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Title: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 23, 2014, 06:31:16 AM
Ok, this clip has two bodybuilder stars big and ripped, exactly the way  "meat heads" are perceived ,

The sigma of BB, not matter how swollen still selfish, (attention whoring) and insecure .

1- The first bb, (Aaron Clark ) when asked to take his shirt off,  he does not hesitate, with a FINALLY ! expression on his face (which is fine with me on a bodybuilding expo) sad thing is that girls around won't give a F"

2- The best part is his fellow BB, Justin Compton  with the grey shirt on (even bigger and swollen)  instead of getting out of the way so the Aaron flexes for the cam, he tries at all cost to remain in the way, spreading them lats like he was caring out two buckets of water ...then when he does not know what to do, he leans on the counter right behind the guy flexing and spreads his lats like if Dorian was watching him. LOL

3- Then,  the shirtless bodybuilder decides to move to another area to pose "freely" but there's this kid right next to him looking at him like a dad to his son "why couldn't he pick football or baseball" expression on his face.

Enjoy :





WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Beckenbauer on October 23, 2014, 06:59:18 AM
I watched the vid but holy shit overanalysing this. U clearly have a hard on for this dude  :D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Natural Man on October 23, 2014, 07:07:32 AM
Yes, body dismorphia and bodybuilding are serious illnesses. When you have nothing in life to be proud of, all you re left with is your physical appearance. They re not different than stupid but good looking women. Others compensate for their ugliness or weak physical appearance with diplomas , salaries, material goods... that's just the way it is, we re all vain animals.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: XBB007 on October 23, 2014, 07:13:15 AM
Yes, body dismorphia and bodybuilding are serious illnesses. When you have nothing in life to be proud of, all you re left with is your physical appearance. They re not different than stupid but good looking women. Others compensate for their ugliness or weak physical appearance with diplomas , salaries, material goods... that's just the way it is, we re all vain animals.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: TheShape. on October 23, 2014, 07:16:00 AM
This is cringe-worthy. Exactly why I don't like being given the name bodybuilder. These guys don't even look good, distended bellies and holding gallons of water, can't even walk..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 23, 2014, 07:19:55 AM
At least they're smart enough by not wasting money on test 'boosters'.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: the trainer on October 23, 2014, 07:23:41 AM
Yes, body dismorphia and bodybuilding are serious illnesses. When you have nothing in life to be proud of, all you re left with is your physical appearance. They re not different than stupid but good looking women. Others compensate for their ugliness or weak physical appearance with diplomas , salaries, material goods... that's just the way it is, we re all vain animals.

The twink world of urbertwink.

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Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 23, 2014, 08:08:48 AM
I watched the vid but holy shit overanalysing this. U clearly have a hard on for this dude  :D

LOL.

Actually everytime I go to youtube this popular clip its on my "history/ recomended whatever"home page GEAR.tv



But yeah , you can say I see at first glimpse  what others can't



WooOSSSHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 23, 2014, 08:11:59 AM
At least they're smart enough by not wasting money on test 'boosters'.


WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 23, 2014, 08:24:47 AM

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHH


Needle in a Jay stack...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Hulkotron on October 23, 2014, 09:02:41 AM
Very strange behaviour
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: local hero on October 23, 2014, 09:12:45 AM
Needle in a Jay stack...

Well said...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 23, 2014, 09:19:40 AM
Yes, body dismorphia and bodybuilding are serious illnesses. When you have nothing in life to be proud of, all you re left with is your physical appearance. They re not different than stupid but good looking women. Others compensate for their ugliness or weak physical appearance with diplomas , salaries, material goods... that's just the way it is, we re all vain animals.

That'd be true (idk, maybe in US that is the rule), but I personally know medical professionals, lawyers, succesfull bussinessmans, etc (in almost 15 years I've know quite some people who are doing this activity) who are on drugs, and many of them are very stable individuals in many ways. I think some people (me included) just want to transcend the "human limits" and get even more of what's available in this world. I get a rush of even thinking about going "beyond current biological" limits, and that doesn't end with bb'ing.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 23, 2014, 02:52:44 PM
Very strange behaviour

Would someone please explain,  The reason for this strange behavior?
 
In exploitation's name We must be working for the skin trade


Woosshhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: no one on October 23, 2014, 02:56:15 PM
Ok, this clip has two bodybuilders big and ripped, exactly the way  "meet heads" are perceived ,

The sigma of BB, not matter how swollen still selfish, (attention whoring) and insecure .

1- The first bb, (short dude) when asked to take his shirt off,  he does not hesitate, with a FINALLY ! expression on his face (which is fine with me on a bodybuilding expo) sad thing is that girls around won't give a F"

2- The best part is his fellow BB, the one with the grey shirt on (even bigger and swollen)  instead of getting out of the way so the other guy flexes for the cam, he tries at all cost to remain in the way, spreading them lats like he was caring out two buckets of water ...then when he does not know what to do, he leans on the counter right behind the guy flexing and spreads his lats like if Dorian was watching him. LOL

3- Then,  the shirtless bodybuilder decides to move to another area to pose "freely" but there's this kid right next to him looking at him like a dad to his son "why couldn't he pick football or baseball" expression on his face.




4- then xfactor and i walk by with our shirts on followed closely behind by every hot chick in the expo.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: honest on October 23, 2014, 03:38:01 PM
yeah it sucks I attend conferences annually and whilst I know nearly all delegates and they know me, theres always new ones who single you out as who's that guy and just think your some meathead because your not in the bar everyday drinking. But then you see a bodybuilder like in the vid and you have to forgive them, bodybuilders are tools plain and simple, i tell people I just train with weights and used to play footy,helps that I dont look that way anymore as well, ask myself all the time what was I thinking but in saying that before business that was my passion and i enjoyed the lifestyle.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 23, 2014, 08:13:15 PM
yeah it sucks I attend conferences annually and whilst I know nearly all delegates and they know me, theres always new ones who single you out as who's that guy and just think your some meathead because your not in the bar everyday drinking. But then you see a bodybuilder like in the vid and you have to forgive them, bodybuilders are tools plain and simple, i tell people I just train with weights and used to play footy,helps that I dont look that way anymore as well, ask myself all the time what was I thinking but in saying that before business that was my passion and i enjoyed the lifestyle.

Lol.. that is nothing.. I'm an IT geek, now imagine when a regular client comes to hire me for some job and sees a seriously jacked fella (they expect something more like a stereotypical basement computer rat), I usualy have to be very nice and wellcoming to break the ice and let them know I'm not just a moron with muscles and they actually came to see me not someone else.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: The Scott on October 23, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
Needle in a Jay stack...

Excellent phraseology!  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: jude2 on October 23, 2014, 08:51:04 PM
The huge guy in he gray shirt is the next great thing in BB, Justin Compton.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: The Scott on October 23, 2014, 08:57:38 PM
All drugs.  As with others of this kind I look forward to their personal "Road To Dialysis".  The pussification of men too impatient, too insecure and just plain old too stupid lazy to do anything worth anything except pose for schmoes.


To hell with these retards.  I imagine their obits will have something in them about how they loved Jesus and have gone home to be with Him.  The only "Jesus" these pathological buttwipes will ever know is Phat Jaysus the Hispandex Schmoe-King.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: gracie bjj on October 23, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
i knew alot of guys on the road to disaster who got blessed by having a kid with their wife/girlfreind and started realizing there r other important things in life besides trying to be the biggest dude around,they now had a baby to focus on and turn some of that obsessive behavior towards the baby. or maybe got a good promotion on their job n started seeing life alittle differently.a person can still bodybuild to their hearts desire n still have a great life outside the gym,thats what anybodys goal should be imo if u lift weights and wanna get the most life has to offer at the same time
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 24, 2014, 06:19:30 AM
i knew alot of guys on the road to disaster who got blessed by having a kid with their wife/girlfreind and started realizing there r other important things in life besides trying to be the biggest dude around,they now had a baby to focus on and turn some of that obsessive behavior towards the baby. or maybe got a good promotion on their job n started seeing life alittle differently.a person can still bodybuild to their hearts desire n still have a great life outside the gym,thats what anybodys goal should be imo if u lift weights and wanna get the most life has to offer at the same time

Can't you be Huge and ripped without the "obsessive behavior that comes along with it ?


