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Title: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: HeartofSteel on February 15, 2006, 04:26:34 PM
Yes.. it's true. Big Victor has a pec tear and from what I understand it could be serious but only Vic himself knows. It happened while performing 400lbs Bench Press and from the looks of that weight, I would say that it could be pretty damn serious. All the best to him and a speedy recovery. He'll be floating around the expo from what I hear, so you'll get to question him then.

HOS
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Bast000 on February 15, 2006, 04:27:39 PM
Hmm, I guess it was just bad luck, huh 240.

Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Snotroot on February 15, 2006, 04:46:59 PM
Must have been overtraining.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: sarcasm on February 15, 2006, 04:56:05 PM
karma's a bitch, ain't it.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 15, 2006, 04:57:50 PM
Thats all? Isn't he used to that kind of weight? Man thats pathetic only 400!  ;D
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 15, 2006, 05:00:31 PM
Thats all? Isn't he used to that kind of weight? Man thats pathetic only 400!  ;D

yeah when Kevin tore his he was doing well over 500

E
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Jr. Yates on February 15, 2006, 05:00:40 PM
damn thats bad. Vic is awesome and has lots of potential.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 15, 2006, 05:05:10 PM
hope its not as bad as Federov's
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: BAZZERKER on February 15, 2006, 05:06:47 PM
dame shitty news, looked good at the olympia was looking forward to see him in the next show
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2006, 05:08:11 PM
yeah when Kevin tore his he was doing well over 500
E

Kevin Levrone tore his pec doing warmup flyes with 60-pound DBs.

This is sad but true.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 15, 2006, 05:10:50 PM
hahaha and he tore his triceps doing lat pulldowns wtf  ???
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 15, 2006, 05:14:45 PM
Kevin Levrone tore his pec doing warmup flyes with 60-pound DBs.
This is sad but true.
That's what he said at first. Then he changed his story and said he was benching 600 or something.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2006, 05:16:18 PM
That's what he said at first. Then he changed his story and said he was benching 600 or something.

Levrone couldn't bench 600 unless he was training on the moon.

Levrone was a part-time trainer who never got as strong as the other guys who trained year-round. 
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 15, 2006, 05:21:20 PM
I'm pretty sure Levrone can bench 575 x 3reps. He benched something like 430 pds naturally. He's got a bench presser's physique! Plus I just saw his video and he did like 5 reps with 5 plates on each side. Never doubt Hollywood!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Mr.Primo on February 15, 2006, 05:23:11 PM
Hes done.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Royalty on February 15, 2006, 05:24:16 PM
Levrone was a part-time trainer who never got as strong as the other guys who trained year-round. 
From 1991-1996 Kevin trained heavy year round.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: GMCtrk on February 15, 2006, 05:24:49 PM
My prediction of Branch mr. o in the future only looks better now
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 15, 2006, 05:30:31 PM
My prediction of Branch mr. o in the future only looks better now

 :-\ The way he trains he is probably gonna brake everysingle bone on his body!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 15, 2006, 05:40:34 PM
Good. hopefully he will go away now and his ball-licking fans will stop droning on about his potential and how he's the next Mr O. I don't know who the bigger cockbag is, him or Dennis James.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: sgt. d on February 15, 2006, 05:40:59 PM
Didn't 240 have a meltdown where he deleted his account and signed up again 15 minutes later?   ???

sure did ::)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Stavios on February 15, 2006, 06:02:59 PM
Damn that is really sad. he is one of my favorite BBer. Hope he recover well  :-\
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: DEFCON on February 15, 2006, 06:09:58 PM
maybe this will give him some time to actually train those non-existent calves he has.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 15, 2006, 06:10:57 PM
Thats all? Isn't he used to that kind of weight? Man thats pathetic only 400!  ;D
You don't have go heavy to tear something!!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 15, 2006, 07:23:01 PM
tell me about it! I almost tore my hamstring giving a spot to a bodybuilder doing benches today!  :-\
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: pumpster on February 15, 2006, 07:54:47 PM
What a waste, Vic always seems so motivated.  ::)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: body88 on February 15, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
well I am sure the people he scamed money out of when his gym closed are deeply sadened by this : (
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on February 15, 2006, 09:01:39 PM

 That is what happens when you take steroids, the muscles gets stronger faster then the joints and the ligaments do so you end up tearing something eventually.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Aerian on February 15, 2006, 09:08:22 PM
That is what happens when you take steroids, the muscles gets stronger faster then the joints and the ligaments do so you end up tearing something eventually.

