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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NaturalWonder83 on November 15, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
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So I ended up getting to try pj brauns new intra workout powder
I luckily did not have to buy it myself ..a friend got it for me as a gift.
I will post my review on it on Monday on here but from what I can tell you is that my friend was annoyed that the shipping took forever. Not a good start.
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Let us know if you died for us bitches.
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Why would anyone pay $35 for this shit (or any other "supplement")?
Blackstone "Angel Dust" ::)
(https://www.bestpricenutrition.com/media/wysiwyg/blackstone_labs_angel_dust_ingredients.jpg)
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Why would anyone pay $35 for this shit (or any other "supplement")?
Blackstone "Angel Dust" ::)
(https://www.bestpricenutrition.com/media/wysiwyg/blackstone_labs_angel_dust_ingredients.jpg)
"Proprietary blend" oh brother. Cheesy as fuck
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Why would anyone pay $35 for this shit (or any other "supplement")?
Blackstone "Angel Dust" ::)
(https://www.bestpricenutrition.com/media/wysiwyg/blackstone_labs_angel_dust_ingredients.jpg)
That's not their Intra formula. The Intra formula is endorsed by John Meadows, which, in my opinion, shoots Blackstone Labs to the top of this list regarding quality of supplements. John doesn't just endorse anybody. So Blackstone ( again, in MY opinion ) gets two thumbs up from me. And am very excited to try it when I receive the product.
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Fart powder of peace.
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That's not their Intra formula. The Intra formula is endorsed by John Meadows, which, in my opinion, shoots Blackstone Labs to the top of this list regarding quality of supplements. John doesn't just endorse anybody. So Blackstone ( again, in MY opinion ) gets two thumbs up from me. And am very excited to try it when I receive the product.
Unfortunately he endorsed the Biotest range though :-\
I'm a huge fan of his training methods but am very stand offish with regards to him endorsing supplements because of his former
association with the above.
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Unfortunately he endorsed the Biotest range though :-\
I'm a huge fan of his training methods but am very stand offish with regards to him endorsing supplements because of his former
association with the above.
Well, my friend, I like Biotest. Use to use them a lot back in the day. And Biotest and T-Nation kinda go hand in hand together. Can't really blame John for endorsing them, to be honest. Would kinda be silly for him not to. Just sayin. :/
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Well, my friend, I like Biotest. Use to use them a lot back in the day. And Biotest and T-Nation kinda go hand in hand together. Can't really blame John for endorsing them, to be honest. Would kinda be silly for him not to. Just sayin. :/
I think when TC and Tim started Biotest it was a solid company with solid products - when TC wrote for
MM2K he was honest but now he has become everything he despised in the supplement industry.
T - Nation has some interesting and great writing on it, from training to good shit like this ;D
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/the_thailand_trilogy_part_i (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/the_thailand_trilogy_part_i)
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That's not their Intra formula. The Intra formula is endorsed by John Meadows, which, in my opinion, shoots Blackstone Labs to the top of this list regarding quality of supplements. John doesn't just endorse anybody. So Blackstone ( again, in MY opinion ) gets two thumbs up from me. And am very excited to try it when I receive the product.
My opinion is that an Intra powder made with whey isolate and cheap sugar would provide indistinguishable results from these expensive amino/peptide carb formulas. There was supposed to be some magic provided by casein hydrosylate in the Biotest product or Peptopro. But now EAAs are just as good apparently... providing soreness free training sessions lol. The EAA instead of the hydro was most likely due to cost - profit margins too low.
If you read promuscle for example there's always some new magic supplement that is all forgotten later on. Who is using the ALRI magic aminos still?
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My opinion is that an Intra powder made with whey isolate and cheap sugar would provide indistinguishable results from these expensive amino/peptide carb formulas. There was supposed to be some magic provided by casein hydrosylate in the Biotest product or Peptopro. But now EAAs are just as good apparently... providing soreness free training sessions lol. The EAA instead of the hydro was most likely due to cost - profit margins too low.
If you read promuscle for example there's always some new magic supplement that is all forgotten later on. Who is using the ALRI magic aminos still?
The aminos were designed for humans, most aminos are designed for non-humans.
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I think when TC and Tim started Biotest it was a solid company with solid products - when TC wrote for
MM2K he was honest but now he has become everything he despised in the supplement industry.
T - Nation has some interesting and great writing on it, from training to good shit like this ;D
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/the_thailand_trilogy_part_i (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/the_thailand_trilogy_part_i)
Good post. Agreed.
