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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: 240 is Back on November 17, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
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Like or Dislike? ???
1) requires employers to attest to their employees' immigration status;
2) makes it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants knowingly;
3) legalizes certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants, and;
4) legalizes illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 2010 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt; candidates are required to prove that they are not guilty of crimes, that they were in the country before January 1, 2010, and that they possess minimal knowledge about U.S. history, government, and the English language.
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like I guess...none of this will ever ever ever ever....ever be enforced.
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Ha ha ha. The jokes on you America. You stupid girls.
Don't believe a word that these cocksuckers say. They are proven liars and Obama is worst one of the lot.
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like I guess...none of this will ever ever ever ever....ever be enforced.
This.
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Gruber
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like I guess...none of this will ever ever ever ever....ever be enforced.
True. It's funny that the Government has no problem enforcing laws that relate to actual citizens. As an American if you break a law and don't have an expensive lawyer you better watch your ass. Hell even if you don't break the law the Attorney General might be out to get your non-black or mexican ass. They'll just try you as many times as it takes to get some kind of a weak conviction so they can throw the book at you. This country has never been more corrupt and crooked.
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With the name Obama attached to it what could possibly go wrong.
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With the name Obama attached to it what could possibly go wrong.
Look at point #4. "If you have broken the law daily for 4+ years, hey, you've earned citizenship."
That is total lib garbage - do you agree?
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Like or Dislike? ???
1) requires employers to attest to their employees' immigration status;
2) makes it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants knowingly;
3) legalizes certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants, and;
4) legalizes illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 2010 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt; candidates are required to prove that they are not guilty of crimes, that they were in the country before January 1, 2010, and that they possess minimal knowledge about U.S. history, government, and the English language.
you are a FNG idiot
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you are a FNG idiot
you already know that I believe amnesty isa terrible idea- mainly because we are REWARDING people who have broken the law. It IS a crime to be here illegally. Any talk of "Any illegal alien that hasn't broken any laws" is preposterous.
I wanted to see what getbiggers thought when they saw 4 actual points of amnesty - Are they cool with legalizing anyone that has been breaking the law in USA for over 4 years? I am curious what people here say "Hey, yeah, I'm okay with that".
I think it's a shitty lib idea, but only 1-2 people have said so.
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Look at point #4. "If you have broken the law daily for 4+ years, hey, you've earned citizenship."
That is total lib garbage - do you agree?
An illegal killed a cop and was let back in. He's full of shit. As usual.
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you already know that I believe amnesty isa terrible idea- mainly because we are REWARDING people who have broken the law. It IS a crime to be here illegally. Any talk of "Any illegal alien that hasn't broken any laws" is preposterous.
I wanted to see what getbiggers thought when they saw 4 actual points of amnesty - Are they cool with legalizing anyone that has been breaking the law in USA for over 4 years? I am curious what people here say "Hey, yeah, I'm okay with that".
I think it's a shitty lib idea, but only 1-2 people have said so.
nothing that ofAGGET SAYS MEANS ANYTYHING . Its only to appeal to his voters liker yourself
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An illegal killed a cop and was let back in. He's full of shit. As usual.
Hey, in downtown lee county, a brave cop was killed by an illegal that had served jail time for violent crimes. You don't have to tell me how they should be booted. I support breaking their legs and dropping them off in madascascar or Somalia or antarctica.
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Anything that doesn't start with build a wall is wrong.
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Not a single getbigger HATES this part? Am I the ONLY one that is outraged by it? "You must have been illegal for 4 years, please". They'll be lying to prove they've been breaking the law as long as possible, and be REWARDED for it! lol. Unreal.
" legalizes illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 2010 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt
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so some of the biggest anti-Obama getbig members are "like" when it comes to saying people that have been living here illegally for 4+ years are cool to stay?
That baffles me. I thought repubs, conservatives and independents here would be OUTRAGED at the "you've managed to stay here for 4 years without getting caught, you can stay forever now!" mindset.
Really? Sheeit, I guess I was wrong. Most people here DO support amnesty. I thought it was otherwise :( :(
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Ok...1-3 like...4....no way but 1-3 would never be reinforced.
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Ok...1-3 like...4....no way but 1-3 would never be reinforced.
#4 is the main one that stood out to me as "WTF". Essentially, rewarding those who have been clever enough to break the law here for a long enough time period? It's like saying we will pardon all car thieves, but only if you stole a Lexus. if you stole a bucket, you're staying in jail.
The more egregious your crime, the more lenient the penalty. I don't know why repubs aren't standing up saying "#4 sucks!"
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I think this whole debate is ridiculous......why isn't the border secure? Why isn't it guarded?
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I think this whole debate is ridiculous......why isn't the border secure? Why isn't it guarded?
It's not just illegals flooding the border, what about the drug cartels. They fucking saw peoples heads of and shit, kidnapping people in the United States, human trafficking. The politicians don't want this to stop obviously. With everything in politics you have to follow the money. So that prompts the question, who is getting greased and by whom.
