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Hypocrite.
Trey Radel, Busted On Cocaine Charge, Voted For Drug Testing Food Stamp Recipients
Posted: 11/19/2013 7:21 pm EST Updated: 10/16/2014 1
WASHINGTON -- In September, Rep. Trey Radel voted for Republican legislation that would allow states to make food stamp recipients pee in cups to prove they're not on drugs. In October, police busted the Florida Republican on a charge of cocaine possession.
“It’s really interesting it came on the heels of Republicans voting on everyone who had access to food stamps get drug tested," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told BuzzFeed Tuesday. "It’s like, what?”
The House over the summer approved an amendment by Rep. Richard Hudson (R-N.C.) that would let states drug test people on food stamps. The amendment passed by voice vote, meaning members' individual yeas and nays were not recorded. Radel later voted in favor of a broader food stamps bill that included Hudson's measure.
In support of his drug testing legislation, Hudson cited the many state legislatures around the country that had considered similar requirements for other means-tested programs in recent years.
"This is a clear and obvious problem in our communities as nearly 30 states have introduced legislation to drug test for welfare programs," Hudson said. "We have a moral obligation to equip the states with the tools they need to discourage the use of illegal drugs."
Most of the state legislation was authored by Republicans. Oftentimes, state Democrats responded by suggesting lawmakers should be subject to tests as well. If the government's going to make sure recipients of taxpayer-funded benefits are clean, the argument went, then why not also make sure the recipients of taxpayer salaries are clean, too?
In June, Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) made that very suggestion when he questioned why recipients of crop insurance and other government benefits weren't also targeted for drug tests like people on food stamps.
"Why don't we drug test all the members of Congress here," McGovern said shortly before the drug-testing measure passed. "Force everybody to go urinate in a cup or see whether or not anybody is on drugs? Maybe that will explain why some of these amendments are coming up or why some of the votes are turning out the way they are."
The fate of the food stamp drug testing provision is in the hands of a House-Senate conference committee hashing out differences between food stamp and farm legislation that passed the two chambers. It's got a chance. Last year, Congress passed a law to let states drug-test some unemployment insurance recipients.
Radel apologized Tuesday for his cocaine bust and said he'd seek treatment.
"I struggle with the disease of alcoholism, and this led to an extremely irresponsible choice," he said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/trey-radel-drug-testing_n_4305348.html
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Elites always think they are above the law.
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He was on food stamps?
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"I struggle with the disease of alcoholism, and this led to an extremely irresponsible choice," he said.
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Man up for fucks sake.
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not hypocritical unless he is against drugs or on food stamps.
Personally I dont give a shit what you do as long as it doesnt effect me. I think a drug using social leach is worse....then again he is a politician which makes him a leach...
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I loved trey radel's morning show. listened to him from 6 til 9am on FOX radio a lot of mornings. This was before he ran. Good guy. married to a local news anchor. He was one of those dudes that attacked obama daily, and thought criminal prosecutions were the answer to everything - until he did coke.
His opponents attacked him for being a porn king, as his media company did a lot of that. Maybe that showed some of the shady side of him. Locally, he wasn't a rock star, more of a statesman, a younger promising star but not shiny either.
He did rehab, he got his record deleted, his woman got her news anchor job back with local FOX affiliate. His seat was taken by that NBA player, who won re-eleciton by refusing to debate lol. curt clawson.
radel will be back. he'll run on some "help the poor drug abusers" once the party swings RINO, and he wants to run a moderate. Man, he tore up obama for his drug use lol, funny times.
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not hypocritical unless he is against drugs or on food stamps.
Personally I dont give a shit what you do as long as it doesnt effect me. I think a drug using social leach is worse....then again he is a politician which makes him a leach...
He's a government employee receiving government benefits just likes those on public assistance.
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Lol at any dumbass that would make excuses for this person. He behaved like a hypocrite, a liar, a scumbag. And you can bet your sweet life he'd still be getting high if it was up to him.
Lol, get real.
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Lol at any dumbass that would make excuses for this person. He behaved like a hypocrite, a liar, a scumbag. And you can bet your sweet life he'd still be getting high if it was up to him.
Lol, get real.
Is he against drugs? Or just against people on government assistance spending money for drugs?
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Is he against drugs? Or just against people on government assistance spending money for drugs?
Maybe he was doing drugs in order to make them less available to others.
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he was just buying cocaine to prevent this cocaine from being available to obama.
therefore his drug buy was, well, kinda heroic.
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He's a government employee receiving government benefits just likes those on public assistance.
nah a paycheck is different than public assistance.
Technically he is being paid for a serivce, what service are the people on public assistance providing?
Dont get me wrong the guys is almost certainly a shit head but not b/c he voted for a bill on drug testing those who receive tax payer money for nothing in return and then did drugs.