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 24, 2014, 08:47:03 AM
Can't you be Huge and ripped without the "obsessive behavior that comes along with it ?


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

I see it from a different perspective; you care too much about a midget, that suddenly starts to strike some poses.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Natural Man on October 24, 2014, 11:00:08 AM
Can't you be Huge and ripped without the "obsessive behavior that comes along with it ?


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
most people just shift their focus toward smarter, more natural endeavours like studies, careers... doing so they re as obsessive as bodybuilders. It all depends of your upbringings, education, environment.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: APE907 on October 24, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
i knew alot of guys on the road to disaster who got blessed by having a kid with their wife/girlfreind and started realizing there r other important things in life besides trying to be the biggest dude around,they now had a baby to focus on and turn some of that obsessive behavior towards the baby. or maybe got a good promotion on their job n started seeing life alittle differently.a person can still bodybuild to their hearts desire n still have a great life outside the gym,thats what anybodys goal should be imo if u lift weights and wanna get the most life has to offer at the same time

It was not until I had a son that I finally took serious look at my own OCD/bodybuilding/drugged lifestyle that I had been leading for 20 years.  I realized I was role modeling horrible behavior to a little kid who thought I was a god and was going to imitate me and my behavior patterns.  By the time he was around 2+ he noticed I looked different and was "big".

That was when I knew it was time to drop the lifestyle and narcissistic/abusive/unhealthy ways I had followed due to my own body dysmorphia.  Now he is 7 and I'm "normal" sized.  No regrets.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: MikMaq on October 24, 2014, 03:25:43 PM
It was not until I had a son that I finally took serious look at my own OCD/bodybuilding/drugged lifestyle that I had been leading for 20 years.  I realized I was role modeling horrible behavior to a little kid who thought I was a god and was going to imitate me and my behavior patterns.  By the time he was around 2+ he noticed I looked different and was "big".

That was when I knew it was time to drop the lifestyle and narcissistic/abusive/unhealthy ways I had followed due to my own body dysmorphia.  Now he is 7 and I'm "normal" sized.  No regrets.
Solid post.


I'm happy I figured this part out when I was young.


I still wanna juice to high heaven, but I know it won't be enough.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: jr on October 24, 2014, 03:27:35 PM
The best look is the "natural" look. as big and ripped as you can as long as the majority of the population doesn't suspect steroids.
Some lucky people with good genes can achieve this look naturally. The rest a low relatively safe doses of steroids can achieve this look.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: MikMaq on October 24, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
That'd be true (idk, maybe in US that is the rule), but I personally know medical professionals, lawyers, succesfull bussinessmans, etc (in almost 15 years I've know quite some people who are doing this activity) who are on drugs, and many of them are very stable individuals in many ways. I think some people (me included) just want to transcend the "human limits" and get even more of what's available in this world. I get a rush of even thinking about going "beyond current biological" limits, and that doesn't end with bb'ing.
This is Addict talk.

The reality is your not transcending shit. Your just engaging in one strange obsession.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 24, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
most people just shift their focus toward smarter, more natural endeavours like studies, careers... doing so they re as obsessive as bodybuilders. It all depends of your upbringings, education, environment.

Some people have an ability to manage different endeavours in life at the same time.

Tho' I'm not talking about an attempt to become a "pro", that's futile and doomed to fail 99 times out of 100, but majority of people who are jacked and use juice doesn't even compete. The ones I know personally are usualy rich AND smart men who just want to be jacked in addition. You can't blame them. And test after age 30 should be prescribed for everyone that is eager to use it, to a certain dose it's only benefits. A small dose of GH too. For eldrely people, who are over 60-70 (depends on genetics) - test and gh (if they doesn't have a cancer) are a serious aid/way to postpone some serious health issues that come with aging.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 24, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
This is Addict talk.

The reality is your not transcending shit. Your just engaging in one strange obsession.



Everything is an obsession, and yes, I'm obsessed about performance (bb'ing being just a part of a physical side. I enhance/stimulate my brain and some other biochemical processes that I'm aware of, naturally, at least currently). And I'm probably an addict, yes, but that's the same - addiction, obsession.. no difference, we are all addicted to something.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: APE907 on October 24, 2014, 05:44:52 PM
Solid post.


I'm happy I figured this part out when I was young.


I still wanna juice to high heaven, but I know it won't be enough.

The lifestyle destroyed marriage of 10 years and was destroying me.

Hardest part was going from 250lb "gym hero" whose whole identity tied to my look to being a normal guy.

I found after going off I lost all desire to train natural even though I had done it for 13 years before going on the sauce.

Wish I had not turned to dark side but I'm type whose gotta hold hands on stove for about 15 minutes straight before I figure out it is burning me and I should stop. 

Looking back venturing into drug scene was inevitable for me. I am type who would have never been satisfied without knowing my potential on them.

Took me long time to come back to GB and enjoy the humor and brutality without feeling horrible about no longer having a "physique".  Truth is this place still makes me laugh harder than almost anywhere else on interwebs.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: gracie bjj on October 24, 2014, 06:42:38 PM
[quowhole bodybuilding is all that matters to me thing,i figured as long as i was paying the bills and supporting my wife it was cool. then my son comes along and i was still partying with the opiates but started slowing down,problem was i found out my intense pain from my herniated discs came back like a fury and it made it hard to brutal to train thru it.one day about 1 yr ago my son is in my room and i forgot i had some heroin on my desk and he was playing with it n i freaked the hell out, i took it flushed it and thank god my son never touched his mouth or put it in his mouth. he said daddy is that them bad drugs?i said no and he just said good i dont want u to do them.he was crying so i cried to :-[ then we hugged and i realized then that someone actually cared if i lived and didnt die, what a feeling to know that n its been a great ride so far.most of my life i was getting tossed around from relative to relative and never really had a chance to get a base with friends and it sucked, when i was 18 i was able to live on my own and thats what i been doing since thente author=APE907 link=topic=553700.msg7783557#msg7783557 date=1414189360]
It was not until I had a son that I finally took serious look at my own OCD/bodybuilding/drugged lifestyle that I had been leading for 20 years.  I realized I was role modeling horrible behavior to a little kid who thought I was a god and was going to imitate me and my behavior patterns.  By the time he was around 2+ he noticed I looked different and was "big".

That was when I knew it was time to drop the lifestyle and narcissistic/abusive/unhealthy ways I had followed due to my own body dysmorphia.  Now he is 7 and I'm "normal" sized.  No regrets.
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im proud of u man for doing the right thing,people who never had alot of muscle and the good body never will know what its like to b normal looking again when u r used to going to beach and gym n having people stare at u like u did,thats hard as hell to mentally and emotionally get over that man,i cant imagine how hard it musta been for ya but u did the right thing,once u have a kid its not about u or me anymore its thier time to enjoy life also
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on October 25, 2014, 01:54:26 AM
What bothers me about this industry is how people can find gratification in the use of drugs to create the physique. Don't get me wrong, I follow the pro circuit for entertainment, but it doesn't mean I see any logic in the means to their end. It's not even about the fact that you sill need to train hard and eat right - anyone who is serious about looking better automatically does this. No. It's the fact that they're living in a completely fabricated vessel... And the minute you take the needles away from the - stick them in a jail cell, in a hospital, or cut off their finances, they go back to looking like nothing! If they looked like *something* prior to the drugs, it wouldn't matter, because they'd just be recovering junkies.