Think it has more to do with the micro tears that prolonged roid use leaves in the muscles.

Its scary to think that u can tear a muscle so easily at that stage of the game
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Matt on February 15, 2006, 09:29:38 PM
That is what happens when you take steroids, the muscles gets stronger faster then the joints and the ligaments do so you end up tearing something eventually.

This is probably true.  I don't see how difficult it could be to prevent injuries.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 15, 2006, 09:46:56 PM
Kevin Levrone tore his pec doing warmup flyes with 60-pound DBs.
This is sad but true.

are you fucking kidding me where did you hear this?

E
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2006, 09:53:18 PM
are you fucking kidding me where did you hear this?
E

Kev stated this in FLEX.  I think I have the issue around here somewhere. If not, I'm sure someone else does.  The exact quote was something like "Levrone tore his pec doing pre-warmup deep flyes with 60 lb DBs, remarkably light for him". 
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 15, 2006, 09:56:45 PM
Kev stated this in FLEX.  I think I have the issue around here somewhere. If not, I'm sure someone else does.  The exact quote was something like "Levrone tore his pec doing pre-warmup deep flyes with 60 lb DBs, remarkably light for him". 

can you post a snapshot of it or something?

E
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Maxt on February 15, 2006, 10:11:10 PM
I'm pretty sure Levrone can bench 575 x 3reps. He benched something like 430 pds naturally. He's got a bench presser's physique! Plus I just saw his video and he did like 5 reps with 5 plates on each side. Never doubt Hollywood!
At his best close, but not now. Have you seen him recently? He lost a lot of weight, man.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2006, 10:18:14 PM
can you post a snapshot of it or something?
E

I just flipped thru the Nov 93 issue.  They mention it as having just happened (and he guest posed at the NOC shortly after tearing it), so I'm guessing that writeup on the incident is in either the Sept 93 or Dec 93 issue of FLEX, if anyone here has it to scan.   

I remember reading it pretty vividly, as Levrone was my hero and it was the first time I'd ever read about an injury like that.  I'm sure one of our mag collectors, arvilla, bix, someone, has it onhand.

Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: rudylrichards on February 15, 2006, 10:51:19 PM
That's what he said at first. Then he changed his story and said he was benching 600 or something.
I remember him saying that also
I saw Vic about 3hrs ago in the gym,  he looks very huge and pretty tight for two weeks out. If he keeps it up he'll be very hard to beat.  The intensity he was trainig with, I doubt very much he tore his pec.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on February 15, 2006, 10:57:28 PM
That is what happens when you take steroids, the muscles gets stronger faster then the joints and the ligaments do so you end up tearing something eventually.

BINGO!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Karl Kox on February 15, 2006, 11:03:25 PM
to bad for vic.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: TrapsMcLats on February 15, 2006, 11:13:46 PM
My prediction of Branch mr. o in the future only looks better now
As the president of Team Warren, this was the first thing i thought of, but personaly, i think warren could beat a completely healthy vic any day of the week and should have at the O last year.  Warren will be Mr. O.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Bodies on February 15, 2006, 11:28:15 PM
Levrone got his pec repaired really good - It doesn't even show IMO - I wonder how bad Vic's tear is and if he will get a good repair job (probably not) - his pal Valentino will just tell him how to even it out with Synthol.  BTW - warming up on flyes with 60's means you are probably pretty strong!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: INSOMNIA on February 15, 2006, 11:54:24 PM
I remember him saying that also
I saw Vic about 3hrs ago in the gym,  he looks very huge and pretty tight for two weeks out. If he keeps it up he'll be very hard to beat.  The intensity he was trainig with, I doubt very much he tore his pec.
Hi hun!  :-*

