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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2015, 04:02:53 AM »

Another way that cocaine helps a MMA fighter..... It dramatically boosts the users confidence. That alone would help a fighter. But cocaine can increase power too. Probably helps with reaction time too.


Nope.

Coke will make you more confident but at the same time will make you less coordinated.

Pain reduction is local not general, so punches will still hurt.

Endurance is reduced on cocaine.

It's a terrible drug for sports.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2015, 04:15:38 AM »
God Bless twitter...





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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2015, 12:18:13 PM »
And still




he was so exhausted after the fight that he sounded white when joe rogan gave him the mike, lol

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2015, 12:33:30 PM »
he was so exhausted after the fight that he sounded white when joe rogan gave him the mike, lol

That's how he sounds normally.
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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2015, 12:39:03 PM »
That's how he sounds normally.

I have followed jones since his first ufc fight and he has much deeper voice, no homo

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2015, 01:27:19 PM »
Coke would help him get through training that he normally wouldn't be able to get through. He'll cut the coke out a couple of days before his fight and supplement it with another kind of speed come fight night. My guess is that he has a legit script for ADD(adderall/ritalin etc) 30 minutes before he goes into the ring, he'll wiff up his nose 100mg to 200mgs of ritalin but most likely adderall to give him close to the same type of feeling the coke gives him...And because he can legally use ADD meds, no one says a word...

Exactly, i posted on here before about strength athletes using adderall. people said it was extreme and u was crazy. not realizing a lot of athletes have been using it
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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2015, 03:02:01 PM »
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2015, 03:04:38 PM »
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.



He tested positive around the time he came back from Brazil. I can imagine he enjoyed his time there.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2015, 03:10:11 PM »
Exactly, i posted on here before about strength athletes using adderall. people said it was extreme and u was crazy. not realizing a lot of athletes have been using it

Majority of football, baseball, hockey players use adderall. Every once in awhile a football player will get nailed for using it and then never again because he got a doctor to say he has ADHD. There's a list going around somewhere on the net of over 200 pro baseball players who claim to have ADHD. lol

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2015, 03:20:53 PM »
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.



If you are going to say Cocaine doesn't improve performance than you must also say that any stimulant doesn't improve performance. To say that stimulants don't improve performance is just not true...

People will lots of dough use cocaine like other people use coffee. Using cocaine doesn't mean your up for nights on end looking out your windows worried that someone's watching you. There are athletes who use it and get all their meals in and sleep regular schedules...Stimulants are performance enhancers. Cocaine is no different. Low dose cocaine for sure can have its benefits...But of course, it comes at a major risk. And in most cases will bite you in the ass in the long run...

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2015, 03:23:35 PM »
Jones did not use coke to aid in his training or weight cut. JFC  ::)  He obviously likes to party and clearly just used too close to an "off season" test.

As mentioned by several people with an IQ over 22, in this thread, cocaine does not improve performance. Not today, not tomorrow, never.



Ya Jones is partying and ripping it up a week out from his fight. He's staying up with 2 to 3 days at a time twirling glow sticks at a rave :-\

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2015, 03:25:05 PM »
Remove the belt from the Cokehead.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2015, 03:32:56 PM »
Cut and Paste from the Mayo Clinic


Stimulants

What are they?
Some athletes use stimulants to stimulate the central nervous system and increase heart rate and blood pressure.

Stimulants can:

Improve endurance
Reduce fatigue
Suppress appetite
Increase alertness and aggressiveness
Common stimulants include caffeine and amphetamines. Cold remedies often contain the stimulants ephedrine or pseudoephedrine hydrochloride. Energy drinks, which are popular among many athletes, often contain high doses of caffeine and other stimulants. The street drugs cocaine and methamphetamine also are stimulants.

Risks
Although stimulants can boost physical performance and promote aggressiveness on the field, they have side effects that MAY impair athletic performance.