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If you read promuscle for example there's always some new magic supplement that is all forgotten later on. Who is using the ALRI magic aminos still?
That's a very good point. PM seems to always be promoting something. Except good posts. Lol. In my opinion, anyways. :D
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So I ended up getting to try pj brauns new intra workout powder
I luckily did not have to buy it myself ..a friend got it for me as a gift.
I will post my review on it on Monday on here but from what I can tell you is that my friend was annoyed that the shipping took forever. Not a good start.
shut up you simpleton.
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shut up you simpleton.
you shut up gearbox
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Prop Blends huh? its probably like 3g of creatine mono and 4.4g of taurine, and 100mg total of the rest
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Pissening
It sick
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Just buy Peptopro and highly branched cyclic dextrin for intraworkout shake. Throw 5-10g of creatine in there as well. The one and most important thing that needs to be used to make it work though....Preworkout insulin, preferably Humalog. Don't bother with it unless you're gonna use slin preworkout. With preworkout slin and GH the results are phenomenal.
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Just buy Peptopro and highly branched cyclic dextrin for intraworkout shake. Throw 5-10g of creatine in there as well. The one and most important thing that needs to be used to make it work though....Preworkout insulin, preferably Humalog. Don't bother with it unless you're gonna use slin preworkout. With preworkout slin and GH the results are phenomenal.
Although I'm a big fan of PJ, john meadows, and BSL/Prime, I have to say this post absolute hits the nail on the head.
Nothing more needs said.
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Why would anyone pay $35 for this shit (or any other "supplement")?
Blackstone "Angel Dust" ::)
(https://www.bestpricenutrition.com/media/wysiwyg/blackstone_labs_angel_dust_ingredients.jpg)
Green Tea "Extrac". "Caffiene". Jesus, they released the product with those errors on the label?
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Just buy Peptopro and highly branched cyclic dextrin for intraworkout shake. Throw 5-10g of creatine in there as well. The one and most important thing that needs to be used to make it work though....Preworkout insulin, preferably Humalog. Don't bother with it unless you're gonna use slin preworkout. With preworkout slin and GH the results are phenomenal.
why is pepto pro needed if slin is taken? Everything goes to the muscle anyway. I really like to use gatorade, 20 grams bcaa, 5ish creatine and glutamine (newly added). This works big time and do you think (asking seriously, not being a smart ass( if I replaced what I use with pepto pro, I would see a real life change/difference?) I tried that special super carb that costs more than actual protein powder and saw no difference and it tasted real bad (gaspari carb powder, glycofuse I think...) so the missing ingredient must be the protein source in pepto pro to super charge it? If it's just that, to answer my own question, I'd say no.
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peptopro + maltodextrin would be much cheaper and as effective than the meadow formula
peptopro tastes horrible tho
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So I ended up getting to try pj brauns new intra workout powder
I luckily did not have to buy it myself ..a friend got it for me as a gift.
I will post my review on it on Monday on here but from what I can tell you is that my friend was annoyed that the shipping took forever. Not a good start.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w41rj9Or92E/hqdefault.jpg)
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Gene it's past Monday. Have you had a reaction? Are you ok?
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My opinion is that an Intra powder made with whey isolate and cheap sugar would provide indistinguishable results from these expensive amino/peptide carb formulas. There was supposed to be some magic provided by casein hydrosylate in the Biotest product or Peptopro. But now EAAs are just as good apparently... providing soreness free training sessions lol. The EAA instead of the hydro was most likely due to cost - profit margins too low.
You are correct, the EAA's were put there for cost cutting and on top of that they are missing some of the EAA's like histidine which happens to be the most expensive one. They are cutting corners in order to make more profit.
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Calling your product angel dust shows poor judgement.
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Calling your product angel dust shows poor judgement.
It shows there is no creativity in their marketing, they took the easy route "hey let's name it after a street drug"
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It shows there is no creativity in their marketing, they took the easy route "hey let's name it after a street drug"
Still it contributes to this culture of glorification of promiscuous sex, drugs, and violence.
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There is nothing quite like original marketing ;D
(http://www.spinxrunfest.com/spinx/SRF_Welcome_2_files/MB_best_or_nothing_WEB.gif)
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peptopro + maltodextrin would be much cheaper and as effective than the meadow formula
peptopro tastes horrible tho
This is not accurate.
GI clearance time is nothing close to HBCD.
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Calling your product angel dust shows poor judgement.
I still have never understood this argument. Are you babies really offended by that? Wow, we live in such a pussified society it's unbelievable.
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I still have never understood this argument. Are you babies really offended by that? Wow, we live in such a pussified society it's unbelievable.
