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Title: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 04:51:41 PM
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 09, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
Fucking Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Mr. No on October 09, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
No
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2014, 05:02:46 PM
Most people under the age of about 30 are dumb as hell.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2014, 05:05:59 PM
Most people under the age of about 30 are dumb as hell.

True, but I wonder what Professors of History would say about this.

It would be interesting to interview a History Professor of 30+ years on their take about the ISIS situation. I wonder if they would give the same answer. Ever notice that most of these news sources (MSNBC or Foxnews) never have on Professors with PhDs in History? Unless I am totally wrong. But id like to see an expert on this topic be interviewed. True Adonis, have you seen anything like this?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
True, but I wonder what Professors of History would say about this.

It would be interesting to interview a History Professor of 30+ years on their take about the ISIS situation. I wonder if they would give the same answer. Ever notice that most of these news sources (MSNBC or Foxnews) never have on Professors with PhDs in History? Unless I am totally wrong. But id like to see an expert on this topic be interviewed. True Adonis, have you seen anything like this?

I don't know but watch this Mooslim destroy these two nitwits:


Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 05:14:22 PM

Sam Harris already destroyed the Muslim loser Reza.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Ron Harrigan on October 09, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
Most people under the age of about 30 are dumb as hell.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
Sam Harris already destroyed the Muslim loser Reza.


I can't really be bothered to watch 90 minutes sorry.

I don't really know anything about Reza I just like watching newspeople get blasted.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2014, 05:19:04 PM
Sam Harris already destroyed the Muslim loser Reza.


Love Sam Harris. Thanks for this, TA.

TA, have you ever baked an apple turnover?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
I can't really be bothered to watch 90 minutes sorry.

I don't really know anything about Reza I just like watching newspeople get blasted.
He is a Muslim who is head of Islamist studies.  A religious moron.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
Fixed.

Please do not quote my posts without permission.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
A white kid at Harvard is not "dumb." He or she may be clueless as to what is going on in the world around them but they are neither dumb or morons.

Does your boyfriend go there?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
Love Sam Harris. Thanks for this, TA.

TA, have you ever baked an apple turnover?
No.  I deep fry them.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: ENZO on October 09, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
They've been brainwashed and filled with white guilt. Cultural collapse in full effect.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
He is a Muslim who is head of Islamist studies.  A religious moron.

"Islamist Studies" oh brother

His wife appears to be hot though
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Ron Harrigan on October 09, 2014, 05:29:09 PM
Please do not quote my posts without permission.

If you do not enjoy being corrected then maybe Getbig is not for you.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Ron Harrigan on October 09, 2014, 05:36:24 PM
He is a Muslim who is head of Islamist studies.  A religious moron.

Of course he is.

Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: el numero uno on October 09, 2014, 05:56:50 PM
A white kid at Harvard is not "dumb." He or she may be clueless as to what is going on in the world around them but they are neither dumb or morons.

This. Some people sleep better at night by thinking others are not as smart as them.  ::)
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 09, 2014, 06:18:32 PM
Most people under the age of about 30 are dumb as hell.

This is why I don't think college kids should be able to vote.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
This is why I don't think college kids should be able to vote.

So, if youre under 30 but not in college, you should be able to vote?  ::) ::) ??? ???

I assure you that the 30 year olds who are not in college are not any more brilliant than the ones who are in college.

Not to mention all of the 80 year old senile people who only care about one thing: Their social security and vote for someone purely based on that one factor.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 09, 2014, 06:49:40 PM
So, if youre under 30 but not in college, you should be able to vote?  ::) ::) ??? ???

I assure you that the 30 year olds who are not in college are not any more brilliant than the ones who are in college.

Not to mention all of the 80 year old senile people who only care about one thing: Their social security and vote for someone purely based on that one factor.  ::) ::)

Yes, all of them too. Generally anybody who doesn't think like me.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
Yes, all of them too. Generally anybody who doesn't think like me.

