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Newtown victims' families sue maker of gun used in 2012 attack
http://news.yahoo.com/families-2012-connecticut-shooting-victims-sue-gunmaker-local-161153323.html
And I hope they lose.
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Sigh
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^^^^^^^^^
WTF ARE YOU ON ABOUT? no one mentioned a conspiracy.............. ...............
dumb beyond belief
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They will lose, but it will cost everybody millions in legal fees. The only winners are the lawyers.
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They will lose, but it will cost everybody millions in legal fees. The only winners are the lawyers.
The families are all millionaires now through government and public donations.
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Nothing like cashin' in on your kids death.. ka-ching!
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Nothing like cashin' in on your kids death.. ka-ching!
C'mon lets not start another Michael Brownie thread
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i never used to pay the school killings to much mind,i mean i felt bad for the families ofcoarse but never thought about it to much.now that i have a son in school(3rd grade) and he made priciples list again this semester for straight A,s,he made honor roll also.anyway i get nervous man about shit like that,im sure u guys with kids think about it sometimes also.i mean i dont dwell on it but it does cross my mind
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i never used to pay the school killings to much mind,i mean i felt bad for the families ofcoarse but never thought about it to much.now that i have a son in school(3rd grade) and he made priciples list again this semester for straight A,s,he made honor roll also.anyway i get nervous man about shit like that,im sure u guys with kids think about it sometimes also.i mean i dont dwell on it but it does cross my mind
Well you can feel safe knowing that his school is a NO GUN ZONE, where all law abiding citizens will be unarmed.
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Well you can feel safe knowing that his school is a NO GUN ZONE and only bad guys at his school will have guns.
hes in a decent school(charter school)they teach spanish/english and the school just opened in 2010,brand new.
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I was a teacher a decade ago. It was during a time when nationally, school violence was an issue. I'm a huge "concealed carry permit" guy. And I was never able to carry on campus, even though I worked at one of the toughest schools in this part of the state. Some of my students had arrests for serious crimes, and violence was sometimes their first option. They talked about weapons all of the time, as it was middle school and they're little grownups at that point. When a poor, angry kid from a violent home starts puberty, they can really be unpredictable. Put 30+ of them in a small classroom, it can be a powder keg.
All you can do as a teacher is smile, pray for the best, and prepare every way you can, inside the system. I always placed my steel desk at the best strategic angle to the door. I kept a spare flagpole and more importantly, a chunk of cinder block (used by the previous teacher as a door jam) handy, to use in case I had to protect this room full of students from a shooter on campus. And if I ever heard shots on campus, I would ORDER every student in that class to ATTACK that shooter the moment they entered - and I'd be leading that charge! I might catch a bullet in the belly, but the group will take that shooter down.
it wasn't perfect, not by any measure. BUT if every teacher had this kind of aggressive plan - where the shooter KNEW he woudl be getting his head beat in, even if he took a few people down first - then people might not try such madness. I admire the school workers that took down that recent shooter earlier this year. Would love to see more of that - these are the biggest heroes of our society.
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I was a teacher a decade ago. It was during a time when nationally, school violence was an issue. I'm a huge "concealed carry permit" guy. And I was never able to carry on campus, even though I worked at one of the toughest schools in this part of the state. Some of my students had arrests for serious crimes, and violence was sometimes their first option. They talked about weapons all of the time, as it was middle school and they're little grownups at that point. When a poor, angry kid from a violent home starts puberty, they can really be unpredictable. Put 30+ of them in a small classroom, it can be a powder keg.
All you can do as a teacher is smile, pray for the best, and prepare every way you can, inside the system. I always placed my steel desk at the best strategic angle to the door. I kept a spare flagpole and more importantly, a chunk of cinder block (used by the previous teacher as a door jam) handy, to use in case I had to protect this room full of students from a shooter on campus. And if I ever heard shots on campus, I would ORDER every student in that class to ATTACK that shooter the moment they entered - and I'd be leading that charge! I might catch a bullet in the belly, but the group will take that shooter down.
it wasn't perfect, not by any measure. BUT if every teacher had this kind of aggressive plan - where the shooter KNEW he woudl be getting his head beat in, even if he took a few people down first - then people might not try such madness. I admire the school workers that took down that recent shooter earlier this year. Would love to see more of that - these are the biggest heroes of our society.
damn man thats a horrible way to go to a job everyday dealing with that atmosphere :( that can drive a persons nervous system over the edge) did anything ever happen when u where there or even after u left as far as stabbings or shootings?
