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Colt Cabana art of wrestling podcast interviews CM Punk
http://www.tsmradio.com/colthold2/show226.mp3 (http://www.tsmradio.com/colthold2/show226.mp3)
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Finally caught it on Youtube, as it wasn't available on ITunes.
Kinda reminded me of the Bret Hart doc. The main point is that the WWE didn't care about his welfare.
What did he expect? Did he not know anything about Vince, before signing with the WWE. Vince was a sleazy promoter when Punk was playing in a sandbox.
I give Punk credit for quitting, but, it's a lot easier to have a big set of balls when you have a few million in the bank.
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There is word going around that he will be doing a 2nd part interview with colt cabana..
To throw more dirt out on what is like to work for Vince and the backstage politics / HHH.. this will be interesting ;D
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He called ryback...
The steroid guy... :D
I wonder what dirt he is going dishing out on cena when he does part 2 of the interview..
Cena = GH / insulin guy. :-X
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There is word going around that he will be doing a 2nd part interview with colt cabana..
To throw more dirt out on what is like to work for Vince and the backstage politics / HHH.. this will be interesting ;D
I'm surprised he didn't choose an outlet that would make him money for airing this material, such as a shoot DVD or book.
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He called ryback...
The steroid guy... :D
I wonder what dirt he is going thru out on cena when he does part 2 of the interview..
Cena = GH / insulin guy. :-X
While Ryback is the most obvious steroid user in the WWE, they're pretty much all on steroids. Punk just fingered the guy he had a beef with.
The interview didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know, and I didn't find myself sympathetic to Punk.
At one point he said the WWE didn't make him and that he was CM Punk when he arrived.
While he did make the most of his shot, the reason his bank account is fat is a direct result of being in the WWE and the exposure that brings.
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What's he doing now?
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Wasn't CM Punk pretty popular?
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What's he doing now?
From what he said, he's writing Comic Books.
I'm not kidding.
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I'm surprised he didn't choose an outlet that would make him money for airing this material, such as a shoot DVD or book.
I think it's because of his friendship with colt cabana..
Rf video would of payed him a fortune..
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Apparently, he's gonna respond to emailed questions next week.
One I would like to ask is what it's like for his wife's who is still working for Vince.
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Apparently HHH is butt hurt...
;D
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I'm surprised he didn't choose an outlet that would make him money for airing this material, such as a shoot DVD or book.
Guy lives in a small apartment and supposedly saved for this rainy day/retirement/firing.
I see him becoming a commentator for UFC, Wrestling etc.
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Apparently HHH is butt hurt...
;D
He knows he's gonna have to listen to a lot of "CM Punk" chants in the arenas going forward.
That said, it seems like most of these disgruntled wrestlers, with their whining about how the WWE didn't care about them, have never had jobs in the real world.
No one forced Punk to become a pro wrestler or to work for Vince. If he's so concerned about the treatment of the boys, he's free to start his own promotion and treat the wrestlers as he sees fit. Trying to change the WWE is not gonna work. It's Vince's company. He took all the risks to make it successful and he's gonna run it his way.
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More wrestlers backing CM Punk about WWE looking the other way when
Wrestlers are injured.
See below:
Former WWE Superstar Rene Dupree talked to Slam Sports recently, following last week’s controversial CM Punk interview on “The Art of Wrestling” podcast with Colt Cabana.
Part of Punk’s tell-all discussion revealed that WWE doctors continually forced him into action and refused medical treatment on a lump that was eventually revealed as a life-threatening staph infection. Renee Dupree, a two-time WWE tag champion, revealed a similar situation that happened to him during his run with the company.
According to the interview with Slam, Dupree had a hematoma in his temple and was given the night off from Smackdown by Stephanie McMahon. When the cabin pressure normalized on a flight to Cincinnati, the hematoma burst. “I was wearing a white Gold’s Gym t-shirt and it was covered in blood.” Paramedics on scene told the crew that he needed to be rushed to the hospital, but a WWE doctor made the call to keep him on the roster’s connecting flight to Louisville.
According to Rene, he did receive treatment in Louisville, but “I risked my life to save the company a few extra bucks.” The company would have had to pay for a separate flight for him after surgery, but that’s essentially the only real expense.
