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Saw it today. Overall it was a good movie. I liked the book better
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Couldve been better,worth watching though
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Checked it out last night.
Line out to the parking lot to get in.
Overall a really good movie.
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Checked it out last night.
Line out to the parking lot to get in.
Overall a really good movie.
It was like that today.ppl standing in the theatre
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I hate going to the movies. Sit in these crappy uncomfortable chairs, pay a lot of money for popcorn, candy, soda, and a ticket. Then there is a good chance people are going to be talking during the movie.
One time I took a date to the movie and had the following conversation before we drove to the movie:
Me: Can we stop off and get some candy from the convenience store?
Her: Why?
Me: It's just easier that way to get the candy beforehand.
Her: Um, okay.
Me: Well, you know, because you have to wait in line for the candy and soda at the theatre and I don't want to miss the coming attractions.
Her: Oh, okay.
Me: The price has nothing to do with it. I mean, movie candy and soda is cheaper at the convenience store, but that is not why I want to buy it from there.
Her: It's okay if you want to get it from the convenience store because its cheaper. Movie candy and soda is expensive.
Me: No, thats reallly not the reason. I am not cheap or anything. I mean, the movie is like 12 bucks a ticket, plus we are going out to dinner afterward.
Her: We don't have to go out to dinner if its too expensive. We can just do the movie.
Me: Okay, but can we still get the soda and candy from the convenience store?
Her: Yes, whatever works best for you.
Me: And we can do dinner after. Its not a problem.
Her: We will just go with it and see what happens after the movie.
Conclusion: I think she blocked my number because she never responded to my texts the day after. :-\ :-\
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It better be good Ive gotta sit through the movie twice tomorrow >:(
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Conclusion: I think she blocked my number because she never responded to my texts the day after. :-\ :-\
So did you go to McDonalds after the movie or not?
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So did you go to McDonalds after the movie or not?
No. She just said it would be better if she went straight home. I tried to insist on us going out to eat. She did not want to. I wound up going home and having a protein shake.
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No. She just said it would be better if she went straight home. I tried to insist on us going out to eat. She did not want to. I wound up going home and having a protein shake.
Alpha move, well done. Send the bitch home and take care of your anabolic window. Sounds like a materialistic whore anyways.
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I hate going to the movies. Sit in these crappy uncomfortable chairs, pay a lot of money for popcorn, candy, soda, and a ticket. Then there is a good chance people are going to be talking during the movie.
One time I took a date to the movie and had the following conversation before we drove to the movie:
Me: Can we stop off and get some candy from the convenience store?
Her: Why?
Me: It's just easier that way to get the candy beforehand.
Her: Um, okay.
Me: Well, you know, because you have to wait in line for the candy and soda at the theatre and I don't want to miss the coming attractions.
Her: Oh, okay.
Me: The price has nothing to do with it. I mean, movie candy and soda is cheaper at the convenience store, but that is not why I want to buy it from there.
Her: It's okay if you want to get it from the convenience store because its cheaper. Movie candy and soda is expensive.
Me: No, thats reallly not the reason. I am not cheap or anything. I mean, the movie is like 12 bucks a ticket, plus we are going out to dinner afterward.
Her: We don't have to go out to dinner if its too expensive. We can just do the movie.
Me: Okay, but can we still get the soda and candy from the convenience store?
Her: Yes, whatever works best for you.
Me: And we can do dinner after. Its not a problem.
Her: We will just go with it and see what happens after the movie.
Conclusion: I think she blocked my number because she never responded to my texts the day after. :-\ :-\
LOL at internet dating.
Just dont talk to much, the less you speak the more powerful you are.
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Alpha move, well done. Send the bitch home and take care of your anabolic window. Sounds like a materialistic whore anyways.
I didn't see the big deal of getting milk duds, dots, and skittles from the convenience store. She should have been happy that I was paying.
This is why whenever I go on first dates, I NEVER EVER do dinner or a movie or anything expensive. I do coffee for the first date. If there is chemistry and they like me enough, the 2nd date will be a little more expensive.
And yes, went home and made a protein shake with milk, banana, ice and yogurt. Then came on getbig and posted.
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LOL at internet dating.
Just dont talk to much, the less you speak the more powerful you are.
I didn't meet this one off the internet. It was through a friend of a friend. :D :D Needless to say, since then, they have not tried to hook me up again. :-\ :-\
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I didn't see the big deal of getting milk duds, dots, and skittles from the convenience store. She should have been happy that I was paying.
This is why whenever I go on first dates, I NEVER EVER do dinner or a movie or anything expensive. I do coffee for the first date. If there is chemistry and they like me enough, the 2nd date will be a little more expensive.
And yes, went home and made a protein shake with milk, banana, ice and yogurt. Then came on getbig and posted.
Smart man
Typical first dates for getbiggers is a ride on their personal yacht or Lear jet. Things turn out good the second date is upgraded to cruise or Boeing
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Smart man
Typical first dates for getbiggers is a ride on their personal yacht or Lear jet. Things turn out good the second date is upgraded to cruise or Boeing
This is how I make sure the first date is a cheap one:
Me: Where do you want to go for the first date?
Her: Um, it doesn't matter.
Me: I think coffee is the best idea. I mean, if you don't like me or something, I don't want you to feel obligated to stay on a long date. Can you imagine if there was no chemistry and you had to sit through a dinner with me for an hour or two. It would be an uncomfortable situation for you and I do not want to do that you.
Her: Good point. I didn't think of that.
Me: Okay, so we will meet at Starbucks at 7:00pm.
Her: Okay, see you there.
