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After collapsing at home on August 31, 2011, Luke Wood, 35, was rushed to Westmead Hospital where he died from a severe haemorrhage, eight weeks before he was due to be married.
The family of a much-loved Australian bodybuilding champion who died following complications from a kidney transplant say a Sydney hospital is hiding the truth.
After collapsing at home on August 31, 2011, Luke Wood, 35, was rushed to Westmead Hospital where he died from a severe haemorrhage, eight weeks before he was due to be married.
He had undergone a kidney transplant on August 20, but on August 23 his body started showing signs of rejecting the organ.
Mr Wood was taken to hospital and given drugs as dark bruises appeared on his abdomen.
He was discharged on August 26 and told to return for daily check-ups for a month, but died five days later.
His death is being examined by the NSW Coroner - with a particular focus on his treatment at Westmead Hospital.
His fiance told reporters outside the Glebe Coroners Court on Monday that his family feel cheated.
"Obviously there's something that's happened that they're trying to hide and we just want the truth to come out," Nora Haddad said, with her sister and Mr Wood's sister at her side.
She described her fiance as an inspirational, humble, gentle giant who spent lots of time with fans.
Arnold Schwarzenegger had personally invited Mr Wood to his eponymous bodybuilding competition.
As a younger man Mr Wood played with the Canterbury-Bankstown and Balmain Rugby League junior clubs, where he developed his interest in bodybuilding.
Questions have been raised about whether Mr Wood was on steroids and if they played a part in his death.
"Luke admitted to use of steroids to some medical practitioners," counsel assisting the coroner Patrick Griffin said on Monday.
"His musculature was consistent with the use of steroids."
But Ms Haddad said she didn't believe that steroids should be an issue in this case.
The inquest continues.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/25301696/bodybuilders-family-want-truth/
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Bodybuilder Luke Wood died after hospital delays, inquest told
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Champion Australian bodybuilder Luke Wood, whose death is being examined in the NSW Coroner's Court this week. Photo: steroidanalysis.com
The death of a champion bodybuilder followed hospital treatment that was marred by delays in receiving a vital scan, and the failure of doctors to access treatment notes, a coronial inquest has heard.
But the inquest also heard that anabolic steroid use was one of the contributing factors in his death.
Luke Wood, 35, a six-time winner of the Australian Body Building Championships, died on August 31, 2011 - 11 days after he underwent kidney transplant surgery.
The NSW Coroner's Court heard on Monday that the immediate cause of the bodybuilder's death was cardiac arrest but that this was related to "a massive haemorrhage" in his abdomen following the transplant.
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The inquest heard that doctors at Westmead Hospital made a desperate attempt to save Wood's life with an emergency laparotomy, but were unable to resuscitate him when he went into cardiac arrest.
The inquest heard that, after arriving at the hospital about 3pm, the bodybuilder had to wait for up to four hours before completing a CT scan to determine the cause and extent of his abdominal bleeding.
The Emergency Registrar who initially treated Woods, Sambantham Muralitharan, said that he had requested the scan "urgently" and believed it had happened within an hour of his request about 5pm
However, the inquest heard that, partly as a consequence of the many patients waiting to use Westmead's one working CT scanner, the scan was not completed until 6.51pm.
The court also heard that doctors could not access the full medical notes regarding Wood's kidney transplant and his post-operative treatment.
"We have evidence that the relevant renal notes were locked in a room and not accessible. Did you know that?" counsel assisting the commission, Patrick Griffin, asked Dr Muralitharan.
Dr Muralitharan said that the notes had not been necessary because a kidney specialist involved in the transplant operation was present in the emergency department on the day in question.
"But how could any registrar on the renal team or on the emergency team not be fully appraised of the minutiae of Luke's case if they didn't have his notes?" Deputy NSW Coroner Sharon Freund asked the doctor.
The doctor said that some of this information was available via the hospital's computer system.
Mr Griffin said that the adequacy of the hospital's treatment of Wood would be the main focus of the inquest.
