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and if so, what brand is cheap without being crap ???
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Hell yes its one of the most important supplements a bodybuilder can take, Now fish oil is one of the cheaper brands.
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Hell yes its one of the most important supplements a bodybuilder can take, Now fish oil is one of the cheaper brands.
i see massive differences in pricing between different brands
it makes me scratch my head
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i see massive differences in pricing between different brands
it makes me scratch my head
The funny thing is the brands that have being around for 40 plus years are usually the cheaper ones and the new supplement companies are expensive, I guess they have not made enough money as yet.
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The funny thing is the brands that have being around for 40 plus years are usually the cheaper ones and the new supplement companies are expensive, I guess they have not made enough money as yet.
universal for instance is expensive as fuck
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universal for instance is expensive as fuck
he is just Googling some brands to make it look like he knows what hes talking about, he will be back soon.
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not if you eat fish
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and if so, what brand is cheap without being crap ???
What's wrong ( ???) with eating fresh Belgian (aka "cuban") fish.
:)
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Yeah I really think u need fishoil...absolutely...l isten to the trainer, trainers know...so much...all the times...bcz, they are trainers! Its like Yoda u know! Trainers = Yoda! Gurus! Coaches! FUcking love em all! I actually think the world would stop spinning if we didenthave these oracels telling us what to do! Bcz they KNOW, they KNOW, the thing is...where does their knowledge come from! Where? Im mean this is fucking intresting...how they can be so enlighted knowing much more than u and me and all the other people around this planets. Selfeducated self appointed titles...They say fishoil, u eat fishoil! Fucking love it!
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Yeah I really think u need fishoil...absolutely...l isten to the trainer, trainers know...so much...all the times...bcz, they are trainers! Its like Yoda u know! Trainers = Yoda! Gurus! Coaches! FUcking love em all! I actually think the world would stop spinning if we didenthave these oracels telling us what to do! Bcz they KNOW, they KNOW, the thing is...where does their knowledge come from! Where? Im mean this is fucking intresting...how they can be so enlighted knowing much more than u and me and all the other people around this planets. Selfeducated self appointed titles...They say fishoil, u eat fishoil! Fucking love it!
People are busy going about their lives they dont have time to be researching diet, training and nutrition, even the top pro bodybuilders in the world use trainers and gurus.
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and if so, what brand is cheap without being crap ???
You might want to give this miracle seed oil a try.
http://store.activationproducts.com/panaseeda?AFFID=113091 (http://store.activationproducts.com/panaseeda?AFFID=113091)
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If you can eat fish, its much cheaper to eat canned wild salmon/mackerel/sardines every day or two - you kill two birds with one stone then because it is a protein source too and the actual fish has more nutrition in terms of minerals and nutrients, saturated and mono-unsaturated fats etc not obtained through a fish oil supplement alone
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and if so, what brand is cheap without being crap ???
Yes they are.
See bodybuilding.com and/or vitaminshoppe.com and compare prices.
Oh, and stop being such a lazy sack of shit cluttering up the board with such useless threads. ::)
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I recommend liquid. Carlson's is my fav. You're wasting your time with cheap shitty Costco/Walmart caps with low EPA/DHA amounts. Caps in general are a bad idea (even the high concentration ones).
If you arent getting 1-2g of total DHA per day you're wasting your time and wont see the "magical" effects marketed about fish oil. You really need to take a LOT of fish to get great results. People popping 1g of shitty caps a day are not getting much.
For a 200lb+ male serious about body composition and lipid profile (because your lipids are shit from being on gear) I'd take 5g/day of a quality liquid fish oil. Many people out there recommend even more. Most of you are not taking NEAR enough for the touted magical benefits. Let just summarize that further by stating most of you are complete retards with your diet and supplementation anyway (you dumb fucking meatheads).
http://www.crossfitinvictus.com/nutrition/how-much-fish-oil-should-you-take/
http://robbwolf.com/2011/10/05/fish-oil/ - In his book, The Paleo Solution, Robb Wolf makes different dosage recommendations based on level of athleticism. He recommends 1g of EPA/DHA per 10 lbs of body weight for sick, overweight, and highly inflamed individuals. For lean, muscular athletes with blood chemistry closer to ancestral norms, he recommends .25-.5 g of EPA/DHA per 10 lbs of body weight.
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I eat real food man, only.
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+ Creatine
+ needle
+ pussy juice
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get urself some krill oil
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+ Creatine
+ needle
+ pussy juice
X2 the most anabolic effect is have a hot bitch sitting on your face.
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I recommend liquid. Carlson's is my fav. You're wasting your time with cheap shitty Costco/Walmart caps with low EPA/DHA amounts. Caps in general are a bad idea (even the high concentration ones).
If you arent getting 1-2g of total DHA per day you're wasting your time and wont see the "magical" effects marketed about fish oil. You really need to take a LOT of fish to get great results. People popping 1g of shitty caps a day are not getting much.