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damn man thats a horrible way to go to a job everyday dealing with that atmosphere :( that can drive a persons nervous system over the edge) did anything ever happen when u where there or even after u left as far as stabbings or shootings?
Cops die young from stress - they're a target every day - but they get to carry a gun, wear a vest, etc. As a teacher, I was legally able to keep gun on campus (in vehicle only), so I would park as close to classroom as possible - BUT in reality I knew if there was a shooter it would most likely be me facing him unarmed.
We were the last school students attended before being moved to the alternative center - we had 1 cop on campus, but it was almost a mile campus from corner to corner, so you knew you'd be on your own for a few minutes if shooting started. We had confiscated knives and maybe 2 guns the whole year, but it never went beyond fights with fists, thankfully.
I dislike most parts of life where guns are banned. I avoid those places. I prefer the UPS/local mail store, over the USPS, because legally, you cannot carry in a post office. There are measures in place at schools now, which is nice. They do drills, etc. And with computers, cell phones, etc - response time is probably very quick now. This was a decade ago when I taught. I just tried to prepare and I knew which students, unfortunately, got a little more leeway because their older brother was in jail for shooting someone, etc. You knew guns were in the home and that wolf was in their blood. Sad, but it's reality. It's a choice you make when you choose this profession. Teachers are braver than they get credit for being.
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maybe if you woudlve taken bodybuilding seriously you would have no problem controlling the class room?
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maybe if you woudlve taken bodybuilding seriously you would have no problem controlling the class room?
I could have deadlifted my way to classroom management success, but I lacked the inner warrior to do so.
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Cops die young from stress - they're a target every day - but they get to carry a gun, wear a vest, etc. As a teacher, I was legally able to keep gun on campus (in vehicle only), so I would park as close to classroom as possible - BUT in reality I knew if there was a shooter it would most likely be me facing him unarmed.
We were the last school students attended before being moved to the alternative center - we had 1 cop on campus, but it was almost a mile campus from corner to corner, so you knew you'd be on your own for a few minutes if shooting started. We had confiscated knives and maybe 2 guns the whole year, but it never went beyond fights with fists, thankfully.
I dislike most parts of life where guns are banned. I avoid those places. I prefer the UPS/local mail store, over the USPS, because legally, you cannot carry in a post office. There are measures in place at schools now, which is nice. They do drills, etc. And with computers, cell phones, etc - response time is probably very quick now. This was a decade ago when I taught. I just tried to prepare and I knew which students, unfortunately, got a little more leeway because their older brother was in jail for shooting someone, etc. You knew guns were in the home and that wolf was in their blood. Sad, but it's reality. It's a choice you make when you choose this profession. Teachers are braver than they get credit for being.
in my old highschool u would hear of teachers getting stabbed,jumped ect cause they sent a letter home and the kid got introuble,or confronted a kid/kids for being in hallway or not being in class.teachers would come and go quick cause of the violence and that hurt the good kids that really wanted to learn
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you dont need to concealed carry permit for these guns
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hes in a decent school(charter school)they teach spanish/english and the school just opened in 2010,brand new.
I'm happy he has a good school. A good school can give a kid the edge.
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I'm happy he has a good school. A good school can give a kid the edge.
thanks man,i sat with him 2 hours last night helping him with homework. im gonna do my best to make sure he doesnt end up like me, so far so good with him though
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Idiots ::)
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I wonder if the kids had been stabbed instead of shot the parents would be suing the company that made the knives...
If they had been run over by a Ford truck they would be suing Ford...
Killed by box cutters suing UPS...
killed by lightning suing science...
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If there were no victims who wants to sue who and for what?
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Goddam guns floating through space and firing on people all by themselves.
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Lawyers will take just about any case. Lawyers are scum.
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Lawyers will take just about any case. Lawyers are scum.
Yes, and the same scum become our Judges and Politicians. And the dumb police are their eager dogs.
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I wonder if the kids had been stabbed instead of shot the parents would be suing the company that made the knives...
If they had been run over by a Ford truck they would be suing Ford...
Killed by box cutters suing UPS...
killed by lightning suing science...
Of course not. These families have been drafted into a movement that is using the dead bodies of their children to take the rights away from law abiding citizens. They know they will lose the lawsuit. They are just trying to do damage to gun manufactures by costing them a ton of money on legal fees. They hope that eventually these kind of suits will cripple the manufactures, force them out of business or intimidate them into changing the way they do business.
