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Title: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 06, 2015, 03:05:56 PM
Reports just came out that he tested positive for cocaine a week before the fight last weekend and like a phony entered rehab...Isn't this the guy who said he would work for law enforcement if he wasn't doing MMA? Anyone thinking coke isn't a PED in the ring is out of their mind...


http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/ufc-champion-jon-jones-tests-positive-for-cocaine-reportedly-enters-rehab
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Cocaine
Post by: Sokolsky on January 06, 2015, 03:13:12 PM
NSAC doesn't appear to be willing to take further steps at this moment, nor is the UFC.
Probably going to blow over just like the carcrash whilst under influence (aside from the 'haters' remembering) and not impact his career since he made the right PR statements by admitting guilt and going into rehab (even if that just comes down to him doing coke behind closed doors).  ::)

Guy is still young, sells fights, and is unlikely to be thrown under the bus whereas characters such as Matt Riddle were more easily 'cut'.


Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave.


Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 06, 2015, 03:15:38 PM
NSAC doesn't appear to be willing to take further steps at this moment, nor is the UFC.
Probably going to blow over just like the carcrash whilst under influence (aside from the 'haters' remembering) and not impact his career since he made the right PR statements by admitting guilt and going into rehab (even if that just comes down to him doing coke behind closed doors).  ::)

Guy is still young, sells fights, and is unlikely to be thrown under the bus whereas characters such as Matt Riddle were more easily 'cut'.


Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave.




Ya Dana hide the positive test until after his fight. Sat on it for over a week. Yet guys have lost their jobs for testing positive for weed. lol
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Wiggs on January 06, 2015, 03:19:52 PM
And still


Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Nails on January 06, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
he is on the Oscar DeLa Hoya Training diet
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Wiggs on January 06, 2015, 03:25:32 PM
Helluva drug
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: akers1021 on January 06, 2015, 03:30:48 PM
No big deal, just wait until Jameis Winston gets in the NFL and is making millions a year  ;D
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: SGT BARNES on January 06, 2015, 03:34:10 PM
who gives a fuck if he does cocaine. whats it got to do with the fight.

hes a mma fighter for christs sake not an airline pilot.

people need to fuck off and stop being such judgemental girls
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Boost on January 06, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
Jon "8 Ball" Jones

Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Nick Danger on January 06, 2015, 03:38:40 PM
Reports just came out that he tested positive for cocaine a week before the fight last weekend and like a phony entered rehab...Isn't this the guy who said he would work for law enforcement if he wasn't doing MMA? Anyone thinking coke isn't a PED in the ring is out of their mind...


http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/ufc-champion-jon-jones-tests-positive-for-cocaine-reportedly-enters-rehab

Cocaine a PED?? Just because it makes you feel invincible it doesn't help your performance. Take a look at MLB in the mid 80s...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Boost on January 06, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
Line for Line, the greatest fighter of all time :)
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Nails on January 06, 2015, 03:40:16 PM
No big deal, just wait until Jameis Winston gets in the NFL and is making millions a year  ;D



no way he is beating out johnny manziel
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Schnauzer on January 06, 2015, 03:40:55 PM
Nick Diaz got a one year suspension for smoking weed.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Boost on January 06, 2015, 03:43:59 PM
 :D
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Wiggs on January 06, 2015, 03:46:42 PM
And still
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Marty Champions on January 06, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
who gives a fuck if he does cocaine. whats it got to do with the fight.

hes a mma fighter for christs sake not an airline pilot.

people need to fuck off and stop being such judgemental girls
its how u can lose 40 pounds in 1 week
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Boost on January 06, 2015, 03:53:10 PM
His new Signature Shirt...





Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Marty Champions on January 06, 2015, 03:53:22 PM
Cocaine great if u hate dieting

I had to b lit on coke for a week to be 210 shredded like a black zero fat without effort
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Marty Champions on January 06, 2015, 03:54:30 PM
His new Signature Shirt...






lol
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Sokolsky on January 06, 2015, 04:18:27 PM
Quote
UFC President Dana White also addressed the situation:

“I am proud of Jon Jones for making the decision to enter a drug treatment facility. I’m confident that he’ll emerge from this program like the champion he truly is."

