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Title: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 08:09:07 PM
http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/new-york-city-police-officers-turn-their-backs-mayor-after-shooting_821970.html
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Schnauzer on December 20, 2014, 08:14:33 PM
Sources told the Post the union is angry that the mayor did not show more support for the NYPD after a grand jury decided not to indict the officer involved in the death of Staten Islander Eric Garner.

In a press conference about the grand jury’s decision not to charge the officer, de Blasio announced that he had warned his 17-year-old, mixed-race son, Dante, to be careful around police officers, which caused PBA President Patrick Lynch to claim de Blasio had thrown NYPD officers “under the bus.”

 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/14/nyc-police-officers-want-deblasio-banned-from-funerals/  (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/14/nyc-police-officers-want-deblasio-banned-from-funerals/)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 08:16:22 PM
It's a free fucking country, he's mayor but he's also a citizen. Police need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. Nobody cares what a cop thinks. They aren't paid to think, they protect and serve. It's not a choice for them.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Schnauzer on December 20, 2014, 08:18:47 PM
It's a free fucking country, he's mayor but he's also a citizen. Police need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. Nobody cares what a cop thinks. They aren't paid to think, they protect and serve. It's not a choice for them.

Yes it is, and the police can express themselves freely just like anyone else.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: woodman on December 20, 2014, 08:19:02 PM
Broadstreetbruisrt..shut your fuck in pinhole..cops don't get paid to be hit,assaulted,or killed..frig off with your logic
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
Yes it is, and the police can express themselves freely just like anyone else.

They can do it as citizens. The mayor was saying that as a father, not as the mayor. They dont' need to get on a podium and cry about it.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2014, 08:25:27 PM
I have warned everyone for a lng time what disaster diblAsio was going to be


F him and f obamafag and Sharpton
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Schnauzer on December 20, 2014, 08:25:56 PM
They can do it as citizens. The mayor was saying that as a father, not as the mayor. They dont' need to get on a podium and cry about it.

Actually the mayor said it in a public statement, in his role as mayor and not as a father.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 20, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
They can do it as citizens. The mayor was saying that as a father, not as the mayor. They dont' need to get on a podium and cry about it.

Pigs protect pigs no matter what. It does not matter how clear-cut the evidence is. You can have overwhelming evidence of police brutality, and other pigs will always take the sides of the other pigs. Its a sick allegiance.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 08:28:18 PM
No, I'm saying him telling his son that. he didnt' go "i'm the mayor and so like ya know....."

I'm a Marine, I would never walk up to a citizen while in uniform and advocate a point of view or shoot down something I don't like. I'd say it in plain clothes. You don't use your job or profession as your platform to posture for the press.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 08:30:57 PM
They can do it as citizens. The mayor was saying that as a father, not as the mayor. They dont' need to get on a podium and cry about it.

Deblasio didn't need to say shit about his son and bring him into it. If you don't have the support of the mayor and in this case, obama, Sharpton and holder as well.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
Pigs protect pigs no matter what. It does not matter how clear-cut the evidence is. You can have overwhelming evidence of police brutality, and other pigs will always take the sides of the other pigs. Its a sick allegiance.

So what you're saying is that you support this murder. You support until you need one to protect your ass.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2014, 08:32:29 PM
Posted on December 20, 2014 at 11:08:04 PM EST by maggief

Mayor de Blasio held court on Friday with ringleaders of the city protests that have led to cop assaults and other mayhem — lending a sympathetic ear as they ticked off their demands.

Hizzoner had tried to keep the location of his meeting with the members of Justice League NYC a secret, but reporters discovered it was at the Midtown offices of a union connected to the one that employs a man charged with busting an NYPD lieutenant’s nose on the Brooklyn Bridge.

“They have a list of demands, some which I agree with, some which I don’t,” de Blasio said as he left the confab at 1199 SEIU’s headquarters.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
So what you're saying is that you support this murder. You support until you need one to protect your ass.

No, not in the least. I'm saying that cops shouldn't ever be taking a position against public officials using freedom of speech or against citizentry because they don't think it's right.
No person thinks killing cops is okay.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 08:39:34 PM
No, not in the least. I'm saying that cops shouldn't ever be taking a position against public officials using freedom of speech or against citizentry because they don't think it's right.
No person thinks killing cops is okay.

You have mayor who is against cops. It's also that mayors responsibility to protect the cops as the cops have duty to protect him. The cops will have the professional integrity to protect him but I promise if something should happen, no tear will be shed.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 08:45:06 PM
You have mayor who is against cops. It's also that mayors responsibility to protect the cops as the cops have duty to protect him. The cops will have the professional integrity to protect him but I promise if something should happen, no tear will be shed.

Explain where or how it says a Mayor protects the police? Enlighten me, seriously and I will cede this argument in your favor. Show me where he said "I'm against cops"
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 20, 2014, 08:45:46 PM
So what you're saying is that you support this murder. You support until you need one to protect your ass.

Read my post again, genius.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: woodman on December 20, 2014, 08:52:55 PM
Guy is a total douche bag...by the time he is done NyC will be back in the wild west shoot um up days..him,his cumber ya ya,Afro wearing son need towage the fuck up
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Guy is a total douche bag...by the time he is done NyC will be back in the wild west shoot um up days..him,his cumber ya ya,Afro wearing son need towage the fuck up

Feel free to call him up and give him some pointers. You are capable of running one of the largest cities in the world right?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
??? 

Doesn't EVERY parent tell their kids to be super careful around cops?   WTF is the outrage?

I'm a bald, white dude, and you bet your silly ass that I keep my hands on the wheel, I keep my papers ready, and when a cop asks me to reach for something, I verbally repeat the order and move SLOWLY for my papers, etc.   I've ever said "I just want to make sure you don't get startled and cap my ass" lol, and the cop laughed too.  Cause it happens!   

it's not a race thing - it's a "cop with itchy trigger fingers if a tire backfires or I sneeze while reaching for my insurance papers" kinda thing.  Only a FOOL doesn't tell their kids to be slow, careful, and all that, when around cops.  They have guns, they're under high stress, and they lie on police reports sometimes...   

So what's the outrage?  "be careful around cops!" isn't about race, it's about surprising a stressed out liar with a glock.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Rhino on December 20, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
???  

Doesn't EVERY parent tell their kids to be super careful around cops?   WTF is the outrage?

I'm a bald, white dude, and you bet your silly ass that I keep my hands on the wheel, I keep my papers ready, and when a cop asks me to reach for something, I verbally repeat the order and move SLOWLY for my papers, etc.   I've ever said "I just want to make sure you don't get startled and cap my ass" lol, and the cop laughed too.  Cause it happens!  

it's not a race thing - it's a "cop with itchy trigger fingers if a tire backfires or I sneeze while reaching for my insurance papers" kinda thing.  Only a FOOL doesn't tell their kids to be slow, careful, and all that, when around cops.  They have guns, they're under high stress, and they lie on police reports sometimes...  

So what's the outrage?  "be careful around cops!" isn't about race, it's about surprising a stressed out liar with a glock.


Yeah... just be calm and shut the fuck up. Then there wont be any problem.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 20, 2014, 09:06:59 PM
Feel free to call him up and give him some pointers. You are capable of running one of the largest cities in the world right?

Diblasio is a fantasyland liberal idiot. He ran on a campaign of denouncing the very policies that led to the biggest reduction of crime in nyc in half a century; his reasoning?? 'Everything is racist'   ::)

This is a genuine socialist, far left moron and is naive as they come. He chose to openly side with the racist protestors and agitators who are blocking off major highways, looting and burning small businesses, and OPENLY CALLING FOR DEAD COPS.