I just saw him as well...he didnt mention it. Where do you people get this info?  ::)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: rudylrichards on February 15, 2006, 11:55:29 PM
Yes.. it's true. Big Victor has a pec tear and from what I understand it could be serious but only Vic himself knows. It happened while performing 400lbs Bench Press and from the looks of that weight, I would say that it could be pretty damn serious. All the best to him and a speedy recovery. He'll be floating around the expo from what I hear, so you'll get to question him then.
HOS
How do you know this, just curious. like I said I saw him a few hrs ago training the same way he's been training for the last several months. I spoke to him and he told me he's two weeks away. that would be prety odd for someone who tore his pec.
Why woud he still be training if he tore his pec ???. If he did, it must have been awhile ago because he hasn't missed more than a day in the gym in quite awhile
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: MAXX on February 16, 2006, 02:15:26 AM
man that sucks. Just hope he gets a good sirgury like Levrone and not like the one Federov got.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 2HUGE4U on February 16, 2006, 02:55:56 AM
240 you are right about that. It also featured in the M&F. I think it was sept.'93, pictures of the tear, the whole operation story and even a picture of Kevin and his dokter shaking hands...
It was the first operation that was performed in a manner that there would be minimum visual damage so Kevin was kind of a tru-out back then, although what did he had to loose, his WHOLE pec was torn so it was either that or end of carreer.
Hopefully Victor has found a proactive doktor too, all the luck to him....

Mark
Holland
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Petrucci on February 16, 2006, 04:19:47 AM
Kev stated this in FLEX.  I think I have the issue around here somewhere. If not, I'm sure someone else does.  The exact quote was something like "Levrone tore his pec doing pre-warmup deep flyes with 60 lb DBs, remarkably light for him". 

 Jesus, if this is truth its really shocking!!! I have shitty genetics and im really weak, but even i do flyes with more than 60!!! And it was in his warmup!!!
 So this way for you to tore a muscle you dont need exactly to be moving monter weights... :o
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Double XL on February 16, 2006, 04:38:29 AM
Jesus, if this is truth its really shocking!!! I have shitty genetics and im really weak, but even i do flyes with more than 60!!! And it was in his warmup!!! So this way for you to tore a muscle you dont need exactly to be moving monter weights... :o
im pretty sure kevin said that he heard something in his pec the previous chest workout before the pec tear when he was benching, but ignored it then actually tore it.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 16, 2006, 06:23:07 AM
If levrone was going DEEP on chest DB flyes, I can see 60 pounds tearing a pec. He could have been moving too fast, too deep, allowing a bounce, or like someone said, aggrivating something that was hurt the last chest workout (although wearing a pec tear for a week sounds fishy)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: asani on February 16, 2006, 06:43:53 AM
man, thatīs bad! all the best vic
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 16, 2006, 07:52:15 AM
Ya kevin is a sloppy trainer!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: buffbodz on February 16, 2006, 08:11:33 AM
Thats all? Isn't he used to that kind of weight? Man thats pathetic only 400!  ;D