Me: Okay, bye.
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This is how I make sure the first date is a cheap one:
Me: Where do you want to go for the first date?
Her: Um, it doesn't matter.
Me: I think coffee is the best idea. I mean, if you don't like me or something, I don't want you to feel obligated to stay on a long date. Can you imagine if there was no chemistry and you had to sit through a dinner with me for an hour or two. It would be an uncomfortable situation for you and I do not want to do that you.
Her: Good point. I didn't think of that.
Me: Okay, so we will meet at Starbucks at 7:00pm.
Her: Okay, see you there.
Me: Okay, bye.
. You sit here and talk shit about me for having no college education and not having 100k in the bank at 22 yet you get played by used whores on dating sites, the same broads who wouldn't get two texts from me. Talk about pathetic.... give me some of that money and Ill teach you how to talk to go outside and actually talk to women.
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. You sit here and talk shit about me for having no college education and not having 100k in the bank at 22 yet you get played by used whores on dating sites, the same broads who wouldn't get two texts from me. Talk about pathetic.... give me some of that money and Ill teach you how to talk to go outside and actually talk to women.
Wait, so are you saying that you actually take them out for dinner on the first date? :D :D
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This is how I make sure the first date is a cheap one:
Me: Where do you want to go for the first date?
Her: Um, it doesn't matter.
Me: I think coffee is the best idea. I mean, if you don't like me or something, I don't want you to feel obligated to stay on a long date. Can you imagine if there was no chemistry and you had to sit through a dinner with me for an hour or two. It would be an uncomfortable situation for you and I do not want to do that you.
Her: Good point. I didn't think of that.
Me: Okay, so we will meet at Starbucks at 7:00pm.
Her: Okay, see you there.
Me: Okay, bye.
why do u feel the need to explain urself to women before they even know u? big mistake dude, big mistake ... just suggest where u want to go. period
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The reason guys like me get played by women is because unlike guys with lots of $ we can't be picky about the hot women we chose to date only the ones we fuck and that's if we look good and/or have superior game. So when a hot chick comes along that likes us we will put up with her regardles of how fucked up she is,the guy with money can get the fuck out when he gets tired of her shit..
.....money doesn't make you alpha per say as the good looking tatted up guy who just got out of jail will always pull more tail than the successful clean cut lawyer in the bar/club scene...guys with money like yourself should be dating women you meet t through social circles, not messaging used single whores on dating sites who could give two shits about what you do for a living.
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The reason guys like me get played by women is because unlike guys with lots of $ we can't be picky about the hot women we chose to date only the ones we fuck and that's if we look good and/or have superior game. So when a hot chick comes along that likes us we will put up with her regardles of how fucked up she is,the guy with money can get the fuck out when he gets tired of her shit..
.....money doesn't make you alpha per say as the good looking tatted up guy who just got out of jail will always pull more tail than the successful clean cut lawyer in the bar/club scene...guys with money like yourself should be dating women you meet t through social circles, not messaging used single whores on dating sites who could give two shits about what you do for a living.
Thanks for the solid advice, broskie. Type me up a list of dating tips on a Word document and message it to me.
Also I never said I had a lot money. Nor am I denying that. What I did stress to you is an education or learning a trade. Of course money helps but I never endorsed that I was filthy rich either. However,woman do like guys that make a good living and have some acquired education or skill.
But I will take your advice into consideration :-D
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;D sf1900 I love your posting of conversations you have with dumb women.
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I liked it. Who doesn't like watching towel-heads get their comeuppance.
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money - looks - muscle
theese are the only 3 things women care about
looks and muscle pull them in
personality really isnt important if you have the other two. they will deal with your shit personality if you have money and look good.
this is the case for 80% of girls - im talking 10/10s here
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I hate going to the movies. Sit in these crappy uncomfortable chairs, pay a lot of money for popcorn, candy, soda, and a ticket. Then there is a good chance people are going to be talking during the movie.
One time I took a date to the movie and had the following conversation before we drove to the movie:
Me: Can we stop off and get some candy from the convenience store?
Her: Why?
Me: It's just easier that way to get the candy beforehand.
Her: Um, okay.
Me: Well, you know, because you have to wait in line for the candy and soda at the theatre and I don't want to miss the coming attractions.
Her: Oh, okay.
Me: The price has nothing to do with it. I mean, movie candy and soda is cheaper at the convenience store, but that is not why I want to buy it from there.
Her: It's okay if you want to get it from the convenience store because its cheaper. Movie candy and soda is expensive.
Me: No, thats reallly not the reason. I am not cheap or anything. I mean, the movie is like 12 bucks a ticket, plus we are going out to dinner afterward.
Her: We don't have to go out to dinner if its too expensive. We can just do the movie.
Me: Okay, but can we still get the soda and candy from the convenience store?
Her: Yes, whatever works best for you.
Me: And we can do dinner after. Its not a problem.
Her: We will just go with it and see what happens after the movie.
Conclusion: I think she blocked my number because she never responded to my texts the day after. :-\ :-\
Lol! Did you ask her to hide the snacks somewhere?
Oh and one does not simply see American Sn
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Classic propaganda made in Hollyweird, but the movie is good, bit boring at times...
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it s kind of funny the sniper who killed som many people...got himself killed by a fellow soldier who had PTSD.
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;D sf1900 I love your posting of conversations you have with dumb women.
:D :D
oh, some of them are quite interesting. :o ;D :D
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Lol! Did you ask her to hide the snacks somewhere?
