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I wonder how many millions of dollars the city of New York is losing on this ordeal??
Maybe we can get Keyboard Police Commissioner "Skip8282" to go in there and fire the whole department. :-\ :-X
New York Police Department arrests were down “66 percent” during the week of Christmas, compared to arrests for the same time period in 2013. This drop comes as “officers feel betrayed by [Mayor Bill de Blasio] and fear for their safety.”
According to the New York Post, the “66 percent” drop in arrests is complimented by a “94 percent” drop in “traffic tickets and summons for minor offenses.” In fact, “summonses for low-level offenses like public drinking and urination … dropped from 4,831 to 300″ from this time period in 2013 to 2014.
The drops in arrests, tickets, and summons became evident just days after the December 20 executions of NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos. And that heinous crime, of course, was preceded by the jury’s decision in Eric Garner’s death and the criticism de Blasio leveled against the NYPD thereafter.
Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association President Pat Lynch told NYPD officers to protect themselves because de Blasio would not.
Lynch told officers, “If we won’t get supported when we do our jobs, if we’re going to get hurt for doing what’s right then we’re going to do it the way they want it. We will use extreme discretion in every encounter.”
Elaborating, he said, “Our friends, we’re courteous to them. Our enemies, extreme discretion. The rules are made by them to hurt you. We’ll now use those rules to protect us.”
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Amid "safety concerns"? Bullshit. Please.
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Amid "safety concerns"? Bullshit. Please.
What happens now?
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What happens now?
I guess we have to ask the cops, as they seem to be doing their own thing.
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they are meeting tonight mayor and police
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Amid "safety concerns"? Bullshit. Please.
you dont think the NYPD is in a heightened period of threats?
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you dont think the NYPD is in a heightened period of threats?
2 police officers executed.
Protesters shouting "Death to Police"
Nothing to see here.
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you dont think the NYPD is in a heightened period of threats?
...to cause a sufficient number of officers to independently conclude they can no longer do their jobs properly, resulting in 66% less activity?
No. Not for one minute.
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there a new sheriff in town his name is jack t cross
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you dont think that every cop out there patrolling the street is looking over their shoulder now?
what drop off % would you deem related to that?
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when your the keyboard sheriff concern is not an option :D
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So tickets, etc., have sharply dropped, and is attached to the following reasoning:
Lynch told officers, “If we won’t get supported when we do our jobs, if we’re going to get hurt for doing what’s right then we’re going to do it the way they want it. We will use extreme discretion in every encounter.
He says it is a matter of "discretion", I see. And the result is fewer tickets, etc...interesting path they are stepping onto in order to support the meltdown.
Really hilarious to see, if it wasn't so pathetic.
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Sorry, but these are the words of a madman:
Elaborating, he said, “Our friends, we’re courteous to them. Our enemies, extreme discretion. The rules are made by them to hurt you. We’ll now use those rules to protect us.”
Where the fuck do they find these guys?
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you dont think that every cop out there patrolling the street is looking over their shoulder now?
what drop off % would you deem related to that?
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Who are you asking, Tony? Anyone?
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2 police officers executed.
Protesters shouting "Death to Police"
Nothing to see here.
I think "kill the cops" was actually "Killer cops" - didn't FOX 5 admit that?
Also, how in the world is it the mayor's fault that some crazy a-hole decided to kill 2 cops? seriously, they want a scapegoat, but unless the mayor told people to do that... WTF why are they so angry at mayor?
he told his kid "be careful arouond cops", which is GOOD advice. outside of that - are they just looking for a bad guy?
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Who are you asking, Tony? Anyone?
the only who seems to take issue with it in this thread....YOU!
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when your the keyboard sheriff concern is not an option :D
I'd fire em all and send the K-9's to the dog pound!
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Well, if they do this for a week - and there's a big spike in traffic accident deaths - that won't be the mayor's fault, that'll be the cops fault for stopping fewer speeders, etc.
And when the cops bitch about their budget next year because their income declined in Dec/Jan, well, they should remember who was writingthe tickets.
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you dont think that every cop out there patrolling the street is looking over their shoulder now?