It's no so much the weight, it's the form he used.  I've seen guys tear pecs warming up with 135.  On the same note, I've never seen a bodybuilder look as good, no mater what he does after a pec tear.  Too bad for Vic.  This could be the end of His O hopes.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Childish///AMG on February 16, 2006, 08:15:17 AM
Wow, that "Bites" we wish him a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: MAXX on February 16, 2006, 08:22:55 AM
It's no so much the weight, it's the form he used.  I've seen guys tear pecs warming up with 135.  On the same note, I've never seen a bodybuilder look as good, no mater what he does after a pec tear.  Too bad for Vic.  This could be the end of His O hopes.
Levrone looked better after his
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Rome on February 16, 2006, 09:46:10 AM
Kev stated this in FLEX.  I think I have the issue around here somewhere. If not, I'm sure someone else does.  The exact quote was something like "Levrone tore his pec doing pre-warmup deep flyes with 60 lb DBs, remarkably light for him". 
I do remember that it was something like that. A lot of muscle tears happen with lighter weight. Years ago Vince Taylor tore his bicep doing SUPER light curls and a guy at my gym tore a pec doing 225 inclines(really light for him, he was huge.) I think it's because you tend to get careless with the lighter weight and when you combine that with a lot of A.S....POP
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Rome on February 16, 2006, 09:50:18 AM
Didn't 240 have a meltdown where he deleted his account and signed up again 15 minutes later?   ???
Classic getbig. NOTHING is funnier than meltdowns  ;D
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Stavios on February 16, 2006, 10:01:43 AM
Thanks Rudy for the info. Good to hear victor is ok cause I expect a top 3 at the arnold for him !  ;D
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Man of Steel on February 16, 2006, 10:14:57 AM
Injuries can happen with heavy, light and no weight in the gym.   I've dislocated my knee racking a 50lb dumbbell .....freak accident.   I've dislocated my shoulder twice in the gym....once shoulder pressing 300 lbs on the Smith and a second time db pressing 100lbs in mid-warmup.....the injuries happened 3 years apart.  I injured my low back on the 14th rep of 500lbs on hack squats (will never forget that set) and then I reinjured my lower back a year later warming up with 225lbs on bb rows on the 12th rep.   I once felt a pop in my right bicep while hammer curling only 30 lbs, and another time I felt a lesser pop in the same bicep curling 90lb dbs.   I severely strained my left pec decline pressing 430 lbs on the Smith on my 4th rep and another time I hurt my right pec pressing 185lbs on flat bench at about my 18th rep.......no rhyme or reason for any of it.   Goes to show that heavy, light and no weight can all cause injury.      
MOS
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: brianX on February 16, 2006, 10:58:12 AM
I know what you're saying, Man of Steel. I tore my pec on the 35th rep of 500 lb on bench presses. I also dislocated my shoulder doing barbell military presses with 700. Muscle tears can happen to anyone.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Man of Steel on February 16, 2006, 11:22:41 AM
I know what you're saying, Man of Steel. I tore my pec on the 35th rep of 500 lb on bench presses. I also dislocated my shoulder doing barbell military presses with 700. Muscle tears can happen to anyone.


Call me crazy, but I detect a bit of sarcasm in your post.



MOS
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: alexxx on February 16, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
hahaha how can you injure yourself on the strickest movements ? Machines  hold your candy ass at one place..  :P
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Man of Steel on February 16, 2006, 11:37:04 AM
hahaha how can you injure yourself on the strickest movements ? Machines  hold your candy ass at one place..  :P

Some folks might consider that a limited range of motion; hence, a universal plane with which the weight moves doesn't necessarily fit everyone perfectly.



MOS
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: sarcasm on February 16, 2006, 12:29:44 PM
Injuries can happen with heavy, light and no weight in the gym.   I've dislocated my knee racking a 50lb dumbbell .....freak accident.   I've dislocated my shoulder twice in the gym....once shoulder pressing 300 lbs on the Smith and a second time db pressing 100lbs in mid-warmup.....the injuries happened 3 years apart.  I injured my low back on the 14th rep of 500lbs on hack squats (will never forget that set) and then I reinjured my lower back a year later warming up with 225lbs on bb rows on the 12th rep.   I once felt a pop in my right bicep while hammer curling only 30 lbs, and another time I felt a lesser pop in the same bicep curling 90lb dbs.   I severely strained my left pec decline pressing 430 lbs on the Smith on my 4th rep and another time I hurt my right pec pressing 185lbs on flat bench at about my 18th rep.......no rhyme or reason for any of it.   Goes to show that heavy, light and no weight can all cause injury.      
MOS
in all seriousness MOS how on earth did you in jure your lower back on hack squats, there's a back rest.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Kaliym73 on February 16, 2006, 12:51:43 PM
This is bad. A pec tear ain't no joke. I just wish Vic can come back from it and have a career. All the best.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: pumpster on February 16, 2006, 12:58:39 PM
I wonder if some of those tears, the ones related to warmups, are avoidable and related to insufficient or poorly executed warmups. Sounds like what happened with Lavrone.