However, he said that there was evidence Wood's steroid use was also a contributing factor to his death by causing the heart condition cardiomyopathy.
"Luke admitted to the use of steroids to some of his medical practitioners though not to his family or his GP," Mr Griffin said.
"But this inquest is not about the use and abuse of anabolic steroids."
The hearing continues.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bodybuilder-luke-wood-died-after-hospital-delays-inquest-told-20141020-118q2t.html#ixzz3GfR0Hwjl
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Yes, I just saw this news. Very sad what happened to Luke. He was a nice bloke.
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If it helps the family to get answers and find closure then they should pursue this. RIP
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Where theres blame theres a claim. ::)
Guy wasnt a well man, he went into hospital for a life saving operation and it didnt work.
Now did the hospital deliberatly make a mess of the OP and kill him?
Of course not.
Were they negligent?
If its proved a surgeon or doctor cut corners in the op which caused his death then yes.
If they treated him like every other patient then fact is, he just died, his body was not healthy enough to survive the op.
People always want someone to blame.
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The IFBB a certainly not blameless in all this.
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Keep injecting the poison folks... Its good for ya guns brah ::)
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If they went back to his posts on this board where he admitted to accidentally taking 1000x the dose of Thyroid drugs resulting in huge stress on the body and drastic weight loss then the doctors could have a hell of an argument.
It's sad that he died but he took a lot of risks and there's no saying he wouldn't have died regardless at that point. A doctor shouldn't lose his job because Luke Wood took a lot of drugs to compete in a contest which caused his problems and he was trying to help him.
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I took BIG risks and was in all honesty a fool who traded his life for some muscle suit.
People like that can be happy that medical personal doesn't inject them with rat poison.
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Personally I blame the schmoes. Without them things like this wouldn't happen.
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I don't want to sound like a girl over this but lets look at this
'But Ms Haddad said she didn't believe that steroids should be an issue in this case.
"Steroids is not what killed him, it was the kidney transplant," she said.
“Obviously there’s something that’s happened that they’re trying to hide and we just want the truth to come out,” Ms Haddad said, with her sister and Mr Wood’s sister at her side.
How can you say the hospital is trying to hide something when you won't say he was on steroids let alone a heap of worse drugs for the kidneys? Why did he need a transplant at 35? It sucks the doctor is hammered when he wasn't the one who brought it on Luke Wood and he can't control if a body doesn't accept the donation.
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I don't want to sound like a girl over this but lets look at this
'But Ms Haddad said she didn't believe that steroids should be an issue in this case.
"Steroids is not what killed him, it was the kidney transplant," she said.
“Obviously there’s something that’s happened that they’re trying to hide and we just want the truth to come out,” Ms Haddad said, with her sister and Mr Wood’s sister at her side.
How can you say the hospital is trying to hide something when you won't say he was on steroids let alone a heap of worse drugs for the kidneys? Why did he need a transplant at 35? It sucks the doctor is hammered when he wasn't the one who brought it on Luke Wood and he can't control if a body doesn't accept the donation.
I didn't know him personally , never met him but "apparently" he used diuretics year round (along with everything else) just to keep that freaky look going in the gym to impress others.
He had some major insecurity issues which unfortunately had a huge part in the kidney failure with the choices he made.
Still sad he passed away though but Simon is right with the below.
Where theres blame theres a claim. ::)
Guy wasnt a well man, he went into hospital for a life saving operation and it didnt work.
Now did the hospital deliberatly make a mess of the OP and kill him?
Of course not.
Were they negligent?
If its proved a surgeon or doctor cut corners in the op which caused his death then yes.
If they treated him like every other patient then fact is, he just died, his body was not healthy enough to survive the op.
People always want someone to blame.
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Whats even more baffling is that this made the Australian news. Is this the best news they can come up with? :D
Another shrimp on the barbie!!
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Whats even more baffling is that this made the Australian news. Is this the best news they can come up with? :D
Another shrimp on the barbie!!