Oh and one does not simply see American Sn
Nope, I thought that was asking a little too much. Instead, I hid the snack in my back pocket and made sure my shirt covered the candy. Very good tactic.
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Sooo people still pay to watch blow em up shoot em up movies???
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Sooo people still pay to watch blow em up shoot em up movies???
http://torrentz.eu/
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Sooo people still pay to watch blow em up shoot em up movies???
Another case of art imitating life, my multimetering friend.
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I hate going to the movies. Sit in these crappy uncomfortable chairs, pay a lot of money for popcorn, candy, soda, and a ticket. Then there is a good chance people are going to be talking during the movie.
One time I took a date to the movie and had the following conversation before we drove to the movie:
Me: Can we stop off and get some candy from the convenience store?
Her: Why?
Me: It's just easier that way to get the candy beforehand.
Her: Um, okay.
Me: Well, you know, because you have to wait in line for the candy and soda at the theatre and I don't want to miss the coming attractions.
Her: Oh, okay.
Me: The price has nothing to do with it. I mean, movie candy and soda is cheaper at the convenience store, but that is not why I want to buy it from there.
Her: It's okay if you want to get it from the convenience store because its cheaper. Movie candy and soda is expensive.
Me: No, thats reallly not the reason. I am not cheap or anything. I mean, the movie is like 12 bucks a ticket, plus we are going out to dinner afterward.
Her: We don't have to go out to dinner if its too expensive. We can just do the movie.
Me: Okay, but can we still get the soda and candy from the convenience store?
Her: Yes, whatever works best for you.
Me: And we can do dinner after. Its not a problem.
Her: We will just go with it and see what happens after the movie.
Conclusion: I think she blocked my number because she never responded to my texts the day after. :-\ :-\
Whats far more annoying is the kind of adult that can't sit down for two hours, without chopping on junk food.
I fucking hate people that eat pop corn while watching a movie.The greasy salty finger stains everything, and all you hear is crunching the whole fucking time.
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it s kind of funny the sniper who killed som many people...got himself killed by a fellow soldier who had PTSD.
There is nothing funny about that. Very ironic yes but no fun.
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Whats far more annoying is the kind of adult that can't sit down for two hours, without chopping on junk food.
I fucking hate people that eat pop corn while watching a movie.The greasy salty finger stains everything, and all you hear is crunching the whole fucking time.
It is a weird experience to de-tune from the film and get aware of the room all of a sudden.
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I loved the movie, haven't heard about the book but the movie was very watchable.
Anyway, why does getbig always make it sound like hot women are so much harder to approach to?
in my experience when I have just gone to talk to a hot woman randomly, she at least gave her correct working cellphone number. Not always, but fuck this "circling around, stalking your pray" crap you guys talk about.
All this puffing your chest crap tells me you guys fear women to the death.
Women get hypnotised when a man is completely cool and confident, however not arrogant and supremely self aware top player.
The mistake you guys always do is to think that hot women want more than psychologically and physically fullfilling all out fucking, because that's what they all want at the end. You just have to think and feel you can give some of that to her. When she is convinsed she doesn't care who you are or what you do.
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I hate going to the movies. Sit in these crappy uncomfortable chairs, pay a lot of money for popcorn, candy, soda, and a ticket. Then there is a good chance people are going to be talking during the movie.
One time I took a date to the movie and had the following conversation before we drove to the movie:
Me: Can we stop off and get some candy from the convenience store?
Her: Why?
Me: It's just easier that way to get the candy beforehand.
Her: Um, okay.
Me: Well, you know, because you have to wait in line for the candy and soda at the theatre and I don't want to miss the coming attractions.
Her: Oh, okay.
Me: The price has nothing to do with it. I mean, movie candy and soda is cheaper at the convenience store, but that is not why I want to buy it from there.
Her: It's okay if you want to get it from the convenience store because its cheaper. Movie candy and soda is expensive.
Me: No, thats reallly not the reason. I am not cheap or anything. I mean, the movie is like 12 bucks a ticket, plus we are going out to dinner afterward.
Her: We don't have to go out to dinner if its too expensive. We can just do the movie.
Me: Okay, but can we still get the soda and candy from the convenience store?
Her: Yes, whatever works best for you.
Me: And we can do dinner after. Its not a problem.
Her: We will just go with it and see what happens after the movie.
Conclusion: I think she blocked my number because she never responded to my texts the day after. :-\ :-\
WTF are you doing eating candy? You should have packed some chicken breasts and broccoli, you disgust me. Hand in your thong on the way out.
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WTF are you doing eating candy? You should have packed some chicken breasts and broccoli, you disgust me. Hand in your thong on the way out.
My hand's in my thong already, stud.
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So is this worth going out of the way to see? Or wait for the DVD? I love movies, but time is very limited right now...
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I'll wait for it to get to cable.
...calling you wife while you're on patrol or just about to take a shot ::)
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Meanwhile in cookoo land...the Hollywood liberals are starting to protest this movie because Clint Eastwood should not be glorifying a killer. I kid you not... American hero is a killer.
Liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
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in my experience when I have just gone to talk to a hot woman randomly, she at least gave her correct working cellphone number. Not always, but fuck this "circling around, stalking your pray" crap you guys talk about.
Yes, but with you, you've left out the part where after she says "give me a call" you run home and crawl up into the fetal position under your desk because you can't figure out what she really meant by that.
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WTF are you doing eating candy? You should have packed some chicken breasts and broccoli, you disgust me. Hand in your thong on the way out.
The date was during the winter time. I could have stored some chicken and broccoli in my car and it would have stayed good. Damn! Didn't think of that until now.