As far as getting injured later in a workout while going heavy, any suggestions? I think keeping the reps moderate, never below around 8, helps, as does avoidance of any exercise that causes "bad" stress to the body.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Big Lee on February 16, 2006, 01:46:03 PM
A training partner of Vics has come forward on another board and stated this is a dumbass bogus complete crock of shit runour.  Dont beleive the crap.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: rudylrichards on February 16, 2006, 02:25:38 PM
Thanks Rudy for the info. Good to hear victor is ok cause I expect a top 3 at the arnold for him !  ;D
You're welcome, guess you're the only one who read my post. everyone else is posting on how sad it is and wishing a speedy recovery. It would be sad luckily
He did not tear his pec. it's BS.  Vi
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: ARMZ on February 16, 2006, 02:28:48 PM
I can tell you right now if any muscle tore it can NOT be repaired, only if the tendon tears you can get it fixed by putting what they call a hanger on the bone and reattaching the tendon to the shoulder area. The bigger the muscle the weaker the tendon gets by stealing all the nutrients from the tendon leaving it as weak as a 60 year old mans tendon. Roids are usually the culprit.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Stavios on February 16, 2006, 02:29:09 PM
You're welcome, guess you're the only one who read my post. everyone else is posting on how sad it is and wishing a speedy recovery. It would be sad luckily
He did not tear his pec. it's BS.  Vi
Are you doing the USA man ? If you come harder you will be tough to beat :o
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: pumpster on February 16, 2006, 02:31:58 PM
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if any muscle tore it can NOT be repaired

Nothing can be done, career over?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Man of Steel on February 16, 2006, 02:37:07 PM
in all seriousness MOS how on earth did you in jure your lower back on hack squats, there's a back rest.
I wish I knew.....I was in the middle of a normal set and in lowest part of the rep I felt something in my low spine shift slightly to the left and it felt like lightning shot through me and I didn't walk for 3 days.  It wasn't the amount of weight....that was warmup weight I'd normally and easily grind out 15 reps with.   There is a degenerative spine condition on my father's side of the family.....he suffers from it and two of his brothers (my uncles) do as well.....apparently I suffer from it also.   It won't ever go away unless medical science finds a way to cure it.  So you can say that it wasn't completely weight, execution of the exercise, etc....that caused the injury.....it was primarily genetics in that case I suppose.



MOS
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: ARMZ on February 16, 2006, 02:41:01 PM
Nothing can be done, career over?
Well, some guys compete with muscle tears. It will just have a cleft or a dent on the outside of his pec.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: rudylrichards on February 16, 2006, 02:42:11 PM
Are you doing the USA man ? If you come harder you will be tough to beat :o
Yep, I'll be there. Thanks Stavios.  Should be a tough class this year. Several legiimate favorites
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: pumpster on February 16, 2006, 02:47:25 PM
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It wasn't the amount of weight....that was warmup weight I'd normally and easily grind out 15 reps with.

Seems like some of the injuries happen during warmup, might be avoidable. Warmups can be boring, it's easy to go through the motions and cause something to happen.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Man of Steel on February 16, 2006, 02:55:28 PM
Seems like some of the injuries happen during warmup, might be avoidable. Warmups can be boring, it's easy to go through the motions and cause something to happen.

Oh without a doubt, some of my injuries occurred when I was young, stupid, ego-driven and inexperienced.   My current training regimen (at least the warm-up portion) in no way resembles my past "warm-up".   Some folks are lucky.  I see guys walk into the gym cold, load a bar with 225 and crank it out for 8 reps, then increase weight over a couple sets and never get injured.   I'm not one of the lucky ones.