This is not the first affirmation of CM Punk‘s claim that WWE officials are there to support the company, and not necessarily the talent. In Hardcore Holly’s 2013 autobiography, “The Hardcore Truth”, he revealed his own staph infection that almost cost him his arm. It was diagnosed in the U.S., but backstage staff - including John Laurinaitis – insisted that he attend the European tour, where the infection worsened and Holly almost required an amputation.
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Wasn't CM Punk pretty popular?
Yes.. there are still chants in the arena even thou he is no longer wrestling..
Apparently he was making cena money $$ before he quit..
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The hole I see in Punk's story is that he acts like the WWE doctor was the only doctor in the world. He could've gone to any emergency room and would've been treated.
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2nd interview
https://m.soundcloud.com/coltcabana/aow-227-cm-punk-returns (https://m.soundcloud.com/coltcabana/aow-227-cm-punk-returns)
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Guy lives in a small apartment and supposedly saved for this rainy day/retirement/firing.
I see him becoming a commentator for UFC, Wrestling etc.
It says CM Punk is worth 7.5 million dollars, so he is doing too bad.
Could retire easily.
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It is tough being a wrestler, yes you personally have the right to go and do whatever but if you disobey Vince/HHH by asking for the night off, take a sabatical etc..then what. You are tossed down the card, punished etc.
Wrestling is dying...there will never be a competitor like WCW to force WWE to put on quality shows. PPV's are nothing but glorified Raws and 9/10x the Raw after the PPV is better.
It is so funny, I remember my Dad telling me about Antonio Rocca, Skull Murphy etc and me telling my 7 yr old son about the Rock, Stone Cold etc but who will our generation look forward to telling their kids about? John Cena is the only one and this is based on his marketing..
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It is tough being a wrestler, yes you personally have the right to go and do whatever but if you disobey Vince/HHH by asking for the night off, take a sabatical etc..then what. You are tossed down the card, punished etc.
Wrestling is dying...there will never be a competitor like WCW to force WWE to put on quality shows. PPV's are nothing but glorified Raws and 9/10x the Raw after the PPV is better.
It is so funny, I remember my Dad telling me about Antonio Rocca, Skull Murphy etc and me telling my 7 yr old son about the Rock, Stone Cold etc but who will our generation look forward to telling their kids about? John Cena is the only one and this is based on his marketing..
Tell him about Gold Dust :D
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Just heard CM punk will fight in the UFC.
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http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/11991124/cm-punk-joins-ufc-fight-2015
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Good for him!
His name alone should draw enough interest and attention to earn him at least a couple of good payouts even if it doesn't go well or otherwise last long.
I only ran into the guy a couple of times while working a few Indy dates with our old promotion, and I know very little about him. But, he seems pretty down to earth and humble.
Even living modestly, though, whatever he's saved up won't last the rest of his life. He needs to do something, and this seems like an excellent choice because it will extend his relevance to the public, affording him future opportunities he might not get with less notoriety.
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He's only going to be matched up with fighter's with small records. Smart move on Dana's part. Guys that are 1-0, 2-0, 0-1, etc. He plans to fight at 185 pounds and possibly 170. He's not a big guy at all. I think he's less than 6 feet tall.
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I enjoyed this podcast as Punk basically told the exact truth and he hit the nail on the head. Loved it.
Best in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What's he doing now?
He signed a multi-fight deal with the UFC. Apparently he has a huge martial arts background. He'll be ok. He's a smart cat.
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He's a vanilla midget and Vince is a schmoe, of course things didn't work out.
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;D
Apparently there is another upcoming colt cabana podcast where punk will
Be addressing more WWE shit... should be good.
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Monty predicts that Punk will be back in the Fed before 2016.
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Monty predicts that Punk will be back in the Fed before 2016.
Before 2016? That'd be interesting considering he's got most of this year preparing for his UFC debut. Punk strikes me as a Bruno/Hellwig/Hart type in that he thinks he more valuable to the fed then they are to him. These guys always feel they've been wronged and because of that it's less about money now and more about principles.
Although I wouldn't be shocked if he had a change of heart if he gets demolished.
All that said theres no question he'll be back, it's just a matter of time. The sooner the better though.