So it's confirmed then, he got busted after snorting coke off dana's dick.  ::)
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: pellius on January 06, 2015, 04:21:28 PM
Cocaine a PED?? Just because it makes you feel invincible it doesn't help your performance. Take a look at MLB in the mid 80s...

Doesn't it dramatically boost energy levels and mask pain like all those that end in "caine" novocaine, procaine, benzocaine, endocaine, lidocaine...?
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 06, 2015, 04:29:25 PM
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 06, 2015, 05:00:49 PM
Jon Jones: Kilo for Kilo the best fighter on the planet!

 
Ben Askren


lmao
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Costanza on January 06, 2015, 05:04:24 PM
Wish he'd hook me up.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: SaintAnger on January 06, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
Isn't Jon's wife pale white?
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 06, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
who gives a fuck if he does cocaine. whats it got to do with the fight.

hes a mma fighter for christs sake not an airline pilot.

people need to fuck off and stop being such judgemental girls

I think that two things are coming into play here.

First, cocaine can certainly be used for combat sports. Cocaine is both a stimulant and a pain killer. It will have you wired with a massive influx of energy (energy which can come handy when fighting a 25 minute fight, as to not lose stamina when it counts) and will also work as a pain killer (imagine not feeling those strikes from Daniel Cormier, due to being loaded with cocaine). Not to mention, that outside of the actual fight, it can be used as a great way to lose weight, as it works as an appetite suppressant.

Second, the reason why this shit is even more fishy than ever is because Jon Jones talks a lot of shit. He always talks about the Lord blessing him and all that jazz, when he is the same guy that is full of himself (vanity), reckless towards others as shown by his former DUI arrest and clearly doesn't care for his own temple (snorting cocaine).

Not to mention that Nick Diaz got suspended for using marijuana for an entire year, yet Jones uses cocaine and gets away with a little rehab. That's the difference between being a big pay per view draw and a random idiot.

Heck, how the hell will Reebok keep their sponsorship deal with Jon Jones going after their new "role model" is revealed to be a cocaine addict? I don't think that's the message they want to send, but who knows.

This opens the UFC to a lot of backlash. Fighters will point the finger and say that Dana is a bigger piece of shit than he already was known to be (he plays favorites, only cares about PPV's, sucks cock etc).

"1"
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: titusisback on January 06, 2015, 06:45:56 PM
Heck, how the hell will Reebok keep their sponsorship deal with Jon Jones going after their new "role model" is revealed to be a cocaine addict? I don't think that's the message they want to send, but who knows.

Reebok actually already addressed this by saying Jon has their full support. "Great"
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 06, 2015, 06:46:54 PM
Reebok actually already addressed this by saying Jon has their full support. "Great"

They probably looked at the numbers and realized the guy will bring them enough exposure/revenue, so what the heck...

"1"
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2015, 06:52:07 PM
I think that two things are coming into play here.

First, cocaine can certainly be used for combat sports. Cocaine is both a stimulant and a pain killer. It will have you wired with a massive influx of energy (energy which can come handy when fighting a 25 minute fight, as to not lose stamina when it counts) and will also work as a pain killer (imagine not feeling those strikes from Daniel Cormier, due to being loaded with cocaine). Not to mention, that outside of the actual fight, it can be used as a great way to lose weight, as it works as an appetite suppressant.

Second, the reason why this shit is even more fishy than ever is because Jon Jones talks a lot of shit. He always talks about the Lord blessing him and all that jazz, when he is the same guy that is full of himself (vanity), reckless towards others as shown by his former DUI arrest and clearly doesn't care for his own temple (snorting cocaine).

Not to mention that Nick Diaz got suspended for using marijuana for an entire year, yet Jones uses cocaine and gets away with a little rehab. That's the difference between being a big pay per view draw and a random idiot.

Heck, how the hell will Reebok keep their sponsorship deal with Jon Jones going after their new "role model" is revealed to be a cocaine addict? I don't think that's the message they want to send, but who knows.

This opens the UFC to a lot of backlash. Fighters will point the finger and say that Dana is a bigger piece of shit than he already was known to be (he plays favorites, only cares about PPV's, sucks cock etc).