Just like obama, this liberal clown is gonna leave his city more divided and riddled with crime and racial tensions than it has seen in decades.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:08:32 PM
You have mayor who is against cops.

Is he against cops because "de Blasio announced that he had warned his 17-year-old, mixed-race son, Dante, to be careful around police officers"

???

Or did he do something else?   If he did something else, share it.  But EVERY smart parent tells their kids to be careful around cops.  It's common fcking sense.  Cops hear a sneeze or you reach too fast for wallet, and no matter what color you are, you can end up with a bullet in your ass, and a false charge on paper stapled to you as you bleed.

only an IDIOT doesn't tell their kids to move slowly, think things out, slow down, obey every law, hold your damn tongue, and above all, BE CAREFUL around cops.    Seriously, I was telling my kid the other day "When daddy gets stopped, daddy keeps hands on wheel and glock in fanny and I don't touch ANYTHING - cops are stressed and you don't give them a reason to make a mistake.  


too many cowboys on getbig that don't carry guns in real life lol
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:10:03 PM


Yeah... just be come and shut the fuck up. Then there wont be any problem.

BUT most kids need to hear this.  Their role models, on tv, or music, etc, might be idiots saying "fight the power" and protesting and acting the fool.

Kids NEED an adult to say to them "dude, cops are stressed, they carry guns, they will cover for each other, and they do accidentally shoot many people each year."

UNLESS mayor said some other anti-police shit, this sounds like drama queens getting riled up, looking to be offended.   
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Rhino on December 20, 2014, 09:11:32 PM
BUT most kids need to hear this.  Their role models, on tv, or music, etc, might be idiots saying "fight the power" and protesting and acting the fool.

Kids NEED an adult to say to them "dude, cops are stressed, they carry guns, they will cover for each other, and they do accidentally shoot many people each year."

UNLESS mayor said some other anti-police shit, this sounds like drama queens getting riled up, looking to be offended.   
Yeah, I was calm when I was a kid. Got questioned all the time... but didn't have the attitude... so no problem.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 20, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
"be careful around cops!" isn't about race, it's about surprising a stressed out low IQ liar with a glock.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 09:14:06 PM
Amazing how all these clowns talk shit and spew endless racism and isolationalism...then turn around and act like their Mom was raped because some cops got shot in a RANDOM act of violence.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:15:44 PM
"be careful around cops!" isn't about race, it's about surprising a stressed out low IQ liar with a glock.

Cops lie.  all the time.  Most of the time, they only ADMIT what car data and witnesses and cell phones and traffic cameras pick up, long after their lying-ass police report is filed.

And they NEVER get fired/imprisoned for these lies, and they really should.

Cops WILL, from time to time, accidentally shoot people.
Cops WILL, from time to time, lie about shit to keep their own asses out of trouble.

So what is the outrage?  A dad told a kid to watch his ass around cops?   That's smart parenting.

What ELSE did Deblasio say that was anti-Cop?   Coach?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 20, 2014, 09:16:04 PM
. They aren't paid to think, they protect and serve. It's not a choice for them.

Maybe you haven't been watching the news.  NY cops are NOT required to serve and protect.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Cops lie.  all the time.  Most of the time, they only ADMIT what car data and witnesses and cell phones and traffic cameras pick up, long after their lying-ass police report is filed.

And they NEVER get fired/imprisoned for these lies, and they really should.

Cops WILL, from time to time, accidentally shoot people.
Cops WILL, from time to time, lie about shit to keep their own asses out of trouble.

So what is the outrage?  A dad told a kid to watch his ass around cops?   That's smart parenting.

What ELSE did Deblasio say that was anti-Cop?   Coach?

I take it you're backing Deblasio, obama, Sharpton and holder? Yes or no. One word answer.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:29:14 PM
I take it you're backing Deblasio, obama, Sharpton and holder? Yes or no. One word answer.

what the motherfck are you talking about?  FCK no, I'm not backing that.  My beliefs:

1) firehose protesters
2) lock up & execute cop killers.

Did you miss that post by me?  I only wrote it about 3 times in the last ten minutes lol.   I have no pity for this murderous piece of shit, and I come from a family with law enforcement, so I have a pretty high respect for what they do, and the STRESS they're always under.

Now, I asked you to tell me what "anti-cop" statements have been made by Deblasio.  Do you have one?  Because telling your kid to "be careful" around cops is common fcking sense, no matter what color you are, no matter what city you're in.  Only a fcking fool doesn't tell their kid to move slowly, repeat directions, be polite, move slowly, drive carefully, move slowly, and obey when a cop is there.  BE CAREFUL, yes, that's common sense.

What is the exact anti-police statement made by Deblasio, coach?  Please post it.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:35:53 PM
Getbiggers, a serious question - how many of you tell your kids to "BE CAREFUL AROUND COPS"?

Is it really that outrageous of a statement?  I mean, they're under a lot of stress, they're giving orders to a stranger in a dark car... any kind of sudden noise, move, etc could have them drawing a gun and shooting pretty quickly. 

Is this classic victimization/over-reaction to a dad telling his kid to exercise basic caution (be careful) when dealing with them?

And what's up with people somehow equating "be careful around cops" to somehow justifying murdering them?  Who makes that kind of insanely unrelated leap?  I mean, seriously, guys, what do you tell your kids about how to act around cops?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
I tell my kids to stay away from cops. My neighbors who are all cops tell people to stay away from cops as well.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 20, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
Getbiggers, a serious question - how many of you tell your kids to "BE CAREFUL AROUND COPS"?

Is it really that outrageous of a statement?  I mean, they're under a lot of stress, they're giving orders to a stranger in a dark car... any kind of sudden noise, move, etc could have them drawing a gun and shooting pretty quickly. 

Is this classic victimization/over-reaction to a dad telling his kid to exercise basic caution (be careful) when dealing with them?

And what's up with people somehow equating "be careful around cops" to somehow justifying murdering them?  Who makes that kind of insanely unrelated leap?  I mean, seriously, guys, what do you tell your kids about how to act around cops?

when i first started to drive my dad told me something similar if i were to get pulled over. basically, what to do and how to act because you never know how the cop is going to respond. better to be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
Getbiggers, a serious question - how many of you tell your kids to "BE CAREFUL AROUND COPS"?

Is it really that outrageous of a statement?  I mean, they're under a lot of stress, they're giving orders to a stranger in a dark car... any kind of sudden noise, move, etc could have them drawing a gun and shooting pretty quickly. 

Is this classic victimization/over-reaction to a dad telling his kid to exercise basic caution (be careful) when dealing with them?

And what's up with people somehow equating "be careful around cops" to somehow justifying murdering them?  Who makes that kind of insanely unrelated leap?  I mean, seriously, guys, what do you tell your kids about how to act around cops?

Define be careful. Do mean be afraid at all times careful?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
Define be careful. Do mean be afraid at all times careful?

???

Did Deblasio say "be afraid at all times" or did you just make that part up?   
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:49:47 PM

???

Did Deblasio say "be afraid at all times" or did you just make that part up?   

debliasio said "be careful".  And quite a few getbiggers are agreeing with him.  So do I.  So do most good parents - cops have stressful jobs, we tell our kids to be careful around cops.  that's great advice.