For a 200lb+ male serious about body composition and lipid profile (because your lipids are shit from being on gear) I'd take 5g/day of a quality liquid fish oil. Many people out there recommend even more. Most of you are not taking NEAR enough for the touted magical benefits. Let just summarize that further by stating most of you are complete retards with your diet and supplementation anyway (you dumb fucking meatheads).
http://www.crossfitinvictus.com/nutrition/how-much-fish-oil-should-you-take/
http://robbwolf.com/2011/10/05/fish-oil/ - In his book, The Paleo Solution, Robb Wolf makes different dosage recommendations based on level of athleticism. He recommends 1g of EPA/DHA per 10 lbs of body weight for sick, overweight, and highly inflamed individuals. For lean, muscular athletes with blood chemistry closer to ancestral norms, he recommends .25-.5 g of EPA/DHA per 10 lbs of body weight.
1/2g.. ::)..bullshit, every getbigger knows 6g is the sweet spot
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1/2g.. ::)..bullshit, every getbigger knows 6g is the sweet spot
Are you retarded you cannot hit the sweet spot until you reach 6.59 grams >:(
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just use e.g.
- flax seed oil
- extra virgin olive oil
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just use e.g.
- flax seed oil
- extra virgin olive oil
i put 70grams of olive oil on my meals one day
and i ended up with violent diarhea for the next 2 weeks from just that once
fuck that shit
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https://www.nutrimuscle.com/produits/OM-Omega-3/
i take 6 of this a day
worth it imo
only brand i know that has quality/organic products
cheap omega 3 are poluted with heavy metals and all kindz of crap
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and if so, what brand is cheap without being crap ???
several universities around the world have done controlled, double blind studies on fish oil and all came up with the same result.
there is ZERO effect... unless you are a lactating mother...and in that case their is a minor benefit.
if you take it, and believe in it, you are experiencing placebo and have been scammed..
look it up.
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(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2010/coleman_bratislava_2010/ronnie-coleman-bratislava-18.jpg)
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-Prefer Flaxseed oil. -Same benefit, better smell and taste.
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i put 70grams of olive oil on my meals one day
and i ended up with violent diarhea for the next 2 weeks from just that once
fuck that shit
Are you crazy why are you overdosing on olive oil no wonder you got the shits, all you need is a tablespoon of olive oil with your meals.
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i put 70grams of olive oil on my meals one day
and i ended up with violent diarhea for the next 2 weeks from just that once
fuck that shit
Eat olives ::)
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I used to believe in the hype but then I read that it's enough to eat fatty fish once, twice a week for the benefits. It's all marketing hype that u need like 30% omega fatty acid in your diet.
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Eat olives ::)
I would like to extend to you an olive branch I hope you turn over a new leaf.
(http://esanspa.com/blog2/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/olive-tree-branch.jpg)
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i put 70grams of olive oil on my meals one day
and i ended up with violent diarhea for the next 2 weeks from just that once
fuck that shit
way too much for one meal. Take 3 - 4 tablespoons evenly divided over a full day,.
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I would like to extend to you an olive branch I hope you turn over a new leaf.
(http://esanspa.com/blog2/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/olive-tree-branch.jpg)
Yeah, black or green olives :)
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I used to believe in the hype but then I read that it's enough to eat fatty fish once, twice a week for the benefits. It's all marketing hype that u need like 30% omega fatty acid in your diet.
Dude you are so wrong its not hype the imbalance between omega 6 and 3 is very high in humans cause our diet is low in omega 3 and high in omega 6, this causes inflamation in the body opening you up to future heart problems and and other illness in the body, ignorance is a dangerous weapon.
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Absolute rip-off when you consider the cost of canned mackerel and sardines. I get sardines for 70 cents to one buck a can, and that's real food. Besides, you can eat fresh salmon or sardines three times a week and take some flaxseed oil and be set for the week with omega-3 fatty acids. Throw in other fats that one might eat, such as nuts and seeds, especially walnuts, and you're fine for omega-3's.
Except if you ask Charles Loliquin.
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this is a good fat source if you have money to blow:
http://www.udoschoice.co.uk/products/udos-choice-ultimate-oil-blend
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http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/universal-nutrition-omega-efa/4514
http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/labrada-efa-lean-gold/3367
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Dude you are so wrong its not hype the imbalance between omega 6 and 3 is very high in humans cause our diet is low in omega 3 and high in omega 6, this causes inflamation in the body opening you up to future heart problems and and other illness in the body, ignorance is a dangerous weapon.
All from fish oil company supported reviews. ::) I read all about it. Monosaturated fats are more important. And all these with heart problems without omega 3's were obese anyway. Eating healthy balanced is enough rather buying in to supps. Food supplement industry is far worse hyping their supps, than bodybuilding supps.
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Absolute rip-off when you consider the cost of canned mackerel and sardines. I get sardines for 70 cents to one buck a can, and that's real food. Besides, you can eat fresh salmon or sardines three times a week and take some flaxseed oil and be set for the week with omega-3 fatty acids. Throw in other fats that one might eat, such as nuts and seeds, especially walnuts, and you're fine for omega-3's.
Except if you ask Charles Loliquin.