Well they ran out of Bachelor stories (honestly all day every day on this), no new Ebola cases, the Rugby coach quit and no-one gives a fuck about Rugby and there was nothing new to report on Jarrod Hayne going to NFL (which he will carve up if he gets the chance). Luke Wood makes front page website.
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If they went back to his posts on this board where he admitted to accidentally taking 1000x the dose of Thyroid drugs resulting in huge stress on the body and drastic weight loss then the doctors could have a hell of an argument.
It's sad that he died but he took a lot of risks and there's no saying he wouldn't have died regardless at that point. A doctor shouldn't lose his job because Luke Wood took a lot of drugs to compete in a contest which caused his problems and he was trying to help him.
wait, wat?
How much t3 did he take?
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Shocker that this idiot needed a transplant-
Got what he deserves...
Who is next?
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Like so many of those that take drugs to "build" their bodies, this fool's mouth was more open to lying than his mind was to actually changing for the better, i.e., getting off drugs for life.
His "grieving" family? They're not looking for sympathy. Money is what they are after and perhaps they will proffer his prospective lifetime earnings from schmoes in this effort to steal from the hospital. The kidney donor or their family if they were a deceased organ donor, needs to sue the Wood family for this imitation of life having wasted their relatives literal gift of life.
He chose poorly. As a result, not an intercourse was given.
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Now you know kids, don't pull off a Derek Anthony.
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I think that Luke knew that he destroyed himself.
How does his family not understand that fact?
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Well they ran out of Bachelor stories (honestly all day every day on this), no new Ebola cases, the Rugby coach quit and no-one gives a fuck about Rugby and there was nothing new to report on Jarrod Hayne going to NFL (which he will carve up if he gets the chance). Luke Wood makes front page website.
Jarrod Hayne will end up like Luke Wood.
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This is one strange sport that couldn't exist without syringes, pills and vials. You got people on drugs watching a contest of oiled up guys posing to music in a thong.
The fans using drugs to look muscular are in constant rationalization saying bodybuilding drugs a safe. It's like saying your grandma smoked for 60 years and she is still kicking so the risk to health from cigarettes is over blown. Not if you are the one who gets cancer or heart disease.
Guys who go off drugs for 6 months and suddenly look very ordinary delusionally state that drugs are just the final 10%. I think this sport comes down to insecure young men who conscientiously and unconsciously want to be praised for being a man through drug muscles that they wouldn't have without drugs.
I'm all for bodybuilding, fitness and working out but this insanity of doing cycle after cycle of drugs bought out of the trunk of a car from your local dealers is just a bizarre life choice.
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what causes the kidney failure? cant be test right? is it the diuretics?
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wait, wat?
How much t3 did he take?
This is what Milos quoted on his board re Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
TBM
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This is what Milos quoted on his board re Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
TBM
smells like bullshit.
Whi doses t3 or t4 in mg instead of mcg? I mean how the fuck does that happen?
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He didn't deserve the kidney anyway... It's common practice to reject drug addicts as candidates for organ transplant.
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If they went back to his posts on this board where he admitted to accidentally taking 1000x the dose of Thyroid drugs resulting in huge stress on the body and drastic weight loss then the doctors could have a hell of an argument.
It's sad that he died but he took a lot of risks and there's no saying he wouldn't have died regardless at that point. A doctor shouldn't lose his job because Luke Wood took a lot of drugs to compete in a contest which caused his problems and he was trying to help him.
This is true but after Enzo do we even know if it was really Luke Wood who posted here?
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I think that Luke knew that he destroyed himself.
How does his family not understand that fact?
bingo,i dont care what anyone says when a parent has got a son who is super huge im pretty sure steroids have crossed there minds afew times,why didnt they try to talk to him then,before all that stuff happened? maybe they did who knows
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Luke was a great getbigger. He could mix it up with the best of them!
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smells like bullshit.
Whi doses t3 or t4 in mg instead of mcg? I mean how the fuck does that happen?
Research chem websites and UG labs, I have to shake my heads at people buying non HG t3 , I'm sure bubba in his basement accurately dosed your liquid t3 with his $30 food scale
That aside that much t3 would probably feel like a concentrated 24 hour crack bender so I don't see how he could have done that
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wait, wat?