Spoken like a true Getbigger.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: jude2 on October 09, 2014, 07:23:15 PM
Some say these liberal schools are the down fall of America.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2014, 07:38:35 PM
Some say these liberal schools are the down fall of America.

These same liberal schools are also producing scientists who develop medications and cure for diseases that keep you alive. They also develop technology that makes your life much easier.

If you took away every scientist from these liberal schools, THAT would be the downfall of America.

Notable faculty

Harvard's faculty includes scholars such as biologist E. O. Wilson, cognitive scientist Steven Pinker, physicists Lisa Randall and Roy Glauber, chemists Elias Corey, Dudley R. Herschbach and George M. Whitesides, computer scientists Michael O. Rabin and Leslie Valiant, Shakespeare scholar Stephen Greenblatt, writer Louis Menand, critic Helen Vendler, historians Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and Niall Ferguson, economists Amartya Sen, N. Gregory Mankiw, Robert Barro, Stephen A. Marglin, Don M. Wilson III and Martin Feldstein, political philosophers Harvey Mansfield, Baroness Shirley Williams and Michael Sandel, Fields Medalist mathematician Shing-Tung Yau, political scientists Robert Putnam, Joseph Nye, and Stanley Hoffmann, scholar/composers Robert Levin and Bernard Rands, astrophysicist Alyssa A. Goodman, and legal scholar Alan Dershowitz.

Past faculty members include Michael Walzer, Stephan Thernstrom and Robert Nozick.

And this is just current faculty.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: jude2 on October 09, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
I said some say, not me. I think we have retards in all groups.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
I said some say, not me. I think we have retards in all groups.

True, but I got the impression you were indirectly implicating yourself. But I apologize for assuming.

I am not saying liberal schools are perfect. Trust me, I am not.

However, at the end of the day, the amount of scholars they produce is astounding. Its pretty much the backbone of society.

Last I checked, conservative, christian-based schools weren't producing that many notable scholars.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 09, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
If you do not enjoy being corrected then maybe Getbig is not for you.

Bite your tongue when addressing Hulkotron or there will be things, phaggot.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Ron Harrigan on October 09, 2014, 09:44:23 PM
Bite your tongue when addressing Hulkotron or there will be things, phaggot.


Sulkoqueen is more like it.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 10:08:55 PM
Just watched the video
They are are all correct in their thinking.

morons?

Not at all.

Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 10:52:47 PM
Just watched the video
They are are all correct in their thinking.

morons?

Not at all.


::)
Yes, blame the United States for a terrorist groups literal interpretation of the Koran.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 11:00:35 PM
::)
Yes, blame the United States for a terrorist groups literal interpretation of the Koran.
Nice strawman argument.

What has it got to do with the question the students were asked?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: polychronopolous on October 09, 2014, 11:00:44 PM
First World, 1% problems.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: HonestBob on October 09, 2014, 11:08:35 PM
Just watched the video
They are are all correct in their thinking.

morons?

Not at all.



A tiny band of evil lunatics isolated to one minuscule portion of the world or THE world superpower that has never really "got" foreign policy and diplomacy.  
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 11:10:39 PM
A tiny band of evil lunatics isolated to one minuscule portion of the world or THE world superpower that has never really "got" foreign policy and diplomacy.  

Yep, I think thats what the students based their decision on, not the USA propaganda machine.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 11:10:42 PM
A tiny band of evil lunatics isolated to one minuscule portion of the world or THE world superpower that has never really "got" foreign policy and diplomacy.  
Yes, lets defend the motherlode of bad ideas.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 11:26:14 PM
Yes, lets defend the motherlode of bad ideas.
another strawman argument   ::)

Why dont you just stick to the topic at hand?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 11:26:53 PM
another strawman argument   ::)

Why dont you just stick to the topic at hand?
Everyone would live in harmony if the bad US wasn`t around.  Right?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 11:28:02 PM
Everyone would live in harmony if the bad US wasn`t around.  Right?
another strawman argument  ::)
Why dont you stick to the topic at hand?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 11:30:59 PM
another strawman argument  ::)
Why dont you stick to the topic at hand?
Screw this, I am going to go bake some cookies.  Browned butter, Crystallized ginger with Nutmeg Icing to be exact.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 11:33:28 PM
Screw this, I am going to go bake some cookies.  Browned butter, Crystallized ginger with Nutmeg Icing to be exact.
I would delete the thread before you go now you have realised the students were right after all.