And wash all that fish down with a glass of mercury. :D
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I am shocked you did not give a free pass to the trainer.
Maybe when you actually post a real picture, pipsqueak.
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If you can eat fish, its much cheaper to eat canned wild salmon/mackerel/sardines every day or two - you kill two birds with one stone then because it is a protein source too and the actual fish has more nutrition in terms of minerals and nutrients, saturated and mono-unsaturated fats etc not obtained through a fish oil supplement alone
Good advice!
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-Prefer Flaxseed oil. -Same benefit, better smell and taste.
not the same, beter absorption with fish oil than flaxseed oil, the ALA in flaxseed oil still needs to be converted to EPA in DHA, in fish oil EPA and DHA are already available from the start
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not the same, beter absorption with fish oil than flaxseed oil, the ALA in flaxseed oil still needs to be converted to EPA in DHA, in fish oil EPA and DHA are already available from the start
Okay. Well then I will still take my chances with Flaxseed oil since it doesn't have that stinky fishy taste like the Salmon oil I was taking. Anyway, I eat a fair amount of oily fish and use olive oil to cook with. That should do the trick.
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Fish oil will give you mad gainz, brah!
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Okay. Well then I will still take my chances with Flaxseed oil since it doesn't have that stinky fishy taste like the Salmon oil I was taking. Anyway, I eat a fair amount of oily fish and use olive oil to cook with. That should do the trick.
i actually like the taste,like raw pussy, u should try some krill oil caps and chew them, the oil inside really tastes good but most people just swallow the caps
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fish oil works
proof : http://www.ergo-log.com/fishoil.html
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several universities around the world have done controlled, double blind studies on fish oil and all came up with the same result.
there is ZERO effect... unless you are a lactating mother...and in that case their is a minor benefit.
if you take it, and believe in it, you are experiencing placebo and have been scammed..
look it up.
great
save coiins
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Liquid fishoils are much cheaper and get used to taste very quick or dont notice if blend in shake, my heart feels better when i take fishoils, it beats smoother
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just use e.g.
- flax seed oil
- extra virgin olive oil
Doesn't contain any EPA/DHA
not if you eat fish
Not many fishes contain sufficient amounts of EPA/DHA.
this is a good fat source if you have money to blow:
http://www.udoschoice.co.uk/products/udos-choice-ultimate-oil-blend
See below
-Prefer Flaxseed oil. -Same benefit, better smell and taste.
Not true
Basically ~ Yes
We want Omega 3's. We all know that. But, omega's differ ~ long chain vs short chain, ~ without getting into a big scientific disertation, the bottom line is: We want EPA & DHA . EPA & DHA come DIRECTLY from fish and fish oil. Flax oil is ALA (Alpha-linolenic Acid)(not to be confused with Alpha-Lipoic Acid). The reason we're always hearing about getting ALA from flax and other sources is because the body CONVERTS it into what it needs (EPA & DHA), BUT the process is very inefficeint and the conversion rate is only 5-10%. So it's best to get it from the source ~ FISH!
Now, there are a whole host of other benefits from flax - from the seeds - Ground (not whole), but that would be a whole other thread.
This a favorite question of mine. I have spent a lot of time researching. Despite all that has been written and said, I believe that fish oil gives the most bang for the buck. Essential fatty acid's fall into the group known as long chain omega 3's. These long chain omega 3 fats are EPA and DHA. Fish oil contains these two acids-in that specific form. EPA and DHA are the only form of essential long chain omega 3 acids that the body can use.
Flax, borage, etc, do not contain EPA and DHA. Instead they contain both omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids. Our normal diet already gives us an over abundance of omega 6 fats versus omega 3 fats.
The problem with flax is that it contains short chain omega 3 as well as omega 6 fatty acids. Since the body can only utilize long chain omega 3's in the form of EPA and DHA, multiple conversions have to be undertaken by the bodies metabolic pathways to convert this short chain 3 into a usable form of long chain omega 6. The conversion is not very efficient, our bodies convert only a very small fraction of short chain omega 3 into long chain omega 6.
Once ingested, the body converts ALA to EPA and DHA.
You're not taking it because it tastes good, so forget about that. ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123126.msg1762060#msg1762060
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82903.25
Erasmus touts all the great benefits of fish oils containing high amounts of EPA & DHA, yet his product (Udo's), doesn't contain them.
Okay. Well then I will still take my chances with Flaxseed oil since it doesn't have that stinky fishy taste like the Salmon oil I was taking. Anyway, I eat a fair amount of oily fish and use olive oil to cook with. That should do the trick.
Olive oil loses it's heart healthy benefits once heated.
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Doesn't contain any EPA/DHA
Not many fishes contain sufficient amounts of EPA/DHA.
See below
Not true
Olive oil loses it's heart healthy benefits once heated.
Dam it looks like princess L knows her shit.
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i actually like the taste,like raw pussy, u should try some krill oil caps and chew them, the oil inside really tastes good but most people just swallow the caps
It may taste like raw pussy, but fish oil is a poor substitute for sex.