"1"


Another way that cocaine helps a MMA fighter..... It dramatically boosts the users confidence. That alone would help a fighter. But cocaine can increase power too. Probably helps with reaction time too.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Nick Danger on January 06, 2015, 07:04:19 PM
The only possible benefits of cocaine (aside from weight cutting) would only occur while the athlete was stoned.
According to the report, Jones failed the test a week prior to the fight.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2015, 07:09:04 PM
The only possible benefits of cocaine (aside from weight cutting) would only occur while the athlete was stoned.
According to the report, Jones failed the test a week prior to the fight.

Correct.... He was not on cocaine during the fight
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: 240 is Back on January 06, 2015, 07:12:35 PM
No big deal, just wait until Jameis Winston gets in the NFL and is making millions a year  ;D

he's making plenty of $ at FSU already
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: MikMaq on January 06, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
On the one hand it's really bad if fighters are fucking up there health fighting, making fights more violent, more concussion damage, etc.


However at the same time, who the fuck cares these guys get their minds destroyed from head trauma why the fuck should we care what they do on their time off.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: 240 is Back on January 06, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
do they take the win from him?
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: tommywishbone on January 06, 2015, 07:26:25 PM
Gram-for-gram Jones is still one of the best.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 06, 2015, 07:45:21 PM
Doesn't it dramatically boost energy levels and mask pain like all those that end in "caine" novocaine, procaine, benzocaine, endocaine, lidocaine...?

Exactly...Baseball made speed illegal(greenies) because baseball is a marathon. Speed helped all the players in the 30's all the way thru the 90's make it through a 152 game season. Coke will help a fighter get through training. For sure a PED...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 06, 2015, 07:51:26 PM
Correct.... He was not on cocaine during the fight

You don't know that for sure.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 06, 2015, 07:52:54 PM
The only possible benefits of cocaine (aside from weight cutting) would only occur while the athlete was stoned.
According to the report, Jones failed the test a week prior to the fight.

Coke would help him get through training that he normally wouldn't be able to get through. He'll cut the coke out a couple of days before his fight and supplement it with another kind of speed come fight night. My guess is that he has a legit script for ADD(adderall/ritalin etc) 30 minutes before he goes into the ring, he'll wiff up his nose 100mg to 200mgs of ritalin but most likely adderall to give him close to the same type of feeling the coke gives him...And because he can legally use ADD meds, no one says a word...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: che on January 06, 2015, 07:55:15 PM
Using cocaine  as recreational drug = quick way to ruin your athletic career.

Snorting a line right before you fight could be beneficial, it all depends on how you react to the drugs .
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: che on January 06, 2015, 07:58:18 PM
Exactly...Baseball made speed illegal(greenies) because baseball is a marathon. Speed helped all the players in the 30's all the way thru the 90's make it through a 152 game season. Coke will help a fighter get through training. For sure a PED...
Baseball is such a physically demanding sport.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: basil on January 06, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
You guys are talking about blow, a party favorite, as if it's EPO or something.  lol.  There's plenty of other more effective banned substances that Jones could (prob would) use if illegal "performance enhancement" was his goal.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Alucard on January 06, 2015, 11:20:39 PM
Doesn't it dramatically boost energy levels and mask pain like all those that end in "caine" novocaine, procaine, benzocaine, endocaine, lidocaine...?
I wouldn't say dramatically, at least compared to other legit sport PED, but ask everyone who tried legit coke (i did), all amped up, you feel great, can mask pain, and can probably mask other PED in your system... It's funny because these high level pros are always caught for some sort of "recreational" drugs (like Agassi for meth, for example), for majority of fans not a big deal, and never for the gallons of PED they are taking...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 07, 2015, 12:06:44 AM
Coke would help him get through training that he normally wouldn't be able to get through. He'll cut the coke out a couple of days before his fight and supplement it with another kind of speed come fight night. My guess is that he has a legit script for ADD(adderall/ritalin etc) 30 minutes before he goes into the ring, he'll wiff up his nose 100mg to 200mgs of ritalin but most likely adderall to give him close to the same type of feeling the coke gives him...And because he can legally use ADD meds, no one says a word...