What a worthless existence.

The best look is the "natural" look. as big and ripped as you can as long as the majority of the population doesn't suspect steroids.
Some lucky people with good genes can achieve this look naturally. The rest a low relatively safe doses of steroids can achieve this look.


That's the problem. No dose of steroids is "safe". Once you come off, you lose that look you're going for. It's still a crutch, just like with any IFBB pro. And depending on your genetic pre-disposition, you're still likely to screw something up.

The question now becomes... is it not worth it to put in a small decade of the one life you have towards seeing if you can build the best possible physique you can naturally, with complete and unrelenting attention to your nutrition and training? A physique you will actually get to keep without using drugs? A lot of the "smaller" natural guys are getting by or doing better just by looking shredded just the same as any average IFBB pro who doesn't crack top 15. And they don't have to worry about injecting every week to maintain their look. It's a fucking crutch. That should be the biggest deterrent from doing it.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 25, 2014, 02:01:30 AM
What bothers me about this industry is how people can find gratification in the use of drugs to create the physique. It's not even about the fact that you sill need to train hard and eat right - anyone who is serious about looking better automatically does this. No. It's the fact that they're living in a completely fabricated vessel... And the minute you take the needles away from the - stick them in a jail cell, in a hospital, or cut off their finances, they go back to looking like nothing! If they looked like *something* prior to the drugs, it wouldn't matter, because they'd just be recovering junkies.

What a worthless existence.

That's the problem. No dose of steroids is "safe". Once you come off, you lose that look you're going for. It's still acrutch, just like with any IFBB pro. And depending on your genetic pre-disposition, you're still likely to screw something up.

The question now becomes... is it not worth it to put in a decade of the one like you have towards seeing if you can build the best possible physique you can naturally, with complete and unrelenting attention to your nutrition and training? A lot of the "smaller" natural guys are getting by or doing better just by looking shredded just the same as any average IFBB pro who doesn't crack top 15. And they don't have to worry about injecting every week to maintain their look. It's a fucking crutch. That should be the biggest deterrent from doing it.
but then the will take up the needle again amd look 10 times better then you in no time lål
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on October 25, 2014, 02:04:15 AM
but then the will take up the needle again amd look 10 times better then you in no time lål

You are still dependent on the drugs to maintain the physique.

Believe it or not, a lot of naturals get to look just as shredded (although not as big) as the smaller bodybuilders who "don't want to use too much" given enough time put in (10 years) and attention to nutrition and training.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 03:18:52 AM
You are still dependent on the drugs to maintain the physique.

Believe it or not, a lot of naturals get to look just as shredded (although not as big) as the smaller bodybuilders who "don't want to use too much" given enough time put in (10 years) and attention to nutrition and training.

You are dependent on money if you want to stay rich...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Parker on October 25, 2014, 03:28:06 AM
That'd be true (idk, maybe in US that is the rule), but I personally know medical professionals, lawyers, succesfull bussinessmans, etc (in almost 15 years I've know quite some people who are doing this activity) who are on drugs, and many of them are very stable individuals in many ways. I think some people (me included) just want to transcend the "human limits" and get even more of what's available in this world. I get a rush of even thinking about going "beyond current biological" limits, and that doesn't end with bb'ing.
One doesn't need drugs to be stable.
If anything you just proved what uberman is saying.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: True on October 25, 2014, 03:41:10 AM
Yes, body dismorphia and bodybuilding are serious illnesses. When you have nothing in life to be proud of, all you re left with is your physical appearance. They re not different than stupid but good looking women. Others compensate for their ugliness or weak physical appearance with diplomas , salaries, material goods... that's just the way it is, we re all vain animals.

But its not all black and white, and attractive people do much better in school than ugly people...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 25, 2014, 04:05:12 AM
You are still dependent on the drugs to maintain the physique.

Believe it or not, a lot of naturals get to look just as shredded (although not as big) as the smaller bodybuilders who "don't want to use too much" given enough time put in (10 years) and attention to nutrition and training.

So what.

I enjoy being a Bodybuilder, and don't have any internal conflicts over it.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 05:14:40 AM
One doesn't need drugs to be stable.
If anything you just proved what uberman is saying.

I consider myself stable (and I was talking about enhancement, not stability. I've trained like a madman for about 10years before turning to the dark side, I'd do the same if for some reason I'd have to stop using stuff.) and bodybuilding is a great addition to my life experience. You know... sometimes you buy a car that's way over your needs (like mine), but it's just fun and... I can.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: gracie bjj on October 25, 2014, 05:23:02 AM
I consider myself stable (and I was talking about enhancement, not stability. I've trained like a madman for about 10years before turning to the dark side, I'd do the same if for some reason I'd have to stop using stuff.) and bodybuilding is a great addition to my life experience. You know... sometimes you buy a car that's way over your needs (like mine), but it's just fun and... I can.

thats cool man,i drive a 84 vette and wish i could get a new one like u did but id be hurting my son cause it would tighten up the money somewhat. im just gonna keep driving the old vette and give my son everything i can possibly give him to make him happy
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: BigNJ on October 25, 2014, 06:08:51 AM
What an inspiring thread.. The minds we have here are just wow

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Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Natural Man on October 25, 2014, 07:03:15 AM
Something that s never mentionned is the fact steroid users are basically self medicamenting themselves with powerful anti depressants without any profesionnal supervision when using hormones that deeply modify their mood and nervous system, the chemistry of neurotransmitters in their brains. This is why there s also a huge psychological crash when the drugs have to be stopped and why most completely lack the will power to lift at all anymore once they stop. This is also to avoid this crash , depressive mental states, that most simply dont want to stop.

But I guess it's asking too much to the typical uneducated, shortcut seeking, insecure meathead who just sees the bigger muscles and newfound attention from other shallow , uneducated individuals steming from having them as  the only thing that matters, completely blind to everything else that's involved especially how the drug addiction modifies the development of your internal organs. No wonder most bodybuilders are compulsive liars surrounded by empty followers, drug dealers and scam artists.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on October 25, 2014, 07:18:12 AM
Something that s never mentionned is the fact steroid users are basically self medicamenting themselves with powerful anti depressants without any profesionnal supervision when using hormones that deeply modify their mood and nervous system, the chemistry of neurotransmitters in their brains. This is why there s also a huge psychological crash when the drugs have to be stopped and why most completely lack the will power to lift at all anymore once they stop. This is also to avoid this crash , depressive mental states, that most simply dont want to stop.

But I guess it's asking too much to the typical uneducated, shortcut seeking, insecure meathead who just sees the bigger muscles and newfound attention from other shallow , uneducated individuals steming from having them as  the only thing that matters, completely blind to everything else that's involved especially how the drug addiction modifies the development of your internal organs. No wonder most bodybuilders are compulsive liars surrounded by empty followers, drug dealers and scam artists.

I think they stop going to the gym because they know without the drugs, it's largely pointless to even do anything since they're never going to progress anymore. This is, the exact reason why bodybuilders do it. It's the insecurity. Most of them simply never got the attention from girls, or from parents, or the respect from people. Many may have been bullied at school, and strongly feel the need to continue to validate themselves and prove they are somehow better than everyone.

It's not necessarily a shortcut for a lot of them. Many, if not all bodybuilders had been competing naturally and training with great understanding of their nutrition as naturals before moving on to the dark side to be fair. But, that move is always, always prompted by an inherent dis-satisfaction with their limitations and their physiques. Most of the time this is brought on by the unrealistic (and pretty much always juiced up) levels displayed in today's social media.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Natural Man on October 25, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
But its not all black and white, and attractive people do much better in school than ugly people...
Of course life is intrinsically unfair and cruel; what maters is wether you have something useful for others to comensate for what you lack, in order to adapt and survive.