Did Deblasion tell his kids to "be afraid at all times" of cops?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
debliasio said "be careful".  And quite a few getbiggers are agreeing with him.  So do I.  So do most good parents - cops have stressful jobs, we tell our kids to be careful around cops.  that's great advice.

Did Deblasion tell his kids to "be afraid at all times" of cops?

I'm asking you. Fuck him.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 09:56:41 PM
Are you saying that all of those cops that turned their back on him in the video are wrong about what they interpreted?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: catracho on December 20, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
debliasio said "be careful".  And quite a few getbiggers are agreeing with him.  So do I.  So do most good parents - cops have stressful jobs, we tell our kids to be careful around cops.  that's great advice.

Did Deblasion tell his kids to "be afraid at all times" of cops?

I also tell my son not to have an attitude when dealing with police, but IMHO, when Deblasio said it, it came across as though  the only reason his son has to worry was because he was half hebrew.  I have been pulled over many times, and I have come to realize that a cop is gonna treat you like a criminal until he determines that you aren't.  Put your hands on the wheel, follow commands, and stay alive.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 20, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
Are you saying that all of those cops that turned their back on him in the video are wrong about what they interpreted?

Coach, why are you dick riding these cops? Are you trolling us? Do you just hate the other side that much? Are you a racist? What gives?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
I'm asking you. Fuck him.

you're asking me, if Deblasio made a quote that said kids should "be afraid at all times" of cops?

I do not know if Deblasio ever made this statement.   Did he?  Did Deblasio say this/

Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2014, 10:02:51 PM
I also tell my son not to have an attitude when dealing with police, but IMHO, when Deblasio said it, it came across as though  the only reason his son has to worry was because he was half hebrew.  I have been pulled over many times, and I have come to realize that a cop is gonna treat you like a criminal until he determines that you aren't.  Put your hands on the wheel, follow commands, and stay alive.

sounds like a LOT of getbiggers are telling their kids to be careful when dealing with cops.  I think you're 100% correct about this.  

I think we're going to see Coach quickly back away from his original statement:

You have mayor who is against cops.

Cause I am still waiting for the anti-cop statement made by Deblasio.   Coach, what was the anti-cop statement?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2014, 10:25:53 PM
Coach, why are you dick riding these cops? Are you trolling us? Do you just hate the other side that much? Are you a racist? What gives?

Because the dead cops today didn't do anything. Wtf? Are YOU trolling?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: obsidian on December 20, 2014, 10:42:41 PM
Coach, why are you dick riding these cops? Are you trolling us? Do you just hate the other side that much? Are you a racist? What gives?
The old racist accusation. Man, that is getting so old. You know someone is losing a debate when they start pulling out the "racist" card. That's so WEAK BSB - you're better than that right?!

These two INNOCENT cops were killed execution style and Coach is dick riding the cops?! You're no liberal?! Liberals watch out for the underdog and the innocent victims. If anything Coach is the liberal. You're some Marxist piece of shit.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 20, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
Coach, why are you dick riding these cops? Are you trolling us? Do you just hate the other side that much? Are you a racist? What gives?

Read the post above yours. As soon as the author of the newspaper article brings the race of the son into the discussion it implies DiBlasio is saying his son is at extra risk because he's a Halfbrew.

The Mayor comes off like a complete piece of shit.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: obsidian on December 20, 2014, 11:10:31 PM
Read the post above yours. As soon as the author of the newspaper article brings the race of the son into the discussion it implies DiBlasio is saying his son is at extra risk because he's a Halfbrew.

The Mayor comes off like a complete piece of shit.
The mayor has blood on his hands. Needs to be charged as accessory to murder along with obama, holder and sharpton / jackson. The sooner they disappear from public office / limelight the better for the whole country - whites, hispanics, asians and blacks!
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: obsidian on December 20, 2014, 11:17:09 PM
sounds like a LOT of getbiggers are telling their kids to be careful when dealing with cops.  I think you're 100% correct about this.  

I think we're going to see Coach quickly back away from his original statement:

Cause I am still waiting for the anti-cop statement made by Deblasio.   Coach, what was the anti-cop statement?
He said his bi-racial son needs to be careful around cops. He made this a racial matter from the start with the police. Given the national dialogue right now regarding race and the police this was very foolish of him.

In case you lived under a rock 240 and I know you haven't there is a race issue in the USA. Blacks are being conditioned by the media to believe they are the eternal victims. There are some maladjusted blacks that will become violent and take a life or lives as just happened with these cops when provided with a catalyst.

The cops turned their backs on Deblasio because he did throw them under the bus - are they all wrong??! You seriously think so??

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/21/243255E200000578-2882169-image-m-5_1419129122760.jpg)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Bevo on December 21, 2014, 02:08:33 AM
??? 

Doesn't EVERY parent tell their kids to be super careful around cops?   WTF is the outrage?

I'm a bald, white dude, and you bet your silly ass that I keep my hands on the wheel, I keep my papers ready, and when a cop asks me to reach for something, I verbally repeat the order and move SLOWLY for my papers, etc.   I've ever said "I just want to make sure you don't get startled and cap my ass" lol, and the cop laughed too.  Cause it happens!   

it's not a race thing - it's a "cop with itchy trigger fingers if a tire backfires or I sneeze while reaching for my insurance papers" kinda thing.  Only a FOOL doesn't tell their kids to be slow, careful, and all that, when around cops.  They have guns, they're under high stress, and they lie on police reports sometimes...   

So what's the outrage?  "be careful around cops!" isn't about race, it's about surprising a stressed out liar with a glock.

Yes but these low lives black thugs are turning it into a race thing , just kill them all
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Bevo on December 21, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
He said his bi-racial son needs to be careful around cops. He made this a racial matter from the start with the police. Given the national dialogue right now regarding race and the police this was very foolish of him.

In case you lived under a rock 240 and I know you haven't there is a race issue in the USA. Blacks are being conditioned by the media to believe they are the eternal victims. There are some maladjusted blacks that will become violent and take a life or lives as just happened with these cops when provided with a catalyst.

The cops turned their backs on Deblasio because he did throw them under the bus - are they all wrong??! You seriously think so??

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/21/243255E200000578-2882169-image-m-5_1419129122760.jpg)

I agree
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Sokolsky on December 21, 2014, 03:55:03 AM
He said his bi-racial son needs to be careful around cops. He made this a racial matter from the start with the police. Given the national dialogue right now regarding race and the police this was very foolish of him.

In case you lived under a rock 240 and I know you haven't there is a race issue in the USA. Blacks are being conditioned by the media to believe they are the eternal victims. There are some maladjusted blacks that will become violent and take a life or lives as just happened with these cops when provided with a catalyst.

The cops turned their backs on Deblasio because he did throw them under the bus - are they all wrong??! You seriously think so??

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/21/243255E200000578-2882169-image-m-5_1419129122760.jpg)

On top of making it a race issue, such a statement by a public figure does not inspire trust in the executive branch and practically undermines the relationship. It is OK to publicly question and investigate police conduct, it is not OK to make statements blatently portraying the police as some type of boogyman, implied or not. Whether he said it as a mayor or as a father is redundant, he should've kept such statements to private circles.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 21, 2014, 03:57:18 AM
he should've kept such statements to private circles.

Why?  Obama makes them to the public.  He is merely imitating the POTUS and AG.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 21, 2014, 04:25:31 AM
The disgraceful anti cop hatred on this forum has ruined it. You anti American pieces of shit should try to live somewhere where there are no cops. Fucking kill yourselves and do us all a favor.