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Before 2016? That'd be interesting considering he's got most of this year preparing for his UFC debut. Punk strikes me as a Bruno/Hellwig/Hart type in that he thinks he more valuable to the fed then they are to him. These guys always feel they've been wronged and because of that it's less about money now and more about principles.
Although I wouldn't be shocked if he had a change of heart if he gets demolished.
All that said theres no question he'll be back, it's just a matter of time. The sooner the better though.
I used to think along those lines, too - but, after seeing Bret, Bruno, and Ultimate Jim go in, it seems the only claim we can make with certainty is that EVERYBODY eventually goes in.
And, I don't consider that "selling out," either. As I've mentioned here before, selling out to me suggests abandoning your moral code for a cheap payday.
Using Bruno as the most extreme example, he asked for a lot more than he thought Vince would ever agree to pay. That made it worth it to Bruno. Yeah, we could say that McMahon paid him off and Bruno caved in. But, in this instance, it may be more accurate to say that Bruno held out for a LOT of years, making VINCE cave in and pay a lot more than he was planning.
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I used to think along those lines, too - but, after seeing Bret, Bruno, and Ultimate Jim go in, it seems the only claim we can make with certainty is that EVERYBODY eventually goes in.
And, I don't consider that "selling out," either. As I've mentioned here before, selling out to me suggests abandoning your moral code for a cheap payday.
Using Bruno as the most extreme example, he asked for a lot more than he thought Vince would ever agree to pay. That made it worth it to Bruno. Yeah, we could say that McMahon paid him off and Bruno caved in. But, in this instance, it may be more accurate to say that Bruno held out for a LOT of years, making VINCE cave in and pay a lot more than he was planning.
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Lol I don't ever consider these guys "selling out". I think that's mostly fan boys who don't understand the real world let alone wrestling. No matter what anyone says if they wrestle they want to be in the WWE, otherwise why do it ( I mean guys who've committed their life to the art, not necessarily weekend guys with 9 to 5s). It's the only show in town so it's not a sell out.
I only meant I'd be surprised if Punk came back so soon. He's like the aforementioned guys in that he'll need more then just money (some sort of apology, which I know he'd get) and he doesn't think he did anything wrong (and I'd agree with that).
Using Austin's walk out as an example, SCSA felt disrespected but then he admitted, and still does, that he was wrong. IF Punk ever felt that way, and I don't think he will, it'll be awhile before he's ready to admit it.
He will be back though, that much we know.
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Odds on his success in the UFC?
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Lol I don't ever consider these guys "selling out". I think that's mostly fan boys who don't understand the real world let alone wrestling. No matter what anyone says if they wrestle they want to be in the WWE, otherwise why do it ( I mean guys who've committed their life to the art, not necessarily weekend guys with 9 to 5s). It's the only show in town so it's not a sell out.
I only meant I'd be surprised if Punk came back so soon. He's like the aforementioned guys in that he'll need more then just money (some sort of apology, which I know he'd get) and he doesn't think he did anything wrong (and I'd agree with that).
Using Austin's walk out as an example, SCSA felt disrespected but then he admitted, and still does, that he was wrong. IF Punk ever felt that way, and I don't think he will, it'll be awhile before he's ready to admit it.
He will be back though, that much we know.
Sorry, brother - I wasn't inferring that you, personally, considered it selling out. I was speaking in general terms (smarks).
You raise good points.
As far as the Fed being the ultimate goal for everyone, I can say that I only encountered ONE guy whose biggest professional goal was to make it to ROH. He was a talented young guy intent on getting even better; wanted to wrestle full-time and believed that Ring of Honor was the place to do it.
I'll have to Google him one of these days to see where he went in the biz and if he's still in it. He's about my age, and I knew him around 2003.
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Odds on his success in the UFC?
I haven't followed MMA since the late-90's. Punk is pretty smart, though. I don't know that he would invest this much effort in something at which he doubted he stood a decent chance.
Although, with other opportunities available to him (UFC not being the only, but maybe the next best on the list), he may not be deathly afraid of "failing," just as he wasn't afraid to walk out of WWF.
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CM Punk will probably hold out for a couple of years..
And demand a Brock /y2j /rvd schedule...
It's being said he saved his $$ and is very frugal on he spends it..