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nah a paycheck is different than public assistance.
Technically he is being paid for a serivce, what service are the people on public assistance providing?
Dont get me wrong the guys is almost certainly a shit head but not b/c he voted for a bill on drug testing those who receive tax payer money for nothing in return and then did drugs.
Bullshit. They work like 100 days a year and make almost 200k from us. This is way worse than welfare.
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Bullshit. They work like 100 days a year and make almost 200k from us. This is way worse than welfare.
valid argument, unfortunately it doesnt change the fact that he does work to perform a service for the money he makes.
again what service do those on public assistance perform to earn their money?
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nah a paycheck is different than public assistance.
Technically he is being paid for a serivce, what service are the people on public assistance providing?
Dont get me wrong the guys is almost certainly a shit head but not b/c he voted for a bill on drug testing those who receive tax payer money for nothing in return and then did drugs.
I understand the difference, although they are both receiving money from the government. If he is taking the position that people who receive government money should be drug tested, he shouldn't be doing drugs himself. He used his taxpayer funded salary to buy the very thing he is trying to prevent welfare recipients from using. That's hypocrisy in my book.
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Bullshit. They work like 100 days a year and make almost 200k from us. This is way worse than welfare.
I wouldn't call it worse than welfare, but overall I agree with you.
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he was just buying cocaine to prevent this cocaine from being available to obama.
therefore his drug buy was, well, kinda heroic.
Lol. That sounds like some of the excuses the guys in the "To Catch A Preditor" say to Chris Hanson.
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I wouldn't call it worse than welfare, but overall I agree with you.
Perhaps if these clowns would do their jobs and legislate and pass bills and compromise more jobs would be
created leading to less people needing welfare and or unemployment.
China's infrastructure spending is something like 10% of their GDP. I believe ours is at 2% if not a little under. Historically,
we are usually somewhere around 4%. A bump back to 4 or higher would do wonders for our economy, unemployment as well
as stagnant wages.
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Perhaps if these clowns would do their jobs and legislate and pass bills and compromise more jobs would be
created leading to less people needing welfare and or unemployment.
China's infrastructure spending is something like 10% of their GDP. I believe ours is at 2% if not a little under. Historically,
we are usually somewhere around 4%. A bump back to 4 or higher would do wonders for our economy, unemployment as well
as stagnant wages.
I think the problem is they passed too much legislation that makes doing business and job creation harder. I would cut their pay, impose term limits, and make them subject to every law they pass.
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Trey Radel was awesome - he supported drug testing for welfare recipients, voted for it... while using coke as a congressman.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/trey-radel-drug-testing_n_4305348.html
some people are just built for the private sector, that's him. He got caught up in the "I hate obama, i love tea party' as a local fox radio host, and was the most well known anti-obama voice in lee county, so he won.
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Maybe he was doing drugs in order to make them less available to others.
LOL!!!
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Perhaps if these clowns would do their jobs and legislate and pass bills and compromise more jobs would be
created leading to less people needing welfare and or unemployment.
China's infrastructure spending is something like 10% of their GDP. I believe ours is at 2% if not a little under. Historically,
we are usually somewhere around 4%. A bump back to 4 or higher would do wonders for our economy, unemployment as well
as stagnant wages.
not a fair comparison as china has to build infrastructure and we are simply maintaining ours as its already built. I would hasten to guess that any country who has risen as quickly as china has is playing catch up in terms of infrastructure.
I can agree with you though as the streets here in Houston are absolute shit!!!
Problem is we already spend 70+% on entitlements, whats china pay? we need to stop spending so much on entitlements and start using it elsewhere or not using it at all and let it stay in the pockets of those who earn it.
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I'm really not worked up about this.
I've done drugs...they're fun. I'm okay with people who have the money to buy them doing them for fun as well.
I'm also okay with telling people "if you can't afford food and need taxpayers to buy it for you, then you shouldn't have money for drugs."
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LOL!!!
Haha..:D
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I'm really not worked up about this.
I've done drugs...they're fun. I'm okay with people who have the money to buy them doing them for fun as well.
I'm also okay with telling people "if you can't afford food and need taxpayers to buy it for you, then you shouldn't have money for drugs."
Do you think FOR ONE MINUTE that Radel would have endorsed the idea that people break the law and use drugs, doison?
We know that he would endorse the idea that someone be forced to suffer if they do that. We also know he wouldn't have passed the drug test that he wanted for others, don't we?
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Personally, I LOVE the idea that anyone receiving public $ should be able to pass a drug test.
They don't drug test teachers, cops or politicians, for the most part, right? Cops can SHOOT someone and we never see the blood work. You have to piss in a cup to work at McDonalds, but not to be in congress, making the decisions that can wreck our entire country?