(http://www.troll.me/images/mrmackey/drugs-are-bad-mmkay.jpg)
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I still have never understood this argument. Are you babies really offended by that? Wow, we live in such a pussified society it's unbelievable.
There is a difference between being offended and stating that someone used poor judgment related to a business venture.
I dont think any person on getbig is offended by the term "angel dust." However, from a business POV, calling a product angel dust may not be the best decision. Do you really think any company, especially the multi billion dollar companies, would call any of their products a drug related name?
Not to mention if you want teenagers to buy your products, naming a supplement after a drug may make some parents whose teenagers are buying the supplement, pissed off. And may prevent their teenager from buying the product.
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There is a difference between being offended and stating that someone used poor judgment related to a business venture.
I dont think any person on getbig is offended by the term "angel dust." However, from a business POV, calling a product angel dust may not be the best decision. Do you really think any company, especially the multi billion dollar companies, would call any of their products a drug related name?
Not to mention if you want teenagers to buy your products, naming a supplement after a drug may make some parents whose teenagers are buying the supplement, pissed off. And may prevent their teenager from buying the product.
Exactly. I raised this point about this product previously. It certainly implies a negative connotation by calling it that. Using an adjective would have been better.
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Angel Dust is our best selling product. Many thousands a week. Every store we have that carries it says it gets more attention, and then purchases, than any similar other product. If the name and the label get us a shot to prove the product is good, I don't see how anyone could say that was a mistake.
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Exactly. I raised this point about this product previously. It certainly implies a negative connotation by calling it that. Using an adjective would have been better.
Agreed. But according to PJ, its their best selling product. I wonder what is the demographic of people buying the supplement.
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Angel Dust is our best selling product. Many thousands a week. Every store we have that carries it says it gets more attention, and then purchases, than any similar other product. If the name and the label get us a shot to prove the product is good, I don't see how anyone could say that was a mistake.
ive tried it
I feel it's very weak compared to Hyde geeked or esp
Decent product but def on the low stim category
I will be posting my review for the intra powder later today
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ive tried it
I feel it's very weak compared to Hyde geeked or esp
Decent product but def on the low stim category
I will be posting my review for the intra powder later today
Haha. I have a feeling the review isn't going to be very good.
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Haha. I have a feeling the review isn't going to be very good.
pj!!!!! Can u make A pre workout that doesn't give u stim dick
Is very high in caffeine
Puts u in an aggressive mood
And no crash after
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There is a difference between being offended and stating that someone used poor judgment related to a business venture.
I dont think any person on getbig is offended by the term "angel dust." However, from a business POV, calling a product angel dust may not be the best decision. Do you really think any company, especially the multi billion dollar companies, would call any of their products a drug related name?
Not to mention if you want teenagers to buy your products, naming a supplement after a drug may make some parents whose teenagers are buying the supplement, pissed off. And may prevent their teenager from buying the product.
Do you have any clue how much money they are making from it? Clearly it was an excellent business decision to name it what they did. Hell they could even name it "WHITE POWER: the one and only PreWorkout for white people" and it would sell just as well. You guys obviously don't understand the supp biz.
This is pointless though to argue with any of the cry babies who are offended this easily over a silly name. What an odd way for a man to go through life being scared and offended this easily
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Do you have any clue how much money they are making from it? Clearly it was an excellent business decision to name it what they did. Hell they could even name it "WHITE POWER: the one and only PreWorkout for white people" and it would sell just as well. You guys obviously don't understand the supp biz.
This is pointless though to argue with any of the cry babies who are offended this easily over a silly name. What an odd way for a man to go through life being scared and offended this easily
Did you miss the point where I said I was not offended. Nowhere did i indicate that I was offended or crying about it. I was clearly speaking from a business venture. That it MAY be an issue. Obviously, you have comprehension issues. :-\ :-\
And PJ stated that he is making a lot of money off of his product, so clearly it is not impacting his business venture. Clearly, I was wrong.
So what are you continuing to bitch and moan about?
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Do you have any clue how much money they are making from it? Clearly it was an excellent business decision to name it what they did. Hell they could even name it "WHITE POWER: the one and only PreWorkout for white people" and it would sell just as well. You guys obviously don't understand the supp biz.
This is pointless though to argue with any of the cry babies who are offended this easily over a silly name. What an odd way for a man to go through life being scared and offended this easily
Edward Bernays would call you full of shit and would sit down with PJ and Aaron and explain to them how they could dramatically increase their sales with a simple name change and alternate marketing.
