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Why does no one care anymore. I mean yeh da cage is where its at but I don't see why that alone killed boxing. Yeh they re both combat sports but baseball, basketball football they re all ball games and one doesn't really affect another.
Boxing sure is done, I mean I just heard the once super prestigious top prize in sport the WBC heavyweight title is on th eline in 2 weeks. WTF. Never knew.
I know about Jones - Cormier tho.
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Boxing is huge... Man on the street has never heard of jon Jones, he's heard of klitchko tho
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Why does no one care anymore. I mean yeh da cage is where its at but I don't see why that alone killed boxing. Yeh they re both combat sports but baseball, basketball football they re all ball games and one doesn't really affect another.
Boxing sure is done, I mean I just heard the once super prestigious top prize in sport the WBC heavyweight title is on th eline in 2 weeks. WTF. Never knew.
I know about Jones - Cormier tho.
Too much corruption, too many fighters who avoid other fighters
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Why does no one care anymore. I mean yeh da cage is where its at but I don't see why that alone killed boxing. Yeh they re both combat sports but baseball, basketball football they re all ball games and one doesn't really affect another.
Boxing sure is done, I mean I just heard the once super prestigious top prize in sport the WBC heavyweight title is on th eline in 2 weeks. WTF. Never knew.
I know about Jones - Cormier tho.
boxings popularity has been cyclical since the 1800s, youre a casual not a boxing fan
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Too much corruption, too many fighters who avoid other fighters
Nah, most of the big fights get made... There's too many belts, but everyone that follows the sport knows who's the boss of each division
Ppv doesn't help, but id still say its as strong as ever, all the big shows in UK are sold out straight away
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I personally think MMA has almost ran it's course. Either I'm not seeing or not noticing but I don't see the fan turnout like it used to be. I'd rather watch boxing.
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I personally think MMA has almost ran it's course. Either I'm not seeing or not noticing but I don't see the fan turnout like it used to be. I'd rather watch boxing.
Agree. The sport has become boring.
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Cue the annual "What about boxing?" thread.
A big boxing match is still a much bigger draw than the best MMA fight. The best MMA fights draw like a medium quality boxing match. Much bigger in the foreign markets too, and now the Chinese are slowly being integrated into the mix.
Also from a fighter's perspective, the money in a middle to high level fight is still better boxing vs MMA. And now with the UFC making that money grab over individual sponserships....? Yikes.
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I personally think MMA has almost ran it's course. Either I'm not seeing or not noticing but I don't see the fan turnout like it used to be. I'd rather watch boxing.
MMA has run it's course. Attendance is way down and the novelty has worn off.
Within the next 20 years I predict we will see "Running man" types of sports and game shows.
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I think MMA is like karate of the 80's-90's. It stems from Kung fu movies, which lead to a Karate Dojo on every corner. It has died off since our generation has grown up. MMA is the new fad, where every douche thinks he's a bad ass because he's rolled around a few times. Boxing is here for the long haul.
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Big boxing fan here....it`s going strong,the heavyweight division just sucks is all.
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MMA ain't going nowhere. Depends which "man on the street" you run into, I guess. All I'm hearing from everyone right now is Jones vs. Cormier.
Where are the Alis, Leonards, Hearns', Haglers, Tysons, DeLaHoyas, etc. these days? We got the Russian, Mayweather, and a washed-up Flip, who else? Who else that this man on the street knows about?
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MMA ain't going nowhere. Depends which "man on the street" you run into, I guess. All I'm hearing from everyone right now is Jones vs. Cormier.
Where are the Alis, Leonards, Hearns', Haglers, Tysons, DeLaHoyas, etc. these days? We got the Russian, Mayweather, and a washed-up Flip, who else? Who else that this man on the street knows about?
Stop asking tough questions! :(
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Boxing has had declines before. The heavyweight division was regarded as "dead" until this Cassius Clay fellow came along... Personally MMA just didn't work for me.
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I personally think MMA has almost ran it's course. Either I'm not seeing or not noticing but I don't see the fan turnout like it used to be. I'd rather watch boxing.