Lots of people try to compensate for their shortcomings by overdeveloping others aspects of their lives; this is why bullied small dumb guys inject steroids to feel confident and dominant among other males. Remove the drugs there s nothing. Better educated kids develop their brains and study to become rich and buy power.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on October 25, 2014, 08:03:38 AM
This is Addict talk.

The reality is your not transcending shit. Your just engaging in one strange obsession.



Lol true.

The only bodybuilders/men's physique etc who don't get treated like freaks in person are the ones that respond well to the drug and still end up just pulling off the look of looking not natural, but looking aesthetic as hell anyway.

Of course life is intrinsically unfair and cruel; what maters is wether you have something useful for others to comensate for what you lack, in order to adapt and survive.

Lots of people try to compensate for their shortcomings by overdeveloping others aspects of their lives; this is why bullied small dumb guys inject steroids to feel confident and dominant among other males. Remove the drugs there s nothing. Better educated kids develop their brains and study to become rich and buy power.

This doesn't necessarily ring true in all cases, because sometimes even decent looking and genetically blessed guys end up using drugs. How do you explain Günter Schlierkamp....
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: gracie bjj on October 25, 2014, 08:37:38 AM
drug addicts come in all sorts of shape and sizes and some r extremely ugly while others look like movie stars,drug addiction doesnt discriminate. ive seen women and guys that seem to have it all,looks,money,freinds ect only to lose everything in less than a year and kill themselves or end up in jail,its a hard reality people face when drug addiction takes over a person
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 08:58:21 AM
Plenty of generalizations and bias...

I could introduce some of you to people who use these drugs and the generalizations would end.

Cutlet>"
It's not necessarily a shortcut for a lot of them. Many, if not all bodybuilders had been competing naturally and training with great understanding of their nutrition as naturals before moving on to the dark side to be fair. But, that move is always, always prompted by an inherent dis-satisfaction with their limitations and their physiques. Most of the time this is brought on by the unrealistic (and pretty much always juiced up) levels displayed in today's social media. " -

It's about human nature which is exactly that (as a history has shown) - not to accept the "limitations". Or we would not be able to fly today. I don't accept certain limitations in life (and NOT perfect evolution process) and I won't accept them till my last breath, you and anyone else are free to act as you want tho'. But if I'm an athlete, of any field, I have a passion to be a great athlete. If I'm doing bussiness, I have a passion to do great bussiness, and so on. It's all relative.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: anabolichalo on October 25, 2014, 09:00:43 AM
i dont think i'll ever work out off steroids again

it's totally pointless


unless maybe some jogging, situps and push ups once in a while
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 09:06:30 AM
Of course life is intrinsically unfair and cruel; what maters is wether you have something useful for others to comensate for what you lack, in order to adapt and survive.

Lots of people try to compensate for their shortcomings by overdeveloping others aspects of their lives; this is why bullied small dumb guys inject steroids to feel confident and dominant among other males. Remove the drugs there s nothing. Better educated kids develop their brains and study to become rich and buy power.

I think you are biased, just like me. Your bias is: you chose not to use hormones, while being addicted to a physical fitness (even a small dose of test may make wonders), so you hope that everyone who use are losers, their health will fail and they will regret their use and it can't be anything else than that (so in the end you'd feel good for not "indulging"). I'm biased because I'm taking a risk and hope that I'll be able to manage the possible pay check some time in the future.
 If you are over 30 (you are), I'd suggest you take some good education on hormones and possible benefits (at small doses) for a long run. You know, hormones decline not for some "reason", but merely because everything else is declining in a body, and a substitute is very often better than a "natural downslide". You may end up finding out that you can compete with younger males (for your and your family survival) more effectively with an "artificial" help. Isn't it free for all and the goal justify any means to reach it?

BTW - testosterone has an ability to "sharpen" the thinking process, not just induce the artificial state of well being. Do you want to get dumber sooner than later?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 09:09:42 AM
i dont think i'll ever work out off steroids again

it's totally pointless


unless maybe some jogging, situps and push ups once in a while

I would work out, regardless. I have no issues of going off for a few months periodically and loosing size, nor would I have much issues going off for ever as I'm working on other parts of my life/personality too. Tho' for some reason the "stigma" is that everyone who's doing that is dumb, poor, uneducated and mentally challenged. Well maybe that's how it is is US, idk.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on October 25, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
I would work out, regardless. I have no issues of going off for a few months periodically and loosing size, nor would I have much issues going off for ever as I'm working on other parts of my life/personality too. Tho' for some reason the "stigma" is that everyone who's doing that is dumb, poor, uneducated and mentally challenged. Well maybe that's how it is is US, idk.

After the initial dramatic decline in muscle size, it's feasible to still make improvements after you've declined. So, those who quit obviously only started because they were in it solely for the instant gratification.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 09:56:52 AM
After the initial dramatic decline in muscle size, it's feasible to still make improvements after you've declined. So, those who quit obviously only started because they were in it solely for the instant gratification.

These were doing that for the wrong reasons, that's true. It's possible to at least be ripped and athletic without drugs. With drugs one can be ripped, athletic and just more "perfect" animal in some ways. It's possible to get by driving an old beat up car, as long as it gets you to a destination on time, but it's possible to drive a ferarri too.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on October 25, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
These were doing that for the wrong reasons, that's true. It's possible to at least be ripped and athletic without drugs. With drugs one can be ripped, athletic and just more "perfect" animal in some ways. It's possible to get by driving an old beat up car, as long as it gets you to a destination on time, but it's possible to drive a ferarri too.

I guess the only issue with that is people will think you're still using even in that "old beat up car" which can be very discouraging.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Natural Man on October 25, 2014, 12:27:07 PM
Well if you want to go from point a to b in a ferari while you could do the same in a "normal" car, it means you re whoring for attention and shouldnt be too suprised of some kind of hate/backlash from poorer people you precisely intended to belittle in the first place. Ever heard of humility? If you choose an extreme instead of a balanced approach, dont be surprised to generate extreme answers in return.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: MikMaq on October 25, 2014, 12:53:42 PM
Get big just got serious, ***remembers why no one here talks about training****
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: da_vinci on October 25, 2014, 01:27:23 PM
Well if you want to go from point a to b in a ferari while you could do the same in a "normal" car, it means you re whoring for attention and shouldnt be too suprised of some kind of hate/backlash from poorer people you precisely intended to belittle in the first place. Ever heard of humility? If you choose an extreme instead of a balanced approach, dont be surprised to generate extreme answers in return.

Have you ever drove a ferarri? I'm driving an expensive luxury car (doesn't matter what exactly, but not many people can buy cars like that) daily and trust me - there IS a difference in quality of living when you can owe nice things. It does make other jealous, just like having better face, better gf, better job or whatever.. Isn't life about being able to survive as effective as possible? (these new cars are quite a lof safer to drive, btw) Well nice things mean you are doing that successfully and chances to attract more successfull people who'll help you to continue (or a sexual partner with better genes) are bigger that way, it's subsconscious I guess (unless we start analyzing). Extreme success often requires extreme risk, extreme work, extreme effort (not always of course).

Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: MAXX on October 25, 2014, 01:31:47 PM
Well if you want to go from point a to b in a ferari while you could do the same in a "normal" car, it means you re whoring for attention and shouldnt be too suprised of some kind of hate/backlash from poorer people you precisely intended to belittle in the first place. Ever heard of humility? If you choose an extreme instead of a balanced approach, dont be surprised to generate extreme answers in return.
some drive performancecars for the driving experience though.  majority probably does it for attention though
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: MikMaq on October 25, 2014, 01:32:27 PM
Of course life is intrinsically unfair and cruel; what maters is wether you have something useful for others to comensate for what you lack, in order to adapt and survive.