Nervousness and irritability, which make it hard to concentrate on the game.
Insomnia, which can prevent an athlete from getting needed sleep.
Dehydration.
Heatstroke.
Addiction or tolerance, meaning that athletes need greater amounts to achieve the desired effect, so they'll take doses that are much higher than the intended medical dose.
Other side effects include:

Heart palpitations
Heart rhythm abnormalities
Weight loss
Tremors
Mild high blood pressure (hypertension)
Hallucinations
Convulsions
Stroke
Heart attack and other circulatory problems
The bottom line

Do performance-enhancing drugs boost performance? Some athletes may appear to achieve physical gains from such drugs, but at what cost? The long-term effects of performance-enhancing drugs haven't been rigorously studied. And short-term benefits are tempered by many risks. Not to mention that doping is prohibited by most sports organizations. No matter how you look at it, using performance-enhancing drugs is risky business.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2015, 03:40:27 PM »
The military gives fighter pilots stimulants for long missions. Although many of them use stimulants every day regardless of how long their flights are because it makes them much more alert...

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/how-fighter-pilots-stay-sharp-20131205

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2015, 03:44:51 PM »
That's a good point man.  Further, in this fight, Jones said that it was his easiest weight cut ever.  At the weigh-ins he was even wearing pants and STILL came in under the limit.  He looked mad tired after the third but bounced back miraculously in the 4th and 5th.  He got hit quite a few times with uppercuts and seemed unfazed. 

It only makes you wonder how long he's been using. 

I think that two things are coming into play here.

First, cocaine can certainly be used for combat sports. Cocaine is both a stimulant and a pain killer. It will have you wired with a massive influx of energy (energy which can come handy when fighting a 25 minute fight, as to not lose stamina when it counts) and will also work as a pain killer (imagine not feeling those strikes from Daniel Cormier, due to being loaded with cocaine). Not to mention, that outside of the actual fight, it can be used as a great way to lose weight, as it works as an appetite suppressant.

Second, the reason why this shit is even more fishy than ever is because Jon Jones talks a lot of shit. He always talks about the Lord blessing him and all that jazz, when he is the same guy that is full of himself (vanity), reckless towards others as shown by his former DUI arrest and clearly doesn't care for his own temple (snorting cocaine).

Not to mention that Nick Diaz got suspended for using marijuana for an entire year, yet Jones uses cocaine and gets away with a little rehab. That's the difference between being a big pay per view draw and a random idiot.

Heck, how the hell will Reebok keep their sponsorship deal with Jon Jones going after their new "role model" is revealed to be a cocaine addict? I don't think that's the message they want to send, but who knows.

This opens the UFC to a lot of backlash. Fighters will point the finger and say that Dana is a bigger piece of shit than he already was known to be (he plays favorites, only cares about PPV's, sucks cock etc).

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2015, 03:45:06 PM »
Sigmund Freud liked Coke a little too much.lol


http://www.historyhouse.com/in_history/cocaine/

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2015, 03:52:30 PM »
From Law.com---Lawyers prefer coke


Lawyers Prefer Coke
Lawyers, it seems, prefer coke. And we refer not to soft drinks, but to drugs. As between cocaine and marijuana, occupations show a clear divide in their drug of choice. For lawyers, the choice is cocaine.

Over the past week, Richard Florida has written a series of posts for The Atlantic in which he and two colleagues slice and dice data from the National Survey of Drug Use and Health to create a picture of the relationship between drug use and various political, economic and psychological characteristics of states. In his latest entry, This Is Your Occupation on Drugs, he looks at the relationship between drug use and specific types of professional and creative jobs.

Occupations sort relatively neatly along the lines of marijuana versus cocaine use. The short of it is that marijuana use is more positively associated with science (.35), education (.38), artistic professions (.35), and engineering and architecture (.29), while cocaine use is positively associated with lawyers (.41) and, to a lesser extent, with business and finance occupations (.27), computer jobs (.25), and management fields (.26).

So what are we to make of this? Florida puts the question to one of his colleagues in analyzing this data, Peter J. Rentfrow, a lecturer in social and developmental psychology at the University of Cambridge.

I think it's interesting that cocaine is high for finance, law, and quant professions. Although we can't infer whether it's people in those jobs actually doing drugs, those professions are generally regarded as intense and lavish. So it's interesting that an expensive stimulant like cocaine is used more often in places where comparatively large numbers of people work in intense and high-paying jobs ...