Ron and OMR I've talked to you both in the past and you are good people... But you need to remove these scum bags because normal people are sick of thier shit.


Bruised you are a fucking disgrace of a marine... You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a coward who prolly hid during your service... At least that's how you sound. The marines should be ashamed they ever let traitorous pussys in like you. I used to think you were ok... But you are no better then 240 or Benny or any of these other racists fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 21, 2014, 04:30:11 AM
The disgraceful anti cop hatred on this forum has ruined it. You anti American pieces of shit should try to live somewhere where there are no cops. Fucking kill yourselves and do us all a favor.

Ron and OMR I've talked to you both in the past and you are good people... But you need to remove these scum bags because normal people are sick of thier shit.


Bruised you are a fucking disgrace of a marine... You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a coward who prolly hid during your service... At least that's how you sound. The marines should be ashamed they ever let traitorous pussys in like you. I used to think you were ok... But you are no better then 240 or Benny or any of these other racists fucking idiots.

Anti Cop = Anti American?

Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 21, 2014, 04:32:22 AM
Anti Cop = Anti American?



No... Pro nignogs killing cops is better then cops disposing of the trash... Is anti American.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 06:42:16 AM
He said his bi-racial son needs to be careful around cops. He made this a racial matter from the start with the police. Given the national dialogue right now regarding race and the police this was very foolish of him.

In case you lived under a rock 240 and I know you haven't there is a race issue in the USA. Blacks are being conditioned by the media to believe they are the eternal victims. There are some maladjusted blacks that will become violent and take a life or lives as just happened with these cops when provided with a catalyst.

The cops turned their backs on Deblasio because he did throw them under the bus - are they all wrong??! You seriously think so??

I used to be the only white kid on the city bus in Akron Ohio, back in 92 taking the bus from drug infested Fess Ave to Downtown bus exchange.   I've lived in the projects, as well as the florida trailer parks. 

But Deblasio "telling his biracial son" to be careful - I don't think my dad was being racist when he told his white son (me) to watch his ass around cops..  Heck, my grandfather was on the police force and he told me the same thing 30 years ago - "ALWAYS MOVE SLOW" was what he told all of us grandkids. It wasn't cause of skin color.

So unless deblasio said "because my son is bi-racial, I had to tell him to be careful", I see this as nothing more than a father telling his boy to move slow and carefully around cops.   I think asian parents need to tell their kids the same.  And Samoan parents.  And swedish parents.  And australian parents too.  UNLESS deblasio said "It has to do with race", it isn't fair for any of us to assume that.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 06:49:50 AM
Coach, were you able to share the racist quote made by Deblasio?   I hear he's a bag of shit on many issues, but for the police thing - what did he say that was racist?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Grape Ape on December 21, 2014, 06:50:09 AM
240 -  There is more to the anti-Deblasio crowd than just that conversation he had with his son.   You should research.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 06:59:19 AM
240 -  There is more to the anti-Deblasio crowd than just that conversation he had with his son.   You should research.

I never said Deblasion wasn't anti-cop, i Just said the ONE statement (about being careful) is common sense for all parents.
I keep asking Coach for quotes from Deblasio that show he's anti-cop.



Or did he do something else?   If he did something else, share it. 

UNLESS mayor said some other anti-police shit, this sounds like drama queens getting riled up, looking to be offended.   
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2014, 07:01:04 AM
I have warned everyone for a lng time what disaster diblAsio was going to be


F him and f obamafag and Sharpton

True.

You called that one a long time ago.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: youandme on December 21, 2014, 07:01:11 AM
The cops turned their backs on Deblasio because he did throw them under the bus - are they all wrong??! You seriously think so??

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/21/243255E200000578-2882169-image-m-5_1419129122760.jpg)

Good job.
The mayor breached his sworn duty to uphold the law with impartiality. He made a decision to put the officers in harm's way by inciting violence by pointing the finger and shaking his head to instill fear and anger against the police. Time for him to step down and for all of his statements as mayor to be collected to see if charges should be pressed against him.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Mr. MB on December 21, 2014, 07:08:41 AM
If I were the union chief for the NYPD I would call for a 48 hour sick in and call it the Deblasio Flu. Within 24 hours there would be so much chaos in the City that the NY National Guard would have to show up and install Marshall Law. Then lets see if the New Yorkers call for Deblasio to step down.

Idiots!!!
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: OlympiaGym on December 21, 2014, 07:15:29 AM
Just muds killing muds so who cares ... but if these cops didn't have civil service protection they wouldn't be pulling this shit because if they worked for a private company and did this to their boss they'd be fired on the spot. Real tough guys. And so much for them being a para-military organization, this shit would never fly in the service
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2014, 07:16:58 AM
If I were the union chief for the NYPD I would call for a 48 hour sick in and call it the Deblasio Flu. Within 24 hours there would be so much chaos in the City that the NY National Guard would have to show up and install Marshall Law. Then lets see if the New Yorkers call for Deblasio to step down.

Idiots!!!

Damn. Good point.

They could probably easily do it too.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 21, 2014, 07:46:28 AM
Just muds killing muds so who cares ... but if these cops didn't have civil service protection they wouldn't be pulling this shit because if they worked for a private company and did this to their boss they'd be fired on the spot. Real tough guys. And so much for them being a para-military organization, this shit would never fly in the service

Yes, they do "consider themselves" para-military now don't they.  What a joke. 
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 21, 2014, 07:49:56 AM
If I were the union chief for the NYPD I would call for a 48 hour sick in and call it the Deblasio Flu. Within 24 hours there would be so much chaos in the City that the NY National Guard would have to show up and install Marshall Law. Then lets see if the New Yorkers call for Deblasio to step down.

Idiots!!!

Great plan, put citizens at risk to prove a point to the Mayor. That's so silly I can't even fathom what sort of ethical compass you work off of.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: RRKore on December 21, 2014, 08:05:46 AM
I used to be the only white kid on the city bus in Akron Ohio, back in 92 taking the bus from drug infested Fess Ave to Downtown bus exchange.   I've lived in the projects, as well as the florida trailer parks. 

But Deblasio "telling his biracial son" to be careful - I don't think my dad was being racist when he told his white son (me) to watch his ass around cops..  Heck, my grandfather was on the police force and he told me the same thing 30 years ago - "ALWAYS MOVE SLOW" was what he told all of us grandkids. It wasn't cause of skin color.

So unless deblasio said "because my son is bi-racial, I had to tell him to be careful", I see this as nothing more than a father telling his boy to move slow and carefully around cops.   I think asian parents need to tell their kids the same.  And Samoan parents.  And swedish parents.  And australian parents too.  UNLESS deblasio said "It has to do with race", it isn't fair for any of us to assume that.

And, shit, even if the Mayor did tell his son that he should be careful due to his non-white appearance, would that be wrong? 

Maybe I'm wrong but I could swear that I've read that non-whites were stopped and searched much more frequently than whites when the NYPD's "Stop and Frisk" program was in effect. 

Or are some folks here just saying that it's OK for the Mayor to tell his kid to be careful around cops because of his race (and age and gender) but not OK to proclaim that he did this publicly?

Seems to me that all the mayor is doing is saying, "Yes, there is a problem".   And that seems inarguable to me (though how big a problem is certainly arguable).

BTW, I have no problem with the police expressing their displeasure with the mayor by turning their backs to him.  As others have said, police are not soldiers so there's no law against them expressing their political views even when in uniform.

Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 08:11:01 AM
The disgraceful anti cop hatred on this forum has ruined it. You anti American pieces of shit should try to live somewhere where there are no cops. Fucking kill yourselves and do us all a favor.

Ron and OMR I've talked to you both in the past and you are good people... But you need to remove these scum bags because normal people are sick of thier shit.


Bruised you are a fucking disgrace of a marine... You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a coward who prolly hid during your service... At least that's how you sound. The marines should be ashamed they ever let traitorous pussys in like you. I used to think you were ok... But you are no better then 240 or Benny or any of these other racists fucking idiots.

Isnt it anti-american to censor someone (remove them) just because you dont like what they say?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 08:40:49 AM
Isnt it anti-american to censor someone (remove them) just because you dont like what they say?

You really don't get it do you?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: tonymctones on December 21, 2014, 09:00:16 AM
And, shit, even if the Mayor did tell his son that he should be careful due to his non-white appearance, would that be wrong? 

Maybe I'm wrong but I could swear that I've read that non-whites were stopped and searched much more frequently than whites when the NYPD's "Stop and Frisk" program was in effect. 

Or are some folks here just saying that it's OK for the Mayor to tell his kid to be careful around cops because of his race (and age and gender) but not OK to proclaim that he did this publicly?

Seems to me that all the mayor is doing is saying, "Yes, there is a problem".   And that seems inarguable to me (though how big a problem is certainly arguable).

BTW, I have no problem with the police expressing their displeasure with the mayor by turning their backs to him.  As others have said, police are not soldiers so there's no law against them expressing their political views even when in uniform.


nothing wrong with him telling his son that, but did he also tell his son he is much more likely to become the victim of violence by others who look like him then at the hands of the police?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 21, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
nothing wrong with him telling his son that, but did he also tell his son he is much more likely to become the victim of violence by others who look like him then at the hands of the police?

At the end of the day, who cares what some liberal POS politician told his faggotty Halfbrew son?

It's a made up story for publicity and the mayor just stepped in 6 feet of shit and he's wearing the wrong shoes.

If the son of the mudshark breaks the law he should be treated the same as every other lawbreaker in society.

Why is it surprising to this idiot mayor that the rules of society apply to him and his spawn too?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
At the end of the day, who cares what some liberal POS politician told his faggotty Halfbrew son?

It's a made up story for publicity and the mayor just stepped in 6 feet of shit and he's wearing the wrong shoes.

If the son of the mudshark breaks the law he should be treated the same as every other lawbreaker in society.

Why is it surprising to this idiot mayor that the rules of society apply to him and his spawn too?

Liberal Utopia

Address: Feelingsville, USA
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Devon97 on December 21, 2014, 10:28:53 AM
It's a free fucking country, he's mayor but he's also a citizen. Police need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. Nobody cares what a cop thinks. They aren't paid to think, they protect and serve. It's not a choice for them.

Not so fast, you once applied to be one of "Filthadelphia's Finest!"
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 11:37:50 AM
nothing wrong with him telling his son that, but did he also tell his son he is much more likely to become the victim of violence by others who look like him then at the hands of the police?

I don't know the asnwer to that Q.   Did Deblasio say the kid was statistically more likely to become victim due to race?   I didn't see a quote about that, I keep asking Coach but he doesn't seem to be able to find that quote.

All I saw was "be careful" - nothing about race.   One cannot just infer "oh, he must have MEANT race" because I just as easily argue he must have meant people that wear tennis shoes or people that pick their noses with their left hand.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: obsidian on December 21, 2014, 12:19:35 PM
I don't know the asnwer to that Q.   Did Deblasio say the kid was statistically more likely to become victim due to race?   I didn't see a quote about that, I keep asking Coach but he doesn't seem to be able to find that quote.

All I saw was "be careful" - nothing about race.   One cannot just infer "oh, he must have MEANT race" because I just as easily argue he must have meant people that wear tennis shoes or people that pick their noses with their left hand.
Start watching at around 3:35 mark. Deblasio made this a racial issue and claimed because of his son's color the police could be biased towards him. He threw the cops under the bus and an unstable "person of color" shot two cops. Because of the media and Deblasio's bias those two officers are dead.

Instead Deblasio should have told his son to act normal like a civilized human being and he would never have to fear the police. Deblasio is biased and not fit for the job. He needs to be replaced.



What parents have done for decades who have children of color, especially young men of color, is train them to be very careful when they have an encounter with a police officer. It’s different for a white child. That’s just the reality of this country. With Dante very early on we said, ‘Look, if a police officer stops you, do everything he tells you to do. Don’t move suddenly, don’t reach for your cell phone.’ Because we knew, sadly, there was a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if he’s a young man of color.”
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 21, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
Why has this guy has changed his name 3 times? He's the Obama of NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-names-de-blasio-article-1.1463591
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Schnauzer on December 21, 2014, 12:56:16 PM
Quote
Many politicians with high prospects of running for office take pride in name recognition and brand themselves by repetitively using a particular part of their name for marketing slogan. De Blasio, on the other hand, has changed his name three times, in a way that represents his personal and familial evolution. The mayoral hopeful was born Warren Wilhelm, Jr. in 1961, legally changed his name to Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm in 1983, and changed it again in 2002 to Bill de Blasio.

 http://mic.com/articles/65809/5-things-most-new-yorkers-don-t-know-about-bill-de-blasio  (http://mic.com/articles/65809/5-things-most-new-yorkers-don-t-know-about-bill-de-blasio)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 01:04:52 PM
Why has this guy has changed his name 3 times? He's the Obama of NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-names-de-blasio-article-1.1463591

Damn!!
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Mr. MB on December 21, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
Just starting to leak out.....
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
Why has this guy has changed his name 3 times? He's the Obama of NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-names-de-blasio-article-1.1463591

DiblAsio is not Italian American.   He is a phoney pos and probably from Kenya just like obama
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 02:23:52 PM
DiblAsio is not Italian American.   He is a phoney pos and probably from Kenya just like obama


Trolling attempt................. failed.  :D :D

You have to make the trolling more subtle.  :D
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2014, 02:26:52 PM

Trolling attempt................. failed.  :D :D

You have to make the trolling more subtle.  :D

No Trolling.   I want to see his birth certificate
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
No Trolling.   I want to see his birth certificate

You seriously don't think Deblasio is from Kenya. Gimme a break.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
You seriously don't think Deblasio is from Kenya. Gimme a break.  ::) ::)

We know he ain't a wop from NYC either so kenyan village where obama is from just as good a possibility.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 2Thick on December 21, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
How the hell did Comrade DeBlasio even get elected?

And who the hell would give their kid a name like "Dante"? He should have warned his son about getting his ass kicked by other kids for being named "Dante DeBlasio" and for having such a liberal lunatic for a father.

"Dante DeBlasio" sounds like a half-black, half-Italian gay porn star.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: old-school-lifter on December 21, 2014, 03:06:17 PM
99% of cops are dirty

you look @ the sort of people who become cops and you get the idea
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 2Thick on December 21, 2014, 03:07:34 PM
Never had a problem with any of 'em myself.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2014, 03:15:40 PM
How the hell did Comrade DeBlasio even get elected?

And who the hell would give their kid a name like "Dante"? He should have warned his son about getting his ass kicked by other kids for being named "Dante DeBlasio" and for having such a liberal lunatic for a father.

"Dante DeBlasio" sounds like a half-black, half-Italian gay porn star.