You should listen to the question before jumping in with both feet.
Maybe thats why the students think the USA is threat to world peace.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2014, 11:44:54 PM
I would delete the thread before you go now you have realised the students were right after all.

You should listen to the question before jumping in with both feet.
Maybe thats why the students think the USA is threat to world peace.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: HonestBob on October 09, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
I also want to add that IMO western civilisation, of which the USA is clearly now at the forefront, is also the shining light in the world in pretty much every single way when compared to the backward Asian / Muslim / Latin nations.

The irony of how the West is hated and when Ebola / Islamic fundamentals strike we are expected to bail everyone out isn't lost on me.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 11:58:33 PM
I also want to add that IMO western civilisation, of which the USA is clearly now at the forefront, is also the shining light in the world in pretty much every single way when compared to the backward Asian / Muslim / Latin nations.

The irony of how the West is hated and when Ebola / Islamic fundamentals strike we are expected to bail everyone out isn't lost on me.
Rough with the smooth comes to mind.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2014, 12:07:05 AM













As a general Muslim 'hater' I have to say that man
Made some very sensible & rational points,
That like he says are either ignored or glossed over.

He bought up points the MSM & Politicians do not want
Us to be aware of or talk about.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 10, 2014, 12:57:22 AM
Man getbiggers showing their low IQ's in this thread.  Of course USA is a bigger threat.  These kids are smart.  AND I FUCKING HATE ISIS.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 01:29:58 AM











As a general Muslim 'hater' I have to say that man
Made some very sensible & rational points,
That like he says are either ignored or glossed over.

He bought up points the MSM & Politicians do not want
Us to be aware of or talk about.

Problem is, that its not very valid what he is saying when put in context.  Sam Harris responds.

Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 10, 2014, 01:31:29 AM
Any Islam defender is ignorant or a liar.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:47:05 AM
Any Islam defender is ignorant or a liar.
Dont you mean ISIS defender?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 10, 2014, 01:50:29 AM
Dont you mean ISIS defender?

Islam is the womb from which ISIS spewed.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:51:57 AM
Islam is the womb from which ISIS spewed.
Some women give birth to murderers, doesnt mean all her kids are evil does it?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 10, 2014, 01:55:06 AM
Some women give birth to murderers, doesnt mean all her kids are evil does it?

(http://carleeannmyers.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/spud-muffin-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 02:01:03 AM
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: heenok on October 10, 2014, 02:02:45 AM
american education is a JOKE
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: nattybay on October 10, 2014, 02:03:16 AM


Those kids right there gave you the fucking right reasons. USA is the biggest stake-holder when it comes to disturbing world peace.
Kids got the bigger picture right here.

PS ISIS does suck.

Dumb getbiggers...lol
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 10, 2014, 05:33:50 AM
american education is a JOKE

Haha

Yes we only have the best universities in the world.

Do yours even have indoor plumbing?  Or maybe an American fucked your goat/wife.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 05:35:44 AM
(http://carleeannmyers.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/spud-muffin-2.jpg)
are you goading me sir?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Grape Ape on October 10, 2014, 05:45:59 AM
The question is flawed.  Of course the largest superpower in the world would have the easiest potential to cause the most damage.

The question should have been "do you sympathize with anything ISIS is doing" or something along those lines.  That would have let us know where the kids stand.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
The question is flawed.  Of course the largest superpower in the world would have the easiest potential to cause the most damage.

The question should have been "do you sympathize with anything ISIS is doing" or something along those lines.  That would have let us know where the kids stand.
The question is fine, it is the OP who is flawed in not realising that there isn't really a story here worthy of discussion.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 07:48:21 AM
The question is fine, it is the OP who is flawed in not realising that there isn't really a story here worthy of discussion.