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Do you have any clue how much money they are making from it? Clearly it was an excellent business decision to name it what they did. Hell they could even name it "WHITE POWER: the one and only PreWorkout for white people" and it would sell just as well. You guys obviously don't understand the supp biz.
This is pointless though to argue with any of the cry babies who are offended this easily over a silly name. What an odd way for a man to go through life being scared and offended this easily
It's quite the poor business decision, of course a simpleton like you would look at the shock value of the name and that it gets some sales but you do not consider the big picture.
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PJ and Aaron may want to give this a watch, especially part 2-The Engineering of Consent and part 1-Happiness Machines:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/
Everyone should watch all of the parts for that matter.
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peptopro + maltodextrin would be much cheaper and as effective than the meadow formula
peptopro tastes horrible tho
Malto? think you mean dextrose, no?
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Did you miss the point where I said I was not offended. Nowhere did i indicate that I was offended or crying about it. I was clearly speaking from a business venture. That it MAY be an issue. Obviously, you have comprehension issues. :-\ :-\
And PJ stated that he is making a lot of money off of his product, so clearly it is not impacting his business venture. Clearly, I was wrong.
So what are you continuing to bitch and moan about?
Are you upset with me ???
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I used to take this one but the doctor asked me to stop :-\
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You are correct, the EAA's were put there for cost cutting and on top of that they are missing some of the EAA's like histidine which happens to be the most expensive one. They are cutting corners in order to make more profit.
LOL really? I guess some essential aminos aren't that essential. These guys sound real jokers to me. Though I bet they have a lot of guys swearing this product leads to soreness free mountain dog training lol.
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Pre workouts are such an unbelievable waste of money. I hate that I got sucked into believing in them when I first started lifting in college
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Angel Dust is our best selling product. Many thousands a week. Every store we have that carries it says it gets more attention, and then purchases, than any similar other product. If the name and the label get us a shot to prove the product is good, I don't see how anyone could say that was a mistake.
Thousands weekly? Impressive. What are your margins?
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Thousands weekly? Impressive. What are your margins?
Stupid question that deserves a stupid answer....
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dta.1735/abstract
A synthetic stimulant never before studied in humans, 1,3-dimethylbutylamine (DMBA), was suspected of being present in dietary supplements. DMBA is an analogue of the pharmaceutical stimulant, 1,3-dimethylamylamine (DMAA), which was recently banned by the US Food and Drug Administration. We obtained all dietary supplements sold by US distributors that listed an ingredient on the label, such as AMP Citrate, that might be a marketing name for DMBA. Supplements were analyzed for the presence and quantity of DMBA. Fourteen supplements met our inclusion criteria and were analyzed by two separate laboratories using ultra high performance liquid chromatography (UHPLC) - mass spectrometry and a reference standard. The identity of DMBA was confirmed in 12 supplements in the range of 13 to 120 mg DMBA per serving. Following recommendations on the supplement label for maximum daily intake, customers would consume from 26 to 320 mg of DMBA per day. Supplements containing DMBA were marketed to improve athletic performance, increase weight loss and enhance brain function. DMBA has never before been detected in supplements. The stimulant has never been studied in humans; its efficacy and safety are entirely unknown. Regulatory agencies should act expeditiously to warn consumers and remove DMBA from all dietary supplements
i bet it works great :D
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It's quite the poor business decision, of course a simpleton like you would look at the shock value of the name and that it gets some sales but you do not consider the big picture.
I think I really need your help. I'm sure your business acumen is really astounding. Other than being an insider, what businesses have you built?
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Thousands weekly? Impressive. What are your margins?
We do better than breaking even.
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We do better than breaking even.
Except you waste it like a Hebrew would on fancy car rentals (even more lame) and McMansion mortgages in expensive areas of Boca...
Dude, you do realize you are pushing supplements that have a limited success run, right?
Wake up!
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Are you upset with me ???
Maybe. Ill have to talk over my emotions with a friend and get back to you.
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Except you waste it like a Hebrew would on fancy car rentals (even more lame) and McMansion mortgages in expensive areas of Boca...
Dude, you do realize you are pushing supplements that have a limited success run, right?
Wake up!
Of course he doesn't realize any of that- seriously the guy is dumb as a box of rocks.
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We do better than breaking even.
“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” - H.L. Mencken
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Except you waste it like a Hebrew would on fancy car rentals (even more lame) and McMansion mortgages in expensive areas of Boca...
Dude, you do realize you are pushing supplements that have a limited success run, right?
Wake up!
If it's ok with you I'm going to just enjoy it while it lasts and have fun while I can! Lol. Life is good boys.