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Whats far more annoying is the kind of adult that can't sit down for two hours, without chopping on junk food.
I fucking hate people that eat pop corn while watching a movie.The greasy salty finger stains everything, and all you hear is crunching the whole fucking time.
Cool story, bro. Thanks.
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I didn't see the big deal of getting milk duds, dots, and skittles from the convenience store. She should have been happy that I was paying.
This is why whenever I go on first dates, I NEVER EVER do dinner or a movie or anything expensive. I do coffee for the first date. If there is chemistry and they like me enough, the 2nd date will be a little more expensive.
And yes, went home and made a protein shake with milk, banana, ice and yogurt. Then came on getbig and posted.
This is where you fail. Raisinets and Snowcaps are the best movie candies by far.
When I was a hardcore BBer, I never ate candy at the movies. I used to bring a tuna fish sandwich on rye, a chicken breast and an apple/banana to the movies.
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Meanwhile in cookoo land...the Hollywood liberals are starting to protest this movie because Clint Eastwood should not be glorifying a killer. I kid you not... American hero is a killer.
Liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
I wouln't classify him as a killer, though some of the things he states in his autobiography are a little strange. He said killing was "fun" and something that he loved to do, and stated that he wished he could have killed more people.
My grandapa fought in WW 2 in the Battle of the Bulge, which is considered "the single biggest and bloodiest battle American soldiers have ever fought -- in which nearly 80,000 were killed, maimed or captured in an infernal test of courage and endurance."
When I or anyone would ask my grandpa about the war and what it was like, etc, he would say, "I had a job to do and I did it. There is nothing more to say." He didn't go on and boast about how awesome killing was and it was fun blowing people up. (My grandpa was a registered republican and always voted republican).
Obviously, Chris Kyle can say whatever he wants, but whenever I have talked to WW 2 vets, they never say anything like he said. They basically say what my grandpa said. Maybe if Chris Kyle would have reached my grandpas age, he would have thought differently. There is nothing fun about war, in my opinion. People join to protect their country. They join for a cause or a purpose and to do a job. I wouldn't think most would classify it as "fun."
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This is where you fail. Raisinets and Snowcaps are the best movie candies by far.
When I was a hardcore BBer, I never ate candy at the movies. I used to bring a tuna fish sandwich on rye, a chicken breast and an apple/banana to the movies.
Raisinets are a good choice, because they are dry fruits. The raisins will provide an insulin spike and drive all that protein into the muscle.
Hardcore about the tuna fish. Did you ever offer your date some?
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Raisinets are a good choice, because they are dry fruits. The raisins will provide an insulin spike and drive all that protein into the muscle.
Hardcore about the tuna fish. Did you ever offer your date some?
Actually yes, but she never wanted any. I used to rinse it well before mixing it with the mayo, but it still stunk like hell.
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Actually yes, but she never wanted any. I used to rinse it well before mixing it with the mayo, but it still stunk like hell.
Too bad. She missed out on her anabolic window and probably lost some muscle tone during those 2 hours. Shame. :-\ :-\
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Don't listen to these knuckle heads. The movie is an instant classic. Very well done. If you're a liberal, don't know a thing about honor and country don't see it. It was done way better than Lone Survivor but like any movie it can't compare to the book.
He's a reason you should see it. The liberal rags are putting it down. The NY Post and the Washington Post both don't like it but it's because of liberal politics instead of a review of the movie. Seth Rogen compares U.S. Navy SEAL Chris Kyle to a Nazi. Michael Moore calls him a coward. If you're a alpha patriotic man there can be no better reason to see this movie then by listening to beta liberals putting down the movie. Clint Eastwood has put an exclamation point on his long career with this move.
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Don't listen to these knuckle heads. The movie is an instant classic. Very well done. If you're a liberal, don't know a thing about honor and country don't see it. It was done way better than Lone Survivor but like any movie it can't compare to the book.
He's a reason you should see it. The liberal rags are putting it down. The NY Post and the Washington Post both don't like it but it's because of liberal politics instead of a review of the movie. Seth Rogen compares U.S. Navy SEAL Chris Kyle to a Nazi. Michael Moore calls him a coward. If you're a alpha patriotic man there can be no better reason to see this movie then by listening to beta liberals putting down the movie. Clint Eastwood has put an exclamation point on his long career with this move.
that's america today. It's all about conditioning the minds of the masses with liberal white guilt self pity shit.
but that goes to 90% of europe as well. I'm lucky to see so clearly.
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I wouln't classify him as a killer, though some of the things he states in his autobiography are a little strange. He said killing was "fun" and something that he loved to do, and stated that he wished he could have killed more people.
My grandapa fought in WW 2 in the Battle of the Bulge, which is considered "the single biggest and bloodiest battle American soldiers have ever fought -- in which nearly 80,000 were killed, maimed or captured in an infernal test of courage and endurance."
When I or anyone would ask my grandpa about the war and what it was like, etc, he would say, "I had a job to do and I did it. There is nothing more to say." He didn't go on and boast about how awesome killing was and it was fun blowing people up. (My grandpa was a registered republican and always voted republican).
Obviously, Chris Kyle can say whatever he wants, but whenever I have talked to WW 2 vets, they never say anything like he said. They basically say what my grandpa said. Maybe if Chris Kyle would have reached my grandpas age, he would have thought differently. There is nothing fun about war, in my opinion. People join to protect their country. They join for a cause or a purpose and to do a job. I wouldn't think most would classify it as "fun."