Or obama
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Lustral on December 21, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
It's a free fucking country, he's mayor but he's also a citizen. Police need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs. Nobody cares what a cop thinks. They aren't paid to think, they protect and serve. It's not a choice for them.

Will people protest by looting tvs and start twitter campaigns now cos two non black cops sitting in a car were shot by a black man? Sad thing is i knew ismaeel was black not by name or any other factor than that his race was not mentioned initially here.

I hate the media for creating this race war. I hate that it annoys me because that means i watch news and get angry and see their ads and sponsors. But fuck me this is a joke. #sitdowndontshoot  ... oh and these are cops not criminals...
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 04:20:22 PM
Cops are all assholes......until they save your ass. Is this what I'm hearing?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Schnauzer on December 21, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
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Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on December 21, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
Cops are all assholes......until they save your ass. Is this what I'm hearing?

Yes. Exactly. I don't like fucking Postal workers either unless I'm waiting for a letter. Same with garbage men.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: LittleJ on December 21, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
Cops are all assholes......until they save your ass. Is this what I'm hearing?

Cops never saved me.  ???
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 05:02:27 PM
Cops are all assholes......until they save your ass. Is this what I'm hearing?

Actual republicans carry a fucking gun with them.  They don't need to sit in a puddle of piss and hope 911 arrives fast enough to save them from the bad guy with a gun in their mouth. 

So yes, I think shady cops that break rules should no longer be on the force.  I dont have to S their D to save my ass.  I'm an american,I've carried a gun since some on getbig were voting Clinton lol...
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Jeffro on December 21, 2014, 07:02:23 PM
The people in this thread calling cops "pigs" and "corrupt" are the same little punk pussies who call on them to save them at the first hint of danger or confrontation.  Soft as baby shit for sure.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: LittleJ on December 21, 2014, 07:10:18 PM
The people in this thread calling cops "pigs" and "corrupt" are the same little punk pussies who call on them to save them at the first hint of danger or confrontation.  Soft as baby shit for sure.

I called the cops when I was about to be attack and they took nearly an hour to get to the scene. The nearest precinct was less than 3 minutes away and when they showed up they didn't go after the people that tried to attack me or bother writing a police report. They laugh at me when I ask them what took so fucking long. Protect and serve  ::)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
I called the cops when I was about to be attack and they took nearly an hour to get to the scene. The nearest precinct was less than 3 minutes away and when they showed up they didn't go after the people that tried to attack me or bother writing a police report. They laugh at me when I ask them what took so fucking long. Protect and serve  ::)

yeah, it's because they're a state/city entity.  Not a private force.  If response time truly mattered, if there was a Police 2.0 company waiting to take their market share, they'd allocate resources to arrive in less than 60 minutes.  They're like the DMV... you can't go to a slightly more expensive DMV and save the 90 minutes of waiting (and most of us would!)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
I called the cops when I was about to be attack and they took nearly an hour to get to the scene. The nearest precinct was less than 3 minutes away and when they showed up they didn't go after the people that tried to attack me or bother writing a police report. They laugh at me when I ask them what took so fucking long. Protect and serve  ::)

The opposite side of that scenario is if the cops are called where we live there is about a 5min or less response depending on the severity of the situation. Were you attacked?
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 07:21:54 PM
yeah, it's because they're a state/city entity.  Not a private force.  If response time truly mattered, if there was a Police 2.0 company waiting to take their market share, they'd allocate resources to arrive in less than 60 minutes.  They're like the DMV... you can't go to a slightly more expensive DMV and save the 90 minutes of waiting (and most of us would!)

 ::)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 07:23:18 PM
yeah, it's because they're a state/city entity.  Not a private force.  If response time truly mattered, if there was a Police 2.0 company waiting to take their market share, they'd allocate resources to arrive in less than 60 minutes.  They're like the DMV... you can't go to a slightly more expensive DMV and save the 90 minutes of waiting (and most of us would!)

DMV is the absolute worst, especially where I am from. It opens up at 8am and if youre not there waiting on line at 7:00am, you will be there for hours. There is no worst experience than having to go to the DMV.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 07:33:43 PM
::)

it's true of ANY public entity.  They don't HAVE to be fast or good.  Look at the US postal service, getting destoryed by fedex and UPS because it's a public company trying to compete.

The opposite side of that scenario is if the cops are called where we live there is about a 5min or less response depending on the severity of the situation. Were you attacked?

nationally, I think the average is 11 minutes.  Your "5 min or less" is definitely not what most people see. 

Seriously, I respect cops, but I know they lie, I know they over-react.  They're not perfect, and I'm certainly not justifying criminal behavior of piece of shit bad guys.   

Lately, it seems like repubs are willing to side with irrational things because they think the opposite = obama.

Look at Zimmerman - beat his wife, SHOVED A COP, voted obama, yet the "right" made the dude a hero.  He was a piece of shit, but since he shot someone you thought to be a bigger piece of shit, many loved him.

IN this case, the fat asthma dude was a piece of shit, and the cops that lied on their report about using that hold are also pieces of shit.  It's that simple.  no heroes in this mix.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 07:39:53 PM
it's true of ANY public entity.  They don't HAVE to be fast or good.  Look at the US postal service, getting destoryed by fedex and UPS because it's a public company trying to compete.

nationally, I think the average is 11 minutes.  Your "5 min or less" is definitely not what most people see. 

Seriously, I respect cops, but I know they lie, I know they over-react.  They're not perfect, and I'm certainly not justifying criminal behavior of piece of shit bad guys.   

Lately, it seems like repubs are willing to side with irrational things because they think the opposite = obama.

Look at Zimmerman - beat his wife, SHOVED A COP, voted obama, yet the "right" made the dude a hero.  He was a piece of shit, but since he shot someone you thought to be a bigger piece of shit, many loved him.

IN this case, the fat asthma dude was a piece of shit, and the cops that lied on their report about using that hold are also pieces of shit.  It's that simple.  no heroes in this mix.

According to American Police Beat, the average response time for an emergency call is 10 minutes. Atlanta has the worst response time with 11 to 12 minutes and Nashville comes in at a lightning speed of 9 minutes.

If you need the police, it may take them nine minutes to get to you, the longest the wait time has been since 2003.

That’s the new average response time in the Mayor’s Management Report, which was released Wednesday.

The average response time of 2012 was 9.1 minutes, according to the report.

Not only is that the longest the wait time has been since Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office in 2002, it's also an increase from the 8.4 minutes it took officers to get to people calling for help in 2011.

The wait time has steadily been increasing every year: In 2007, it took officers 6.9 minutes on average.


Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
it's weird - because with technology making things faster, times should be shorter, not longer.

People can report MUCH more detailed info on an incident - smart phones give their exact location, they can take pics, they don't have to run to a payphone and squint at street signs.

Efficiency should be up due to computers calculating paths and resource use

No cop should ever get lost thanks to GPS.  Remember cop shows "You know there 4th and 9th is?  Okay, let's roll" lol now they just follow the computer.

Yet with all that, they are taking LONGER to arrive.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
it's weird - because with technology making things faster, times should be shorter, not longer.

People can report MUCH more detailed info on an incident - smart phones give their exact location, they can take pics, they don't have to run to a payphone and squint at street signs.

Efficiency should be up due to computers calculating paths and resource use

No cop should ever get lost thanks to GPS.  Remember cop shows "You know there 4th and 9th is?  Okay, let's roll" lol now they just follow the computer.

Yet with all that, they are taking LONGER to arrive.


Perhaps too many dunkin donuts along the way and they are stopping off for a quick jelly glazed donut with a medium dunkaccino (half coffee/half hot chocolate).