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CM Punk will probably hold out for a couple of years..
And demand a Brock /y2j /rvd schedule...
It's being said he saved his $$ and is very frugal on he spends it..
You're forgetting that her and her lawyer are gonna eventually get most of it.
(http://www.pwmania.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/aj-lee-4.jpg)
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You're forgetting that her and her lawyer are gonna eventually get most of it.
(http://www.pwmania.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/aj-lee-4.jpg)
Do you think Liz and Macho had a pre-nup?
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I think the biggest irony is if and when Punk comes back....as a Part timer ala Jericho, Rock and Brock
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Do you think Liz and Macho had a pre-nup?
Probably not. Even with a prenup, judges tend to favor the woman.
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Probably not. Even with a prenup, judges tend to favor the woman.
Especially if he heard testimony that she was kept locked in a backstage dressing room for most of the night on most nights.
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Especially if he heard testimony that she was kept locked in a backstage dressing room for most of the night on most nights.
During the interview, Punk kept referring to AJ as "Ape." It seemed like a weird nickname for a cute chick until I Googled her and found out her real name is April.
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I used to think along those lines, too - but, after seeing Bret, Bruno, and Ultimate Jim go in, it seems the only claim we can make with certainty is that EVERYBODY eventually goes in.
And, I don't consider that "selling out," either. As I've mentioned here before, selling out to me suggests abandoning your moral code for a cheap payday.
Using Bruno as the most extreme example, he asked for a lot more than he thought Vince would ever agree to pay. That made it worth it to Bruno. Yeah, we could say that McMahon paid him off and Bruno caved in. But, in this instance, it may be more accurate to say that Bruno held out for a LOT of years, making VINCE cave in and pay a lot more than he was planning.
Agreed 100%
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I enjoyed this podcast as Punk basically told the exact truth and he hit the nail on the head. Loved it.
Best in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed. Just listened to the podcast this week, was great. Been watching some of his old stuff on YouTube and wwe network. Will miss his work.
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Agreed 100%
You look at Rollins. He's a smart guy and a great athlete and wrestler, but, he's just not as compelling as Punk.
It seems like everyone at the WWE is just happy to be there making money. While you can't really blame, that attitude is why no one is doing anything special.
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You look at Rollins. He's a smart guy and a great athlete and wrestler, but, he's just not as compelling as Punk.
It seems like everyone at the WWE is just happy to be there making money. While you can't really blame, that attitude is why no one is doing anything special.
That's because prior to the millinium, you made your money off the gate. If you stunk and didn't draw, you got fuck all. Now guys have 500,000+ dollar a year salaries with a downside guarantee of like 250,000 so they get paid regardless.
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That's because prior to the millinium, you made your money off the gate. If you stunk and didn't draw, you got fuck all. Now guys have 500,000+ dollar a year salaries with a downside guarantee of like 250,000 so they get paid regardless.
I agree it sucks, but the old man had no choice.
He either offered guaranteed money to compete with Turner, or he'd very likely be out of business!
He couldn't really go back to the old formula, either, after setting the precedent.
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I agree it sucks, but the old man had no choice.
He either offered guaranteed money to compete with Turner, or he'd very likely be out of business!He couldn't really go back to the old formula, either, after setting the precedent.
And they should all be taking turns blowing Kevin Nash for that. He brought the pay scale up.
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And they should all be taking turns blowing Kevin Nash for that. He brought the pay scale up.
Yep.
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Yep.
I remember back in the eighties in AWA, WWF (then) or JCP, if you didn't wrestle, you simply missed out on getting paid. The bulk of your pay came from the gate. If you drew, you made money...hence the reason many guys like Paul Orndorff wrestled injured to not miss out on the money feud with Hogan for example.
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I remember back in the eighties in AWA, WWF (then) or JCP, if you didn't wrestle, you simply missed out on getting paid. The bulk of your pay came from the gate. If you drew, you made money...hence the reason many guys like Paul Orndorff wrestled injured to not miss out on the money feud with Hogan for example.
Do you remember how much Paul claimed to have made during that run?
Wasn't it the highest-drawing angle in the 80's?
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Do you remember how much Paul claimed to have made during that run?
Wasn't it the highest-drawing angle in the 80's?