From what i read and discovered about him, he probably had problems, also exposed as a liar... But i wouldn't call him a killer, he was a soldier, a very patriotic guy who followed orders, duped into thinking of going to war to defend his country against some evil monster...
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Meanwhile in cookoo land...the Hollywood liberals are starting to protest this movie because Clint Eastwood should not be glorifying a killer. I kid you not... American hero is a killer.
Liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
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I don't get getbig sometimes, when a terrorist attack happens like in France, get big collectively says there Nasty people need to all be taking out and its Europes fault for being so pussy.
Then when Americans go to war, the soldiers are just mindless idiots following orders to kill a "made up@ bad guy.
Well which one is it. Either Americans are doing the right thing buy trying to hunt down terrorist thought the middle east or American is wrong in creating this false enemy and blowing up half the Middle East.
Btw 90% of the people here are committing on stuff that is not even in there lane.. Have you badasses been to a war zone? He'll even the middles east. Have any of you served? I'll even take I did 4 years state side.
And the Europeans comment on this. Just stop Europe beside the uk hasn't had any real military power per say in 80 years. Don't try to act like America is a shit hole when half of Europe is over ran by Muslims and Africans that you basically gave them your country on a silver plater
No one is going to be 100% right, but I do believe that's these radical Muslims are pure evil nasty people that need there compete ideology whipped off the map
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I don't get getbig sometimes, when a terrorist attack happens like in France, get big collectively says there Nasty people need to all be taking out and its Europes fault for being so pussy.
Then when Americans go to war, the soldiers are just mindless idiots following orders to kill a "made up@ bad guy.
Well which one is it. Either Americans are doing the right thing buy trying to hunt down terrorist thought the middle east or American is wrong in creating this false enemy and blowing up half the Middle East.
Btw 90% of the people here are committing on stuff that is not even in there lane.. Have you badasses been to a war zone? He'll even the middles east. Have any of you served? I'll even take I did 4 years state side.
And the Europeans comment on this. Just stop Europe beside the uk hasn't had any real military power per say in 80 years. Don't try to act like America is a shit hole when half of Europe is over ran by Muslims and Africans that you basically have them your country on a silver plater
Calm down, broskie. We are still going to pay for your "bum" leg via our taxes. It's all good. You can relax.
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Calm down, broskie. We are still going to pay for your "bum" leg via our taxes. It's all good. You can relax.
Don't forget my school to!! Well since I worked for the government I guess you paid for everything. Thank you guys
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On a real note the movie left me feeling like I wish I could have done more when I was in. We all have our rolls but it left me silent for a few hours
It was like I left a funeral. Had me messed up. At the va here in San antonio they have the best burn unit in America. Plus one of the best rehabs. You see a lot of fucked up guys
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On a real note the movie left me feeling like I wish I could have done more when I was in. We all have our rolls but it left me silent for a few hours
It was like I left a funeral. Had me messed up. At the va here in San antonio they have the best burn unit in America. Plus one of the best rehabs. You see a lot of fucked up guys
I wish Patton was still around.
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I wish Patton was still around.
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I wish all of that generation was around.
I just found this the other day a young 20 year old e4 navy mike on his first deployment sitting 10 miles of Iraq get my m240 qual. That 240 is a bad guy by the way. It's no 50cal but it will hurt you
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i would rather watch Major Payne again with Damon Wayans
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The guy traveled 10,000 miles to kill a bunch of date farmers and taxi drivers. I feel much safer. Thanks dead guy.
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The guy traveled 10,000 miles to kill a bunch of date farmers and taxi drivers. I feel much safer. Thanks dead guy.
You realize after we streamrolled the Iraq army in like 3 months those "date" farmers are trained terrorist that fled in from all over the middle eat. don't say our presents created them, they where there way before we got there.
9/11?
Embassy bomb in Africa in 98
Works trade 93?
They have been around for along time
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From what i read and discovered about him, he probably had problems, also exposed as a liar... But i wouldn't call him a killer, he was a soldier, a very patriotic guy who followed orders, duped into thinking of going to war to defend his country against some evil monster...
What did he lie about?
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Whats far more annoying is the kind of adult that can't sit down for two hours, without chopping on junk food.
I fucking hate people that eat pop corn while watching a movie.The greasy salty finger stains everything, and all you hear is crunching the whole fucking time.
I am with you on the popcorn thing, u bring a girl to cinema and you've salty lips and mouth and so does she (before oral) and kissing isn't hot. Then again I haven't been to the cinema with a prospective gf in about 8years so my findings are based on that of a younger man
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What did he lie about?
The web of potential lies begins in 2012. Three years after Kyle was honorably discharged, with two Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars, he taped an interview for SOFREP, a website covering special operations forces. According to a profile of the former SEAL in the June 2013 issue of The New Yorker, Kyle left the taping, met friends for a late-night drinking session, and then talked about how, in 2005, he and a sniper buddy took to the roof of the Superdome, in New Orleans, and picked off about 30 armed looters during the Hurricane Katrina melee. He said he was trying to establish law and order amid the chaos. When asked about the story, a spokesman for U.S. Special Operations Command (or SOCOM) said, "To the best of anyone's knowledge at SOCOM, there were no West Coast SEALs deployed to Katrina." Kyle’s recollection, he claimed, "defies the imagination."
Around the time he first told the Katrina tale, Kyle made an appearance on The Opie & Anthony Show to promote his book. During the show, he bragged about a night at a San Diego bar in 2006 when he punched former SEAL Jesse Ventura in the face for supposedly undercutting the Iraq War. Kyle later repeated his claim on The O’Reilly Factor. In response, Ventura sued for defamation – and refused to drop his suit even after Kyle's death. Last July, Ventura won $1.8 million in damages, but lost respect among his brethren for suing a widow.