Makes no sense. If you hold public office, you should be willing to stay the fck off illegal drugs.
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I'm really not worked up about this.
I've done drugs...they're fun. I'm okay with people who have the money to buy them doing them for fun as well.
I'm also okay with telling people "if you can't afford food and need taxpayers to buy it for you, then you shouldn't have money for drugs."
If he was a Congressman when he bought drugs, then he used taxpayer money to buy drugs.
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He was on food stamps?
this!
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He's a government employee receiving government benefits just likes those on public assistance.
you dont know the difference between "employee" "elected official" and a scumbag lazy sub human on "public assistance"....really?
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Personally, I LOVE the idea that anyone receiving public $ should be able to pass a drug test.
They don't drug test teachers, cops or politicians, for the most part, right? Cops can SHOOT someone and we never see the blood work. You have to piss in a cup to work at McDonalds, but not to be in congress, making the decisions that can wreck our entire country?
Makes no sense. If you hold public office, you should be willing to stay the fck off illegal drugs.
Exactly. If he didn't want to use the drug-testing measures to try to ensure that some standard was being met: then why did he want it?
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you dont know the difference between "employee" "elected official" and a scumbag lazy sub human on "public assistance"....really?
You're describing politicians.
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You're describing politicians.
I concede your point....
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you dont know the difference between "employee" "elected official" and a scumbag lazy sub human on "public assistance"....really?
You don't know who pays a Congressman's salary? Really?
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I was all in on the "who gives a shit" Train"
But Dos has a point. His stance on drugs makes it look sketchy as hell.
Still, it pisses me off that i know people who use my tax money to buy drugs.
ITs not quite the same because one is a salary and one is a handout.
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You don't know who pays a Congressman's salary? Really?
elected official vs beggar (welfare recipient) both get tax dollars....but sad that you fail to see a difference, REALLY!
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elected official vs beggar (welfare recipient) both get tax dollars....but sad that you fail to see a difference, REALLY!
Obviously one works and the other doesn't, but both are receiving taxpayer money. Both are using taxpayer money to buy drugs. Sad that you fail to make the connection.
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elected official vs beggar (welfare recipient) both get tax dollars....but sad that you fail to see a difference, REALLY!
Dos is taking it one step further i think, and rightfully so. He is techinically PAID by tax dollars, for a job that he completes. But in the grand scheme of things, he gets tax payer money, and uses drugs. The same drugs, for the same money he wants others to test for.
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Obviously one works and the other doesn't, but both are receiving taxpayer money. Both are using taxpayer money to buy drugs. Sad that you fail to make the connection.
yes both use tax dollars, but one gets it as a payment for services rendered after taxpayers agreed and chose to pay him....the other is given money AT THE disgust of the taxpayers and without their consent
sad you cant understand that I pay military payrolls happily, but would not give one red cent to the beggars
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He wanted to hold people to a standard that he was failing miserably at.
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Dos is taking it one step further i think, and rightfully so. He is techinically PAID by tax dollars, for a job that he completes. But in the grand scheme of things, he gets tax payer money, and uses drugs. The same drugs, for the same money he wants others to test for.
and he would only be a hypocrite if he voted NO on the drug test for congressmen....which I would support!
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He wanted to hold people to a standard that he was failing miserably at.
When I vote for a congressman I AM saying that I have agreed to pay him from MY money....
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yes both use tax dollars, but one gets it as a payment for services rendered after taxpayers agreed and chose to pay him....the other is given money AT THE disgust of the taxpayers and without their consent
sad you cant understand that I pay military payrolls happily, but would not give one red cent to the beggars
Ok.. heres the deal. One guy gets paid by tax payers, and he buys dope with that tax payer.
And its the same guy that says in order to be eligable for tax dollars you must be drug tested.
Thats pretty cut and dry to me
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and he would only be a hypocrite if he voted NO on the drug test for congressmen....which I would support!
:o
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yes both use tax dollars, but one gets it as a payment for services rendered after taxpayers agreed and chose to pay him....the other is given money AT THE disgust of the taxpayers and without their consent
sad you cant understand that I pay military payrolls happily, but would not give one red cent to the beggars
What's sad is that you don't care that a Congressman takes your tax dollars and uses them to buy drugs, while at the time voting for legislation that requires drug testing of welfare recipients. Blatant hypocrisy.
I don't mind having my tax dollars used as a safety net (not a hammock) to help those in need, so I don't pay with disgust. What I do oppose is waste, fraud, and abuse.
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Ok.. heres the deal. One guy gets paid by tax payers, and he buys dope with that tax payer.
And its the same guy that says in order to be eligable for tax dollars you must be drug tested.