Lots of people try to compensate for their shortcomings by overdeveloping others aspects of their lives; this is why bullied small dumb guys inject steroids to feel confident and dominant among other males. Remove the drugs there s nothing. Better educated kids develop their brains and study to become rich and buy power.
No idea what your point is here?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: gracie bjj on October 25, 2014, 04:23:47 PM
some drive performancecars for the driving experience though.  majority probably does it for attention though

to be honest i enjoy the power and handling the muscle cars have to offer, for instance my 84 vette can handle turns just as well as a ferrari.u can find that info out any where on the net easily, im also gonna say that theres a great feeling when some hot broads pull up next to u and u r in shape driving a sweet looking muscle car,as far as attention thats at the top of the list imo
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: APE907 on October 25, 2014, 04:48:49 PM
thats cool man,i drive a 84 vette and wish i could get a new one like u did but id be hurting my son cause it would tighten up the money somewhat. im just gonna keep driving the old vette and give my son everything i can possibly give him to make him happy


You a good father.

World needs more people like you.

Would fix so many of the fcked up adults who did not get what they needed from their parents during formative years as children.

Too many adults have kids and continue with life like nothing ever changed......than wonder why the children they raised are disasters.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: gracie bjj on October 25, 2014, 05:18:21 PM

You a good father.

World needs more people like you.

Would fix so many of the fcked up adults who did not get what they needed from their parents during formative years as children.

Too adults have kids and continue with life like nothing ever changed......than wonder why the children they raised are disasters.

thanks brother i try my best, i have fallen off the wagon afew times but got right back on the wagon and started fresh.its not easy when your fighting an uphill battle everyday
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 25, 2014, 06:33:39 PM
Well if you want to go from point a to b in a ferari while you could do the same in a "normal" car, it means you re whoring for attention and shouldnt be too suprised of some kind of hate/backlash from poorer people you precisely intended to belittle in the first place. Ever heard of humility? If you choose an extreme instead of a balanced approach, dont be surprised to generate extreme answers in return.
typical poor mans answer. Talkd anout humility cause he is afraid that his wife eill leave him for a guy with a ferrariä
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on November 03, 2014, 07:37:32 AM
BAck on the Bodybuilders Stigma.

I was in NewPort RI this weekend at a shopping plaza, temp was like 38 degrees and raining ...was crowded despite the weather .....

then you have these 2 latinos bodybuilders, in black tank tops lat spreading non stop, like the guy Compton on beginning of this thread....

What I don't get is ; these two guys could b in the Men's heath cover easily, tall, handsome, Big muscles, lean ( NO HOMO) and baddsses tattoos....

So Why the insecurity ?

Needless to say everyone was looking at them like 2 clowns ....


WoooSSSHHHHHHHH SHOWING OFF
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 05, 2014, 02:35:25 AM
Have you ever drove a ferarri? I'm driving an expensive luxury car (doesn't matter what exactly, but not many people can buy cars like that) daily and trust me - there IS a difference in quality of living when you can owe nice things. It does make other jealous, just like having better face, better gf, better job or whatever.. Isn't life about being able to survive as effective as possible? (these new cars are quite a lof safer to drive, btw) Well nice things mean you are doing that successfully and chances to attract more successfull people who'll help you to continue (or a sexual partner with better genes) are bigger that way, it's subconscious I guess (unless we start analyzing). Extreme success often requires extreme risk, extreme work, extreme effort (not always of course).  NO wonder he loves his steroids, and is secure enough to come out about loving them. It's because at some point when the drugs do so damn MUCH for you to turn you from average primordial slime with a shitty haircut to fucking Hercules, you tend to develop such a strong love that you happily share it with the rest of the world. So, in a way you can say that this is one of the areas where his genetics are working for him. He has a strategic mind.



This is true... very true.

Especially agree with the part about being able to attract a sexual partner with better genes (at least in the physical sense). Look at Richard Piano.. How the fuck would someone like him land some of the hotties he does without all the gear? Without the gear, he would literally be a poor, miserable nobody and would have died as a nobody as well. But, it's not all in the gear. It's also in his ability to utilize and wield that power in ways that benefit him substantially. Not every gym rat with good genetics for size can market himself, pose, and get his physique out there to become more successful.


BAck on the Bodybuilders Stigma.

I was in NewPort RI this weekend at a shopping plaza, temp was like 38 degrees and raining ...was crowded despite the weather .....

then you have these 2 latinos bodybuilders, in black tank tops lat spreading non stop, like the guy on beginning of this thread....

What I don't get is ; these two guys could b in the Men's heath cover easily, tall, handsome, Big muscles, lean ( NO HOMO) and baddsses tattoos....

So Why the insecurity ?

Needless to say everyone was looking at them like 2 clowns ....


WoooSSSHHHHHHHH SHOWING OFF


The reason is, in their cases they either don't know how to get themselves out there properly (i.e. have the personalities of rocks), or just give off a shitty vibe. As you say, people looked at them like clowns. Chances are that if they tried to market themselves, the audience they try to reach out to will look at them in the same damn way no matter if they were online, or at an expo flexing their synthetically made arms.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: gracie bjj on November 05, 2014, 04:56:23 AM
my vettes in shop this week getting work done on it,my wife has a little rio kia and im not gonna lie,i feel lost in that car. i guess maybe i have been identifying myself with sports cars all my life that i feel lost when im not driving mine. i do realize i have alittle low self esteem among other things,if i didnt the car i drove wouldnt effect me. also the gym thing,its almost like i have to train cause im so used to people who know me and that i used to know saying(hows the lifting going man) its kinda like i feel im letting people down if i dont workout,but in reality they dont give a shit whether im training or not its just something they say to start conversation. i had a weird childhood and got pushed around alot by my guardians so i guess when i started working and had my own life i felt i had to make up for the lost time by driving sports cars and building up my body,banging women ect, i do realize it was all just a front and deep down i would of rather been home watching a movie hanging out with my dog back then. everytime id get a new broad or new sports car id have to drive around where everyone could see me,i was trying to hard to say (hey look at me,i made it)all along i was just a lonely person. it wasnt until my son was born 8 yrs ago that i realized what life was really about, id give up everything just to hang out with my son and see him succeed in life and be happy
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 05, 2014, 05:02:39 AM
my vettes in shop this week getting work done on it,my wife has a little rio kia and im not gonna lie,i feel lost in that car. i guess maybe i have been identifying myself with sports cars all my life that i feel lost when im not driving mine. i do realize i have alittle low self esteem among other things,if i didnt the car i drove wouldnt effect me. also the gym thing,its almost like i have to train cause im so used to people who know me and that i used to know saying(hows the lifting going man) its kinda like i feel im letting people down if i dont workout,but in reality they dont give a shit whether im training or not its just something they say to start conversation. i had a weird childhood and got pushed around alot by my guardians so i guess when i started working and had my own life i felt i had to make up for the lost time by driving sports cars and building up my body,banging women ect, i do realize it was all just a front and deep down i would of rather been home watching a movie hanging out with my dog back then. everytime id get a new broad or new sports car id have to drive around where everyone could see me,i was trying to hard to say (hey look at me,i made it)all along i was just a lonely person. it wasnt until my son was born 8 yrs ago that i realized what life was really about, id give up everything just to hang out with my son and see him succeed in life and be happy


That's the reality for every bodybuilder in the industry today. Doesn't even matter if you're natural or enhanced, but it's a lot worse if you're enhanced because once you lose that muscle, you literally lose everything along with it...