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It may taste like raw pussy, but fish oil is a poor substitute for sex.
Bro....just so you know, you're actually doing more harm by cooking with olive oil. It's great raw on salads and what not but it's low smoke point means you're turning that expensive oil rancid. Switch to coconut or Mac nut oil.
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Bro....just so you know, you're actually doing more harm by cooking with olive oil. It's great raw on salads and what not but it's low smoke point means you're turning that expensive oil rancid. Switch to coconut or Mac nut oil.
-Wow & wow
-Acid rain, where do U live :D
-Visit Mediterranean region 1st, then bla-bla-bla about cooking
-Olive oil is cheap, Macadamian oil is much more expensive , inform yourself amigo :)
-Also visit West Australian Omega 3 algae producing farms, 28 tonnes of Omega 3 is exported every months
-Australian produced Omega 3 is mixed in yours land with other cheap oil ;D ;D ;D = "fish oil"
-Coconut oil, really ;D ;D ;D nothing else than cheap Palm oil sold to U as Coco 1 ;D
+ Why to use Macadamian oil, when is eating a few nuts far better, ;D
+ Why to buy fake "fish oil" ( ???), fresh fish taste so good :D
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Bro....just so you know, you're actually doing more harm by cooking with olive oil. It's great raw on salads and what not but it's low smoke point means you're turning that expensive oil rancid. Switch to coconut or Mac nut oil.
That's not entirely true. Light frying/sauteing is ok with plain 'ol regular olive oil which has a higher smoke point than extra virgin. BUT, it does lose it's "heart healthy" benefits. Extra virgin should be used straight for things like salad dressing for the health benefit and taste. It's actually a waste to use more expensive olive oil for frying, but you're not likely to get it hot enough for it to "go bad".
Also note that a lot of olive oils are being cut with cheaper oil so look for a certification stamp like PDO, PGI, COOC, IOOC.
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Bro....just so you know, you're actually doing more harm by cooking with olive oil. It's great raw on salads and what not but it's low smoke point means you're turning that expensive oil rancid. Switch to coconut or Mac nut oil.
I use it to make salad dressing as well. Simply don't use high heat. Even if you do, it doesn't make it rancid, it burns it if you overheat it. Clearly it is not a good choice for deep frying. Peanut oil or, like you mentioned, pure coconut oil which is specified for high heat is great for cooking. I've not seen macadamia nut oil in the market. Perhaps at a specialty market you can find it.
Another use for pure coconut oil is as a skin lotion. It will actually heal scars.
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BUT, it does lose it's "heart healthy" benefits. [/color]
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That's the whole point of the discussion
Also "using more expensive oils is a waste..." ??? Not a waste if you're ensuring your oils don't go rancid while you fry shit. That's the reason you use something cheap like coconut oil.
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-Wow & wow
-Acid rain, where do U live :D
-Visit Mediterranean region 1st, then bla-bla-bla about cooking
-Olive oil is cheap, Macadamian oil is much more expensive , inform yourself amigo :)
-Also visit West Australian Omega 3 algae producing farms, 28 tonnes of Omega 3 is exported every months
-Australian produced Omega 3 is mixed in yours land with other cheap oil ;D ;D ;D = "fish oil"
-Coconut oil, really ;D ;D ;D nothing else than cheap Palm oil sold to U as Coco 1 ;D
+ Why to use Macadamian oil, when is eating a few nuts far better, ;D
+ Why to buy fake "fish oil" ( ???), fresh fish taste so good :D
I literally don't understand a single line of this ethnic jargon
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I literally don't understand a single line of this ethnic jargon
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a bit slow in the noggin ;D
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haha "goes rancid"...
question, have you ever actually used the kitchen?
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a bit slow in the noggin ;D
anabolichalo, next time before u go clubbing, just bury your face in some moist pussy and don't wash the thing off, with them arms and the smell of other female on you u will be irresistible to other chicks
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anabolichalo, next time before u go clubbing, just bury your face in some moist pussy and don't wash the thing off, with them arms and the smell of other female on you u will be irresistible to other chicks
with arms like this you dont need no feromone gimmickry
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The latest studies I have read is that they can find no proof that fish oil decreases the incidents of heart disease. I know it has been repeated a million times on the internet about it's heart healthy benefits but some pretty convincing current evidence exists that it's not true. It might even be bad for you.
http://consumer.healthday.com/vitamins-and-nutrition-information-27/dietary-fat-health-news-301/daily-fish-oil-supplement-may-not-help-your-heart-studies-685879.html
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-201307126467
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20130508/fish-oil-supplements-dont-protect-against-heart-trouble-study
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haha "goes rancid"...
question, have you ever actually used the kitchen?
Talk to me when A) you take doctorate level nutrition and Biochem classes and B) you don't have the physique of a highschool boy
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So wait, if I saute some spinach or kale quickly in olive oil, the benefits of the oil are gone?
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So wait, if I saute some spinach or kale quickly in olive oil, the benefits of the oil are gone?