I suspect such a dose of Ritalin would be detrimental, maybe even a low dose. Weak in the knees feeling, heart pounding like crazy etc. Even in a sport like powerlifting or strongman you have to time heavy stimulants right if you don't want to actually get weaker.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Radical Plato on January 07, 2015, 12:34:06 AM
Joe Rogan on Jon Jones' Failed Drug Test.

Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Royalty on January 07, 2015, 12:35:32 AM
You don't know that for sure.

That's true. I do believe that fighters take a drug test AFTER fights in order to check for potential drug usage immediately prior to fights.

So we shall see.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2015, 12:40:09 AM
Correct.... He was not on cocaine during the fight

How do you know that? And it's irrelevant. Was Diaz on weed during the fight?

Jones should be disqualified and the win taken off his record and the lost taken off Cormier's record. Should be a do over though I want Jones to fight the Swede. Fighting Gust neutralizes Jones big advantage which is his height. He had an insane 12 inch reach advantage over Cormier. That Coke helps him make weight when he should be in the heavyweight class.

And OMR is right on the money. I swear that guy is such a clear thinker in everything. He should be on the the athletic commission.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Skylge on January 07, 2015, 03:32:19 AM
Risking his entire career for some lines of coke, what a retard
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: pedro01 on January 07, 2015, 03:57:44 AM
Reports just came out that he tested positive for cocaine a week before the fight last weekend and like a phony entered rehab...Isn't this the guy who said he would work for law enforcement if he wasn't doing MMA? Anyone thinking coke isn't a PED in the ring is out of their mind...


http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/ufc-champion-jon-jones-tests-positive-for-cocaine-reportedly-enters-rehab

cocaine reduces endurance

ain't no PED for any sport
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: pedro01 on January 07, 2015, 03:59:26 AM
Doesn't it dramatically boost energy levels and mask pain like all those that end in "caine" novocaine, procaine, benzocaine, endocaine, lidocaine...?


It is a local anesthetic, it only stops pain where applied
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: bigmc on January 07, 2015, 03:59:55 AM
cocaine reduces endurance

ain't no PED for any sport

gives you cramps too

would increase confidence and aggression though
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: pedro01 on January 07, 2015, 04:02:53 AM

Another way that cocaine helps a MMA fighter..... It dramatically boosts the users confidence. That alone would help a fighter. But cocaine can increase power too. Probably helps with reaction time too.


Nope.

Coke will make you more confident but at the same time will make you less coordinated.

Pain reduction is local not general, so punches will still hurt.

Endurance is reduced on cocaine.

It's a terrible drug for sports.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Boost on January 07, 2015, 04:15:38 AM
God Bless twitter...




Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: devilsmile on January 07, 2015, 12:18:13 PM
And still




he was so exhausted after the fight that he sounded white when joe rogan gave him the mike, lol
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Wiggs on January 07, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
he was so exhausted after the fight that he sounded white when joe rogan gave him the mike, lol

That's how he sounds normally.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: devilsmile on January 07, 2015, 12:39:03 PM
That's how he sounds normally.

I have followed jones since his first ufc fight and he has much deeper voice, no homo
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: jamesjenkinsfitness on January 07, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
Coke would help him get through training that he normally wouldn't be able to get through. He'll cut the coke out a couple of days before his fight and supplement it with another kind of speed come fight night. My guess is that he has a legit script for ADD(adderall/ritalin etc) 30 minutes before he goes into the ring, he'll wiff up his nose 100mg to 200mgs of ritalin but most likely adderall to give him close to the same type of feeling the coke gives him...And because he can legally use ADD meds, no one says a word...

Exactly, i posted on here before about strength athletes using adderall. people said it was extreme and u was crazy. not realizing a lot of athletes have been using it
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: tommywishbone on January 07, 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.

Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: WalterWhite on January 07, 2015, 03:04:38 PM
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.



He tested positive around the time he came back from Brazil. I can imagine he enjoyed his time there.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
Exactly, i posted on here before about strength athletes using adderall. people said it was extreme and u was crazy. not realizing a lot of athletes have been using it

Majority of football, baseball, hockey players use adderall. Every once in awhile a football player will get nailed for using it and then never again because he got a doctor to say he has ADHD. There's a list going around somewhere on the net of over 200 pro baseball players who claim to have ADHD. lol
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:20:53 PM
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.