No, I think they're spending time pretty much the way they've gotten used to throughout their careers. The individual cops with mental disorders may be looking for someone to blast - quick - but that would be a threat against the citizen.
what drop off % would you deem related to that?
With or without an organized effort?
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No, I think they're spending time pretty much the way they've gotten used to throughout their careers. The individual cops with mental disorders may be looking for someone to blast - quick - but that would be a threat against the citizen.
With or without an organized effort?
lol so you dont think any of them feel they have to be more cautious in light of recent attacks on cops especially in NY?
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...by the way: anyone that thinks there aren't trouble-makers planted into these demonstrations to persuade others to do unacceptable things, doesn't know fuck-all.
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lol so you dont think any of them feel they have to be more cautious in light of recent attacks on cops especially in NY?
It would be pretty dumb to think that, wouldn't it?
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...by the way: anyone that thinks there aren't trouble-makers planted into these demonstrations to persuade others to do unacceptable things, doesn't know fuck-all.
LOL so now its a CT?
its unknown trouble makers who are getting people to assault cops, punch them, make threats toward them, call for dead cops and actually kill them?
It would be pretty dumb to think that, wouldn't it?
I would say so but you have side stepped the questions as to agree with it.
So what % of drop off in efficiency do you think is a result of that?
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LOL so now its a CT?
its unknown trouble makers who are getting people to assault cops, punch them, make threats toward them, call for dead cops and actually kill them?
The average person that would have genuine and legitimate objection to police misconduct, has absolutely NO INTEREST in victimizing others.
I would say so but you have side stepped the questions as to agree with it.
So what % of drop off in efficiency do you think is a result of that?
Without organized effort, very little. Individuals would want to appear to be doing their job, as always. (Tickets, etc., are taken as an indicator of someone's job performance in this case, if you didn't know.)
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The average person that would have genuine and legitimate objection to police misconduct, has absolutely NO INTEREST in victimizing others.
well then it seems that these protests are full of below average people.
There are plenty of instances of threats, assaults, calls for violence and actual violence from these protestors
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There are plenty of instances of threats, assaults, calls for violence and actual violence from these protestors
Yes, and that's unacceptable. In essence, it's a form of terrorism. Change of this type has to be peaceful and legitimate through laws, courts, etc.
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LOL so now its a CT?
I remember Gov Scott Walker joking about how he thought about planting troublemakers in peaceful protests, but didn't think he'd get away with it. So do you. In his own words.
SO yes, it's entirely possible they would do that - particularly a group like the NYPD that knocked the shit out of a man on christmas eve for doing a stupid ellen dance. Straight assault for a legal dance. period. Fuck them.
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I remember Gov Scott Walker joking about how he thought about planting troublemakers in peaceful protests, but didn't think he'd get away with it. So do you. In his own words.
SO yes, it's entirely possible they would do that - particularly a group like the NYPD that knocked the shit out of a man on christmas eve for doing a stupid ellen dance. Straight assault for a legal dance. period. Fuck them.
where the plants the ones commiting the violent acts against the cops in your CT as well?
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well then it seems that these protests are full of below average people.
There are plenty of instances of threats, assaults, calls for violence and actual violence from these protestors
People are frustrated, no doubt about it. But a person either wants to make things right or they don't. The worst thing in the world is to fail to separate the two types when you're judging it, because you will lose perspective.
The old white guy that got beat up by others at the protest location, for instance, was actually trying to stop people from smashing into businesses.
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People are frustrated, no doubt about it. But a person either wants to make things right or they don't. The worst thing in the world is to fail to separate the two types when you're judging it, because you will lose perspective.
The old white guy that got beat up by others at the protest location, for instance, was actually trying to stop people from smashing into businesses.
you dont think youre losing perspective on the cops by failing to seperate the good cops from the few bad ones?
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you dont think youre losing perspective on the cops by failing to seperate the good cops from the few bad ones?
No, as my perspective fully supports good cops. A good cop couldn't possibly ask a citizen to have a better perspective.