What if the U.S. decided to never get involved with anything outside of its own borders.

Would that change your answer?

If so, then it means no foreign aid and no coming to ask for help when shit hits the fan.

If the U.S. is as you are saying, then we would have to remove completely.

Another question I would ask then, who is a greater potential to increase world security. Isis or the US?

The U.S. will bail your ass out when someone comes bearing down on you. Will ISIS?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: dr.chimps on October 10, 2014, 07:52:34 AM
What if the U.S. decided to never get involved with anything outside of its own borders.

Would that change your answer?

If so, then it means no foreign aid and no coming to ask for help when shit hits the fan.

If the U.S. is as you are saying, then we would have to remove completely.

Another question I would ask then, who is a greater potential to increase world security. Isis or the US?

The U.S. will bail your ass out when someone comes bearing down on you. Will ISIS?
No, it won't. No, it won't.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 10, 2014, 07:53:14 AM


The U.S. will bail your ass out when someone comes bearing down on you. Will ISIS?

Oh RLY?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 08:00:55 AM
Oh RLY?

Yes.

from fighting wars when needed to sending money to disaster areas.

Is the U.S. perfect? No. Of course not.

But around the world people ask for our help. Tsunamis. Earth quakes. All over.

Do I think we should be out fighting wars for oil? Of course not. Thats not what this is about though.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: HonestBob on October 10, 2014, 10:03:58 AM
Yes.

from fighting wars when needed to sending money to disaster areas.

Is the U.S. perfect? No. Of course not.

But around the world people ask for our help. Tsunamis. Earth quakes. All over.

Do I think we should be out fighting wars for oil? Of course not. Thats not what this is about though.


The US only does what is in it's own best interests.  And rightly so.

World peace and stable economies to buy her products is largely the best course of action.

I don't see many people criticising the US in this thread, just being realistic.  I was quite impressed with the students reasoning as well.  You could see the cogs whirring as they answered the question thoughtfully and not with knee jerk reaction the OP was looking for.

I think America is the greatest nation in the modern world (by far) and I still think it sucks at foreign policy. Probably because of it's scale and relative isolation.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
What if the U.S. decided to never get involved with anything outside of its own borders.

Would that change your answer?

If so, then it means no foreign aid and no coming to ask for help when shit hits the fan.

If the U.S. is as you are saying, then we would have to remove completely.

Another question I would ask then, who is a greater potential to increase world security. Isis or the US?

The U.S. will bail your ass out when someone comes bearing down on you. Will ISIS?
You could argue that ISIS only exists in its current state BECAUSE of the USA.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 01:04:28 PM
You could argue that ISIS only exists in its current state BECAUSE of the USA.

Valid argument.

I would not exactly disagree either. I said it when it happened that we should leave Iraq alone and that Saddam was fine the way he was.

Would also add that I don't think ousting Khadafi was a win either.

Yes, the US fucks up a lot... no argument there. I'm just saying that I don't believe ISIS would be helping out their neighbors.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: pissant on October 10, 2014, 01:14:45 PM
This. Some people sleep better at night by thinking others are not as smart as them.  ::)

Or some people don't give a ratass about certain topics.  Have a sibling who is an electrical engineer who couldn't eeven tell you who the president and vp are.

Sad but true
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Archer77 on October 10, 2014, 01:18:10 PM
You could argue that ISIS only exists in its current state BECAUSE of the USA.

You may be lead to believe that if you look at Islam within the context of the last fifty years.  The type of behavior exhibited by ISIS is present in Islam from the very start.  Remember Islam was rampaging for centuries before they United States got involved.  Many of the countries that are Islamic now were once strong holds of Christianity until Islam took them by force.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 01:20:36 PM
You may be lead to believe that if you look at Islam within the context of the last fifty years.  The type of behavior exhibited by ISIS is present in Islam from the very start.  Remember Islam was rampaging for centuries before they United States got involved.  Many of the countries that are Islamic now were once strong holds of Christianity until Islam took them by force.