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Yeah.....the whole thing is just absurd. We're giving them green cards and welfare...they should be getting steel bb's and 5.56.
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it's actually 5 years. Illegals had to be here 5 years.
Turns out, that 4 years was Reagan's, actually.
Obama’s Immigration Plan Could Shield Four Million By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and ROBERT PEAR NOV. 19, 2014
President Obama on Tuesday. Some advocates said this week that they saw a paradox in the president’s policy.
WASHINGTON — Up to four million undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years can apply for a program that protects them from deportation and allows those with no criminal record to work legally in the country, President Obama is to announce on Thursday, according to people briefed on his plans.
An additional one million people will get protection from deportation through other parts of the president’s plan to overhaul the nation’s immigration enforcement system, including the expansion of an existing program for “Dreamers,” young immigrants who came to the United States as children. There will no longer be a limit on the age of the people who qualify.
But farm workers will not receive specific protection from deportation, nor will the Dreamers’ parents. And none of the five million immigrants over all who will be given new legal protections will get government subsidies for health care under the Affordable Care Act.
Govs. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Rick Perry of Texas, at center and right, threatened possible legal action over President Obama’s pending executive action on immigration.Immigration
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Like it matters? >:(
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It's bullshit.
2) makes it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants knowingly;
- so you can employ them and to be penalized for it, they have to prove in court that you knew???
3) legalizes certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants, and;
- so it's legal to hire them - sort of conflicts with 2!
As for number 4 - total BS - OK - let some people stay but can they speak English? Are they educated? Do they have savings? Can they support themselves? Can they CONTRIBUTE to society or will they LEECH off it?
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Just more lies from Obola:
1) requires employers to attest to their employees' immigration status;
= "If you like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor"
2) makes it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants knowingly;
= "If you like your Health Plan you can keep your health plan"
4) legalizes illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 2010 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt; candidates are required to prove that they are not guilty of crimes, that they were in the country before January 1, 2010, and that they possess minimal knowledge about U.S. history, government, and the English language.
= Families will see an average of $2500 reduction in cost for their health insurance"
The truth is we have over 20 million illegals here, with millions more heading this way soon, most will go on government assistance (our tax dollars), schools will be overloaded even more. Thanks to idiots like 240 who voted for "hope and change" America will never be the same.
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Just more lies from Obola:
= "If you like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor"
= "If you like your Health Plan you can keep your health plan"
= Families will see an average of $2500 reduction in cost for their health insurance"
The truth is we have over 20 million illegals here, with millions more heading this way soon, most will go on government assistance (our tax dollars), schools will be overloaded even more. Thanks to idiots like 240 who voted for "hope and change" America will never be the same.
A nation can survive an Obama - what it cant survive are the voters who approve of this type of lawlessness and a corrupt communist tyrant like ofagget
Look at a few posters on this board seriously - Option D, Andre, and Straw - imaginer that people like that vote and you know exactly why things are so F'D up.
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http://freebeacon.com/politics/jay-carney-obama-literally-doing-what-he-said-was-unconstitutional-in-2011
>:(
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A nation can survive an Obama - what it cant survive are the voters who approve of this type of lawlessness and a corrupt communist tyrant like ofagget
Look at a few posters on this board seriously - Option D, Andre, and Straw - imaginer that people like that vote and you know exactly why things are so F'D up.
I rarely disagree with you, but on this I do. I live in Texas, on the front line of the damage being done by the huge influx of illegals. and what Obola did last night will do irreparable damage to us.
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I rarely disagree with you, but on this I do. I live in Texas, on the front line of the damage being done by the huge influx of illegals. and what Obola did last night will do irreparable damage to us.
See - what I mean is pieces of worthless shit like Obama always come around - but they are dealt w by a citizenry not willing to support their treason. But with a communist drug addicted fag like Obama - you have people like 240, option F, Straw, Andre et al who make excuses for this shit and will keep doing do for every similarly worthless shitstain like Obama who comes a long.
But I agree - Obama is doing disastrous damage to this nation
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I live in Texas, on the front line of the damage being done by the huge influx of illegals. and what Obola did last night will do irreparable damage to us. Survive? yes, Prosper? No
Is this set in stone now though?
Can one man just do something like that unilaterally in the US?
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you have people like 240, option F, Straw, Andre et al who make excuses for this shit
You can't really believe I support amnesty, do you?
I mean, for all my debate and kneepadding on other topics - Amnesty? Really?
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Is this set in stone now though?
Can one man just do something like that unilaterally in the US?
Yes it is done, just like Obama-care.
The only person in Washington with the guts to undo it is Ted Cruz, and you not only have the liberals politicians smearing his name but also the Republican establishment like McCain smearing his name as well to the media, making it very hard for him to become the Republican nominee for President.
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You can't really believe I support amnesty, do you?