What I think is particularly interesting about the results is that most professions possess elements of income, education, and personality. Even in those cases where lawyers and architects make similar amounts of money, they're very different lines of work and appeal to different types of people.

What Rentfrow seems to be saying is that intense professionals are more likely to prefer cocaine while mellow professionals are more likely to prefer marijuana. If so, one can only wonder what might happen if one day the intense professions and the mellow professions got their drugs mixed up.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2015, 03:54:51 PM »
Adderall is NFL's drug of choice and NFL classifies Adderall(speed) as a PED. Wonder why? hmm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000242017/article/report-adderall-remains-drug-of-choice-for-many-nfl-players

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2015, 03:58:54 PM »
One can argue if coke helps athletic performance or not...guess what it doesn't matter because its banned..so in the ufc its just as wrong as anabolics..or is it. Dana sure does down steroids what's he going to say about his champ
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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2015, 03:59:41 PM »
1 out of every 10 baseball players tested positive for adderall...116 players get an adderall exemption...But it's becoming harder to get because of the know fact that stimulants are a PED and an unfair advantage as a whole...

http://deadspin.com/5964744/1-in-10-mlb-players-took-adderall-this-season

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2015, 04:02:57 PM »
If you are going to say Cocaine doesn't improve performance than you must also say that any stimulant doesn't improve performance. To say that stimulants don't improve performance is just not true...

People will lots of dough use cocaine like other people use coffee. Using cocaine doesn't mean your up for nights on end looking out your windows worried that someone's watching you. There are athletes who use it and get all their meals in and sleep regular schedules...Stimulants are performance enhancers. Cocaine is no different. Low dose cocaine for sure can have its benefits...But of course, it comes at a major risk. And in most cases will bite you in the ass in the long run...

OK OK. We essentially agree on this.  

Cocaine has such a huge downside used as a PED, it's just insane to make that your stimulant of choice.

And I doubt Jones attends rave parties with 19 year white kids, but I'm sure a good party is a little better with an 8-ball dumped on the table.  
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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2015, 04:03:53 PM »
One can argue if coke helps athletic performance or not...guess what it doesn't matter because its banned..so in the ufc its just as wrong as anabolics..or is it. Dana sure does down steroids what's he going to say about his champ

Ya looks like Dana went right into protect mode...

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2015, 04:21:56 PM »
cocaine reduces endurance

ain't no PED for any sport

Thank you it had to be said. He would gas in 60 seconds max, heart pounding.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2015, 05:43:57 PM »
If you are going to say Cocaine doesn't improve performance than you must also say that any stimulant doesn't improve performance. To say that stimulants don't improve performance is just not true...

People will lots of dough use cocaine like other people use coffee. Using cocaine doesn't mean your up for nights on end looking out your windows worried that someone's watching you. There are athletes who use it and get all their meals in and sleep regular schedules...Stimulants are performance enhancers. Cocaine is no different. Low dose cocaine for sure can have its benefits...But of course, it comes at a major risk. And in most cases will bite you in the ass in the long run...

Cocaine isn't caffeine.

Alchohol is also a stimulant. Doesn't make you run faster after 10 pints does it?

The problem with coke is the impact on the blood vessels. Your heart beats faster because it has to work harder...

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/cocaine-use-and-its-effects?page=2
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Heart. Cocaine is bad for the heart. Cocaine increases heart rate and blood pressure while constricting the arteries supplying blood to the heart. The result can be a heart attack, even in young people without heart disease. Cocaine can also trigger a deadly abnormal heart rhythm called arrhythmia.

Brain. Cocaine can constrict blood vessels in the brain, causing strokes. This can happen even in young people without other risk factors for strokes. Cocaine causes seizures and can lead to bizarre or violent behavior.

You may feel like Superman on coke but you will run more slowly and with less co-ordination.

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Re: UFC fighter Jon Jones---Tested positive for Cocaine
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2015, 05:49:40 PM »
its how u can lose 40 pounds in 1 week

40lbs in a week? Bollox. I had pneumonia, didnt know (ignored it) til i nearly died and lost 28lbs in a week when fat and unable to eat. 40lbs? Fuck off with your bullshit.