The attempted carjacking of Kyle was the subject of an April 2013 story in D Magazine. In January 2010, just months after retiring from the SEALs, Kyle reportedly pulled his Ford F350 truck into an unidentified gas station south of Dallas, off Hwy 67. Two men approached him with guns, asking for his money and keys. Kyle said he needed to reach into his truck for the latter, but instead deftly grabbed his Colt pistol from under his coat and shot the two men to death. When police officers arrived, Kyle gave them a special phone number to call. On the other end was a government official who informed the officers about Kyle's outstanding military service. The officers let Kyle go. In response to the story, some law enforcement in the area claimed they’d heard about the incident; others hadn't a clue. The account was mentioned in Service: A Navy SEAL at War, the 2012 book by Marcus Luttrell, whose story was turned into the movie Lone Survivor, yet it didn’t make Kyle’s memoir. And no surveillance tape was ever made public.
"But why would he lie?" the D Magazine profile questioned. "He was already one of the most decorated veterans of the Iraq war. Tales of his heroism on the battlefield were already lore in every branch of the armed forces." The undisputed truth? Kyle's mystery will endure
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What did he lie about?
http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle (http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle)
for one he said he Laid out Jesse Ventura at a bar , that was proven to be a lie, everyone on the bar that day said kyle never threw a punch but Kyle claimed he TKO Jesse for talking shit about the military and President (inside a militar bar)
Never Happened, He LIED and made the whole thing up
He also said he was Carjacked by 2 men in Texas, as they were going to drive off with his Truck , he pulled out a gun shot them both dead, handed the cops a GET OF JAIL free card from the pentagon and cops let him go that very moment
There were no carjackers, no dead bodies, no cops, none of it. He made the whole thing up.
Never Happened, He LIED and made the whole thing up
He also said the Gov. sent him to new orleans to shot Looters from the roof of the Superdome during hurricane Katrina, he claimed to have killed 30 looters on his own.
Never Happened, He LIED and made the whole thing up
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Sounds like this guy might also be a Colonel in the Green Berets, bench press 600 and break the spines of attacking German Shepards.
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Sounds like a true getbiger. Would have fit right in
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???
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What did he lie about?
Nails and SF1900 already responded... Mostly the Jesse Ventura case, killing two carjackers and Hurricane Katrina sniping story (if this was true, makes him a psychopath killer, a murderer, not exactly a hero, clearly something wrong if his mind elaborated this sick story)...
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Is that the movie with the fake baby in it ?
Wooosshhhhhh
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I wish Patton was still around.
(https://writingasaprofession.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/patton-wearing-service-cap.jpg)
Gen. George Smith Patton was a true american/war hero, assassinated for asking a meeting with President Truman after he discovered proofs of the connection between traitor Gen. Dwight David Eisenhower, Nazis, Vatican and Soviet Union...
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The guy traveled 10,000 miles to kill a bunch of date farmers and taxi drivers. I feel much safer. Thanks dead guy.
Awesome
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Clint Eastwood has done it again.....Eastwood has proved many times why he's a very good actor as well as a good director. someone will grab an Oscar soon......but, here's what Michael Moore tweeted about this movie....he quickly said his statement was taking out of context......
“My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”
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it s kind of funny the sniper who killed som many people...got himself killed by a fellow soldier who had PTSD.
Funny? Funny how?
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Funny? Funny how?
It's not in the slightest
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Clint Eastwood has done it again.....Eastwood has proved many times why he's a very good actor as well as a good director. someone will grab an Oscar soon......but, here's what Michael Moore tweeted about this movie....he quickly said his statement was taking out of context......
“My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”
Oh the fat dumpy liberal who has made ton of his able to have free speech right? Fuck him and trying to stay relevant. He just wants people to talk about him. I hope he chocks on a chicken wing
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Oh the fat dumpy liberal who has made ton of his able to have free speech right? Fuck him and trying to stay relevant. He just wants people to talk about him. I hope he chocks on a chicken wing
Remember, that is the free speech that you fought for. The ability to pretty much say anything we want, even if it offends the other person.
I mean, you even sacrificed one of your legs for his free speech. Now you have a bum knee.
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Just 2 hours of American RA RA RA bullshit. Successful Sniper? So in other words he killed the most people in a foreign country that they invaded. Nice fucking bullshit resume.
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Remember, that is the free speech that you fought for. The ability to pretty much say anything we want, even if it offends the other person.
I mean, you even sacrificed one of your legs for his free speech. Now you have a bum knee.
Yep but because a free speech dosnt mean I have to agree with it because it "edge" he disagrees with my lifestyle and career choice and I disagree with his. Just how he can voclize his option so can I
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Just 2 hours of American RA RA RA bullshit. Successful Sniper? So in other words he killed the most people in a foreign country that they invaded. Nice fucking bullshit resume.
You sound like a liberal European... I'm I close?
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Here are the facts, did Iraq have chemical weapons? Yes there is no question. Did he move then in the 18 months heading up to the war. Yep
Do I think Invading Iraq was a just cause. Personal no I dont
Did it speed up and add the recruitment of terrorist. Absolutely
But don't act like the us in the cause of terrorism
These guys want to kill ever no Muslim in the world. So why you knock us for being murders that fine you can look around the world and see the pure evil these people have used to brain washed muslims with
They are a cancer and if you want to sit back and let then bring there ideology to your front drop step that fine.