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No, as my perspective fully supports good cops. A good cop couldn't possibly ask a citizen to have a better perspective.
really you seem to be very anti cop in general
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really you seem to be very anti cop in general
tony, you saw the "ellen" video. Do you believe the cop that shoved down the obnoxious man that broke no law should be charged with assault?
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really you seem to be very anti cop in general
No, I want the police departments to work as they are intended to work. That's all.
There are many well-intentioned people involved in police work. I respect and appreciate that, very much.
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Well, if they do this for a week - and there's a big spike in traffic accident deaths - that won't be the mayor's fault, that'll be the cops fault for stopping fewer speeders, etc.
And when the cops bitch about their budget next year because their income declined in Dec/Jan, well, they should remember who was writingthe tickets.
all it's going to show is that the speed limits do little to reduce rates of traffic deaths
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all it's going to show is that the speed limits do little to reduce rates of traffic deaths
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If cops suddenly halt stopping people, and deaths climb, that's going to look very bad for them.
Likewise, if street crime goes up, if robberies or car theft goes up, if a higher rate of murders go unsolved...
Well, it's not going to be popular with the people who live in a city full of crime - because police are upset about what a mayor said. Punish the mayor, not the taxpayer youo swore to protect.
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If cops suddenly halt stopping people, and deaths climb, that's going to look very bad for them.
Likewise, if street crime goes up, if robberies or car theft goes up, if a higher rate of murders go unsolved...
Well, it's not going to be popular with the people who live in a city full of crime - because police are upset about what a mayor said. Punish the mayor, not the taxpayer youo swore to protect.
I go out of town for christmas only to return to see you're still full of shit.
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Hey - the communists and racist left voted in this pos - grab the popcorn and watch the meltdown
I wonder how many millions of dollars the city of New York is losing on this ordeal??
Maybe we can get Keyboard Police Commissioner "Skip8282" to go in there and fire the whole department. :-\ :-X
New York Police Department arrests were down “66 percent” during the week of Christmas, compared to arrests for the same time period in 2013. This drop comes as “officers feel betrayed by [Mayor Bill de Blasio] and fear for their safety.”
According to the New York Post, the “66 percent” drop in arrests is complimented by a “94 percent” drop in “traffic tickets and summons for minor offenses.” In fact, “summonses for low-level offenses like public drinking and urination … dropped from 4,831 to 300″ from this time period in 2013 to 2014.
The drops in arrests, tickets, and summons became evident just days after the December 20 executions of NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos. And that heinous crime, of course, was preceded by the jury’s decision in Eric Garner’s death and the criticism de Blasio leveled against the NYPD thereafter.
Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association President Pat Lynch told NYPD officers to protect themselves because de Blasio would not.
Lynch told officers, “If we won’t get supported when we do our jobs, if we’re going to get hurt for doing what’s right then we’re going to do it the way they want it. We will use extreme discretion in every encounter.”
Elaborating, he said, “Our friends, we’re courteous to them. Our enemies, extreme discretion. The rules are made by them to hurt you. We’ll now use those rules to protect us.”
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I think "kill the cops" was actually "Killer cops" - didn't FOX 5 admit that?
Also, how in the world is it the mayor's fault that some crazy a-hole decided to kill 2 cops? seriously, they want a scapegoat, but unless the mayor told people to do that... WTF why are they so angry at mayor?
he told his kid "be careful arouond cops", which is GOOD advice. outside of that - are they just looking for a bad guy?
Stop lying. They asshole liberals and communists you love so much screamed in protest - "whatdo we want? DEAD COPS! WHEN DO WE WANT IT! NOW!"
you want the video?
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Stop lying. They asshole liberals and communists you love so much screamed in protest - "whatdo we want? DEAD COPS! WHEN DO WE WANT IT! NOW!"
you want the video?
you are referring to another incident. The one I referenced was in the news and used "kill" in the phrasing. So please don't mix up the two.
And yes, shockingly, there are always going to be pockets of protesters that will yell idiotic shit like this, like KKK stuff, like nazi stuff, etc. They're idiots, but what can you do?