"Quickly" is the key word here. No matter what, when you introduce cooking level heat to it, it is denaturing your "healthy fats." The hotter and longer you cook it, the greater the damage. Hence why it's better to use a more stable oil like coconut for cooking. Coconut oil is cheap as fuck too.
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"Quickly" is the key word here. No matter what, when you introduce cooking level heat to it, it is denaturing your "healthy fats." The hotter and longer you cook it, the greater the damage. Hence why it's better to use a more stable oil like coconut for cooking. Coconut oil is cheap as fuck too.
But also makes all your veggies taste like coconuts.
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But also makes all your veggies taste like coconuts.
I love coconuts >:(
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But also makes all your veggies taste like coconuts.
PS Mac nut oil is a great but more expensive substitution. Has a nice buttery flavor.
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I love coconuts >:(
No hate for coconuts, but feeding more people than just my own self......garlic sauteed vegetables are common in my house.
But now I'm getting pissed off about the OO. I don't use EV, so maybe I'm aiight.
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It may taste like raw pussy, but fish oil is a poor substitute for sex.
funny how people say that but I've never tasted pussy that tasted or smelled fish.
pretty sure it's mostly guys that never gets any pussy that says it just to sound cool. either that or they're banging some nasty bitches
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PS Mac nut oil is a great but more expensive substitution. Has a nice buttery flavor.
I have just prepared a spinach salad with leftover grilled flank steak, and am currently enjoying all the benefits olive oil has to off nutritionally, as I have poured it on the salad.
Now we must change the subject.
Please give us your educated opinion on the benefits of beet juice, for both health and athletic performance. Please answer promptly and choose your words carefully, as you have now established credibility and there will be action and consequence to those who follow your advice.
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PS Mac nut oil is a great but more expensive substitution. Has a nice buttery flavor.
Good 4 polishing plastic trophies ;D
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Talk to me when A) you take doctorate level nutrition and Biochem classes and B) you don't have the physique of a highschool boy
Seems you are right about olive oil. Who knew?...you knew.
"Most people are aware of the amazing benefits that olive oil provides, but the majority of people are not aware of the adverse properties that the olive oil contains when it is heated. When heated, even at extremely low temperatures all the amazing enzymes and health benefits that the oil contains are destroyed, and in turn the oil itself transforms into a trans fat. This is of the worst types of fats to consume including animal fats. Man made trans fats can increase your ‘bad’ cholesterol and decrease your ‘good’ cholesterol.
Even heating olive oil at a very low temperature causes this oil to transform into this unhealthy, rancid state. Olive oil is better left alone, the way it is, at room temperature. Olive oil is excellent for making salad dressings, using as a dip for bread, and you can even drizzle it over your favorite cooked dishes for that divine, distinctive flavor."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/ (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/)
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I love coconuts >:(
Me too. Macaroons are the bomb. Shredded coconut on cereal is killer. Coconut milk in chicken soup is great.
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Shortly: yes it is. From my experience - a gret substance to keep any type of inflammation in check.
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Seems you are right about olive oil. Who knew?...you knew.
"Most people are aware of the amazing benefits that olive oil provides, but the majority of people are not aware of the adverse properties that the olive oil contains when it is heated. When heated, even at extremely low temperatures all the amazing enzymes and health benefits that the oil contains are destroyed, and in turn the oil itself transforms into a trans fat. This is of the worst types of fats to consume including animal fats. Man made trans fats can increase your ‘bad’ cholesterol and decrease your ‘good’ cholesterol.
Even heating olive oil at a very low temperature causes this oil to transform into this unhealthy, rancid state. Olive oil is better left alone, the way it is, at room temperature. Olive oil is excellent for making salad dressings, using as a dip for bread, and you can even drizzle it over your favorite cooked dishes for that divine, distinctive flavor."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/ (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/)
I would hope that I would know this basic info....I paid way too much fucking money for my education bro LOL. Sure you can still keep using it, but if you were my family member I would want you putting the healthiest stuff possible in your body to keep you alive and well for the rest of your live. We don't think it makes "that much of a difference" but these small choices add up to a cumulative total effect on our health.
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I have just prepared a spinach salad with leftover grilled flank steak, and am currently enjoying all the benefits olive oil has to off nutritionally, as I have poured it on the salad.
Now we must change the subject.
Please give us your educated opinion on the benefits of beet juice, for both health and athletic performance. Please answer promptly and choose your words carefully, as you have now established credibility and there will be action and consequence to those who follow your advice.
A smoothie with beetroot and watermelon is great for the gym, its high in nitrates and l-citrulline
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Seems you are right about olive oil. Who knew?...you knew.
"Most people are aware of the amazing benefits that olive oil provides, but the majority of people are not aware of the adverse properties that the olive oil contains when it is heated. When heated, even at extremely low temperatures all the amazing enzymes and health benefits that the oil contains are destroyed, and in turn the oil itself transforms into a trans fat. This is of the worst types of fats to consume including animal fats. Man made trans fats can increase your ‘bad’ cholesterol and decrease your ‘good’ cholesterol.