(http://theantimedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cops-dunkin-donuts-21.jpg)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
You cop haters live in LaLa land. Hahaha. I give up. I can't argue with idiots. lol
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2014, 08:17:44 PM
You cop haters live in LaLa land. Hahaha. I give up. I can't argue with idiots. lol

We need to get 240 in there to straighten these guys up.

He'd have it all figured out by sometime next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 08:21:58 PM
We need to get 240 in there to straighten these guys up.

He'd have it all figured out by sometime next Tuesday.

240 is an expert when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, riot diffusion, weaponry, police response time, difficulties with organizational leadership, and the relationship between community and the police force.

His credentials speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 08:26:10 PM
240 is an expert when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, riot diffusion, weaponry, police response time, difficulties with organizational leadership, and the relationship between community and the police force.

His credentials speak for themselves.

 ;D 
I like to live in that gray area where nobody is perfect.  There were no heroes in the zimmerman mess.  No heroes in this mess.  No heroes in that ferguson mess.   Just an intersection of two flawed human beings.  In all three cases, the dead one didn't follow the law, and the shooter lied to police about details.   


(Yes, in the ferguson mess, the cop somehow turned 152 feet into "10 or 20" feet that he ran before opening fire, in order to keep the shooting about the car attack, and not about running 1/2 a football field to catch someone that just kicked your ass - major detail to miss there). 
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 08:27:56 PM
240 is an expert when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, riot diffusion, weaponry, police response time, difficulties with organizational leadership, and the relationship between community and the police force.

His credentials speak for themselves.

You mean he's a community organizer? Community Organizers always make leaders..hahahahahahahah aha ;D
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 08:31:02 PM
You mean he's a community organizer? Community Organizers always make leaders..hahahahahahahah aha ;D

they might be shitty leaders, but they are really good at winning elections.

President Mccain & President Romney?

coach, I know you're a good person, and I know you love the country.  But you cannot give cops this much leash.  They do abuse people on rare occasion, and they do "fudge" details more than you might want to admit :(  The MINUTE you give them 100% free reign, obama uses them to crack your skull after the dems steal an election, ya know?   

Just picture you marching to protest Hilary stealing the 2016 election - and the police are beating you and your friends - and letting you bleed out in cuffs.  Imagine a world where obama decides protesting = resisting some executive order not to protest.  Suddenly it's fair game to beat/choke/etc you - at the stroke of a pen.  It can happen - you cannot give obama and his national police force that kind of power. 
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 08:34:15 PM
;D 
I like to live in that gray area where nobody is perfect.  There were no heroes in the zimmerman mess.  No heroes in this mess.  No heroes in that ferguson mess.   Just an intersection of two flawed human beings.  In all three cases, the dead one didn't follow the law, and the shooter lied to police about details.   


(Yes, in the ferguson mess, the cop somehow turned 152 feet into "10 or 20" feet that he ran before opening fire, in order to keep the shooting about the car attack, and not about running 1/2 a football field to catch someone that just kicked your ass - major detail to miss there). 

240, all you would have to do is show them your website, flashrob.com, and that will cure all the difficulty between police and citizen.

You can create a website called, "Where Police and Citizen Meet in Unity."
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
240, all you would have to do is show them your website, flashrob.com, and that will cure all the difficulty between police and citizen.

You can create a website called, "Where Police and Citizen Meet in Unity."

There CAN be a peace - BUT they would have to BOTH admit fault.   The people protesting would have to admit - Trayvon was a piece of shit.  Mike Brown was a bully and a thief.  This dude was fat and disgusting and tried to scram.

THEN the cops would have to drop the blue wall bullshit.  The cops at the scene should amend their reports in the NYPD choking case, and the cop that used a choke - but left the use of that move out of the report - should be prosecuted. 

The MINUTE both sides have to admit they're not perfect - that the "victims" are criminals, and the "hero" cops are also committing crimes by lying on report - is the moment people chill out and cops start doing a better job.

Right now, you have two sides both claiming to be 100% perfect - they're both doing criminal shit.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2014, 08:44:18 PM
they might be shitty leaders, but they are really good at winning elections.

President Mccain & President Romney?

coach, I know you're a good person, and I know you love the country.  But you cannot give cops this much leash.  They do abuse people on rare occasion, and they do "fudge" details more than you might want to admit :(  The MINUTE you give them 100% free reign, obama uses them to crack your skull after the dems steal an election, ya know?   

Just picture you marching to protest Hilary stealing the 2016 election - and the police are beating you and your friends - and letting you bleed out in cuffs.  Imagine a world where obama decides protesting = resisting some executive order not to protest.  Suddenly it's fair game to beat/choke/etc you - at the stroke of a pen.  It can happen - you cannot give obama and his national police force that kind of power. 

It's a moot point. I've already proven just because you can "win" an election it doesn't mean you can do the job....obviously.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2014, 08:56:19 PM
There CAN be a peace - BUT they would have to BOTH admit fault.   The people protesting would have to admit - Trayvon was a piece of shit.  Mike Brown was a bully and a thief.  This dude was fat and disgusting and tried to scram.

THEN the cops would have to drop the blue wall bullshit.  The cops at the scene should amend their reports in the NYPD choking case, and the cop that used a choke - but left the use of that move out of the report - should be prosecuted. 

The MINUTE both sides have to admit they're not perfect - that the "victims" are criminals, and the "hero" cops are also committing crimes by lying on report - is the moment people chill out and cops start doing a better job.

Right now, you have two sides both claiming to be 100% perfect - they're both doing criminal shit.

Yes this is key.

Maybe have a "beer summit" where we can have "an honest conversation" and then "begin to heal"

You nailed it on that one Rob.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 21, 2014, 09:02:12 PM
Yes this is key.

Maybe have a "beer summit" where we can have "an honest conversation" and then "begin to heal"

You nailed it on that one Rob.

(http://www.giffordfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Butternut-Community-Police-Center.jpg)

(http://www.myfloridacommunitywatch.com/fckeditor/uploads/image/police%20community.jpg)

(http://www.csjkansas.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/WEB-second-family.jpg)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2014, 09:09:02 PM
(http://www.giffordfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Butternut-Community-Police-Center.jpg)

(http://www.myfloridacommunitywatch.com/fckeditor/uploads/image/police%20community.jpg)

(http://www.csjkansas.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/WEB-second-family.jpg)

Yes. "Healing" is key.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 22, 2014, 07:46:53 AM
Here in SW Florida, there were some minor protests with 30 or 40 people outside of the police department.  There was a big mess this spring, a kid was beaten on camera to the point of two broken legs for sleeping drunk in a truck.   Cop tried to confiscate all cell cameras with "you smell like weed, give me your phones".  Nothing ever came of it.