Agreed. I used to get pumped up for all the UFC ppv. All my buddies would get together. That was ages ago, have no clue who's who in the sport now. The reality show is stale now, like any longer running reality show gets. That show was huge for bringing fans to MMA. I don't know that it's dying but it def peaked a couple years back and will never be at professional boxing's level.
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Stop asking tough questions! :(
I'm a fan, Wes. Just don't see many headliners anymore. Plus, the whole boxing vs. MMA zero-sum BS just gets pretty silly afterwhile. If the NBA gets too popular will the NFL fail? Silliness.
In America, at least, here's your barometer: Count the boxing gyms in any given city vs. the MMA/BJJ facilities. And it's VERY different than the Karate/Kung fu trend on the heels of Bruce Lee fame, because MMA retired that nonsense as a form of worthwhile self-defense, which is something that will always interest people. Always has. And if you're practicing it, odds are you're gonna follow the pros, too.
Both sports will be fine.
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Agreed. I used to get pumped up for all the UFC ppv. All my buddies would get together. That was ages ago, have no clue who's who in the sport now. The reality show is stale now, like any longer running reality show gets. That show was huge for bringing fans to MMA. I don't know that it's dying but it def peaked a couple years back and will never be at professional boxing's level.
That's how I've felt about boxing for a while now. But I go through those stretches with MMA, too, but when new superstars appear (and they always do), it gets fun again.
Honestly, don't even know who the boxing stars are anymore, but I'd love to get excited about someone again. Speaking of which, just saw a documentary on Johnny Tapia. My God, what a tough-ass, talented sumbitch. Just too many f'n demons. End obviously bummed me out, though, as one might expect. Had no idea.
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I'm a fan, Wes. Just don't see many headliners anymore. Plus, the whole boxing vs. MMA zero-sum BS just gets pretty silly afterwhile. If the NBA gets too popular will the NFL fail? Silliness.
In America, at least, here's your barometer: Count the boxing gyms in any given city vs. the MMA/BJJ facilities. And it's VERY different than the Karate/Kung fu trend on the heels of Bruce Lee fame, because MMA retired that nonsense as a form of worthwhile self-defense, which is something that will always interest people. Always has. And if you're practicing it, odds are you're gonna follow the pros, too.
Both sports will be fine.
I hear what you`re saying,but I think it`s in a resurgance now.
Lots of good guys out there:
Danny Garcia
Lucas Matthyse (sp)
Omar Figueroa
Tim Bradley
Provatnochov (spelling again ? )
Kell Brook
Gennady Golovkin
Mike Alvarado
Nonito Donaire
Kahn
Marcos Maidana
Mikey Garcia
And a ton of other guys.
Not a lot of good heavyweights though.
Nothing beats the days of Hagler,Hearns,Leonard,Duran,etc. etc.
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I hear what you`re saying,but I think it`s in a resurgance now.
Lots of good guys out there:
Danny Garcia
Lucas Matthyse (sp)
Omar Figueroa
Tim Bradley
Provatnochov (spelling again ? )
Kell Brook
Gennady Golovkin
Mike Alvarado
Nonito Donaire
Kahn
Marcos Maidana
Mikey Garcia
And a ton of other guys.
Not a lot of good heavyweights though.
Nothing beats the days of Hagler,Hearns,Leonard,Duran,etc. etc.
Sorry, I should have been more specific: WHITE guys, I meant.
Ha! Fucking around is all.
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Sorry, I should have been more specific: WHITE guys, I meant.
Ha! Fucking around is all.
White guys.
::)
;D
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Rocky Marciano was white.
I bet I know what you fucked up trying to post! LOL :D
Happy New Year bud!
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Rocky Marciano was white.
#Invalid YouTube Link#
That invalid link better be the Coming to America scene, pal.
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That invalid link better be the Coming to America scene, pal.
That was my guess! :D
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That was my guess! :D
Here:
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There ya` go........funny as Hell! :D
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I like the stand up aspect of MMA but the ground game puts me off. Two big, sweaty dudes lying on top of one another and rolling around on the floor. :-\
It's the closest thing you'll get to watching gay porn without actually doing so. Looks retarded too.
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I like the stand up aspect of MMA but the ground game puts me off. Two big, sweaty dudes lying on top of one another and rolling around on the floor. :-\
It's the cloest thing you'll get to watching gay porn without actually doing so. Looks retarded too.
