thats why its a theory, its not a scientific fact yet, because theyre constantly having to reevaluate things as new data becomes available.

Trying to pass it off as fact instead of theory is just as irresponsible as completely writing it off as impossible IMO.

Im sure that everything we do contributes to the changes in our atmosphere, but i really am not convinced that its so far outside of the earths norms that we need to panic... frankly because we really have no solid idea what the range of 'earth normal' is.

[mr.turbo]

somebody please tell me why thousands of scientists no longer debate this - really it's like 97%

should we be suspicious of their fancy instruments and so on?

is there something nefarious afoot among the scientists?

[2Thick]

Those with vested interests in trying to destroy fossil fuels such as Tom Steyer or in trying to destroy American-based oil companies such as Soros have their flunkies whip everyone into a frenzy over the temperature rising a percent every ten thousand years or whatever. They fail to mention that scientists not in on the propaganda will tell you that cold temperatures are actually worse, and that there's no proof we're the cause anyway.

And then you have China and other countries who won't do anything to slow down pollution they're creating no matter what. There's no point in us destroying our economy by going to unreasonable and excessive levels of attempting to control our own pollution as long as they're not lowering theirs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html


As for American oil companies, the big boys actually put a great deal of time and money into alternative energies. Another myth perpetuated by those trying to destroy the oil companies or who don't know better is that oil companies are only into oil and want to destroy all other possible sources of energy. Exxon and Chevron have some of the smartest people on earth working for them.

An “all of the above” approach to energy is best, and is in fact what major oil / energy companies live by, believe it or not. It’s those on the far left who actually DON’T follow the “all of the above” – they want to take fossil fuels out of the equation.

It’s not practical at this time to abandon fossil fuels. Energy needs to be affordable, reliable, reasonably efficient, and able to be mass produced on a big enough level quickly enough to be able to serve our needs. When we have alternative energies that can do that, they will be in demand and “oil” companies and everyone else will be onboard.

Alternative forms of energy have to be good enough to survive in the free market. You cannot have big govt forcing such forms of energy on everyone, giving such companies special favors while deliberately trying to destroy oil companies, and bailing their chosen companies out with our tax dollars over and over when their products don’t work on a large scale the way they need to.

[Necrosis]

there is no doubt, the world agree's.

It doesn;'t matter how much bullshit you post by right wing morons with no education in the field.

[mr.turbo]

if we can agree that scientists (97% of them) are wrong about this

threatening our *precious* bodily fluids and so on...

Perhaps we should move on to what to do about it?

Any ideas guys?!?!

[mr.turbo]

It took 200 years for the church to accept that the earth moved around the sun.

[mr.turbo]

Perhaps we can incarcerate ALL the scientists and bury them in unmarked graves?

like the church did to Galileo

sounds about right

[Necrosis]

when people doubt facts you know we have problems.
 where opinions are facts.There is an anti-intellectual movement in the US.

97% of scientists agreee all over the WORLD. all of the liberal environment loving al gores. Trying to correct a real problem? communist.

[mr.turbo]

the popular fear of intellectuals goes way back.. the situation is compounded by the contemporary public relations industry, which is owned by the folks who are threatened by this information.

 

[Necrosis]

the popular fear of intellectuals goes way back.. the situation is compounded by the contemporary public relations industry, which is owned by the folks who are threatened by this information.

 

it's laughable to argue against at this point lol. I mean there is data coming out daily and the severity of the issue and we are arguing with morons about whether it's happening. Joe is posting articles using weather in Atlanta to make an argument.

[Coach is Back!]

AHH another coach thread where he uses data from one country to determine global temperature, let's ignore and focus on this moron lord mockton or whatever.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths_arg.htm

He is not a climatologist and is not trained in science, the sentence you highlighted coach, it;s nonsensical.

He is a well known moron and has no idea what he is talking about.Look at the link, scroll down and watch as he of his retarded claims are rebutted by science,ie facts.

His claim that no temperature increases have occurred is just wrong. the 2000's were the hottest on record, lol, this guy can't even use a good lie. 2010 was a record for example, matching 2005. The earth is now warmer then any point in history, even the medievil warm period.

Coach there is only one truth, you have chosen to side with morons and alarmists.

what part of this thread are you missing?

“Global Warming” Advocates Plan March Amid Record Cold Temperatures
Snow hits the ground in seven states as advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"

advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"

[mr.turbo]

it's laughable to argue against at this point lol. I mean there is data coming out daily and the severity of the issue and we are arguing with morons about whether it's happening. Joe is posting articles using weather in Atlanta to make an argument.

37% of US voters believe global warming is a *HOAX*  

[Var City]

I can imagine coach's gay ass literally "rolling on the floor laughing his ass off "

(Because he's an autistic pumpkin headed. Retard)

[SF1900]

37% of US voters believe global warming is a *HOAX*  

And I am sure a large percentage of US voters also believe the earth is only 6,000 years old.  

[Voice of Doom]

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[Necrosis]

what part of this thread are you missing?

“Global Warming” Advocates Plan March Amid Record Cold Temperatures
Snow hits the ground in seven states as advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"

advocates demand U.N. response to "global warming"

What am I missing? it snowed?

[Howard]

I was laughing more that the left wing wack jobs wanted the UN to do something about it. lololololol

They will form a daisy chain of peace