If you are going to say Cocaine doesn't improve performance than you must also say that any stimulant doesn't improve performance. To say that stimulants don't improve performance is just not true...

People will lots of dough use cocaine like other people use coffee. Using cocaine doesn't mean your up for nights on end looking out your windows worried that someone's watching you. There are athletes who use it and get all their meals in and sleep regular schedules...Stimulants are performance enhancers. Cocaine is no different. Low dose cocaine for sure can have its benefits...But of course, it comes at a major risk. And in most cases will bite you in the ass in the long run...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.



Ya Jones is partying and ripping it up a week out from his fight. He's staying up with 2 to 3 days at a time twirling glow sticks at a rave :-\
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 07, 2015, 03:25:05 PM
Remove the belt from the Cokehead.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:32:56 PM
Cut and Paste from the Mayo Clinic


Stimulants

What are they?
Some athletes use stimulants to stimulate the central nervous system and increase heart rate and blood pressure.

Stimulants can:

Improve endurance
Reduce fatigue
Suppress appetite
Increase alertness and aggressiveness
Common stimulants include caffeine and amphetamines. Cold remedies often contain the stimulants ephedrine or pseudoephedrine hydrochloride. Energy drinks, which are popular among many athletes, often contain high doses of caffeine and other stimulants. The street drugs cocaine and methamphetamine also are stimulants.

Risks
Although stimulants can boost physical performance and promote aggressiveness on the field, they have side effects that MAY impair athletic performance.

Nervousness and irritability, which make it hard to concentrate on the game.
Insomnia, which can prevent an athlete from getting needed sleep.
Dehydration.
Heatstroke.
Addiction or tolerance, meaning that athletes need greater amounts to achieve the desired effect, so they'll take doses that are much higher than the intended medical dose.
Other side effects include:

Heart palpitations
Heart rhythm abnormalities
Weight loss
Tremors
Mild high blood pressure (hypertension)
Hallucinations
Convulsions
Stroke
Heart attack and other circulatory problems
The bottom line

Do performance-enhancing drugs boost performance? Some athletes may appear to achieve physical gains from such drugs, but at what cost? The long-term effects of performance-enhancing drugs haven't been rigorously studied. And short-term benefits are tempered by many risks. Not to mention that doping is prohibited by most sports organizations. No matter how you look at it, using performance-enhancing drugs is risky business.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
The military gives fighter pilots stimulants for long missions. Although many of them use stimulants every day regardless of how long their flights are because it makes them much more alert...

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/how-fighter-pilots-stay-sharp-20131205
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Rhomboids on January 07, 2015, 03:44:51 PM
That's a good point man.  Further, in this fight, Jones said that it was his easiest weight cut ever.  At the weigh-ins he was even wearing pants and STILL came in under the limit.  He looked mad tired after the third but bounced back miraculously in the 4th and 5th.  He got hit quite a few times with uppercuts and seemed unfazed. 

It only makes you wonder how long he's been using. 

I think that two things are coming into play here.

First, cocaine can certainly be used for combat sports. Cocaine is both a stimulant and a pain killer. It will have you wired with a massive influx of energy (energy which can come handy when fighting a 25 minute fight, as to not lose stamina when it counts) and will also work as a pain killer (imagine not feeling those strikes from Daniel Cormier, due to being loaded with cocaine). Not to mention, that outside of the actual fight, it can be used as a great way to lose weight, as it works as an appetite suppressant.

Second, the reason why this shit is even more fishy than ever is because Jon Jones talks a lot of shit. He always talks about the Lord blessing him and all that jazz, when he is the same guy that is full of himself (vanity), reckless towards others as shown by his former DUI arrest and clearly doesn't care for his own temple (snorting cocaine).

Not to mention that Nick Diaz got suspended for using marijuana for an entire year, yet Jones uses cocaine and gets away with a little rehab. That's the difference between being a big pay per view draw and a random idiot.

Heck, how the hell will Reebok keep their sponsorship deal with Jon Jones going after their new "role model" is revealed to be a cocaine addict? I don't think that's the message they want to send, but who knows.

This opens the UFC to a lot of backlash. Fighters will point the finger and say that Dana is a bigger piece of shit than he already was known to be (he plays favorites, only cares about PPV's, sucks cock etc).

