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Title: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 18, 2014, 09:24:17 PM
I am largely rehabbed from my hernia surgery of 9/13, having taken couple months off, then a light month, before pushing more. Finally Squatting 545 for reps again to parallel after supersetting Nautilus leg extensions and Vertical Leg presses. Several light to moderate- (<50%) before the working HIT sets. Not far off my best, but no longer going for extreme poundages. I don't think I need it anymore. At 54, I haven't seen the kind of fall off in leg training that I was led to expect. Maybe at 60+??
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2014, 09:33:43 PM
Hit legs Tuesday.

Squats= working sets 365 x 3 x 10. Drop set of 225 x 1 x 25
Leg curls 4 x 15+.
Walked the stairs carrying 45 pound DB's 4 times up and down
Walking lunges across the basketball court. Long stride 4 times across.

Minimal rest between sets. When I finish a set my training partner goes. Repeat.

I'm 53.  A little TRT.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 18, 2014, 09:42:29 PM
Hit legs Tuesday.

Squats= working sets 365 x 3 x 10. Drop set of 225 x 1 x 25
Leg curls 4 x 15+.
Walked the stairs carrying 45 pound DB's 4 times up and down
Walking lunges across the basketball court. Long stride 4 times across.

Minimal rest between sets. When I finish a set my training partner goes. Repeat.

I'm 53.  A little TRT.
Rather in line with the gist of my post, then?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2014, 09:51:49 PM
Rather in line with the gist of my post, then?

Very much so.   Super setting extensions with vertical leg press... Ouch. That's not any fun at any time.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 18, 2014, 09:57:35 PM
Very much so.   Super setting extensions with vertical leg press... Ouch. That's not any fun at any time.
Honestly, it hurts.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: WalterWhite on December 18, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
A recent leg workout. I have two spinal injuries so I no longer squat.

Single leg extensions 5 sets each leg x 20reps to fatigue quads.
Single leg leg press 5 sets 20 reps. One set is 20/20 then add a 45 to each side and repeat (100 reps each leg total).
Single leg glutes kick back press 5 sets 10reps/set
Adduction Inner thigh 4 sets 12 reps/set
Stiff leg deadlifts using dumbbells 4 sets 10 reps/set
Seated calve raises 4 sets 30 reps

I move quickly with very little rest and mix up different movements like walking lunges and reverse hacks.

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Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Nick Danger on December 18, 2014, 10:11:47 PM
I split legs into 2 days but I squat both days. On my heavy day I usually get to 455lbs for a couple of good, deep reps. I've never squatted over 500lbs even in my younger years.
A few months short of 50 years old. 12 weeks 500ml test , 200ml since then.    ( 4 months)
Walking lunges (with barbell) is a killer now...
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 18, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
Vascular as a cock WW.  Nice work.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 18, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
GREAT stuff guys!  Thank you!
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 18, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
I split legs into 2 days but I squat both days. On my heavy day I usually get to 455lbs for a couple of good, deep reps. I've never squatted over 500lbs even in my younger years.
A few months short of 50 years old. 12 weeks 500ml test , 200ml since then.    ( 4 months)
Walking lunges (with barbell) is a killer now...
Nick is that HRT compounded or UGL?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: WalterWhite on December 18, 2014, 11:30:00 PM
Vascular as a cock WW.  Nice work.

Thankfully from my powerlifting days my quads have held up pretty well without squatting Tommy.

High volume seems to bring the veins out. The single leg 100 rep leg presses are a killer!

Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Nick Danger on December 19, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
Nick is that HRT compounded or UGL?

When I  told my doc about my 500 ml weekly(UGL), he finally gave in and allowed me to get on prescribed HRT.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: _aj_ on December 19, 2014, 08:13:22 AM
When I  told my doc about my 500 ml weekly(UGL), he finally gave in and allowed me to get on prescribed HRT.

Half a liter of gear per week!

Big diff between 500mg/week and 125mg/3 weeks (standard TRT). Notice a huge difference?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Nick Danger on December 19, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
Half a liter of gear per week!

Big diff between 500mg/week and 125mg/3 weeks (standard TRT). Notice a huge difference?

Ya I meant mgs...Doc wanted 125mg / 10 days. We met @ 200/ weekly. I told him I would take 200 either way.

I don't really notice much difference, as long as I keep my diet clean.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 19, 2014, 08:52:25 AM
bullshit no way you can train and still got time to post all those pictures
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 19, 2014, 08:57:12 AM
Ya I meant mgs...Doc wanted 125mg / 10 days. We met @ 200/ weekly. I told him I would take 200 either way.