To your point, specifically when the Roman Empire had those areas, the 2nd century with the real consolidation of Christianity.

Now, this is not a religious thing, far from it for me.

Historically speaking, that area has been many different religions over the course of human civilization.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:21:09 PM
Valid argument.

I would not exactly disagree either. I said it when it happened that we should leave Iraq alone and that Saddam was fine the way he was.

Would also add that I don't think ousting Khadafi was a win either.

Yes, the US fucks up a lot... no argument there. I'm just saying that I don't believe ISIS would be helping out their neighbors.
The USA always picks its targets, they seem to avoid upsetting Mr Putin and North Korea.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 10, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
You may be lead to believe that if you look at Islam within the context of the last fifty years.  The type of behavior exhibited by ISIS is present in Islam from the very start.  Remember Islam was rampaging for centuries before they United States got involved.  Many of the countries that are Islamic now were once strong holds of Christianity until Islam took them by force.

Some historians view the Crusades (dating to 11th century AD) as defensive actions against Islamic conquest.

I am not sure how credible these views are though.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Archer77 on October 10, 2014, 01:27:56 PM
Some historians view the Crusades (dating to 11th century AD) as defensive actions against Islamic conquest.

I am not sure how credible these views are though.

There is evidence for this.   Christian crusaders were being accosted on pilgrimages to the holy land by Muslims.   
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
Some historians view the Crusades (dating to 11th century AD) as defensive actions against Islamic conquest.

I am not sure how credible these views are though.
How the fuck would they know what was going on on the other side of the world in the 11th century?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 01:30:49 PM
The USA always picks its targets, they seem to avoid upsetting Mr Putin and North Korea.

Agreed.

They also tread carefully around China.

I get that the economy is a global economy now more than ever, but I don't understand cowering to certain governments.

In the 80s, we would have never even remotely thought about doing business with a communist entity like China, but yet here we are 30 years later walking side by side with them.

I am very torn on the subject.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Agreed.

They also tread carefully around China.

I get that the economy is a global economy now more than ever, but I don't understand cowering to certain governments.

In the 80s, we would have never even remotely thought about doing business with a communist entity like China, but yet here we are 30 years later walking side by side with them.

I am very torn on the subject.
Don't be, I couldn't give a flying fuck what politicians and governments get up to.
It has no real bearing on my life.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Don't be, I couldn't give a flying fuck what politicians and governments get up to.
It has no real bearing on my life.

I just feel like it affects us all as people. If the US or Russia or some other large country fucks up, it really does impact a lot of people.

Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 10, 2014, 01:39:41 PM
How the fuck would they know what was going on on the other side of the world in the 11th century?

I suspect they do research on the topic using whatever the established approaches in the field are (I'm not a historian).

I also suspect there are historians in all places of the world so I am not sure what you mean by "on the other side of the world".
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2014, 01:50:14 PM
I suspect they do research on the topic using whatever the established approaches in the field are (I'm not a historian).

I also suspect there are historians in all places of the world so I am not sure what you mean by "on the other side of the world".
I mean how would Christian Crusaders know what was going on at the other side of the world unless they went their first sticking their fucking noses in and forcing religion on its people?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Hulkotron on October 10, 2014, 01:53:40 PM
I mean how would Christian Crusaders know what was going on at the other side of the world unless they went their first sticking their fucking noses in and forcing religion on its people?

There are good Wikipedia articles on the topic if you're actually interested in it but I suspect you're just being argumentative.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Archer77 on October 10, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
I mean how would Christian Crusaders know what was going on at the other side of the world unless they went their first sticking their fucking noses in and forcing religion on its people?