"1"
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
Sigmund Freud liked Coke a little too much.lol


http://www.historyhouse.com/in_history/cocaine/
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:52:30 PM
From Law.com---Lawyers prefer coke


Lawyers Prefer Coke
Lawyers, it seems, prefer coke. And we refer not to soft drinks, but to drugs. As between cocaine and marijuana, occupations show a clear divide in their drug of choice. For lawyers, the choice is cocaine.

Over the past week, Richard Florida has written a series of posts for The Atlantic in which he and two colleagues slice and dice data from the National Survey of Drug Use and Health to create a picture of the relationship between drug use and various political, economic and psychological characteristics of states. In his latest entry, This Is Your Occupation on Drugs, he looks at the relationship between drug use and specific types of professional and creative jobs.

Occupations sort relatively neatly along the lines of marijuana versus cocaine use. The short of it is that marijuana use is more positively associated with science (.35), education (.38), artistic professions (.35), and engineering and architecture (.29), while cocaine use is positively associated with lawyers (.41) and, to a lesser extent, with business and finance occupations (.27), computer jobs (.25), and management fields (.26).

So what are we to make of this? Florida puts the question to one of his colleagues in analyzing this data, Peter J. Rentfrow, a lecturer in social and developmental psychology at the University of Cambridge.

I think it's interesting that cocaine is high for finance, law, and quant professions. Although we can't infer whether it's people in those jobs actually doing drugs, those professions are generally regarded as intense and lavish. So it's interesting that an expensive stimulant like cocaine is used more often in places where comparatively large numbers of people work in intense and high-paying jobs ...

What I think is particularly interesting about the results is that most professions possess elements of income, education, and personality. Even in those cases where lawyers and architects make similar amounts of money, they're very different lines of work and appeal to different types of people.

What Rentfrow seems to be saying is that intense professionals are more likely to prefer cocaine while mellow professionals are more likely to prefer marijuana. If so, one can only wonder what might happen if one day the intense professions and the mellow professions got their drugs mixed up.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:54:51 PM
Adderall is NFL's drug of choice and NFL classifies Adderall(speed) as a PED. Wonder why? hmm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000242017/article/report-adderall-remains-drug-of-choice-for-many-nfl-players
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: 20inch calves on January 07, 2015, 03:58:54 PM
One can argue if coke helps athletic performance or not...guess what it doesn't matter because its banned..so in the ufc its just as wrong as anabolics..or is it. Dana sure does down steroids what's he going to say about his champ
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 03:59:41 PM
1 out of every 10 baseball players tested positive for adderall...116 players get an adderall exemption...But it's becoming harder to get because of the know fact that stimulants are a PED and an unfair advantage as a whole...

http://deadspin.com/5964744/1-in-10-mlb-players-took-adderall-this-season
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: tommywishbone on January 07, 2015, 04:02:57 PM
If you are going to say Cocaine doesn't improve performance than you must also say that any stimulant doesn't improve performance. To say that stimulants don't improve performance is just not true...

People will lots of dough use cocaine like other people use coffee. Using cocaine doesn't mean your up for nights on end looking out your windows worried that someone's watching you. There are athletes who use it and get all their meals in and sleep regular schedules...Stimulants are performance enhancers. Cocaine is no different. Low dose cocaine for sure can have its benefits...But of course, it comes at a major risk. And in most cases will bite you in the ass in the long run...

OK OK. We essentially agree on this.  

Cocaine has such a huge downside used as a PED, it's just insane to make that your stimulant of choice.

And I doubt Jones attends rave parties with 19 year white kids, but I'm sure a good party is a little better with an 8-ball dumped on the table.  
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
One can argue if coke helps athletic performance or not...guess what it doesn't matter because its banned..so in the ufc its just as wrong as anabolics..or is it. Dana sure does down steroids what's he going to say about his champ

Ya looks like Dana went right into protect mode...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Necrosis on January 07, 2015, 04:21:56 PM
cocaine reduces endurance

ain't no PED for any sport

Thank you it had to be said. He would gas in 60 seconds max, heart pounding.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: pedro01 on January 07, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
If you are going to say Cocaine doesn't improve performance than you must also say that any stimulant doesn't improve performance. To say that stimulants don't improve performance is just not true...