I don't really notice much difference, as long as I keep my diet clean.

I work with 200 mg's every four (4) days. A bit above standard TRT protocol but not by much.  Either Cyp or enth depending.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: _aj_ on December 19, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
I work with 200 mg's every four (4) days. A bit above standard TRT protocol but not by much.  Either Cyp or enth depending.

And that's a prescribed TRT dose? I am doing 250/week of enan. Your TRT seem like more juice than my baby-dose.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2014, 09:03:23 AM
46 yrs

normal wkout

leg press x4 last work set 7/8 plates per side
squat or hack ,,if i squat 225/275/315/365/405  ,,hacks 5/6 plates
walking lunges 50 ls dbells walk or 80lbs premade bar or stairs holding 45's plates x2  go up/down/up/down
extensions x3 up to 235/250 on stack 12-15 reps

hams
sldl 135-245 4 sets total
leg curls x3

calves
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 19, 2014, 09:05:42 AM
And that's a prescribed TRT dose? I am doing 250/week of enan. Your TRT seem like more juice than my baby-dose.

 ;).  It's absolutely not prescribed TRT. It's just my version of TRT.  It seems that 200mg's every seven (7) days is a popular TRT routine actually prescribed by a few doctors here in Northern California.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 19, 2014, 09:09:24 AM
46 yrs

normal wkout

leg press x4 last work set 7/8 plates per side
squat or hack ,,if i squat 225/275/315/365/405  ,,hacks 5/6 plates
walking lunges 50 ls dbells walk or 80lbs premade bar or stairs holding 45's plates x2  go up/down/up/down
extensions x3 up to 235/250 on stack 12-15 reps

hams
sldl 135-245 4 sets total
leg curls x3

calves

Nice workout, good volume.     It's weird, when we finish off with walking lunges we don't find it necessary to use any weight. Weird, I know. Those final sets pump AND burn like crazy.   Years ago I would have laughed at walking lunges with zero weight.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: WalterWhite on December 19, 2014, 09:14:56 AM
Nice workout, good volume.     It's weird, when we finish off with walking lunges we don't find it necessary to use any weight. Weird, I know. Those final sets pump AND burn like crazy.   Years ago I would have laughed at walking lunges with zero weight.

You have a great functional workout especially the stairs.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Nick Danger on December 19, 2014, 09:34:10 AM
bullshit no way you can train and still got time to post all those pictures

Haha, I actually train more than most. 5 or 6 times weekly.
I post while I work, I often have large blocks of free time at night...
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: mazrim on December 19, 2014, 09:38:44 AM
Single leg leg press 5 sets 20 reps. One set is 20/20 then add a 45 to each side and repeat (100 reps each leg total).

I move quickly with very little rest and mix up different movements like walking lunges and reverse hacks.

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So you end up with 4 45lbers on each side or you keep it stagnant at one 45 after first set?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: illuminati on December 19, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
I like to change my squatting style around.
Currently doing Front Squats no belt or knee wraps
Working upto around 350lbs.
Am hoping to get to 400+ for 5reps.

Also like to do wide stance back squats.

Like super sets of leg curls / leg extensions / leg press high reps 50+.

Deadlifts & good mornings.

54yrs young.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 19, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
I like to change my squatting style around.
Currently doing Front Squats no belt or knee wraps
Working upto around 350lbs.
Am hoping to get to 400+ for 5reps.

Also like to do wide stance back squats.

Like super sets of leg curls / leg extensions / leg press high reps 50+.

Deadlifts & good mornings.

54yrs young.

I'm with you on the high rep leg press.  Crazy burn/pump and the low back stays out of the action (unlike with high rep squats)
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 19, 2014, 02:26:48 PM
you putting on any noticeable amount of muscle on your legs or you feel you need to train that much just to maintain what you got?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 19, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
I'll have to say it's more maintaining what size I have, however I am seeing definite gains in separation and hardness.   Functional strength seems to be on the upswing too.   Size?  Not really.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: gracie bjj on December 19, 2014, 02:34:47 PM
i train legs smart and not worry about poundages,at my age i dont want any old injuries sidelining me for afew months from trying to be mr strong guy
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: WalterWhite on December 19, 2014, 02:51:40 PM
So you end up with 4 45lbers on each side or you keep it stagnant at one 45 after first set?

I keep adding a plate. The highest I usually go is four to five on each side.

Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Mawse on December 19, 2014, 03:04:06 PM
Would love to see a video of that 545 for reps "to parallel"  ::)

Nearly 40, recovering from hip surgery I did this for my last squat day

One work set fronts
One work set back
Hammer leg press for volume
Hams, calfs

Everything slow, paused, absolute full ROM, anything to prevent even a hint of ego training
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: 2Thick on December 20, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Do calves and hams the day after delts. Do quads by themselves 3 days later, the day after bis and tris.

Typically 10-12 sets for calves, 8-10 sets for hams, and at least 12-15 sets for quads.

Quad day is my favorite: squats, machine squats, leg presses, and hacks. Fast and heavy, usually done in less than an hour. Have squatted 500 for 3 ass to the grass, but rarely go that heavy anymore.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 20, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
The squat rack may be the worst thing ever to happen to bodybuilders who invariably load it up with too much weight and mess up their backs and knees.

Guys would be better off if they had to get the weight onto their backs from the ground.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: cephissus on December 20, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
you guys are beasts... i do squats with 1 plate a side (couple of sets of 20 reps with very little rest) and that's about all my joints can handle

at 28... lol
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 20, 2014, 09:48:43 PM
I'm not that old but squating isn't practical for me anymore. 

Dumbbell lunges do the trick for me.  I couple them with stiff leg dead lifts and I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 20, 2014, 11:48:42 PM
I do more proportinately on leg extensions- adding up to 170 lbs to tje stack on the Nautilus leg extension- than I do on squats. Not really safe or wise to go much higher on those, but I need one really heavy movement fort quads to grow. High reps and sets just make me tired.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: illuminati on December 21, 2014, 12:27:06 AM
you guys are beasts... i do squats with 1 plate a side (couple of sets of 20 reps with very little rest) and that's about all my joints can handle

at 28... lol












You do squats. 
That's more than most who go to the gym.

Do you use any supplements for your joints.?
I had a huge problem with my knees & elbows
Years ago, I take glucosamine & chondroitin at
Approx 2/3 the label recommend dosage.
Took about 3/6mnths to work fully.
And then zero joint problems.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: falco on December 21, 2014, 03:47:59 AM
Platz still squats with decent weights. He is well over 50.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: wes on December 21, 2014, 07:46:48 AM
I walked from my couch to the fridge 20 X today................... 59 years old!
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 21, 2014, 07:50:35 AM
leg extensions 2x12
legpress 4x10
seated legcurls 3x10
seated calf 2x20
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Grape Ape on December 21, 2014, 08:11:05 AM
Did these in the last week or so - legs were equally sore despite very different set / rep scheme:

Workout one
10 circuits non stop:
10 pullup
10 jumping jacks
20 squat
20 lunge

2 mile walk with 44 pound pack at 14:27 pace

5 circuit non stop:
10 pullup
20 squat
20 kettle bell swing
20 lunge

1 mile walk with 44 pound pack at 13:35 pace


Workout 2
Box squats - 10 sets, 2 reps, 1 min between stets.  Start @ 75% Max, add 5 lbs each set.
5 mile run

Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Natural Man on December 21, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
what s the point of destroying your legs anyways... i only do seated legcurls to stay aehstetic and proportionned with my uper body but the whole huge weights big wheels thing just doesnt make sense.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 21, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
maybe making themselves hurt in the legs is a way to punish themselves
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 21, 2014, 10:09:50 AM
I walked from my couch to the fridge 20 X today................... 59 years old!

There's no way you did that drug free! 
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: njflex on December 21, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
what s the point of destroying your legs anyways... i only do seated legcurls to stay aehstetic and proportionned with my uper body but the whole huge weights big wheels thing just doesnt make sense.
why?you can have big legs and good upper body and still be aesthetic/ideal for your proportions.strong/big legs is great for core and upper body..
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: WalterWhite on December 21, 2014, 03:22:08 PM
why?you can have big legs and good upper body and still be aesthetic/ideal for your proportions.strong/big legs is great for core and upper body..

I agree and also my knees feel better when I work them hard along with blasting calves.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: 2Thick on December 21, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
To each their own, but I've always been bewildered by those who train their upper bodies hard and heavy, spend a fortune on food, sups, even gear, etc - yet do nothing for the lower half of their bodies and walk around with arms as big as their legs.  ???
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 21, 2014, 04:16:25 PM
there will come a time when big legs and tiny upper bodies will be the ideal
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Grape Ape on December 21, 2014, 04:27:44 PM
what s the point of destroying your legs anyways... i only do seated legcurls to stay aehstetic and proportionned with my uper body but the whole huge weights big wheels thing just doesnt make sense.