Right out of the liberal playbook. They can't get their way by convincing people that they are right with a logical, fact based arguments. They can't get the laws changed using the methods that are in place to do it legally and ethically. So....they find a martyr to hold up to play on peoples emotions. Then they come up with some back handed scheme that will accomplish their goal in a shady, long, round about way. I have nothing but harsh words for these scumbags. The liberal activists, the scumbag lawyers and the parents. Fuck all these people.
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Of course not. These families have been drafted into a movement that is using the dead bodies of their children to take the rights away from law abiding citizens. They know they will lose the lawsuit. They are just trying to do damage to gun manufactures by costing them a ton of money on legal fees. They hope that eventually these kind of suits will cripple the manufactures, force them out of business or intimidate them into changing the way they do business.
Right out of the liberal playbook. They can't get their way by convincing people that they are right with a logical, fact based arguments. They can't get the laws changed using the methods that are in place to do it legally and ethically. So....they find a martyr to hold up to play on peoples emotions. Then they come up with some back handed scheme that will accomplish their goal in a shady, long, round about way. I have nothing but harsh words for these scumbags. The liberal activists, the scumbag lawyers and the parents. Fuck all these people.
very eloquently said!
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Why didn't the parents sue the shrinks that misdiagnosed that skull faced paranoid psychotic, as having Asperger's Syndrome, because his rich family could "shop around" for a more socially acceptable "diagnosis," so their nut job son wouldn't be put in a rubber room, where he deserved to be?
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Why didn't the parents sue the shrinks that misdiagnosed that skull faced paranoid psychotic, as having Asperger's Syndrome, because his rich family could "shop around" for a more socially acceptable "diagnosis," so their nut job son wouldn't be put in a rubber room, where he deserved to be?
His shrink was up for sex charges against his other clients, and ran away to New Zealand.
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very eloquently said!
I thank you.
It's a shame, but in this world there will always be sociopaths or people that are mentally ill in some way. Murderous lunatics with no regard for human life. There is no ban or law that could be passed that will stop this. People need to face that reality rather than blaming inanimate objects.
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All you can do as a teacher is smile, pray for the best, and prepare every way you can, inside the system. I always placed my steel desk at the best strategic angle to the door. I kept a spare flagpole and more importantly, a chunk of cinder block (used by the previous teacher as a door jam) handy, to use in case I had to protect this room full of students from a shooter on campus. And if I ever heard shots on campus, I would ORDER every student in that class to ATTACK that shooter the moment they entered - and I'd be leading that charge! I might catch a bullet in the belly, but the group will take that shooter down.
it wasn't perfect, not by any measure. BUT if every teacher had this kind of aggressive plan - where the shooter KNEW he woudl be getting his head beat in, even if he took a few people down first - then people might not try such madness. I admire the school workers that took down that recent shooter earlier this year. Would love to see more of that - these are the biggest heroes of our society.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/middle-school-canned-food-intruder_n_6465052.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Middle School Principal: Let Students Hurl Canned Food To 'Stun' Intruders
VALLEY, Ala. (AP) — A middle school principal in eastern Alabama wants to stockpile cans of food such as corn and peas in classrooms so that students could hurl them as weapons in a last-resort confrontation with a school intruder.
In a letter Friday, W.F. Burns Middle School Principal Priscella Holley asked parents to have each student bring an 8-ounce canned item.
"We realize at first this may seem odd; however, it is a practice that would catch an intruder off guard," she wrote in the letter, published by TV station WHNT in Huntsville.
"The canned food item could stun the intruder or even knock him out until the police arrive," Holley wrote. "The canned food item will give the students a sense of empowerment to protect themselves and will make them feel secure in case an intruder enters their classroom."
The school is in Valley, Alabama, part of the Chambers County school system.
The letter was sent after school employees received training from Auburn University's Department of Public Safety, Chambers County Schools Superintendent Kelli Hodge told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday.
The food cans would be stored in classrooms and students wouldn't be carrying them around school, Hodge said.
Using cans or other items as weapons would be a last resort for students unable to evacuate, Hodge told the AP.
Teachers are taught to barricade classroom doors if an intruder is in the school, but if that fails, the cans and items such as textbooks could be used, she said.
"If somebody is going to force their way through, then as the last resort you would start throwing any objects you could get your hands on," Hodge said.
Asked whether throwing cans of food could make a student a target, Hodge said they would already be a target at that point.
"If it comes to the situation that they are forced to do that, then they are a target because they've not been able to evacuate," she said.