Even heating olive oil at a very low temperature causes this oil to transform into this unhealthy, rancid state. Olive oil is better left alone, the way it is, at room temperature. Olive oil is excellent for making salad dressings, using as a dip for bread, and you can even drizzle it over your favorite cooked dishes for that divine, distinctive flavor."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/ (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/)
I think some of those statements are over-kill and not what the majority of what health sciences believe.
"As far as cooking is concerned, when any oil reaches its smoke point (about 410 degrees for olive oil), it will degrade, oxidize (a process that damages the fat molecules), and partially hydrogenate, creating harmful trans fats. But you don't need to get oil that hot to sauté vegetables (300 degrees) or even to fry breaded items (340 degrees). Although those lower temperatures may damage some of the flavonoids, the loss will be trivial. And by starting with a healthy oil, your dish will still be more nutritious. "
"When you heat oils to their smoke point, their chemical composition begins to change as the oils break down. The amounts of antioxidants found in the oils can decrease, removing one of the oil's positive health benefits. High quality extra-virgin olive oil has a high smoke point compared to cheaper olive oils. The Olive Oil Source states that the smoke point of olive oil falls between 365 and 400 degrees F. Olive oil exposed to light and air will have a lower smoke point. Oil that's already been heated one or more times will also smoke at lower temperatures. Olive oil turns to trans fat only when repeatedly reused and heated to very high temperatures."
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A smoothie with beetroot and watermelon is great for the gym, its high in nitrates and l-citrulline
Unfortunately, it's most vile tasting :-X
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Unfortunately, it's most vile tasting :-X
Actually when you mix it with watermelon and little bit of honey it does not taste bad.
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I think some of those statements are over-kill and not what the majority of what health sciences believe.
"As far as cooking is concerned, when any oil reaches its smoke point (about 410 degrees for olive oil), it will degrade, oxidize (a process that damages the fat molecules), and partially hydrogenate, creating harmful trans fats. But you don't need to get oil that hot to sauté vegetables (300 degrees) or even to fry breaded items (340 degrees). Although those lower temperatures may damage some of the flavonoids, the loss will be trivial. And by starting with a healthy oil, your dish will still be more nutritious. "
"When you heat oils to their smoke point, their chemical composition begins to change as the oils break down. The amounts of antioxidants found in the oils can decrease, removing one of the oil's positive health benefits. High quality extra-virgin olive oil has a high smoke point compared to cheaper olive oils. The Olive Oil Source states that the smoke point of olive oil falls between 365 and 400 degrees F. Olive oil exposed to light and air will have a lower smoke point. Oil that's already been heated one or more times will also smoke at lower temperatures. Olive oil turns to trans fat only when repeatedly reused and heated to very high temperatures."
What you are missing is that the breakdown doesn't magically occur at 400 degrees. It begins at much lower temp and increases in speed drastically as it gets hotter. It's just completely fucked at 400 degrees.
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What about some Snake Oil from some good Brand.
Lots more benefits.
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So what fucking oil am I supposed to cook with other than coconut? I've always used a decent quality olive oil spray to lightly coat the pan.
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So what fucking oil am I supposed to cook with other than coconut? I've always used a decent quality olive oil spray to lightly coat the pan.
:D
If I want something comparable I put Mac nut oil in a little spritzer bottle and spray my pan with that.
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If I want something comparable I put Mac nut oil in a little spritzer bottle and spray my pan with that.
Can always count on a fellow body manipulator for a decent answer, cheers Big Cairo.
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So what fucking oil am I supposed to cook with other than coconut? I've always used a decent quality olive oil spray to lightly coat the pan.
I'm going to continue cooking with olive oil. If it is good enough for the French and the Italians, both of who are healthier than most Americans, it is good enough for me. My go to oil for deep frying is peanut oil.
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I'm going to continue cooking with olive oil. If it is good enough for the French and the Italians, both of who are healthier than most Americans, it is good enough for me. My go to oil for deep frying is peanut oil.
Bro....didn't you have prostate cancer??
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Bro....didn't you have prostate cancer??
Yeah, but it's gone now. Both the prostate and the cancer. Had prostate issues long before olive oil became popular if that's the connection you're trying to make. Old men get prostate cancer. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Yeah, but it's gone now. Both the prostate and the cancer. Had prostate issues long before olive oil became popular if that's the connection you're trying to make. Old men get prostate cancer. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Yeah, but I'd still try my best to minimize the toxic load I'm ingesting on a regular basis especially if I already had cancer.
But hey that's just me.
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Yeah, but it's gone now. Both the prostate and the cancer. Had prostate issues long before olive oil became popular if that's the connection you're trying to make. Old men get prostate cancer. It sucks, but it is what it is.
"Its gone now both the prostate and the cancer" LOL:D... But I have a question on fish oil, I've encountered some article that Omega 3 supplement may increase the risk of prostate cancer in men. Been taking my wife Fish Oil supplement (http://visiongroupcorp.com/omega3.html) for a month now as alternative to Advil for joint pains... would it be better to take a plant source Omega 3 supplement or fish oil?