How much t3 did he take?
That's what I heard too. He used milligrams (mg) instead of micrograms (mcg) in his dosages. Dunno what kind of crazy concentration liquids he was getting or if he chugged like a liter of the shit, so caveat emptor on this story.
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This is what Milos quoted on his board re Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
TBM
hahahahahahaha oh well, he wasnt going to find a cure for cancer anyway.
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Jarrod Hayne will end up like Luke Wood.
The Hayne Train will be making less stops than moosejays train.
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He certainly didn't look good at his last contest showing when he o/d'd on the t3.
I worked in a major public hospital in Brisbane for half a year. I can well imagine that it took someone forever to organise a CT scan when he was brought in. The fuckups that happened (at least at the PA hospital) were astounding.
Something I learned. In legal matters, hospitals have deep pockets and will go to great lengths to protect their doctors. I can understand Luke's family wanting to blame someone, but I'd be surprised if they get any closure from the hospital.
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Has nothing to do with what he did in the past. Bottom line is there are too many sick people and not enough hospitals. I've seen it many many times. The only time that they will sometimes rush you into the ER ahead of people is if you are having chest pains. I've seen people laying on the floor in agony just waiting their turn.
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I didn't know him personally , never met him but "apparently" he used diuretics year round (along with everything else) just to keep that freaky look going in the gym to impress others.
He had some major insecurity issues which unfortunately had a huge part in the kidney failure with the choices he made.
Still sad he passed away though but Simon is right with the below.
That explains a lot. Frankly, I don't like using them for 2 days every couple years for competitions. Twice a year for 2 days would be the max. The psychological issues obviously led to his downfall, but there is no shame in that. It's just too bad that he couldn't have recognized them and got help...RIP.
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Where theres blame theres a claim. ::)
Guy wasnt a well man, he went into hospital for a life saving operation and it didnt work.
Now did the hospital deliberatly make a mess of the OP and kill him?
Of course not.
Were they negligent?
If its proved a surgeon or doctor cut corners in the op which caused his death then yes.
If they treated him like every other patient then fact is, he just died, his body was not healthy enough to survive the op.
People always want someone to blame.
This
The search for a scapegoat is the easiest of all hunting expeditions
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Reading the title i thought the family was going to prosecute our lad Milos.
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Here's the truth...The truth is he was a shitty bodybuilder who finished last in nearly every top tier show he entered, abused an astronomical amount of drugs and he took a kidney from someone who actually needed it and could've lived a long and productive life if Luke hadn't cut the kidney line because someone at the kidney clinic was a closet schmoe.
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The Hayne Train will be making less stops than moosejays train.
Maybe then he can go play for the Wallabies and win games by himself and show your precious All Blacks to be U/20 league players at best ;)
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He was Munzered!
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family wants the truth?
Lol
the truth is he completely destroyed his internal organs abusing steroids.
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family wants the truth?
Lol
the truth is he completely destroyed his internal organs abusing steroids.
They don't want THAT truth. They want the truth that leads to a hospital ponying up a few million bucks.
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just another evidence most morons who use steroids have no real clue what they re doing with them until they start shiting blood.
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just another evidence most morons who use steroids have no real clue what they re doing with them until they start shiting blood.
don't need much evidence to see that bbers are not of mensa material do you?
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There is a case for claiming that the hospital were negligent sending him home when they themselves suspected his body might be rejecting the kidney. If they believed this was a distinct possibly, he should have been admitted immediately and kept under observation. This is no doubt the thing the family are asking questions about.
The silly things he did to his body to necessitate the need for the transplant would not be relevant as we are talking about his aftercare.
I am not saying I agree that there is a case for malpractice. I'm just saying what I think the real issue is.
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There is a case for claiming that the hospital were negligent sending him home when they themselves suspected his body might be rejecting the kidney. If they believed this was a distinct possibly, he should have been admitted immediately and kept under observation. This is no doubt the thing the family are asking questions about.