If the cans are not needed for security, they will be donated to a local food pantry at the end of the year, Holley told parents.
"We hope the canned food items will never be used or needed, but it is best to be prepared," she wrote.
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Suing fork manufacturer.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/middle-school-canned-food-intruder_n_6465052.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Middle School Principal: Let Students Hurl Canned Food To 'Stun' Intruders
VALLEY, Ala. (AP) — A middle school principal in eastern Alabama wants to stockpile cans of food such as corn and peas in classrooms so that students could hurl them as weapons in a last-resort confrontation with a school intruder.
In a letter Friday, W.F. Burns Middle School Principal Priscella Holley asked parents to have each student bring an 8-ounce canned item.
"We realize at first this may seem odd; however, it is a practice that would catch an intruder off guard," she wrote in the letter, published by TV station WHNT in Huntsville.
"The canned food item could stun the intruder or even knock him out until the police arrive," Holley wrote. "The canned food item will give the students a sense of empowerment to protect themselves and will make them feel secure in case an intruder enters their classroom."
The school is in Valley, Alabama, part of the Chambers County school system.
The letter was sent after school employees received training from Auburn University's Department of Public Safety, Chambers County Schools Superintendent Kelli Hodge told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday.
The food cans would be stored in classrooms and students wouldn't be carrying them around school, Hodge said.
Using cans or other items as weapons would be a last resort for students unable to evacuate, Hodge told the AP.
Teachers are taught to barricade classroom doors if an intruder is in the school, but if that fails, the cans and items such as textbooks could be used, she said.
"If somebody is going to force their way through, then as the last resort you would start throwing any objects you could get your hands on," Hodge said.
Asked whether throwing cans of food could make a student a target, Hodge said they would already be a target at that point.
"If it comes to the situation that they are forced to do that, then they are a target because they've not been able to evacuate," she said.
If the cans are not needed for security, they will be donated to a local food pantry at the end of the year, Holley told parents.
"We hope the canned food items will never be used or needed, but it is best to be prepared," she wrote.
Great Idea!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/middle-school-canned-food-intruder_n_6465052.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Middle School Principal: Let Students Hurl Canned Food To 'Stun' Intruders
VALLEY, Ala. (AP) — A middle school principal in eastern Alabama wants to stockpile cans of food such as corn and peas in classrooms so that students could hurl them as weapons in a last-resort confrontation with a school intruder.
In a letter Friday, W.F. Burns Middle School Principal Priscella Holley asked parents to have each student bring an 8-ounce canned item.
"We realize at first this may seem odd; however, it is a practice that would catch an intruder off guard," she wrote in the letter, published by TV station WHNT in Huntsville.
"The canned food item could stun the intruder or even knock him out until the police arrive," Holley wrote. "The canned food item will give the students a sense of empowerment to protect themselves and will make them feel secure in case an intruder enters their classroom."
The school is in Valley, Alabama, part of the Chambers County school system.
The letter was sent after school employees received training from Auburn University's Department of Public Safety, Chambers County Schools Superintendent Kelli Hodge told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday.
The food cans would be stored in classrooms and students wouldn't be carrying them around school, Hodge said.
Using cans or other items as weapons would be a last resort for students unable to evacuate, Hodge told the AP.
Teachers are taught to barricade classroom doors if an intruder is in the school, but if that fails, the cans and items such as textbooks could be used, she said.
"If somebody is going to force their way through, then as the last resort you would start throwing any objects you could get your hands on," Hodge said.
Asked whether throwing cans of food could make a student a target, Hodge said they would already be a target at that point.
"If it comes to the situation that they are forced to do that, then they are a target because they've not been able to evacuate," she said.
If the cans are not needed for security, they will be donated to a local food pantry at the end of the year, Holley told parents.
"We hope the canned food items will never be used or needed, but it is best to be prepared," she wrote.
What a fucking moron.
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Only the football kids on steroids will be able to throw the cans hard enough to injure the outcast assailant who ironically will probably be targeting the jocks anyway.
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Ugh, the gun nuts in America. Just destroying our country one horrific massacre at a time. Please go away.
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There's been a lot of shootings in the US. Way more than elsewhere. How do we stop this?
You know what we really need? Lots more guns!
Americalogic.
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Viva la guns!!! :D
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Viva la guns!!! :D
I own a 4.5 ton Soviet made milling machine! Your argument is invalidated!
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I was always thinking out of the box in High School, slept with my Guidance Councillor Ms. Honey and then I joined the Army 2 weeks after I graduated!! :D