I mean, for all my debate and kneepadding on other topics - Amnesty? Really?
Not on this bro - but what led to this - we did not get here overnight.
I know you now hate Obama - but the excuses over the past few years served to help embolden this scumbag to the point we are today.
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You can't really believe I support amnesty, do you?
I mean, for all my debate and kneepadding on other topics - Amnesty? Really?
If you own a business and you hire someone to run your Company that then ruins (bankrupts) the Company, then you are also responsible.
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See - what I mean is pieces of worthless shit like Obama always come around - but they are dealt w by a citizenry not willing to support their treason. But with a communist drug addicted fag like Obama - you have people like 240, option F, Straw, Andre et al who make excuses for this shit and will keep doing do for every similarly worthless shitstain like Obama who comes a long.
But I agree - Obama is doing disastrous damage to this nation
Not anymore, things have changed.
"Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You" is the mindset of many now, and the mindset of many more heading this way as fast as they can thanks Obola.
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Not anymore, things have changed.
"Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You" is the mindset of many now, and the mindset of many more heading this way as fast as they can thanks Obola.
The welfare parasites who make up Obama's base of support are now in charge. Just look at the posts of people like Andre straw option F, et al - can it be any more depressing what portends for a country in the future when fools like that vote ?
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The welfare parasites who make up Obama's base of support are now in charge. Just look at the posts of people like Andre straw option F, et al - can it be any more depressing what portends for a country in the future when fools like that vote ?
Its only going to get worse.
When 240 and his voting crew are done the entire country will look like Detroit.
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You guys should be thankful if it looks like Detroit. I wish I had taken picture son some of my trips to central America...its horrifying. The Middle East is the Middle east...they aren't coming here in the millions like these people.
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You guys should be thankful if it looks like Detroit. I wish I had taken picture son some of my trips to central America...its horrifying. The Middle East is the Middle east...they aren't coming here in the millions like these people.
They will before he is done
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Not anymore, things have changed.
"Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You" is the mindset of many now, and the mindset of many more heading this way as fast as they can thanks Obola.
Exactly.
Irreparable damage. People dont seem to realize the magnitude of this man's presidency. Future generations will look back on this time as a major turning point in american history and wonder why so many of us just went along with everything.
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YOu guys are killing your brains over the immigration issue.....Obama did the right thing......The people that he gave amnesty to WERE NEVER EVER GOING TO BE DEPORTED ANYWAY.....MANY OF THEM WORK..THEY HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE ALREADY CITIZENS....THEY PAY TAXES...AND THEY ARE MOSTLY STABLE AND STAY OUT OF TROUBLE......
Why waste resources looking for them and deporting them?.....it makes no sense..better to focus on those who are a true danger.....ALSO...Obama did the right thing here because now ...ALL THOSE ILLEGALS WILL NOW HAVE TO REGISTER....NOW WE WILL KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHERE THEY WORK...whereas before they were living in the shadows and who knows where the hell they were or who they are, or what they were doing???
Finally, the big secret that Obama or no one else in giovernment wants to discuss is that THIS ACTION SAVES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT A TON OF MONEY...it now costs an estimated $29,000 to deport ONE illegal.....thats money we cvan't aford....it would bankrupt the country.....
The Republicans and conservatives were stalling on this issue....they had time to try to repeal Obamacare 40 times but did not lift a finger to work on the immigration issue EVEN WITH A MAJORITY IN CONGRESS.....and the fact of the matter is...THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SECURE THE BORDERS EITHER, EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE THE PRESIDENCY, YET THEY CRITICIZE OBAMA FOR NOT DOING IT
I think the government may not want to tell us that the border is UNSECURABLE..it can't be done...even with a wall, Mexicans and other will still find a way around it...the Mexicans have been coming across this border for thousands of years.....since parts of the U.S. USED TO BE MEXICO.....they know all the tricks.....they are not gonna stop no matter what...MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED COMING ACROSS THE BORDER IN OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY THAN AT ANY TIME IN HISTORY EVEN THOUGH LESS ARE ACTUALLY COMING...and OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE ILLEGALS THAN ANY PRESIDENT EVER
BUT the Obama haters hate to conced any point which gives Obama credit for anything....thats the real problem.
GOOD JOB BY OBAMA
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An exhaustive study by the Heritage Foundation has found that after amnesty, current unlawful immigrants would receive $9.4 trillion in government benefits and services and pay more than $3 trillion in taxes over their lifetimes. That leaves a net fiscal deficit (benefits minus taxes) of $6.3 trillion. That deficit would have to be financed by increasing the government debt or raising taxes on U.S. citizens.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants-will-cost-america/2013/05/06/e5d19afc-b661-11e2-b94c-b684dda07add_story.html
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Its only going to get worse.
When 240 and his voting crew are done the entire country will look like Detroit.
Truth. :-\
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Truth. :-\
Oh wait... today is Friday, 240 is a libertarian on Fridays.