You can enforce the law. You can write better laws to keep people back from cops unless cops initiate the contact. I love a 1o or 20 feet "no initiation" law where you cannot get in a cop's shit like the dancing douochebag.
Now, when you say "asshole liberals and communists you love so much", I think you're being a tad dramatic. I think we all know that 240 could let them die in a fire while eating S'mores and give no fcks about the whiny lib BBQ going on. My beef isn't due to pity for the pitiful. Rather, it's about shitting on cops that break rules or assault people.
I think the dancing Ellen douocebag deserves many swift kicks to the head for his idiocy,, and the protesters screaming this stuff deserve a nice firehosing with hot sauce. But I respect the law more - and it seems more than the NYPD who shove and batter people as they see fit.
I respect the law. Would love to see protesters and violent cops side by side in jail cells. No need to defend one idiot group in order to attack the others. Violent cops & violent protesters both deserve a boiling gravy bukkake session, I'm cool with that. No love for 'asshole liberals and communists', sorry man.
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Hey - the communists and racist left voted in this pos - grab the popcorn and watch the meltdown
That's all you can really do at this point.
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That's all you can really do at this point.
72% of the state wanted that douchebag in office?
i'm guessins 72% of NYC is liberal, that sounds about right.
And even some of the "conservatives" support liberal idiot issues while wearing their republican t-shirts, which is even worse for conservatism in NYC. "I'm a republican but I'm okay with gun contorl in NYC because..." or "I'm a republican, but amnesty could work because..."
Worse than libs.
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No its not pockets!!! The commie thug pos mayor endorsed these protests remember?
you are referring to another incident. The one I referenced was in the news and used "kill" in the phrasing. So please don't mix up the two.
And yes, shockingly, there are always going to be pockets of protesters that will yell idiotic shit like this, like KKK stuff, like nazi stuff, etc. They're idiots, but what can you do?
You can enforce the law. You can write better laws to keep people back from cops unless cops initiate the contact. I love a 1o or 20 feet "no initiation" law where you cannot get in a cop's shit like the dancing douochebag.
Now, when you say "asshole liberals and communists you love so much", I think you're being a tad dramatic. I think we all know that 240 could let them die in a fire while eating S'mores and give no fcks about the whiny lib BBQ going on. My beef isn't due to pity for the pitiful. Rather, it's about shitting on cops that break rules or assault people.
I think the dancing Ellen douocebag deserves many swift kicks to the head for his idiocy,, and the protesters screaming this stuff deserve a nice firehosing with hot sauce. But I respect the law more - and it seems more than the NYPD who shove and batter people as they see fit.
I respect the law. Would love to see protesters and violent cops side by side in jail cells. No need to defend one idiot group in order to attack the others. Violent cops & violent protesters both deserve a boiling gravy bukkake session, I'm cool with that. No love for 'asshole liberals and communists', sorry man.
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No its not pockets!!! The commie thug pos mayor endorsed these protests remember?
Not pockets?
So among the people protesting police abuse, how widespread is the "kill a cop for justice" sentiment, do you think?
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Not pockets?
So among the people protesting police abuse, how widespread is the "kill a cop for justice" sentiment, do you think?
It's difficult to measure. Some will be vocal while others will not be. BTW, one of your buddies you exhange pms with sent me a stuff on you and wants me to post it. I won't. Be careful who you talk to.
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It's difficult to measure. Some will be vocal while others will not be. BTW, one of your buddies you exhange pms with sent me a stuff on you and wants me to post it. I won't. Be careful who you talk to.
Doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Doesn't surprise me one bit.
Ridiculous people on this site sometimes.
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Ridiculous people on this site sometimes.
I wouldn't do it because I'm not that kind of fella. I've decided not to reply to pms myself. People take conversations from pm and bring them to the board. And RRkore, for verification I will only say I hope you and your wife(chanisa?) had as much fun in Thailand as it looks like you did.
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Charles Bronson would know how to solve this little 'protestor problem'.
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Charles Bronson would know how to solve this little 'protestor problem'.