People will lots of dough use cocaine like other people use coffee. Using cocaine doesn't mean your up for nights on end looking out your windows worried that someone's watching you. There are athletes who use it and get all their meals in and sleep regular schedules...Stimulants are performance enhancers. Cocaine is no different. Low dose cocaine for sure can have its benefits...But of course, it comes at a major risk. And in most cases will bite you in the ass in the long run...

Cocaine isn't caffeine.

Alchohol is also a stimulant. Doesn't make you run faster after 10 pints does it?

The problem with coke is the impact on the blood vessels. Your heart beats faster because it has to work harder...

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/cocaine-use-and-its-effects?page=2
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Heart. Cocaine is bad for the heart. Cocaine increases heart rate and blood pressure while constricting the arteries supplying blood to the heart. The result can be a heart attack, even in young people without heart disease. Cocaine can also trigger a deadly abnormal heart rhythm called arrhythmia.

Brain. Cocaine can constrict blood vessels in the brain, causing strokes. This can happen even in young people without other risk factors for strokes. Cocaine causes seizures and can lead to bizarre or violent behavior.

You may feel like Superman on coke but you will run more slowly and with less co-ordination.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Lustral on January 07, 2015, 05:49:40 PM
its how u can lose 40 pounds in 1 week

40lbs in a week? Bollox. I had pneumonia, didnt know (ignored it) til i nearly died and lost 28lbs in a week when fat and unable to eat. 40lbs? Fuck off with your bullshit.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Schnauzer on January 07, 2015, 06:59:37 PM
Jones getting ready to score some coke the hard way

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Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: hardgainerj on January 07, 2015, 08:38:53 PM
conte saying its a cover for ped
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Schnauzer on January 07, 2015, 08:59:37 PM
Jon Jones' latest training camp

Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: hardgainerj on January 07, 2015, 09:04:49 PM
Testosterone use out of competition is against WADA rules. IMO @ufc Jon Jones's 3 T/E ratio tests are suspicious. CIR follow up tests=TRUTH
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: ESFitness on January 07, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
I know plenty of powerlifters who blast coke during training and during meets (and surprisingly not recreationally)

personally, I dunno how a guy would fight on coke... I'd think they'd be too 'scatter-brained' to stick to a game plan and end up looking like clay guida.

also, personally, I know plenty of mma guys who do a LOT of coke (friends and training partners of a top 3 ufc lightweight).... I just dont' see how it could help, even in the short term.

that being said, whether I think it'd help or not, I think that piece of shit Jones should be stripped of his title and suspended for a year just like they did to Diaz and have an interim title fight between cormier and gus. Jones has already had substance abuse issues in the pastand got a pass.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Radical Plato on January 07, 2015, 09:20:03 PM


Alchohol is also a stimulant. Doesn't make you run faster after 10 pints does it?


Alcohol is a depressant moron.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 07, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
All three out of competition drug tests administered to Jon Jones in December show abnormal levels of various hormones.


Beside the coca-time, what has received less discussion is that all three tests show abnormal levels of testosterone and/or epitestosterone.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7510649/jon-jones-out-of-competition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

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Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: nighttrain on January 08, 2015, 02:33:11 AM
excellent post OMR. I feel there is going to be a big backlash against Dana with the fighters on this since he has striped titles before but refuses to do so against Jones because he draws PPV buys.

I think that two things are coming into play here.

First, cocaine can certainly be used for combat sports. Cocaine is both a stimulant and a pain killer. It will have you wired with a massive influx of energy (energy which can come handy when fighting a 25 minute fight, as to not lose stamina when it counts) and will also work as a pain killer (imagine not feeling those strikes from Daniel Cormier, due to being loaded with cocaine). Not to mention, that outside of the actual fight, it can be used as a great way to lose weight, as it works as an appetite suppressant.

Second, the reason why this shit is even more fishy than ever is because Jon Jones talks a lot of shit. He always talks about the Lord blessing him and all that jazz, when he is the same guy that is full of himself (vanity), reckless towards others as shown by his former DUI arrest and clearly doesn't care for his own temple (snorting cocaine).

Not to mention that Nick Diaz got suspended for using marijuana for an entire year, yet Jones uses cocaine and gets away with a little rehab. That's the difference between being a big pay per view draw and a random idiot.