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"Its gone now both the prostate and the cancer" LOL:D... But I have a question on fish oil, I've encountered some article that Omega 3 supplement may increase the risk of prostate cancer in men. Been taking my wife Fish Oil supplement (http://visiongroupcorp.com/omega3.html) for a month now as alternative to Advil for joint pains... would it be better to take a plant source Omega 3 supplement or fish oil?
NO, they don't have the dha and epa levels fish oil does and that's where the positive effects from.
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I'm going to continue cooking with olive oil. If it is good enough for the French and the Italians, both of who are healthier than most Americans, it is good enough for me. My go to oil for deep frying is peanut oil.
Terrible way of thinking here. Coconut oil is king shit here, use it, taste real good too!
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Ritch I'm liking what youre postin, you seem like a real smart Neegar
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several universities around the world have done controlled, double blind studies on fish oil and all came up with the same result.
there is ZERO effect... unless you are a lactating mother...and in that case their is a minor benefit.
if you take it, and believe in it, you are experiencing placebo and have been scammed..
look it up.
yes I read a similar study saying the fish oil supps have failed to show the same benefit of eating oily fish.
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clearly getbig peeps prefer marketing and pseudo science over facts and controlled test.
believe what you want. the science is not debatable, in fact its all in agreeance.
it does nothing!
NOTHING!
buy it, consume it, spend your hard earned cash. be the ignorant consumer. its your choice.
i ask, why is it so cheap?... look at any supplement or drug that really works...they arent cheap.
theres a reason for this.
either way, theyve proven it doesnt do shit.
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clearly getbig peeps prefer marketing and pseudo science over facts and controlled test.
believe what you want. the science is not debatable, in fact its all in agreeance.
it does nothing!
NOTHING!
buy it, consume it, spend your hard earned cash. be the ignorant consumer. its your choice.
i ask, why is it so cheap?... look at any supplement or drug that really works...they arent cheap.
theres a reason for this.
either way, theyve proven it doesnt do shit.
Cod liver oil, bitch.
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Ritch I'm liking what youre postin, you seem like a real smart Neegar
LOL! Thanks man, some good posts from you as well...
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Fish Oil attracts Muscle Bears
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Fish Oil attracts Muscle Bears
You say that like it's something bad? ???
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clearly getbig peeps prefer marketing and pseudo science over facts and controlled test.
believe what you want. the science is not debatable, in fact its all in agreeance.
it does nothing!
NOTHING!
buy it, consume it, spend your hard earned cash. be the ignorant consumer. its your choice.
i ask, why is it so cheap?... look at any supplement or drug that really works...they arent cheap.
theres a reason for this.
either way, theyve proven it doesnt do shit.
Niacin works for improving HDL and its cheap as dirt.
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(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2010/coleman_bratislava_2010/ronnie-coleman-bratislava-18.jpg)
Ego maniac doesn't even notice the woman, just staring at his bicep. Typical bodybuilder.
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Did anyone answer the question?
Don't feel like wading through the shit.
There is a lot going on today with nutrition at the cellular level and Fish Oil supplements, especially Krill, Omega 3's, EPA, DHA and Astaxanthin are right at the top of the list as far as "Necessary" is concerned.
Biomedical Science combined with nutrition delves deep today into Phospholipids.
So, in short, yeah, these supps are actually "worth it"
One other supplement that is getting a lot of attention by the Scientific community is Turmeric (Curcuma) taken with Peppercorn.
Check out Joe Rogan (UFC) and his conversation with Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
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To answer the question... Are they worth it?
Depends how you define "worth it"
It won't add weight to your bench, I don't notice anything from it really and stopped taking it a while back, started back, stopped.
I never noticed better brain function, less soreness either.
I think they have more benefits while dieting as you want the most nutrition from the least calories. It has health properties so for that, I should go back on them as they're sitting in the fridge anyway.
If you're on a budget, pfff, forget the stuff, it's not even close to being necessary for producing any kinds of real life gains.
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To answer the question... Are they worth it?
Depends how you define "worth it"
It won't add weight to your bench, I don't notice anything from it really and stopped taking it a while back, started back, stopped.
I never noticed better brain function, less soreness either.
I think they have more benefits while dieting as you want the most nutrition from the least calories. It has health properties so for that, I should go back on them as they're sitting in the fridge anyway.
If you're on a budget, pfff, forget the stuff, it's not even close to being necessary for producing any kinds of real life gains.
Good point.
My fermented cod liver oil isn't taken to make me more anabolic, it's taken to make me healthier and quell some systemic inflammation. Anyone taking fish oil to "get more gains" is probably not reading this because they're still out rioting for the Michael Brown protests, if you know what I'm saying.
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Don't forget that Eskimo's are one of the groups that has the least amounts of heart related diseases and they eat a boatload of fish.
Might not build huge mussels or get 18 inches of domenicana magnets but it's very good for your general health.
Accumulated Evidence on Fish Consumption and Coronary Heart Disease Mortality (http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/109/22/2705.short)
The study has very solid statistics.