I know a little about Paul Kersey
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I dont know any 'Paul Kersey'...im Paul Kimble. ;)
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I wouldn't do it because I'm not that kind of fella. I've decided not to reply to pms myself. People take conversations from pm and bring them to the board. And RRkore, for verification I will only say I hope you and your wife(chanisa?) had as much fun in Thailand as it looks like you did.
Fuckin' A, we did have a great time!!
Made all these folks grumbling about shit here in the USA and on this board look like they're misusing their time because they don't know how fun life can be.
I wish I had known about Thailand and its crazy culture (so, so different than in the West) when I was a lot younger.
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Fuckin' A, we did have a great time!!
Made all these folks grumbling about shit here in the USA and on this board look like they're misusing their time because they don't know how fun life can be.
I wish I had known about Thailand and its crazy culture (so, so different than in the West) when I was a lot younger.
Serious question. Whats the cost difference between going to Thailand and say someplace like Hawaii or Fiji? I've been to Hawaii four out of the last five years. I love everything about Hawaii but am looking for something different. I'd like to maximize my dollars as well.
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Serious question. Whats the cost difference between going to Thailand and say someplace like Hawaii or Fiji? I've been to Hawaii four out of the last five years. I love everything about Hawaii but am looking for something different. I'd like to maximize my dollars as well.
Jeezus freakin' Christ!! Are you kidding!?!?! Thailand DESTROYS Hawaii.
I've only been to Kauai, but it was after having been to Thailand so it was pretty much "meh". If you ask me, the only thing better about Hawaii is the waves and probably folks in Hawaii are better drivers than Thai people (for whom traffic laws are only traffic suggestions, lol.)
Thailand is far cheaper, there's no crime to worry about as a tourist, and about a million times more culturally interesting than Hawaii and, except for surfing decent waves, anything you can do in Hawaii you can do in Thailand. And then some.
If you haven't been to Thailand before but like beach vacations, then I'd recommend the big island of Phuket somewhere not far from Patong Beach which is the nightlife center. If Patong Beach is too touristy for you, you can always relocate to a quieter part of the island but you'll probably want to rent a car (about $30-/day) if you do that. My first 3 trips to Phuket I rented a motorcycle (a CB400, I think, for about $12/day) but I don't do that anymore since crashing in 2009.
So, what kind of stuff do you do on vacation in Hawaii? Re: price, it depends on how cheap you want to be and what kind of activities you like to do. If you stay in a crappy place with no AC (I don't recommend this), eat street food only (street food is the bomb -- I could eat the $2- grilled chicken and sticky rice every day), and "pre-drink" at 7/11, you can get by on surprisingly little money.
No matter what, though, most activities are much cheaper (less than half) than what you'd pay for the same thing here in the USA. So, bungee jumping, go-kart racing, para-sailing, sea-kayaking around small islands, snorkeling, ATV tours, attending Muay Thai fights, seeing a ladyboy cabaret and watching, uh, ping-pong sex shows are all things I've done in or near Phuket. Zip-lining, elephant trekking, going to the shooting range, fishing, or tours of various gaudy temples are things I haven't done -- but not because they're too expensive. It's easy to be a baller in Thailand, lol.
For my wife and I, we've found that budgeting about $100-/per day (includes hotel but not car rental) is fine. We usually limit our hotel choices to places that are no more than $50-/night and prefer hotels with no more than about 50 rooms. (The hotel we liked the best this trip is called The Viridian which was offering a special rate on Agoda.com.)
BTW, I'm assuming you're bringing your woman so you'll probably be spending money on massages and salon stuff (body scrubs, facials, and the like) all of which is much, much cheaper than in the West. Women also usually like all the knock-off goods you can find everywhere. One year I bought fake Gucci purses for every female in my family and they were a big hit, lol.
Also, you are a guy with a lot of gym miles on you, right? If so, then a vigorous 1 or 2 hour Thai (like a deep tissue) massage (for about $15-) is something that you'll want to do at least every other day. Seriously, it can be glorious. This last trip there was this one awesome massage lady who I didn't think would do a good job because she was so slight but there was a point when she was walking sideways up my back balancing on the edges of her feet while working her way up my spinal erectors when I swear that my appreciation for her started turning into something like love, lol.