Thats pretty cut and dry to me
Yep.
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Ok.. heres the deal. One guy gets paid by tax payers, and he buys dope with that tax payer.
And its the same guy that says in order to be eligable for tax dollars you must be drug tested.
Thats pretty cut and dry to me
One guy receives payment for service...ITS his earned money, we the electorate promised payment for service. He can spend his money on whatever he wishes, lawfully (but that another conversation).
The other beggar, begs us for food and spends it on drugs.
It is cut and dry.
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When I vote for a congressman I AM saying that I have agreed to pay him from MY money....
Do you expect him to live by the same standards he would try to hold others to, particularly when it comes to drug use?
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What's sad is that you don't care that a Congressman takes your tax dollars and uses them to buy drugs, while at the time voting for legislation that requires drug testing of welfare recipients. Blatant hypocrisy.
I don't mind having my tax dollars used as a safety net (not a hammock) to help those in need, so I don't pay with disgust. What I do oppose is waste, fraud, and abuse.
The morality and or legality of his actions is not my point, he should be voted out next term or jailed. His vote IS representing MY opinion, he has done everything his electorate elected him to do!
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One guy receives payment for service...ITS his earned money, we the electorate promised payment for service. He can spend his money on whatever he wishes, lawfully (but that another conversation).
The other beggar, begs us for food and spends it on drugs.
It is cut and dry.
Hell no, it isn't another conversation.
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The morality and or legality of his actions is not my point, he should be voted out next term or jailed. His vote IS representing MY opinion, he has done everything his electorate elected him to do!
Including breaking the law?
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Do you expect him to live by the same standards he would try to hold others to, particularly when it comes to drug use?
He is a representative, defined as representing his constituency he has his job that he gets PAID to do.....my personal opinion is hes stupid, and 99.999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999% of people fail my expectations/standards.
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Hell no, it isn't another conversation.
If you want to talk about the "legal" side of this start a new thread....it'll be a very short thread I think.
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The morality and or legality of his actions is not my point, he should be voted out next term or jailed. His vote IS representing MY opinion, he has done everything his electorate elected him to do!
I didn't say anything about morality.
But legality is the issue. He doesn't want welfare recipients, who receive taxpayer money, to buy illegal drugs. How the heck can you not have a problem with that same guy using taxpayer money to buy illegal drugs??
It sounds like you're saying a public servant can do whatever he or she wants when not on duty. It doesn't work that way. They are in positions of public trust being paid by us. They are held to a higher standard. Or least they should be.
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All you nincompoops would have.....Pedophile congressmen voting against anti-pedophile laws because its hypocritical? lol
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If you want to talk about the "legal" side of this start a new thread....it'll be a very short thread I think.
Wouldn't that be the reason for drug-testing, in the first place?
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I didn't say anything about morality.
But legality is the issue. He doesn't want welfare recipients, who receive taxpayer money, to buy illegal drugs. How the heck can you not have a problem with that same guy using taxpayer money to buy illegal drugs??
It sounds like you're saying a public servant can do whatever he or she wants when not on duty. It doesn't work that way. They are in positions of public trust being paid by us. They are held to a higher standard. Or least they should be.
I said I don't have a problem with HIM VOTING FOR legislation that requires drug test no matter what hes done....If I elected him thats what I expect....
and I DO see a difference between a dollar earned to do with as you will and a dollar given for food to buy drugs
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I said I don't have a problem with HIM VOTING FOR legislation that requires drug test no matter what hes done....If I elected him thats what I expect....
and I DO see a difference between a dollar earned to do with as you will and a dollar given for food to buy drugs
It's not just a dollar earned. It's taxpayer money earned as a public servant.
And nobody, whether they are a public servant or not, can do whatever they want with their money, at least not without consequences.
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Yeah. It's really very simple.
Think of the reasons he'd give, for working toward the things that he did.
Now think about his behavior and his actions.
If it isn't hypocrisy: WHAT is it?
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locally, people kinda knew what they were getting with Radel. He was entertaining, but in a clumsy, ugly kid kinda way. Not the good-looking politician, he had pockmarks and was chunky. More of a "Im competent and nobody else around here running is".
He was shady, he had a history of porn management with his entertainment companies. Nobody really bought into his family values talk, it was just "well, he hates obamacare, and we're a 60% repub county, hes good enough!"
He will be successful in the private world, he did drugs and was nationally disgraced for it. Time to move on from him. The county loves his replacement, Curt Clawson.
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There are reasons to give, when you want to push an idea that foodstamp recipients (or anyone else) should be tested for drugs. And no matter what reasons you give, they'll always stem from the idea that drug-use is unacceptable. Right?
In other words: you can go every which way imaginable, and you will always land on the exact same spot.
Who will deny it?