Christianity started in that region and well established christian communities existed there. 
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: _bruce_ on October 10, 2014, 02:11:40 PM
Education = sprinkled with sabotage.
As for the threat ISIS vs America - the US has been a bigger threat because of the way it's been used as a global wrecking ball and instigator... of course it would be interesting to know who these people behind the machine are?
Other nations suck even more but they could have been neutralized more elegantly or left alone.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Tapeworm on October 10, 2014, 04:32:25 PM
It's a sad fact that not everyone is as good as we are.  Just the other day I saw two people having a disagreement.  I'm not totally sure what it was about but it seemed serious.  I said please stand down, sir.  It's ok, I'm an American.  I'm here to help.  They became agitated and may have presented a potential threat so I was forced to shoot them which resolved the conflict.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
You could argue that ISIS only exists in its current state BECAUSE of the USA.
No you can`t.  As Hitchens said, they were already there before any US intervention.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Archer77 on October 10, 2014, 06:53:02 PM
It's a sad fact that not everyone is as good as we are.  Just the other day I saw two people having a disagreement.  I'm not totally sure what it was about but it seemed serious.  I said please stand down, sir.  It's ok, I'm an American.  I'm here to help.  They became agitated and may have presented a potential threat so I was forced to shoot them which resolved the conflict.

 ::)
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Tapeworm on October 10, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
::)

Stand down, sir!
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 06:55:49 PM
No you can`t.  As Hitchens said, they were already there before any US intervention.

Certainly the in-fighting between the larger tribes was there, but to become organized and start this amount of, dare I say, "terror" was not present before we ousted Saddam right?

At least not in the premise of encroaching on other areas and countries?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 07:41:09 PM
Certainly the in-fighting between the larger tribes was there, but to become organized and start this amount of, dare I say, "terror" was not present before we ousted Saddam right?

At least not in the premise of encroaching on other areas and countries?
The whole video is good, but at about 4:30 on, Hitchens deals with the idea that the US is to blame for escalation (which its not) and the fact that Saddam was actively harboring the terrorists, particularly many that are now ISIS commanders and leaders.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 07:46:27 PM
Hitchens and Netanyahu were pretty much the only ones talking about the formation of the Islamic State, a caliphate, years ago.

Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: THE ARS on October 10, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
True adonis, any, and I mean any, Harvard grad makes $100,000 at 21 years old.

How are you doing?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 08:18:48 PM
True adonis, any, and I mean any, Harvard grad makes $100,000 at 21 years old.

How are you doing?
ISIS kidnappers make 30 million plus to hundreds of millions a year.

How are you doing?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 08:20:33 PM
True adonis, any, and I mean any, Harvard grad makes $100,000 at 21 years old.

How are you doing?
Also, please respond to my Indian thread.  You posted a link, but failed to post all the information in the link which proved you were completely wrong.  Either you did not read it, or you were willfully trying to conceal the fact you were wrong, or you are just plain stupid.  Has to be one of those three.  Which one was it?
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: tu_holmes on October 10, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
The whole video is good, but at about 4:30 on, Hitchens deals with the idea that the US is to blame for escalation (which its not) and the fact that Saddam was actively harboring the terrorists, particularly many that are now ISIS commanders and leaders.


Hmm... He makes valid points.

I feel like a "flip flopper", but when people make sense, they do make sense.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 10, 2014, 09:06:34 PM
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: Immortal_Technique on October 11, 2014, 12:24:05 AM
Also, please respond to my Indian thread.  You posted a link, but failed to post all the information in the link which proved you were completely wrong.  Either you did not read it, or you were willfully trying to conceal the fact you were wrong, or you are just plain stupid.  Has to be one of those three.  Which one was it?

The indian thread seems to have disappeared currently, but some of it relates to this thread. Prior to the 2003 invasion many predicted iraq would be reduced to gang warfare once the US pulls out. This is what has happened. Isis grows with every air strike. This appears to be fact. Great for US arms trading in the Middle East though so you still win don't worry.
Title: Re: Harvard Fail- School of Morons
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 11, 2014, 01:56:51 AM
How the fuck would they know what was going on on the other side of the world in the 11th century?

Lots of documents from the era, for those educated enough to seek out and study.