There are some legitimate friends in the industry, but it's inherently shallow. No one really cares if your mother died or something. There are no friends if there's no muscle involved... Never seen it happen before.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: gracie bjj on November 05, 2014, 05:11:58 AM

That's the reality for every bodybuilder in the industry today. Doesn't even matter if you're natural or enhanced, but it's a lot worse if you're enhanced because once you lose that muscle, you literally lose everything along with it...

There are some legitimate friends in the industry, but it's inherently shallow. No one really cares if your mother died or something. There are no friends if there's no muscle involved... Never seen it happen before.

very true words u just wrote, its a cold world out there and i always say if a person has 1 or 2 really good freinds in life hes a lucky person,in the end thats all there is,family and close freinds,everyone else wasnt really there for us unless we had something to offer in return,families love is unconditional though
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 05, 2014, 05:18:28 AM
very true words u just wrote, its a cold world out there and i always say if a person has 1 or 2 really good freinds in life hes a lucky person,in the end thats all there is,family and close freinds,everyone else wasnt really there for us unless we had something to offer in return,families love is unconditional though

At a certain stage in life, this reality kicks in for everyone. generally it kicks in in the early 20s. But by the late 20s, everyone goes their separate ways and only make associates rather than friends. Relationships are formed and partners chosen based on potential for personal success.

It's easy to see how a bodybuilder could become completely consumed by the whole thing, because without bodybuilding, many have no purpose or reason to live. That's why many don't care if they die.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: MAXX on November 05, 2014, 05:25:01 AM
to be honest i enjoy the power and handling the muscle cars have to offer, for instance my 84 vette can handle turns just as well as a ferrari.u can find that info out any where on the net easily, im also gonna say that theres a great feeling when some hot broads pull up next to u and u r in shape driving a sweet looking muscle car,as far as attention thats at the top of the list imo
lol

no.... just no
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Voice of Doom on November 05, 2014, 08:38:04 AM
I tell bodybuilders the same thing I tell fat people.  Look as ridiculous as you want as long as I don't have to pay your medical bills.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on November 26, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
... And more on the bodybuilders stigma ;







WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH BeyE kE
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: forillagorilla on November 26, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
most people just shift their focus toward smarter, more natural endeavours like studies, careers... doing so they re as obsessive as bodybuilders. It all depends of your upbringings, education, environment.

And then there is you... Spending most of your day on a board dedicated to stupid bodybuilders - where you post and post about how you don't care that you have no muscle cause you don't want muscles and don't even like them.. You do this as a service cause as you said you see right through the be!!  LOL

WOOOOSSSHHHH.   
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Earl1972 on November 26, 2014, 04:35:14 PM
... And more on the bodybuilders stigma ;







WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH BeyE kE


at least he admits to being jealous

E
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: old-school-lifter on November 26, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
BB's have mental illness of body dysmorphism which leads to drug (steroid) addiction

to each their own, everyone makes their own choices

just don't use steroids then lie and say youre natural
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2014, 06:47:59 AM
Drugged oiled up men posing in thongs to music for cheering men.  Then the overwhelming majority deny drug use to everyone that asks. Their little boy insecure egos are crying for praise that they are a man doesn't want to admit they look like crap without drugs. They want the praise to be directed to them and not the syringe.

I belong to other athletic boards like a running board and football. Bodybuilding fans are by far the strangest outside the norm individuals.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Earl1972 on November 27, 2014, 01:33:58 PM
Drugged oiled up men posing in thongs to music for cheering men.  Then the overwhelming majority deny drug use to everyone that asks. Their little boy insecure egos are crying for praise that they are a man doesn't want to admit they look like crap without drugs. They want the praise to be directed to them and not the syringe.

I belong to other athletic boards like a running board and football. Bodybuilding fans are by far the strangest outside the norm individuals.

the crowd for all sports is mostly cheering men aside from the garbage you would see in the olympics

they also deny drug use if asked, they would be worse without their drugs, they all want praise and will never admit their success came from drugs

bodybuilding fans are not the most strange, they are the most self loathing

E
Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Howard on November 27, 2014, 04:06:58 PM
I watched the vid but holy shit overanalysing this. U clearly have a hard on for this dude  :D

He was a good sport to do some impromptu posing.
I liked how he kept his cell phone tucked into his waistband the entire time  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 07, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
BB's have mental illness of body dysmorphism which leads to drug (steroid) addiction

to each their own, everyone makes their own choices

just don't use steroids then lie and say youre natural

I know a guy who looks ready to go on stage all year long , 230 lbs shredded ...... Then when he gets off the juice (very rarely) he would go to the gym around midnight to avoid people watch  him smaller ......

Talk about insecurity.



Wooosshhhhhh
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 12, 2015, 07:47:36 AM
BB's have mental illness of body dysmorphism which leads to drug (steroid) addiction

to each their own, everyone makes their own choices

just don't use steroids then lie and say youre natural

Just saw this huge guy watching the Patriots game yesterday and bragging about how natural he is and people accuse him of being on roids because they (humanity) can't accept the fact that he is genetically gifted.
 
1- I doubt people "accuse" him on being on steroids ...he is not ARod (most bodybuilders think the world cares if theyre on the juice)

2- OK, Don't admit you're on steroids but don't brag about you're natural 24/7 either, leave it alone .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH   well earned stigma
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 19, 2015, 04:47:01 AM
Drugged oiled up men posing in thongs to music for cheering men.  Then the overwhelming majority deny drug use to everyone that asks. Their little boy insecure egos are crying for praise that they are a man doesn't want to admit they look like crap without drugs. They want the praise to be directed to them and not the syringe.

I belong to other athletic boards like a running board and football. Bodybuilding fans are by far the strangest outside the norm individuals.


Bodybuilders of the 70's weren't perceived as inmature weirdos as the ones today .

Maybe is the internet that has revealed the true colors of bodybuilding


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: muscularny on March 19, 2015, 05:24:32 AM
dime a dozen of guys in these days that look semi pro walking around in NYC / LA, some act normal some don't just like the rest of the planet. One thing is certain thou, in nightclubs being built will get girls walking up to you,
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: TheShape. on March 19, 2015, 08:09:51 AM
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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: hipolito mejia on March 19, 2015, 11:48:33 AM
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FTW .
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 19, 2015, 04:13:46 PM

FTW .

Shut your ugly face
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 26, 2015, 11:03:20 AM
 ;D




(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=570998.0;attach=613181;image)



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH   Frank Zane will be like " what's with the insecurity with these guys ?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 26, 2015, 11:11:36 AM
;D




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WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH    Frank Zane will be like " whats with the insecurity ?

Frank "Zen" is prob the kind of person that addresses the ego needs, and -IMO- he would be right.
A sweet ride nonetheless..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Thong Maniac on April 26, 2015, 11:33:53 AM
Was Aaron in 'Nam? He was wearin his dog tags. Wonder if he does that now so he can be identifed when he dies from waging war in the gym? He gets my respect, charlie could take him out at any moment when he steps into the posing room in his thong. Just imagin his platinum studded camo thong as he goes on patrol for VC enemy camps, and how it glistens in the moon light, sweat dripping down his ass. I mean just imagine your charlie, and this man stud covered in pro-tan,  crawls into your tunnel and u are face to face with him. He lets out a toxic protein/tren fart and there is no escape. Dude can clear a tunnel of enemy troops faster than a napalm assault. The bravery this man shows will go down in the history books. My kids will read about this american hero, who saved countless lives waging jungle warfare against enemies of this nation. AC we salute you
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: cephissus on April 26, 2015, 12:07:27 PM
Didn't read thread, but 'bodybuilders' are perceived as stupid because they are unable to distinguish strength from sickness, and pursue the appearance of strength at all costs.  In the end, they become weak individuals, broadly speaking.  Of course there are exceptions.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 26, 2015, 04:28:15 PM
Didn't read thread, but 'bodybuilders' are perceived as stupid because they are unable to distinguish strength from sickness, and pursue the appearance of strength at all costs.  In the end, they become weak individuals, broadly speaking.  Of course there are exceptions.