According to WWE, it was the biggest money feud of the eighties. Orndorff was making 70,000 - 90,000 per week during his 6 month long fued with Hogan. You can only imagine what Hogan made and better still what Vince made.
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According to WWE, it was the biggest money feud of the eighties. Orndorff was making 70,000 - 90,000 per week during his 6 month long fued with Hogan. You can only imagine what Hogan made and better still what Vince made.
GEEZUS!!!
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GEEZUS!!!
The good 'ol eighties boom....right place...right time.
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The good 'ol eighties boom....right place...right time.
We'll never see that again.
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We'll never see that again.
I hate to say it as a fan but a truly agree with you Monte and I think we have seen the best and the most of what you will see in pro wrestling. The world is way to politically correct for an attitude era to begin and the business has evolved from having 1-2 major PPV's a year and squash matches for TV's. No territories = no different types of talent. All one dimensional now. GARBAGE.
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I hate to say it as a fan but a truly agree with you Monte and I think we have seen the best and the most of what you will see in pro wrestling. The world is way to politically correct for an attitude era to begin and the business has evolved from having 1-2 major PPV's a year and squash matches for TV's. No territories = no different types of talent. All one dimensional now. GARBAGE.
:'( :'(
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:'( :'(
Come on Monte, I know you love Fandango...or better still A New Day :P :P :P :P ::)
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Come on Monte, I know you love Fandango...or better still A New Day :P :P :P :P ::)
Dude, please...
It's FAAAAAN...DAAAAAN...GOOO OO!!!!
And, he's gonna be the next to make it, brother - and I mean ALL THE WAY! Just look at his entrance and music!! Seriously, he's gonna top Cena. And, Cena already topped Hogan.
That will make FAAAAAN...DAAAAAN...GOOO OO GREATER than Hulkamania!
"Correct" me if I'm wrong.
;)
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Dude, please...
It's FAAAAAN...DAAAAAN...GOOO OO!!!!
And, he's gonna be the next to make it, brother - and I mean ALL THE WAY! Just look at his entrance and music!! Seriously, he's gonna top Cena. And, Cena already topped Hogan.
That will make FAAAAAN...DAAAAAN...GOOO OO GREATER than Hulkamania!
"Correct" me if I'm wrong.
;)
Your right...Cena did top Hogan...by adding more IU's of HGH to his cycle. ;D ;D ;D
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Your right...Cena did top Hogan...by adding more IU's of HGH to his cycle. ;D ;D ;D
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!!!!
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HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!!!!
You guys really want to laugh?
WWE just suspended Hornswaggle for failing the wellness policy.... ::)
When was the last time that ludacris policy was even mentioned?
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You guys really want to laugh?
WWE just suspended Hornswaggle for failing the wellness policy.... ::)
When was the last time that ludacris policy was even mentioned?
Who even knew he was still employed by WWE?
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Who even knew he was still employed by WWE?
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!!!!
x2
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Who even knew he was still employed by WWE?
He wasn't the dude in the El Dorito outfit?
(I know he's not, but how many little wrestlers do you need without an entire division of them?)
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Who even knew he was still employed by WWE?
I wonder what he tested positive for? I think its safe to say its not test :D
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I wonder what he tested positive for? I think its safe to say its not test :D
Growth hormone.
Although, he suspected it was counterfeit when his results came up "short."
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Growth hormone.
Although, he suspected it was counterfeit when his results came up "short."
That's a Bobby Heenan commentary style "heel remark" ... lol ;D
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That's a Bobby Heenan commentary style "heel remark" ... lol ;D
Heenan had a great comment for Bischoff in WCW in regards to a midget battle royal.
Eric told him to watch what you say because the midgets will write in.
Bobby said, "They can't reach the mail slot."
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Heenan had a great comment for Bischoff in WCW in regards to a midget battle royal.
Eric told him to watch what you say because the midgets will write in.
Bobby said, "They can't reach the mail slot."
Lol...God bless him. He isn't doing that well at all at this point. His face is barely recognizable and he no longer can speak. :-[
1985....John Studd and Bundy vs Hogan and JYD. Back then if you slammed Studd, you got 15,000....lol...Hogan slams Studd and Heenan yells, "Don't let him hiptoss you again!"