Not a fan of grappling either.
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Most white people I know aren't even interested in boxing. It's mostly Mexicans and blacks
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Most white people I know aren't even interested in boxing. It's mostly Mexicans and blacks
With white Americans maybe, but in Europe boxing is still big. Fights in Germany for instance are major events, pulling in millions of viewers and selling out large stadiums like the Imtech or Veltins Arena.
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???
Leo Santa Cruz and all 122 chumps ducking Rigondeaux
Superman Stevenson ducking Kovalev
Kid Chocolate and Lineal Champ Cotto ducking GGG
Amir "chinless" Khan Job ducking Keith Thurman and Kell Brook
GGG calling out any 168 fighter but Andre Ward
demetrius andrade ducking the Jermell "boxer" and Jermall "pressure fighter/puncher" Charlo
Danny Garcia ducking mauricio herrera
FMW Jr cherry picking
Manny Pac cherry picking
Chavez Jr ducking his Top Rank Contract
Mikey Garcia ducking Terrance Crawford, Gamboa and his Top Rank Contract
Andre Ward ducking his dead promoter's, Goosseen, standing contract.
brandon rios ducking provodnikov
Broner ducking Lucas Matthysse
Maidana ducking Thurman for the 3rd time.
Guerrero ducking Thurman
Lara :( ducking Andrade
Gabe Rasado is the only fighter who will fight anyone. No wonder he has lost his last 4 or 5 fights in a row. In reality he should be the one ducking.
Quack Squad Boxing
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Boxing is awesome but it's missing a main attraction right now.
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If Mike Tyson came along now he d be massive, bigger than fuckin any athlete out there.
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???
Leo Santa Cruz and all 122 chumps ducking Rigondeaux
Superman Stevenson ducking Kovalev
Kid Chocolate and Lineal Champ Cotto ducking GGG
Amir "chinless" Khan Job ducking Keith Thurman and Kell Brook
GGG calling out any 168 fighter but Andre Ward
demetrius andrade ducking the Jermell "boxer" and Jermall "pressure fighter/puncher" Charlo
Danny Garcia ducking mauricio herrera
FMW Jr cherry picking
Manny Pac cherry picking
Chavez Jr ducking his Top Rank Contract
Mikey Garcia ducking Terrance Crawford, Gamboa and his Top Rank Contract
Andre Ward ducking his dead promoter's, Goosseen, standing contract.
brandon rios ducking provodnikov
Broner ducking Lucas Matthysse
Maidana ducking Thurman for the 3rd time.
Guerrero ducking Thurman
Lara :( ducking Andrade
Gabe Rasado is the only fighter who will fight anyone. No wonder he has lost his last 4 or 5 fights in a row. In reality he should be the one ducking.
Quack Squad Boxing
This.x2.
To many World titles/ Champs with all the different alphabet federations.
There are some very good fighters at all weights rarely do we get to so them fight each
Other as they don't have to, They can all be World Campions.
And far to many weight divisions adds to the confusion & lack of public interest.
It's little more than WWE at the moment.
I box & have a lot interest & like the history.
At this time it's a charade to extract $.
We should go back to 1 world champion in each division.
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I'm liking boxing more than MMA these days - we've had some good UK fighters doing well recently - Khan's last win was good, Froch v Groves 1 and 2 were good talking points, and Anthony Joshua is on the rise and could be a serious contender soon. Worldwide we've still to see Mayweather v Pacquaio which I believe will happen fingers crossed.
Heavyweight boxing does suck a little though and we need another Tyson to fire up that weight category. Tyson Fury still isn't that convincing and the Klitchkos are starting to near the end of their careers with no realistically challenging opponents.
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One Klitschkos gone and the other is finishing up this year.
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Too many Mexicans. Not enough big name heavyweights. All it needs are a couple big named heavyweights and it would surpass Mma again.
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???