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When buying oil filled gel caps you have to cut one open regardless of the expiration date and make sure the oil has not become rancid
Rancid Oil is worse than not taking any phospho-essentials at all... very, very detrimental to your health
And "worth it" actually can be defined, but being as Fatty acids are the most complex of the macros, I wouldn't even begin here.
Just Google away.
You will find how essential fatty acids work to build muscle and increase hormone production.... duuuuhhh.. mainly, testosterone
Also, as far as the Eskimos are concerned, this is a statement I have also referred to many, many times, but stick to this one instead: If a little is good, more is not better...
Everything in moderation.... EVERYTHING
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Its gone now both the prostate and the cancer" LOL:D... But I have a question on fish oil, I've encountered some article that Omega 3 supplement may increase the risk of prostate cancer in men. Been taking my wife Fish Oil supplement (http://visiongroupcorp.com/omega3.html) for a month now as alternative to Advil for joint pains... would it be better to take a plant source Omega 3 supplement or fish oil?
NO, they don't have the dha and epa levels fish oil does and that's where the positive effects from.
Oh Ok, I was just confused there when one of the salesman from the grocer mentioned about potency and I was confused since the mg content EPA and DHA shows much enough on the ones my wifes been buying... Went to the doc yesterday and he advised that if I don't have family history of Prostate cancer there's no need to worry, but can't be too sure so he just advised 3g max daily.
Thanks Ritch!
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Ego maniac doesn't even notice the woman, just staring at his bicep. Typical bodybuilder.
Halo ripping on his idol Ronald Coleman? ???
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Halo ripping on his idol Ronald Coleman? ???
juicemachine is Halo?
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juicemachine is Halo?
Here's what I don't understand....
How come AnabolicHalo pretends to love bodybuilding so much, but now decides to log into this gimmick account with the same IP address he has used before in order bash bodybuilding?
Halo, why are you using this juicemachine gimmick to now bash bodybuilding?
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Apparently
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so what supplements are actually worth the money?
vitamin D
fish oils
whey protein powder
BCAAS
what about omega 6's like evening primrose oil and borage oil
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"Its gone now both the prostate and the cancer" LOL:D... But I have a question on fish oil, I've encountered some article that Omega 3 supplement may increase the risk of prostate cancer in men. Been taking my wife Fish Oil supplement (http://visiongroupcorp.com/omega3.html) for a month now as alternative to Advil for joint pains... would it be better to take a plant source Omega 3 supplement or fish oil?
I researched this some after someone posted something about there being a possible correlation between prostate cancer and flax-seed oil. I could not find any definitive or conclusive arguments that support this argument. My doctor's and my conclusion is that both flax-seed and fish oil is a heart healthy supplement and not something that causes prostate cancer.
Again, if you read about prostate cancer, you'll discover that it is the most common cancer in men. Many men have it, but they die from other illnesses before they will die from prostate cancer. Considering I was almost 70 years old when it was diagnosed in me and that prostate cancer is often a slow growing cancer, I could have lived out the rest of my life without succumbing to prostate cancer. It just wasn't a risk I wanted to take.
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Apparently
Too much of cheap Polish vodka fuck up his head :)
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I don't know if you could call it a supplement, but adding a few cloves of garlic per day will significantly raise good cholesterol, lower bad cholesterol and significantly lower blood pressure, and reduce the incidence of common colds.
Magnesium is another good supplement, as the average diet is low in magnesium. Magnesium is involved in many functions of the body. It can also significantly lower blood pressure those who have high blood pressure or low in magnesium. It can help with sleep and muscle relaxation.
I began taking magnesium a couple of months ago to lower blood pressure. My blood pressure is better, so it must work.
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When buying oil filled gel caps you have to cut one open regardless of the expiration date and make sure the oil has not become rancid
Rancid Oil is worse than not taking any phospho-essentials at all... very, very detrimental to your health
And "worth it" actually can be defined, but being as Fatty acids are the most complex of the macros, I wouldn't even begin here.
Just Google away.
You will find how essential fatty acids work to build muscle and increase hormone production.... duuuuhhh.. mainly, testosterone
Also, as far as the Eskimos are concerned, this is a statement I have also referred to many, many times, but stick to this one instead: If a little is good, more is not better...
Everything in moderation.... EVERYTHING
Absolutely superb bit of advice that everybody should pay attention to.
I have had elevated cholesterol levels for some time, I am not on gear, and have been trying to get my cholesterol levels down for a long time.
I have tried all sorts of changes to my diet and in the past couple of months with no success so I decided to stop taking any Omega-3 supplements. I have been taking an Omega-3 fish oil/GLA supplement for the past ten years.
Since I stopped taking it my cholesterol levels have started dropping, both LDL and HDL levels.
Not only in my case but another friend of mine who had elevated cholesterol levels to stopped their Omega-3 supplementation and their cholesterol levels dropped and HDL/LDL profile shifted in favour of HDL.
I am pretty sure that in both our cases the oils were rancid, leading to arterial inflammation, damage to the endothelium and elevated cholesterol.
I think fish oil has benefits, but I am not confident in the supplement form, so sticking with eating fish a few times a week for now.