If rather go cut the tumor out before it speads
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Just 2 hours of American RA RA RA bullshit. Successful Sniper? So in other words he killed the most people in a foreign country that they invaded. Nice fucking bullshit resume.
I'm sure somewhere, there are Nazi's that think a certain German soldier who was stationed in occupied France and killed a hundred French resistance fighters was a hero. Of course to the rest of the world, that soldier was just a murdering Nazi.
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I'm sure somewhere, there are Nazi's that think a certain German soldier who was stationed in occupied France and killed a hundred French resistance fighters was a hero. Of course to the rest of the world, that soldier was just a murdering Nazi.
True it is all in contest, to a die hard Muslim they are all heros because they are doing gods "will" to the rest of the world they are nasty violent people that want to set human right back 2000 years and murder anybody who isn't like them.
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Here are the facts, did Iraq have chemical weapons? Yes there is no question. Did he move then in the 18 months heading up to the war. Yep
Do I think Invading Iraq was a just cause. Personal no I dont
Did it speed up and add the recruitment of terrorist. Absolutely
But don't act like the us in the cause of terrorism
These guys want to kill ever no Muslim in the world. So why you knock us for being murders that fine you can look around the world and see the pure evil these people have used to brain washed muslims with
They are a cancer and if you want to sit back and let then bring there ideology to your front drop step that fine.
If rather go cut the tumor out before it speads
You are too brainwashed by your military. They make you think every muslim wants to kill every every non muslim and decided to wait hundreds of years to attack now and that the USA fucking in their business had nothing to do with it.
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You are too brainwashed by your military. They make you think every muslim wants to kill every every non muslim and decided to wait hundreds of years to attack now and that the USA fucking in their business had nothing to do with it.
all muslims want the planet to be muslim. All of them.
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You are too brainwashed by your military. They make you think every muslim wants to kill every every non muslim and decided to wait hundreds of years to attack now and that the USA fucking in their business had nothing to do with it.
If your going to come up with a counter point can you please make it one that's even worth debating? The Koran itself has violence written in it about killing the non believers.
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You are too brainwashed by your military. They make you think every muslim wants to kill every every non muslim and decided to wait hundreds of years to attack now and that the USA fucking in their business had nothing to do with it.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Yep peaceful religion
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Clint Eastwood has done it again.....Eastwood has proved many times why he's a very good actor as well as a good director. someone will grab an Oscar soon......but, here's what Michael Moore tweeted about this movie....he quickly said his statement was taking out of context......
“My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”
Some kids were taught racism is good. your point?
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bayonet soldier are a dead breed
now that is a movie i would love to see, a real war hero fighting it out with knife attached to his empty rifle
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Bayonet.jpg)
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all muslims want the planet to be muslim. All of them.
All christians want the planet to be Christian.. all of them...
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bayonet soldier are a dead breed
now that is a movie i would love to see, a real war hero fighting it out with knife attached to his empty rifle
Those days are long gone as they should be. Strategies evolve with technologies. We have anti ship missiles that can take ships out out 100+ miles. What would be the point of getting a mile away from each other and using are 5" gun? There isn't
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All christians want the planet to be Christian.. all of them...
Haha I was hoping that would come up
This isn't the 1200's durning the crusades which was equally as terrible as Muslims are today
They come to your door and ask you to talk about good or invite you to a social
Muslims hold a gun to your head and either you convert or die, or we will also throw you off a bridge.
Religion is the root of evil it's used to control the masses and cause wars
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How are people even trying to defend racial Islam against freedom? Are they trolling or just contrarians
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Here are the facts, did Iraq have chemical weapons? Yes there is no question. Did he move then in the 18 months heading up to the war. Yep
Do I think Invading Iraq was a just cause. Personal no I dont
Did it speed up and add the recruitment of terrorist. Absolutely
But don't act like the us in the cause of terrorism
These guys want to kill ever no Muslim in the world. So why you knock us for being murders that fine you can look around the world and see the pure evil these people have used to brain washed muslims with
They are a cancer and if you want to sit back and let then bring there ideology to your front drop step that fine.
If rather go cut the tumor out before it speads
My issue with the Iraq war is that I value life more than those who decide to go to war. Sending our men and women into a war should be the absolute last resort. Because not only do we suffer casualties not just including death.. but missing limbs and mentally damaged brains as well as doing the same for other countries non combatants. People who didn't want, and have nothing to do with our problem. I don't believe we were even close to the last resort when our govenment pulled the trigger and here we are a decade later still at it after thousands of lives, hundreds of thousands of maimed and mentally effected citizens, and what exactly have we accomplished? I'm a patriotic fella, served 10 yrs in the military and was willing to die for my country, but man..it's gotta make sense...
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My issue with the Iraq war is that I value life more than those who decide to go to war. Sending our men and women into a war should be the absolute last resort. Because not only do we suffer casualties not just including death.. but missing limbs and mentally damaged brains as well as doing the same for other countries non combatants. People who didn't want, and have nothing to do with our problem. I don't believe we were even close to the last resort when our govenment pulled the trigger and here we are a decade later still at it after thousands of lives, hundreds of thousands of maimed and mentally effected citizens, and what exactly have we accomplished? I'm a patriotic fella, served 10 yrs in the military and was willing to die for my country, but man..it's gotta make sense...
I couldn't have spoken it better myself. Your 100% right. That's why I don't feel it was a just cause. That's why is so important for people to challenge and ask the right question in a educated manner. Not "no blood for oil" but real pressing questions
What done is done tho and you have to find the best out of a bad situation. I'm hoping that this woke a sleep gaint in Islam "radical Islam" and puts it in the front of the world stage to deal with it rather then have it manifested itself for another 20 years or more. That again is my hope of being optimistic.