Leo Santa Cruz and all 122 chumps ducking Rigondeaux
Superman Stevenson ducking Kovalev
Kid Chocolate and Lineal Champ Cotto ducking GGG
Amir "chinless" Khan Job ducking Keith Thurman and Kell Brook
GGG calling out any 168 fighter but Andre Ward
demetrius andrade ducking the Jermell "boxer" and Jermall "pressure fighter/puncher" Charlo
Danny Garcia ducking mauricio herrera
FMW Jr cherry picking
Manny Pac cherry picking
Chavez Jr ducking his Top Rank Contract
Mikey Garcia ducking Terrance Crawford, Gamboa and his Top Rank Contract
Andre Ward ducking his dead promoter's, Goosseen, standing contract.
brandon rios ducking provodnikov
Broner ducking Lucas Matthysse
Maidana ducking Thurman for the 3rd time.
Guerrero ducking Thurman
Lara :( ducking Andrade
Gabe Rasado is the only fighter who will fight anyone. No wonder he has lost his last 4 or 5 fights in a row. In reality he should be the one ducking.
Quack Squad Boxing
Great list and very true.
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I'm liking boxing more than MMA these days - we've had some good UK fighters doing well recently - Khan's last win was good, Froch v Groves 1 and 2 were good talking points, and Anthony Joshua is on the rise and could be a serious contender soon. Worldwide we've still to see Mayweather v Pacquaio which I believe will happen fingers crossed.
Heavyweight boxing does suck a little though and we need another Tyson to fire up that weight category. Tyson Fury still isn't that convincing and the Klitchkos are starting to near the end of their careers with no realistically challenging opponents.
joshua will be a huge star in the next few years for sure...
i think one of the best things to happen recently was the super 6 in the super mids, some amazing fights,no ducking, no complaints...
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Joshua is a chinny twat whos been KOed by cruisers in sparring.
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Joshua is a chinny twat whos been KOed by cruisers in sparring.
I have heard similar.
Apparently he has trouble with aggressive fighters.
He has looked very good in his fights so far.
Have you seen his training / sparring.
Or is this just bad mouthing by some who have been overlooked.
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Joshua is a chinny twat whos been KOed by cruisers in sparring.
Was never KO'd against top amature heavies, only time will tell tho.. He has the beating of everyone bar haye in the UK at the moment
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Dana White is ruining it and Bjorn Rabney is trying to keep it legit. KSW is a good organization but either way I give MMA 2-3 years.
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Was never KO'd against top amature heavies, only time will tell tho.. He has the beating of everyone bar haye in the UK at the moment
Jamie Heearn who is a repected pro told me this.
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I personally think MMA has almost ran it's course. Either I'm not seeing or not noticing but I don't see the fan turnout like it used to be. I'd rather watch boxing.
It's still growing and growing fast. Even with all the events they put on. It's like practically every week now. That will kill it. Too many shows with too many nobodies.
But watch the turn out tomorrow. Here in Hawaii everyone is on pins and needles counting the minutes.
I so want to see Jones utterly destroyed.
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I haven't spoken to one person who wants Jones to win! Cormier all the way!
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Boxing is awesome but it's missing a main attraction right now.
This is it. Boxing doesn't have anybody with the personality and charisma in the heavyweight ranks, which attracts the masses, like they use to.
I was never a big fan of boxing per se, wasn't educated enough in the science of the sport, but I watch Ali, Foreman, Frasier and Tyson every time they stepped into the ring.
But I didn't have to be an expert to know that this was one very special man
who captivated everyone around the world.
(http://i.imgur.com/LRZwzN5.gif)
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This.x2.
To many World titles/ Champs with all the different alphabet federations.
There are some very good fighters at all weights rarely do we get to so them fight each
Other as they don't have to, They can all be World Campions.
And far to many weight divisions adds to the confusion & lack of public interest.
It's little more than WWE at the moment.
I box & have a lot interest & like the history.
At this time it's a charade to extract $.
We should go back to 1 world champion in each division.
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it's not just that. social media (fanboys) and journalist are letting their favorite loverboys off the hook. the big thing in box now is, his style is boring, so you don't want me to fight him from mr santa cruz or he don't have a twitter fan base or isn't popular enough, so why should i fight him? #1 mandatory don't mean jack in boxing now. ask keith thurman how khan got a #1 147 mandatory position without fighting anyone in the division.
mma or whatever is under one rule, so the best fights are made.