Society knows that it takes hard work to be muscular but the attitude of most Bodybuilders the epic insecurity and narcissistic behavior non stop, fucks the whole thing up.




WooOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH   
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 27, 2015, 12:18:40 AM

Society knows that it takes hard work to be muscular but the attitude of most Bodybuilders the epic insecurity and narcissistic behavior non stop, fucks the whole thing up.




WooOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH   

You see this in all walks of life..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 08, 2015, 01:40:57 PM
Now the new Trend to keep the bodybuilding stigma going is on Facebook


I have probably 15 bodybuilders "friends" posting clips at the gym or pictures followed by a Biblical Phrase "Psalm".

Humble bragging ?

Doing a must muscular sticking tongue out with baseball cap sideways  then a Religious remark next to it ........WTF?



Anyone has seen things like this ?





WooOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH  T HE  STIGMA
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 23, 2015, 12:11:17 PM
Two questions :

1- Why do bodybuilders have to dress like this ?

2- Would you take family and friends to a Bodybuilding expo ?





WoooSSHHH  THE STIGMA
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: SF1900 on July 23, 2015, 12:13:22 PM
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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 30, 2015, 12:58:45 PM
Is this attitude and behavior really necessary to do a routine of exercises at the gym ?



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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2015, 02:44:02 PM
Is this attitude and behavior really necessary to do a routine of exercises at the gym ?

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Doesn't matter, they're just having fun
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 30, 2015, 04:43:01 PM
Doesn't matter, they're just having fun


oh nice



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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 04, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
Just watched 'TrainWreck" (heavily advertised)  knowing that Lebron and Cena both have roles in this film was curious to see what was about  ....

John Cena plays the role of a bodybuilder (More to the stigma) who happens to be the boyfriend of this annoying chick ...


1- She goes to say having sex with him is like "having sex with an ice sculpture" ( which is fine )

2- In a scene,  while having sex she asks him to say dirty stuff to get her going and all he can say is energy drink/diet/protein related stuff..

3- He fails miserably at turning the girl on but when he talks about another man's ass;  he cums!!.

4-Another scene John Cena tries to pick a fight at the teather with a guy and tells him to find him in some app , to what his girlfriend says 'hey that's a gay app"

the nail on the coffin to burry the image of bodybuilders ..

In general, The movie is crap but many people have watched it .....the way bodybuilders are perceived as closeted gays is strong in this film .




(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3944448/john-cena-sex-3.0.png)


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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Alfurinn on January 04, 2016, 08:44:07 PM
Bodybuilders are exhibitionists. There's no point in building a muscular body if you are going to hide them under your clothes. Probably, the attention received when having big muscles becomes somehow addictive after a time, it compensates for self-perceived physical flaws that usually are the triggering factor to start bodybuilding.

But even that is not as bad as glorifying aggression as a sign of "masculinity".





Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 05, 2016, 07:17:21 AM
Just watched 'TrainWreck" (heavily advertised)  knowing that Lebron and Cena both have roles in this film was curious to see what was about  ....

John Cena plays the role of a bodybuilder (More to the stigma) who happens to be the boyfriend of this annoying chick ...


1- She goes to say having sex with him is like "having sex with an ice sculpture" ( which is fine )

2- In a scene,  while having sex she asks him to say dirty stuff to get her going and all he can say is energy drink/diet/protein related stuff..

3- He fails miserably at turning the girl on but when he talks about another man's ass;  he cums!!.

4-Another scene John Cena tries to pick a fight at the teather with a guy and tells him to find him in some app , to what his girlfriend says 'hey that's a gay app"

the nail on the coffin to burry the image of bodybuilders ..

In general, The movie is crap but many people have watched it .....the way bodybuilders are perceived as closeted gays is strong in this film .




(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3944448/john-cena-sex-3.0.png)


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There's a scene that John Cena is completely naked with a towel hanging of his cock.
I'm sure all the schmoes are running to go rent it or even buy the movie.

What I have learned from the industry is that Most Bodybuilders are bisexual...they're always the last to realize it though.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 05, 2016, 11:49:27 AM
There's a scene that John Cena is completely naked with a towel hanging of his cock.
I'm sure all the schmoes are running to go rent it or even buy the movie.

What I have learned from the industry is that Most Bodybuilders are bisexual...they're always the last to realize it though.

Only in your perfect world..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Skeletor on January 05, 2016, 12:55:37 PM
There's a scene that John Cena is completely naked with a towel hanging of his cock.
I'm running on all fours to go rent it or even buy the movie.

What I have learned from the industry is that Most Bodybuilders are bisexual...they're always the last to realize it though.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 05, 2016, 06:26:33 PM
This image from the movie  ruins everything that Joe Weider did to promote the idea  about being a bodybuilder and having blondies running after you at the beach .


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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2016, 01:12:57 PM
Weider made the idea of being a bodybuilder rather appealing ... those days are long gone though


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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 13, 2016, 01:32:27 PM
Weider made the idea of being a bodybuilder rather appealing ... those days are long gone though


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So it's all good when Ahnuld is involved? Double standard of peace..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2016, 01:42:31 PM
So it's all good when Ahnuld is involved? Double standard of peace..
tell the truth..you love tight Buttocks
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
So it's all good when Ahnuld is involved? Double standard of peace..

Not double standards ... look at the way bodybuilders are perceived by society now vs 25 years ago....

With Arnold Zane the Blonde Bomber etc you had a promoted image that being muscular was the ideal by the average joe....that kept on going up until the Haney/Labrada years ....

Not I don't mean the size of todays bodybuilders  either ....Its all about the stigma (If you have read the thread from beginning)

Today with social media and pro bodybuilders behavior in general not many people want to be dealing/dating/interacting with a "meat head"  let alone being one .



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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2016, 06:23:57 PM
So it's all good when Ahnuld is involved? Double standard of peace..

Its not really a double standard at all, since bodybuilders in the 70's had a MUCH different looking than bodybuilders of the 21st century.

Which one are most women going to find more attractive?

(http://repscience.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/frank-zane-young.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/2832/6395/d/img_06451210462566.jpg)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2016, 06:36:43 PM




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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 14, 2016, 12:01:20 AM
Not double standards ... look at the way bodybuilders are perceived by society now vs 25 years ago....

With Arnold Zane the Blonde Bomber etc you had a promoted image that being muscular was the ideal by the average joe....that kept on going up until the Haney/Labrada years ....

Not I don't mean the size of todays bodybuilders  either ....Its all about the stigma (If you have read the thread from beginning)

Today with social media and pro bodybuilders behavior in general not many people want to be dealing/dating/interacting with a "meat head"  let alone being one .



WoooSHHHHHHH

I see two things in this perceiving thing; the way traditional/social media portraits them and how someone presents himself. Things have changes for sure during the years, but the are numerous anecdotes about Arnold's bad behavior against women and other bodybuilders, like Robby Robinson for example.

When it comes to the current generation, a few weeks back we had Cedric Mcmillan who behaved like a class act by taking the time for everyone.

You will always have guys who present themselves badly, which has nothing to do with the era they're living in. The media is a different story tho, they're way more judgemental.

Its not really a double standard at all, since bodybuilders in the 70's had a MUCH different looking than bodybuilders of the 21st century.

Which one are most women going to find more attractive?

I was addressing their behavior, not their looks.

BTW, training to please the women is something for insecure freshmans.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 14, 2016, 06:13:05 AM


I was addressing their behavior, not their looks.

BTW, training to please the women is something for insecure freshmans.