If you're going without your woman then, well, you won't be without female company for long but that will usually cost you, although your mileage may vary. (And, actually, they say to beware of the Thai woman with whom you hook up but doesn't want any money the following morning -- She's trying to get you caught up in the long con, lol.)
Check it out yourself; Go to agoda.com and check hotel prices in phuket, patong beach. What I like to do is just book the first couple of nights and then use Agoda's "flash deals" to find hotels offering huge temporary discounts so we can stay at nice places and not pay much. There are so many hotels in Phuket these days that this strategy works even during high season.
Feel free to ask any more questions. Here's a couple of non-nightlife videos I like to show folks (with wives) who are interested in checking out Thailand:
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Jeezus freakin' Christ!! Are you kidding!?!?! Thailand DESTROYS Hawaii.
I've only been to Kauai, but it was after having been to Thailand so it was pretty much "meh". If you ask me, the only thing better about Hawaii is the waves and probably folks in Hawaii are better drivers than Thai people (for whom traffic laws are only traffic suggestions, lol.)
You've only been to Kauai, but Thailand "DESTROYS Hawaii"? lol You realize there are eight islands in Hawaii?
I've been to several Asian countries and some islands in that part of the world, but never Thailand. Hawaii destroys Thailand.
See how uninformed that sounds?
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You've only been to Kauai, but Thailand "DESTROYS Hawaii"? lol You realize there are eight islands in Hawaii?
I've been to several Asian countries and some islands in that part of the world, but never Thailand. Hawaii destroys Thailand.
See how uninformed that sounds?
Whatever.
I was expressing my opinion about the subject of which vacation place is better so subjectivity is unavoidable and expressing opinions without being completely informed could be the motto of this board, actually.
Honestly, that argument (that expressing opinion without being completely informed is in keeping with this board and so it should be ok) should resonate with you since it's something you do yourself. (I will cite your posts about the danger of Ebola in the USA as just one example.)
But, anyway, subjective or not, if you'd like to try to debate me about any of the Hawaiian islands being a better vacation spot than some places in Southern Thailand when "bang for the buck" is an important factor (as Archer's post seemed to indicate) then look forward to losing.
Happy New Year!
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Whatever.
I was expressing my opinion about the subject of which vacation place is better so subjectivity is unavoidable and expressing opinions without being completely informed could be the motto of this board, actually.
Honestly, that argument (that expressing opinion without being completely informed is in keeping with this board and so it should be ok) should resonate with you since it's something you do yourself. (I will cite your posts about the danger of Ebola in the USA as just one example.)
But, anyway, subjective or not, if you'd like to try to debate me about any of the Hawaiian islands being a better vacation spot than some places in Southern Thailand when "bang for the buck" is an important factor (as Archer's post seemed to indicate) then look forward to losing.
Happy New Year!
I'm not going to debate you about whether Thailand is a better vacation spot than Hawaii, because I've never been to Thailand. You don't know squat about Hawaii, but that isn't going to stop you from talking out of your rear end. Was just trying to enlighten you a little. Obviously futile.
Happy New Year.
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I'm not going to debate you about whether Thailand is a better vacation spot than Hawaii, because I've never been to Thailand. You don't know squat about Hawaii, but that isn't going to stop you from talking out of your rear end. Was just trying to enlighten you a little. Obviously futile.
Happy New Year.
Enlighten me? lol About what? That you think that I shouldn't pass judgement on Hawaii without having been to other islands? Because that's all you've said.
How's about you read the rest of my long-ass post about vacationing in Phuket, not just the part where you think I unfairly dissed Hawaii? Then YOU will be the one being enlightened, I'm thinking.
Funny thing is that you're not even disagreeing with me about whether Thailand IS better or not just that you don't think I have enough info to speak so authoritatively. (Which is totally a case of the pot calling the kettle black, lol.)