Now, the police department is having "breakfast with the police" each day, where civilians are invited to enjoy a nice conversation with their local police, chat about problems, ideas, etc.   Not a bad idea. 
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 22, 2014, 07:54:25 AM
I never seriously wish harm to anyone, but I do really wish all you cop haters local police ALL call in sick for a week. 1 week that's all. Then let's see how you feel when your shit is hurt... Your people... You would sing a different toon. You stupid turds you don't even know how evil unchecked humanity can be... You need the Middle East in your town for a week.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Schnauzer on December 22, 2014, 08:06:00 AM
Fox News headline: Police Officer Attacked by Minorities

(http://www.myfloridacommunitywatch.com/fckeditor/uploads/image/police%20community.jpg)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2014, 08:07:38 AM
I never seriously wish harm to anyone, but I do really wish all you cop haters local police ALL call in sick for a week. 1 week that's all. Then let's see how you feel when your shit is hurt... Your people... You would sing a different toon. You stupid turds you don't even know how evil unchecked humanity can be... You need the Middle East in your town for a week.

we would be Somalia in days in most cities
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 22, 2014, 08:16:54 AM
we would be Somalia in days in most cities

I'm being forced to work in the heart of Philly right now. Most people drive through bad neighborhoods and say ugh wtf. But I need to go into alleys and yards etc. Seeing how these people live like fucking zoo animals.... Worse than that... Dead dogs, trash, sides of thier houses falling off, no one works, fucking trash and food and bugs every where.

Not even enough pride to be human let alone the neighborhood or other people. If there were no police for a week they would be eating people that's how fucked minority neighborhoods are. Fucking ANIMALS. I can't even fathom how people become cops and have to work among these animals. I can't wait to get back to the suburbs every afternoon.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2014, 10:18:34 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/de-blasio-raises-fears-son-dante-garner-decision-blog-entry-1.2032359



 >:(
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 22, 2014, 10:40:52 AM
I never seriously wish harm to anyone, but I do really wish all you cop haters local police ALL call in sick for a week. 1 week that's all. Then let's see how you feel when your shit is hurt... Your people... You would sing a different toon. You stupid turds you don't even know how evil unchecked humanity can be... You need the Middle East in your town for a week.

The whole argument of, "You dislike cops, so don't call them when you need help" is a horrible argument. It's just bad. The fact that we need cops to live in a civilized society and call them when we need help does not justify the police brutality and corruption. In your world, police should just be able to do whatever they want because we need them. Brilliant logic.

Just because we need cops, that does not mean they should not be held accountable for their bad actions. In fact, a police officers actions should be held to a higher standard because they take an oath to uphold the law.

I do not mind good cops. The times I have been pulled over for a traffic violation, the officers have been very kind to me. I gave them respect and they gave me respect. Some give me a ticket, but a lot actually let me off with just a warning. I've never had any problems with cops. However, to outright dismiss the corruption and police brutality when it does occur is ludicrous and say, "well, don't call the cops when you need them if you dislike them so much" is stupid. It's not that i don't like cops. I don't like corrupt cops and cops that protect each other when they are clearly in the wrong. The fact is that police officers are not perfect. They are humans. They make mistakes. And they need to be held accountable for their mistakes.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: tleilaxutank on December 22, 2014, 11:43:34 AM
??? 

Doesn't EVERY parent tell their kids to be super careful around cops?   WTF is the outrage?

No shit. It's called the "respect authority" talk most civilized parents have with their kids. Problem is neeguls and other urbanic riff raff accept general disregard for authority, e.g. "whiling out" "turnt up" etc.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: 240 is Back on December 22, 2014, 11:57:04 AM
No shit. It's called the "respect authority" talk most civilized parents have with their kids. Problem is neeguls and other urbanic riff raff accept general disregard for authority, e.g. "whiling out" "turnt up" etc.

Yeah, it's a bit of that.  And also a lot of "cops are stressed out people that do make mistakes, and do cover them up".
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 22, 2014, 12:09:30 PM
The whole argument of, "You dislike cops, so don't call them when you need help" is a horrible argument. It's just bad. The fact that we need cops to live in a civilized society and call them when we need help does not justify the police brutality and corruption. In your world, police should just be able to do whatever they want because we need them. Brilliant logic.

Just because we need cops, that does not mean they should not be held accountable for their bad actions. In fact, a police officers actions should be held to a higher standard because they take an oath to uphold the law.

I do not mind good cops. The times I have been pulled over for a traffic violation, the officers have been very kind to me. I gave them respect and they gave me respect. Some give me a ticket, but a lot actually let me off with just a warning. I've never had any problems with cops. However, to outright dismiss the corruption and police brutality when it does occur is ludicrous and say, "well, don't call the cops when you need them if you dislike them so much" is stupid. It's not that i don't like cops. I don't like corrupt cops and cops that protect each other when they are clearly in the wrong. The fact is that police officers are not perfect. They are humans. They make mistakes. And they need to be held accountable for their mistakes.


False equivalence. These scumbags were ALL resisting arrest or assaulting cops at the time they were killed. Your point MIGHT stand if was any actual corruption involved in these cases. So you are wrong. When they kill these animals they are doing their jobs. Arrest corrupt cops all day. But these are not corrupt cops they are fucking heroes.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 22, 2014, 12:13:13 PM

False equivalence. These scumbags were ALL resisting arrest or assaulting cops at the time they were killed. Your point MIGHT stand if was any actual corruption involved in these cases. So you are wrong. When they kill these animals they are doing their jobs. Arrest corrupt cops all day. But these are not corrupt cops they are fucking heroes.

I never pointed out a particular case. Please indicate to where I pointed out a particular case. Go ahead. I was speaking in GENERAL TERMS!!

All I stated was that those cops who engage in police brutality and who are corrupt need to be held accountable. And often they are not, because other cops cover for them or they do not tell the whole truth.

I never once indicated a particular case. All I said was that those who do wrong need to be penalized, and they often are not, due to corruption.

Its a false statement to assume we shouldn't call the cops when we need help because we want the bad cops to be held accountable for their actions.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 22, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
I never pointed out a particular case. Please indicate to where I pointed out a particular case. Go ahead.

All I stated was that those cops who engage in police brutality and who are corrupt need to be held accountable. And often they are not, because other cops cover for them or they do not tell the whole truth.

I never once indicated a particular case. All I said was that those who do wrong need to be penalized, and they often are not, due to corruption.

Its a false statement to assume we shouldn't call the cops when we need help because we want the bad cops to be held accountable for their actions.

Cop hating back track of the year.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 22, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
Cop hating back track of the year.

haha, lol. If I hated cops, I would have no problem stating so. Its not like there would be any negative consequences associated with my belief.

Fact of the matter is that you did not understand my post. Never once did I state or talk about a particular case, but youre so furious, that you interpreted it that way. Keep trying :)
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Thick Nick on December 22, 2014, 12:27:31 PM
haha, lol. If I hated cops, I would have no problem stating so. Its not like there would be any negative consequences associated with my belief.

Fact of the matter is that you did not understand my post. Never once did I state or talk about a particular case, but youre so furious, that you interpreted it that way. Keep trying :)

Fail. This thread is specific to one case so epic fail and epic backtrack. You are correct there are no consequences to posting your hate here it's sad that you will not face any consequences with the police taking a week off because they wouldn't do that. Too bad.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: SF1900 on December 22, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Fail. This thread is specific to one case so epic fail and epic backtrack. You are correct there are no consequences to posting your hate here it's sad that you will not face any consequences with the police taking a week off because they wouldn't do that. Too bad.

Exactly. So if I truly hated cops, Id say so. It would have no negative consequences on my job, life, etc.

However, you are correct, that posting a general statement in a thread about a particular case was probably not the best idea.

I still stand by my stance that cops that engage in corrupt behavior are often not punished appropriately. Cops will have each others back until the end, even when they are in the wrong. The LAPD is a notoriously corrupt organization and continues to be so.
Title: Re: Looks like Deblasio is going to have to watch his own back
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2014, 12:37:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/23/nyregion/mayor-bill-de-blasio-nypd-officers-shooting.html


Now that fake wop is calling for an end to the protests