Heck, how the hell will Reebok keep their sponsorship deal with Jon Jones going after their new "role model" is revealed to be a cocaine addict? I don't think that's the message they want to send, but who knows.

This opens the UFC to a lot of backlash. Fighters will point the finger and say that Dana is a bigger piece of shit than he already was known to be (he plays favorites, only cares about PPV's, sucks cock etc).

"1"
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Parker on January 08, 2015, 04:06:18 AM
conte saying its a cover for ped
Hmmm...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: phil mcgroin on January 08, 2015, 06:09:59 AM
Breaking News: Black man uses cocaine
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: gettingbetter on January 08, 2015, 06:13:19 AM
Who gives a fuck???

Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Howard on January 08, 2015, 09:05:50 AM
Reports just came out that he tested positive for cocaine a week before the fight last weekend and like a phony entered rehab...Isn't this the guy who said he would work for law enforcement if he wasn't doing MMA? Anyone thinking coke isn't a PED in the ring is out of their mind...


http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/ufc-champion-jon-jones-tests-positive-for-cocaine-reportedly-enters-rehab

In the words of Rick James ; " Cocaine is a hell of a drug "
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: MAXX on January 08, 2015, 10:18:53 AM
Victor Conte suspects JJ for steroids



they talk about it in the beginning. Brian Stann is guest (mirin jaw(no homo))
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Alucard on January 08, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
conte saying its a cover for ped
Exactly, just like other "recreational" drugs and meds... At the end of the day, JBJ is a professional athlete, surely on coctails of stimulants, GH, testo, steroids, EPO/blood doping, and more, lol at cocaine...
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: BigNJ on January 08, 2015, 11:20:14 AM
Does anybody NOT test positive for cocaine?
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 08, 2015, 12:13:03 PM
Miley Cyrus is no stranger to things like these
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Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Tyr on January 08, 2015, 03:40:55 PM
Halfway through Rogans podacast featuring brian stann. Jones gets discussed and Stann seems to be in somewhat awe having trianed with Jones in the past.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 08, 2015, 05:41:14 PM
COCATRON
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Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: AbrahamG on January 08, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Who the fuck cares about cocaine.  He toyed with DC and beat him at his own game.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: chaos on January 08, 2015, 08:20:21 PM
Who the fuck cares about cocaine.  He toyed with DC and beat him at his own game.
Fanboy
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 12, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
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Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Wiggs on January 12, 2015, 08:15:33 PM
He's in love wit da' coco.
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Schnauzer on January 13, 2015, 09:47:36 AM
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UFC champ Jon Jones left rehab after one night ... this according to the fighter's mother.

Camille Jones spoke with WBNG in Binghamton, NY -- and said Jon will attend the Colts vs. Patriots game this weekend to watch his two brothers (who are on separate teams) battle it out on the field. 

Camille did not explain why Jones made the decision to leave the rehab center so soon -- especially after testing positive for cocaine after his UFC 182 fight against Daniel Cormier.

His mother told WBNG she's glad he got caught in the first place.

"This stopped him in his tracks, this let him know that he may need to change some friends ... because everyone is not for you for the best," Camille said.

"Me and my husband considered [the positive test] a blessing from God that our child was able to be helped and know that he need to stop and know that he needed the assistance to stop before it came to something worse."
According to Camille, the unannounced drug test came the day after Jon was hanging with friends and "did something he shouldn't have done."

Camille says she spoke with Jon right after the positive test -- "My first question was, do you have a problem, a serious problem? And then he told me what happened. Jon is usually very honest with me, so he told me what happened. I was like, good for you ... good. You needed to be caught, it was just timing."


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/13/jon-jones-mom-caille-rehab-after-1-night-he-needed-to-get-caught/#ixzz3OizwwxaF
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Royalty on January 13, 2015, 12:03:25 PM
Leaving rehab after 1 day means that Jones isn't serious about staying clean
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on January 13, 2015, 12:28:43 PM
Leaving rehab after 1 day means that Jones isn't serious about staying clean

Crackheads gonna crackhead
Title: Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 13, 2015, 01:01:08 PM
Jon Jones says he always wanted to be a cop...Those days are over.lol