People train for other things than aesthetics.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 22, 2014, 06:10:46 AM
(http://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/1127/original/Bad-Squat.jpg)


Inzer shirt and everything  :o
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Nick Danger on December 22, 2014, 07:52:24 AM
(http://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/1127/original/Bad-Squat.jpg)


Inzer shirt and everything  :o

This guy knows his stuff...incorporating lunges in his squat routine!
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2014, 08:29:11 AM
I like to keep a 50/50 ratio between Hamstrings and Quads. Some people tend to work quads more and throw in some leg curls in at the end. Lunges do hit Hammies ;D very well but i hate them and prefer step ups on a bench. I like..

Squats 4 sets
Seated leg curls 4 sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff deads 4 sets.
Calves..4/5 sets

Step ups i throw in now and again. I donīt get overly concerned with say standing leg curls and see no need to do them and seated/lying leg curls like i have seen some doing.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 22, 2014, 08:52:59 AM
most people have pathetic hamstring development
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Papper on December 22, 2014, 12:49:03 PM
I focus more on hams because quads are overpowering.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 22, 2014, 03:25:47 PM
i work out legs every 4 days.

that means i will be sore in my ass pretty much all the time, when it almost stopped i hit it again with another day of leg training. i think this is the best training schedule.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Natural Man on December 22, 2014, 04:03:25 PM
People train for other things than aesthetics.
good for them, but they shouldnt complain about destroyed knees when hitting  old age then. We all train for aesthetic and to release stress, it's obviously better than doing nothing at all, but it's also better than going the extreme route with steroids and ridiculously intense training. Balance... extremes are bad..
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: wes on December 22, 2014, 04:14:17 PM
There's no way you did that drug free! 
Let`s not make assumptions my friend!!

Current cycle that enables me to perform this astounding feat several times per day with short rest periods is a closely guarded secret.   :D
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Grape Ape on December 22, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
good for them, but they shouldnt complain about destroyed knees when hitting  old age then. We all train for aesthetic and to release stress, it's obviously better than doing nothing at all, but it's also better than going the extreme route with steroids and ridiculously intense training. Balance... extremes are bad..

All good.

And completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Belieber on December 22, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
i work out legs every 4 days.

that means i will be sore in my ass pretty much all the time, when it almost stopped i hit it again with another day of leg training. i think this is the best training schedule.

Overtraining, unless using a minimum 2 scoops of Muscletech Cell Tech Performance Series.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: thegamechanger on December 22, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
Overtraining, unless using a minimum 2 scoops of Muscletech Cell Tech Performance Series.

2 it is, thanks!
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: O.Z. on December 22, 2014, 09:49:15 PM
I split legs into 2 days but I squat both days. On my heavy day I usually get to 455lbs for a couple of good, deep reps. I've never squatted over 500lbs even in my younger years.
A few months short of 50 years old. 12 weeks 500ml test , 200ml since then.    ( 4 months)
Walking lunges (with barbell) is a killer now...


think about your spine. Is it worth to squat 455 for 2 reps at age of 50?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Viking11 on December 22, 2014, 09:53:47 PM
there will come a time when big legs and tiny upper bodies will be the ideal
This is known as a woman.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Leatherneck on December 22, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
Nobody is doing front squats on a Swiss ball at this age?
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Nick Danger on December 22, 2014, 10:18:22 PM

think about your spine. Is it worth to squat 455 for 2 reps at age of 50?

I've got a bad back, squatting doesn't hurt it at all...
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: tommywishbone on December 22, 2014, 10:43:23 PM
Nobody is doing front squats on a Swiss ball at this age?

 ;D LOL.   Stopped those at 49. 
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: Leatherneck on December 23, 2014, 11:46:50 AM
I thought you'd be the one, Tommy.
Title: Re: Leg workouts over 40-or 50..
Post by: 2Thick on December 23, 2014, 12:48:05 PM
The way I do the squatting and leg pressing movements on "quad" day work the hell out of my hams and glutes as well. I use a med-wide stance, toes pointed out, feet out in front / high on the platform, etc.

I've never had any serious hip, knee, or back issues. I never use wraps, and use a belt only when I need it. I put the belt on right before doing a heavy set and take it off as soon as the set is completed.

I do 3-5 warmup sets of squats, then do the 12-15 work sets for quads. I typically work up to around 405-425 for 6-8 reps, then go down to 315-335 for a burnout set of 15-20 reps. From there I count all of the other sets on the remaining several exercises as work sets.

Quads, hams, and glutes have grown like weeds for me from day 1. Calves are genetically weak but decent, but are noticeably overpowered by the rest.