So is driving a nice car, or wearing expensive clothes .....thing is cars and clothes are still desirable while being a bodybuilder has become a joke .


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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 14, 2016, 06:51:42 AM

So is driving a nice car, or wearing expensive clothes .....thing is cars and clothes are still desirable while being a bodybuilder has become a joke .


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Why do you care so much about other people's opinions? I believe it's better to be true to yourself, no matter what others think.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Yamcha on January 14, 2016, 06:54:03 AM
Why do you care so much about other people's opinions? I believe it's better to be true to yourself, no matter what others think.

x2

come out the closet, brah
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: irishdave on January 14, 2016, 08:01:54 AM
would ANYBODY actually wanna look like these midget losers? They'd gas after 20 seconds on the heavy bag and have a stroke
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Brass Balls on January 14, 2016, 08:27:23 AM
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t442/FleetwoodJoe/ir6hvm_zps1sqlzt3i.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/FleetwoodJoe/media/ir6hvm_zps1sqlzt3i.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: SF1900 on January 14, 2016, 08:31:51 AM
I see two things in this perceiving thing; the way traditional/social media portraits them and how someone presents himself. Things have changes for sure during the years, but the are numerous anecdotes about Arnold's bad behavior against women and other bodybuilders, like Robby Robinson for example.

When it comes to the current generation, a few weeks back we had Cedric Mcmillan who behaved like a class act by taking the time for everyone.

You will always have guys who present themselves badly, which has nothing to do with the era they're living in. The media is a different story tho, they're way more judgemental.

I was addressing their behavior, not their looks.

BTW, training to please the women is something for insecure freshmans.


lol. Yeah, that is pretty much false from an evolutionary standpoint.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Brass Balls on January 14, 2016, 08:35:31 AM
lol. Yeah, that is pretty much false from an evolutionary standpoint.

Correct. Now it's more important to be financially attractive vs. physically attractive.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: njflex on January 14, 2016, 08:36:59 AM
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t442/FleetwoodJoe/ir6hvm_zps1sqlzt3i.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/FleetwoodJoe/media/ir6hvm_zps1sqlzt3i.jpg.html)
ballerina of peace...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 14, 2016, 11:56:38 AM
Correct. Now it's more important to be financially attractive vs. physically attractive.

6-figure bank account > 6-pack
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: bigmikecox on January 14, 2016, 12:12:21 PM
Ok, this clip has two bodybuilders big and ripped, exactly the way  "meat heads" are perceived ,

The sigma of BB, not matter how swollen still selfish, (attention whoring) and insecure .

1- The first bb, (short dude) when asked to take his shirt off,  he does not hesitate, with a FINALLY ! expression on his face (which is fine with me on a bodybuilding expo) sad thing is that girls around won't give a F"

2- The best part is his fellow BB, the one with the grey shirt on (even bigger and swollen)  instead of getting out of the way so the other guy flexes for the cam, he tries at all cost to remain in the way, spreading them lats like he was caring out two buckets of water ...then when he does not know what to do, he leans on the counter right behind the guy flexing and spreads his lats like if Dorian was watching him. LOL

3- Then,  the shirtless bodybuilder decides to move to another area to pose "freely" but there's this kid right next to him looking at him like a dad to his son "why couldn't he pick football or baseball" expression on his face.

Enjoy :





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He is at the Expo WORKING!!!  Ive been to the Arnold Expo and Cormier was stripped down posing. Its part of the EXPO!!!!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 20, 2016, 01:22:13 PM
Social media its giving meat heads the image of dumb ego insecure irritating group  like never before ...   or is it well earned ?

People cant just take BB seriously (If they ever did ) thanks to Facebook,IG and Twitter. Between the relentless weird-tongue out faces while hitting most muscular pose and the cheesy inspirational quotes...

Now if you have  friends on social media related to the "fitness industry" it seems like if they post a picture shirtless with a religious or inspirational quote It'll turn them automatically in to a  "spiritual badass"  WRONG..... most people laugh at this silly behavior and pathetic crying for attention attempt ,and  any criticism will make you a hater .....


Obsession with looks is vanity . and narcissistic people can't stop posting pics ,  People who are obsessed with the  "muscular body and this is what I eat  idea " are usually already dealing with self image problems.... that's why you see all this 40 plus year old  BBers acting like teenagers,  a male trying to look sexy or hot on social media is way more pathetic than a girl no matter how "athletic you want to see it "


Lets make bodybuilding an inside of the dungeon activity again .



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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 21, 2016, 07:50:30 AM

He is at the Expo WORKING!!!  Ive been to the Arnold Expo and Cormier was stripped down posing. Its part of the EXPO!!!!


LOL WORKING  Great guy Aaron Clark that's not exactly working or conducting himself in an interesting manner .


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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: local hero on July 21, 2016, 08:00:28 AM
Not double standards ... look at the way bodybuilders are perceived by society now vs 25 years ago....

With Arnold Zane the Blonde Bomber etc you had a promoted image that being muscular was the ideal by the average joe....that kept on going up until the Haney/Labrada years ....

Not I don't mean the size of todays bodybuilders  either ....Its all about the stigma (If you have read the thread from beginning)

Today with social media and pro bodybuilders behavior in general not many people want to be dealing/dating/interacting with a "meat head"  let alone being one .



WoooSHHHHHHH


The main reason its looked down upon is because the cat is out the bag with steroids, big jacked dude=steroids and the average man/woman on the street knows this...


Years ago t wasn't really common knowledge..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 28, 2016, 07:34:23 AM

The main reason its looked down upon is because the cat is out the bag with steroids, big jacked dude=steroids and the average man/woman on the street knows this...


Years ago t wasn't really common knowledge..

Valid point .


Woooshhhhh
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 28, 2016, 07:40:59 AM
The combination of douchebaggery with  muscles has reached new levels in this embarrassing  "sport" Industry...  Society can't tell from a pro bber and these popular Youtubers/ bloggers ...






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Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Spike on July 28, 2016, 09:26:27 AM
At least they're smart enough by not wasting money on test 'boosters'.


This ^^

Blackstone snake testes oil
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 29, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
Also today's bodybuilders are on YouTube showing headphones ,cars, pets etc  rather than muscles, how can a road to the O  video have a pro Bodybuilder working out with  sweater , baggy clothes and a hoodie on ? they can't talk about what they really used to get so muscular and they cant show their muscles either while they train ?



WoooSHHHHHH Now, that's what I call posing "


Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: TheShape. on August 29, 2016, 03:47:28 PM
^^^
Today's bodybuilders are boring, ugly, and uncharismatic. No wonder all these people prefer physique.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 16, 2017, 06:12:18 AM
I spoke with a sport doctor who was doing an interview on spanish radio ....

He has treated athletes from every sports "activities" and also bodybuilders

 I spoke with him for about 15 mins (off air) he says Most bodybuilders both men and women often confuse dedication with obsession

when he tells a Bodybuilder his blood work has shown weakness in kidneys they simply ignore the warnings or lie about what they're taking .

And that includes bodybuilders with college degrees, coming from healthy family backgrounds etc .


Sad to say the least .



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Title: Re: Bodybuilders Stigma - Why Meatheads are perceived this way
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 28, 2018, 06:51:07 AM
^^^
Today's bodybuilders are boring, ugly, and uncharismatic. No wonder all these people prefer physique.



(https://instagram.farn1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/vp/85653ebd0187ab88555d5736662f7534/5CD6AD9A/t51.2885-15/e35/42984037_1569441746489710_5625200855849473944_n.jpg?_nc_ht=instagram.farn1-1.fna.fbcdn.net)



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Title: Re: Bodybuilders stigma
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 28, 2018, 06:55:58 AM
The huge guy in he gray shirt is the next great thing in BB, Justin Compton.


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