It's almost like you're joking by saying I'm not informed enough about Hawaii to have an opinion and then follow that up by saying I don't know squat (about Hawaii). Because if not knowing "squat" means I don't know anything then you're exaggerating because what I do know is that Phuket, which has similar looking beaches, is the more culturally interesting place for Americans looking for new experiences, is more free of crime, and is by far the better value.
If there are islands in the chain where all of that isn't true, then I'm all ears. We don't need to debate, it'd just be you laying a little knowledge on me and I'll be better off for it.
Seriously, if you want to extol the virtues of Hawaii, I promise I'll listen.
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Enlighten me? lol About what? That you think that I shouldn't pass judgement on Hawaii without having been to other islands? Because that's all you've said.
How's about you read the rest of my long-ass post about vacationing in Phuket, not just the part where you think I unfairly dissed Hawaii? Then YOU will be the one being enlightened, I'm thinking.
Funny thing is that you're not even disagreeing with me about whether Thailand IS better or not just that you don't think I have enough info to speak so authoritatively. (Which is totally a case of the pot calling the kettle black, lol.)
It's almost like you're joking by saying I'm not informed enough about Hawaii to have an opinion and then follow that up by saying I don't know squat (about Hawaii). Because if not knowing "squat" means I don't know anything then you're exaggerating because what I do know is that Phuket, which has similar looking beaches, is the more culturally interesting place for Americans looking for new experiences, is more free of crime, and is by far the better value.
If there are islands in the chain where all of that isn't true, then I'm all ears. We don't need to debate, it'd just be you laying a little knowledge on me and I'll be better off for it.
Seriously, if you want to extol the virtues of Hawaii, I promise I'll listen.
You are missing the point, which happens often. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other. I'm saying you don't have enough information to say one is vastly superior to the other, because unlike you, I've been to all of the islands and lived here for a very long time, and you've probably spent a few days on one of the smaller islands in the state, which gives you very little perspective.
I could care less whether you or anyone else actually likes one place better than the other. That's not the point I'm making. It's about talking about of your rear end.
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You are missing the point, which happens often. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other. I'm saying you don't have enough information to say one is vastly superior to the other, because unlike you, I've been to all of the islands and lived here for a very long time, and you've probably spent a few days on one of the smaller islands in the state, which gives you very little perspective.
I could care less whether you or anyone else actually likes one place better than the other. That's not the point I'm making. It's about talking about of your rear end.
Dude, really?
I'm missing the point of what you've said? No, I get your point and paraphrased it in at least 2 places in my post that you've quoted.
I just think you're being hypocritical when you make it since you do this kind of thing a lot yourself. (Ebola, remember?)
I also think it's silly to focus on that part of my post when A) There was a lot of worthwhile stuff in that post and B) The post was directed at a specific person who is not you.
Serious question: Do you make these kinds of posts that add so little to the board where you correct someone over something trivial along with mild insults because you're trying, as a mod, to get action on the board via a response? Because surely there must be a lot of other things you could be doing that are more fun, right?
Methinks you should go to Phuket, if you can afford it. One thing I forgot to mention is that there are many, many, many older tourists there -- and they're smiling lot teenagers, many of them.
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Dude, really?
I'm missing the point of what you've said? No, I get your point and paraphrased it in at least 2 places in my post that you've quoted.
I just think you're being hypocritical when you make it since you do this kind of thing a lot yourself. (Ebola, remember?)
I also think it's silly to focus on that part of my post when A) There was a lot of worthwhile stuff in that post and B) The post was directed at a specific person who is not you.
Serious question: Do you make these kinds of posts that add so little to the board where you correct someone over something trivial along with mild insults because you're trying, as a mod, to get action on the board via a response? Because surely there must be a lot of other things you could be doing that are more fun, right?
Methinks you should go to Phuket, if you can afford it. One thing I forgot to mention is that there are many, many, many older tourists there -- and they're smiling lot teenagers, many of them.
I can see I wasted my time trying to help you understand how uninformed your comment was/is. Does not surprise me.
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I can see I wasted my time trying to help you understand how uninformed your comment was/is. Does not surprise me.
Wasted your time? What are you talking about? I responded to you about 4 times now.