MOS
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 25, 2006, 08:46:50 AM
....sorry to bump such an old thread, but does anybody have any proof on this supposed tear?  His pics as of late look fine to me.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: HTexan on June 24, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Yes.. it's true. Big Victor has a pec tear and from what I understand it could be serious but only Vic himself knows. It happened while performing 400lbs Bench Press and from the looks of that weight, I would say that it could be pretty damn serious. All the best to him and a speedy recovery. He'll be floating around the expo from what I hear, so you'll get to question him then.

HOS
Dude is always getting hurt
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: kepler2008 on June 24, 2015, 10:10:17 PM
Information source ?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: SquidVicious on June 24, 2015, 10:57:51 PM
LINCOLN ASSASSINATED!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Bevo on June 25, 2015, 03:06:03 AM
Lots of injured pecs in this thread
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Papper on June 25, 2015, 05:53:05 AM
It's dangerous to go to war. You might end up with an amputated arm or in a wheelchair.

Or rather, you lose an amputated arm don't you?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: K1RB on June 25, 2015, 07:41:39 AM
maybe he will die from it - then folks can talk about how he had whatever killed him( kidney failure, heart disease etc) in his genes...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Hulk-smash! on June 25, 2015, 08:47:51 AM
Steroids significantly weaken connective tissue and thereby increase the chance of muscle tears whose damage is permanent & irreversible.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: BigCyp on June 25, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
Steroids significantly weaken connective tissue and thereby increase the chance of muscle tears whose damage is permanent & irreversible.

I've also wondered about this. No matter how hard and heavy, or for how long you lift weights, if you are effectively a blow up doll with most of your muscle 'mass' coming from hormones/peptides your connective tissue and tendons will never be as 'strong' as your inflated muscles. Sure you will be able to bench 4 plates a side because of the sheer size of your glycogen filled pecs, but when 400 pounds is pulling on much smaller areas such as tie-ins and tendons it will give eventually.

Obviously form plays a big part, and a lot of tears shouldn't have happened, but it does make you wonder.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Hulk-smash! on June 25, 2015, 10:14:14 AM
IMO thats what caused Platz's infamous bicep tear that left him w/ a chicken egg bicep.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: WannaBePro on June 25, 2015, 12:26:15 PM
Steroids significantly weaken connective tissue and thereby increase the chance of muscle tears whose damage is permanent & irreversible.

I don't think its the steroids that weaken connective tissue, but the increase in muscle strength that overpowers connective tissue strength. What I mean is, you naturally have joint/ligament strength of 5 and muscular strength of 3 (these numbers mean nothing, I'm just trying to make a point). Then you start lifting weights and muscle strength goes up to 5, so now your joints and muscles are "equally as strong". Then you start juicing and muscle strength goes up to 8 or 10 and now the joints/ligaments are lagging, even though they haven't gotten weaker, they're still at strength level 5. But because the muscle is now at a 10 it will overpower joint strength and eventually "win".
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Hulk-smash! on June 25, 2015, 02:40:46 PM
http://www.charmaustin.com/page3/page51/page54/page54.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1997802
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Bevo on June 25, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
It's dangerous to go to war. You might end up with an amputated arm or in a wheelchair.

Or rather, you lose an amputated arm don't you?


Lucky if u end up in a wheel chair , that means u don't have to train legs anymore, can enter wheel chair bbing shows
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: michael arvilla on June 25, 2015, 05:08:19 PM
Great pics!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Fortress on June 25, 2015, 05:53:41 PM
... said he was benching 600 ...

Levrone, fully gassed, is a STRONG presser, but at no time has he been able to bench six hundred. Five for several, sure. Six? Nope.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez, Pec Tear!
Post by: Bevo on June 25, 2015, 06:19:47 PM
Levrone, fully gassed, is a STRONG presser, but at no time has he been able to bench six hundred. Five for several, sure. Six? Nope.

Nope highly doubt he could bench 6 plates even at his strongest. Very strong but 600 pounds for reps is nonsense

Kevin lies a lot, claims 5'11 with 24 inch arms, go figure

Good bber and his training vids on chest is one of the best of all the pros