The silly things he did to his body to necessitate the need for the transplant would not be relevant as we are talking about his aftercare.
I am not saying I agree that there is a case for malpractice. I'm just saying what I think the real issue is.
Hi Eric Duncan!
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where's Milos?
shouldn't he be @ the inquest?
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Luke was blessed to get a new organ and have a few more days of life. The fact that he admitted to using steroids even after he got it says everything. Like Derek Anthony, he didn't know when to quit so God made the decision for him
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truly darwinism/natural selection
this is how we evolve
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Luke was blessed to get a new organ and have a few more days of life. The fact that he admitted to using steroids even after he got it says everything. Like Derek Anthony, he didn't know when to quit so God made the decision for him
God? so you re a christian now?
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smells like bullshit.
Whi doses t3 or t4 in mg instead of mcg? I mean how the fuck does that happen?
Lol x2.... dosing a compound 100x too strong would be one hell of a fuckup even for a UGL to make. And pharmacy brands of thyroid medication don't come dosed in mg, flat out. What a load of shit
Something else was at play here.
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Lol x2.... dosing a compound 100x too strong would be one hell of a fuckup even for a UGL to make. And pharmacy brands of thyroid medication don't come dosed in mg, flat out. What a load of shit
Something else was at play here.
Milos simply guessed as to the dosing of the pills based on some blood
thyroid reading Luke got at the hospital. I remember I told him it would be
impossible for him to know the dosage of the pills based on that. Too many
factors with drug metabolism etc.
It was some Thai UG thyroid apparently.
Milos OD'd on thyroid once himself.
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Luke sabotaged himself with thyroid and diuretics on more than one occasion even when he knew what the dosages were and had been advised to take less directly by Milos. That was Luke and thats what brought him undone, nice guy, but he really struggled mentally, still didn't deserve this ending steroids or not. Hope the hospital didnt attach a steroid stigma to him, if there was ever a guy you could meet who was struggling with compulsive mental issues associated with bodybuilding and steroids it was Luke, he needed help.
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Luke was friends with the owner of a gym I used to train at. He gave Luke a large bottle of a transdermal test gel that you rub on the skin similar to 1test. Luke proceeded to drink it and said it tasted horrible. That could give you an indication of his mindset right there.
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where's Milos?
There's your truth right there. More blood on his hands than a menstruating masturbator.
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There's your truth right there. More blood on his hands than a menstruating masturbator.
What retching imagery, TU. You've won the gross out award of the day.
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They want the truth? They can't handle the truth.
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Luke was friends with the owner of a gym I used to train at. He gave Luke a large bottle of a transdermal test gel that you rub on the skin similar to 1test. Luke proceeded to drink it and said it tasted horrible. That could give you an indication of his mindset right there.
I don't understand that level of self-destruction when the pay off is meager. A multi-million dollar contract to play in the NFL is one thing, winning a plastic trophy at a bodybuilding pageant is another.
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there is something self destructive about bodybuilding pushed to its extremes, ie while on drugs.
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There's your truth right there. More blood on his hands than a menstruating masturbator.
hahahaha!
Once i've done make-up sex when she was on her period. It looked like a crime scene at the end.
:D
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I don't understand that level of self-destruction when the pay off is meager. A multi-million dollar contract to play in the NFL is one thing, winning a plastic trophy at a bodybuilding pageant is another.
I guess being big became his identity and the only thing he was good at. He admitted to using gear after getting a kidney transplant which is pure desperation to hold on to his identity. I mean we laughed about him drinking this test gel thinking is it was retarded and funny but it seems he would do that with a lot of chemicals having complete disregard for reading the label and looking at dosages. Plus not even caring what was in it or the consequences for his health. Worst being when he had a thyroid storm and almost cooked his internal organs . I heard him talk about being on stage with his childhood heroes. He was a big kid basically. Childlike mentality.
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there is something self destructive about bodybuilding pushed to its extremes, ie while on drugs.
It's 100% mental illness. Not surprising that many are linked to the h0m0sexual community...