More attention than you've been getting from the rest of the folks here in a while, ya ungrateful so-and-so. ;D
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Sorry to have derailed this thread.
Here's a relevant funny to get it back on track:
(http://i.imgur.com/FbOHJ7n.png)
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Enlighten me? lol About what? That you think that I shouldn't pass judgement on Hawaii without having been to other islands? Because that's all you've said.
How's about you read the rest of my long-ass post about vacationing in Phuket, not just the part where you think I unfairly dissed Hawaii? Then YOU will be the one being enlightened, I'm thinking.
Funny thing is that you're not even disagreeing with me about whether Thailand IS better or not just that you don't think I have enough info to speak so authoritatively. (Which is totally a case of the pot calling the kettle black, lol.)
It's almost like you're joking by saying I'm not informed enough about Hawaii to have an opinion and then follow that up by saying I don't know squat (about Hawaii). Because if not knowing "squat" means I don't know anything then you're exaggerating because what I do know is that Phuket, which has similar looking beaches, is the more culturally interesting place for Americans looking for new experiences, is more free of crime, and is by far the better value.
If there are islands in the chain where all of that isn't true, then I'm all ears. We don't need to debate, it'd just be you laying a little knowledge on me and I'll be better off for it.
Seriously, if you want to extol the virtues of Hawaii, I promise I'll listen.
Phuket is a corrupt, polluted, dangerous shit hole.
Patong is pretty much the anus of theplace.
Go there a few more times. I bet your perspective changes.
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Keep it up, dipshits...pretty soon you'll have a police force that does nothing but respond after the fact to calls. No patrols..no public interaction. Just a bunch of guys and gals sitting in the station avoiding any contact with the general populace for fear of lawsuits and murder attempts.
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arrests and tickets could be down because of the stated reason. However the difference between December of 2013 and 2014 is that NYPD likely were being tagged with special initiatives and assignments due to the unrest and the drop was a byproduct of that.
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Sorry to have derailed this thread.
Here's a relevant funny to get it back on track:
(http://i.imgur.com/FbOHJ7n.png)
Except when you say police, you mean one department in CT. We've never disqualified anyone due to "too high" of an IQ. I don't even think that's measured.
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Keep it up, dipshits...pretty soon you'll have a police force that does nothing but respond after the fact to calls. No patrols..no public interaction. Just a bunch of guys and gals sitting in the station avoiding any contact with the general populace for fear of lawsuits and murder attempts.
Nah. 99% of what NY police do is revenue collection. In general, the city is exactly as safe as it was 2 weeks ago.
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Sorry to have derailed this thread.
Here's a relevant funny to get it back on track:
(http://i.imgur.com/FbOHJ7n.png)
Even if that is true they still have an IQ at least twenty points higher than the average street thug.
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Nah. 99% of what NY police do is revenue collection. In general, the city is exactly as safe as it was 2 weeks ago.
So then why are people upset? The nogs are protesting broken windows policing no?
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So then why are people upset? The nogs are protesting broken windows policing no?
Who is upset? Are they claiming the city is more dangerous now than it was 2 weeks ago?
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Wasted your time? What are you talking about? I responded to you about 4 times now.
More attention than you've been getting from the rest of the folks here in a while, ya ungrateful so-and-so. ;D
What the heck are you babbling about??
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Phuket is a corrupt, polluted, dangerous shit hole.
Patong is pretty much the anus of theplace.
Go there a few more times. I bet your perspective changes.
But but but
Jeezus freakin' Christ!! Are you kidding!?!?! Thailand DESTROYS Hawaii.
I've only been to Kauai . . .
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But but but
But but but
A friend of mine has a house in Phuket that is currently 'rented out' to a drug dealer who pays no rent and cannot be moved because he's the son of someone in power.
I can't even say who that someone is because by Thai law, it is a criminal offense to say something bad about someone, even if it is true.
Phuket is the most crime ridden part of Thailand.
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Who is upset? Are they claiming the city is more dangerous now than it was 2 weeks ago?
The NYT and its readers are in meltdown over this