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Maybe. Ill have to talk over my emotions with a friend and get back to you.
Ok I'd like to Skype with you later and patch things up if possible bro. :D
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If it's ok with you I'm going to just enjoy it while it lasts and have fun while I can! Lol. Life is good boys.
You need a wake-up call NOW, you selfish fool.
At least one of you has children and a family to consider ahead of everything else. Instead, you're out "making it rain" like an insecure wannabe celebrity. Be a man!
Now, you made it this far, I'll give you that. But, the real question is, do you have what it takes to stay? I used to be just like you and Aaron. It took me to spend everything before I wised up.
Finally, try this on for something to "enjoy": Driving around in rented exotic cars may be cool, but try watching the next generation passionately run the company you helped build.
Nothing lasts forever unless you have the will to make it so, PJ. This is your wake-up call.
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You need a wake-up call NOW, you selfish fool.
At least one of you has children and a family to consider ahead of everything else. Instead, you're out "making it rain" like an insecure wannabe celebrity. Be a man!
Now, you made it this far, I'll give you that. But, the real question is, do you have what it takes to stay? I used to be just like you and Aaron. It took me to spend everything before I wised up.
Finally, try this on for something to "enjoy": Driving around in rented exotic cars may be cool, but try watching the next generation passionately run the company you helped build.
Nothing lasts forever unless you have the will to make it so, PJ. This is your wake-up call.
Ok Dad.
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You need a wake-up call NOW, you selfish fool.
At least one of you has children and a family to consider ahead of everything else. Instead, you're out "making it rain" like an insecure wannabe celebrity. Be a man!
Now, you made it this far, I'll give you that. But, the real question is, do you have what it takes to stay? I used to be just like you and Aaron. It took me to spend everything before I wised up.
Finally, try this on for something to "enjoy": Driving around in rented exotic cars may be cool, but try watching the next generation passionately run the company you helped build.
Nothing lasts forever unless you have the will to make it so, PJ. This is your wake-up call.
Here's a thought. How about you just let PJ do whatever the hell he wants ? Lol. I mean, wtf, dude ?!
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I think most people would be better off with a few cups of strong coffee before training, pre workouts as with most sups are just a means to a lighter wallet.
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If it's ok with you I'm going to just enjoy it while it lasts and have fun while I can! Lol. Life is good boys.
Sounds like a solid business plan
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Ok I'd like to Skype with you later and patch things up if possible bro. :D
PM me your details :-\
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You need a wake-up call NOW, you selfish fool.
At least one of you has children and a family to consider ahead of everything else. Instead, you're out "making it rain" like an insecure wannabe celebrity. Be a man!
Now, you made it this far, I'll give you that. But, the real question is, do you have what it takes to stay? I used to be just like you and Aaron. It took me to spend everything before I wised up.
Finally, try this on for something to "enjoy": Driving around in rented exotic cars may be cool, but try watching the next generation passionately run the company you helped build.
Nothing lasts forever unless you have the will to make it so, PJ. This is your wake-up call.
You're a moron. Shut up when grown folks are talking
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This is not accurate.
GI clearance time is nothing close to HBCD.
you are right actually
thats why my next intra workout will be peptopro + HBCD
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Use steroids and HGH fuck supplements. Id say the only supplement worth a shit is Hydrolyzed whey protein if you don;t have time to prep a meal and waxy maize starch for Intra. steroids/HGH/Insulin/certain peptides/anchileries plus waxy maize Intra = Monster!
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did we ever get a review of this?
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Review of prime nutritions intra md
Appearance
I liked how the jug looked
Scoop placement
The stupid scoop was buried and I had to dig around to get it out and powder spilled. Would have been nice if they took the time to put it on top
Smell
Very nice smelling orange scent. Made my mouth water
Taste
Good not great
Slightly gross but bearable
Wished it tasted more citrusy
Acne
Made me break out after a few days
I did not enjoy that
Biotest never did that to me
Digestion
Felt bloated and sluggish after drinking
Even when smaller dose used
Caused stomach upset
Soreness recovery
Still felt sore
Did not notice anything like advertised
Hydration
Felt more hydrated in workout
An ok at best product
Not worth money I'm glad I didn't have to pay for it
I did not finish jug
Cool idea I guess
2.1 out of 10
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Supplements = placebo effect + lighter wallet
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Buy HGH and juice. Steroids are cheap,HGH is expensive but HGh releasing peptides and Insulin is super cheap!
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reviewing a supplement powder is like reviewing a fake three dollar bill