I'm sure you been there. That place is the worst part of the world. You would be pissed if you lived there to ;D
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Yep peaceful religion
nice refererncing a book from 1500 years ago made in the dessert targeted towards Pagan Dessert Dwellers. Just so you know. Straight out of the bible
Bible >> Top 10 Violent Bible Verses
10. 2 Kings 2:23-24
He [Elisha] went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. (NRSV)
9. Exodus 32:27-29
Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)
8. 2 Chronicles 25:12
The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)
7. Judges 12:5-6
Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)
6. 1 Kings 20:28-30
Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.
So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)
5. Joshua 8:24-26
When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)
4. Deuteronomy 2:32-34
Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)
3. Deuteronomy 3:3-6
So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)
2. 1 Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)
1. Hosea 13:16
Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. (NRSV)
*Note - The Flood myth where God kills the whole world is left out.
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Yep but because a free speech dosnt mean I have to agree with it because it "edge" he disagrees with my lifestyle and career choice and I disagree with his. Just how he can voclize his option so can I
Of course. I never free speech was one sided. It affords everyone the right to speak their minds.
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Wait we are talking about Islam and you make funny if me quoting there bible? That's what the religion is based on??
You quoted Old Testament with was very violent, that's the whole point of the New Testament is to show live and compassion to all people
I'm not even chirstian and I know that.
Are you just really bad at debating or just have no clue what your defending?
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Wait we are talking about Islam and you make funny if me quoting there bible? That's what the religion is based on??
You quoted Old Testament with was very violent, that's the whole point of the New Testament is to show live and compassion to all people
I'm not even chirstian and I know that.
Are you just really bad at debating or just have no clue what your defending?
Don't even take the route of the old vs new testament. Its all bullshit and religious peoples excuse to discredit all of the violence in the old testament. not to mention that the new testament also has violence and other bad shit in it.
people cant choose to just throw away the old testament. if the old testament is the word of god, who are we to just say, "oh well, the new testament is more important, let not pay attention to the old testament?" Its funny that the word of god is so sacred, yet people will just ignore the old testament like it didn't exist. But that is supposed to be the word of god. how can you just ignore it? ::) ::) ::) doesnt work that way.
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here ya go navy mike
We could cite many reasons for the Old Testament being God’s Word, but the strongest argument comes from the Lord Jesus himself. As God in human flesh, Jesus speaks with final authority. And his testimony regarding the Old Testament is loud and clear.
Jesus believed that the Old Testament was divinely inspired, the veritable Word of God. He said, ‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35). He referred to Scripture as ‘the commandment of God’ (Matthew 15:3) and as the ‘Word of God’ (Mark 7:13). He also indicated that it was indestructible: ‘Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18).
When dealing with the people of his day, whether it was with the disciples or religious rulers, Jesus constantly referred to the Old Testament: ‘Have you not read that which was spoken to you by God?’ (Matthew 22:31); ‘Yea; and have you never read, “Out of the mouth of infants and nursing babes thou has prepared praise for thyself”?’ (Matthew 21:16, citing Psalm 8:2); and ‘Have you not read what David did?’ (Matthew 12:3). Examples could be multiplied to demonstrate that Jesus was conversant with the Old Testament and its content. He quoted from it often and he trusted it totally.
Throughout the Gospels, we find Jesus confirming many of the accounts in the Old Testament, such as the destruction of Sodom and the death of Lot’s wife (Luke 17:29, 32) the murder of Abel by his brother Cain (Luke 11:51), the calling of Moses (Mark 12:26), and the manna given in the wilderness (John 6:31–51).
The list of examples goes on, and the evidence is clear: Jesus saw the Old Testament as being God’s Word, and his attitude toward it was nothing less than total trust. Many people want to accept Jesus, yet they reject a large portion of the Old Testament. Either Jesus knew what he was talking about, or he didn’t. If a person believes in Jesus Christ, he should be consistent and believe that the Old Testament and its accounts are correct.[/b]
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here ya go navy mike
We could cite many reasons for the Old Testament being God’s Word, but the strongest argument comes from the Lord Jesus himself. As God in human flesh, Jesus speaks with final authority. And his testimony regarding the Old Testament is loud and clear.
Jesus believed that the Old Testament was divinely inspired, the veritable Word of God. He said, ‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35). He referred to Scripture as ‘the commandment of God’ (Matthew 15:3) and as the ‘Word of God’ (Mark 7:13). He also indicated that it was indestructible: ‘Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18).
When dealing with the people of his day, whether it was with the disciples or religious rulers, Jesus constantly referred to the Old Testament: ‘Have you not read that which was spoken to you by God?’ (Matthew 22:31); ‘Yea; and have you never read, “Out of the mouth of infants and nursing babes thou has prepared praise for thyself”?’ (Matthew 21:16, citing Psalm 8:2); and ‘Have you not read what David did?’ (Matthew 12:3). Examples could be multiplied to demonstrate that Jesus was conversant with the Old Testament and its content. He quoted from it often and he trusted it totally.
Throughout the Gospels, we find Jesus confirming many of the accounts in the Old Testament, such as the destruction of Sodom and the death of Lot’s wife (Luke 17:29, 32) the murder of Abel by his brother Cain (Luke 11:51), the calling of Moses (Mark 12:26), and the manna given in the wilderness (John 6:31–51).
The list of examples goes on, and the evidence is clear: Jesus saw the Old Testament as being God’s Word, and his attitude toward it was nothing less than total trust. Many people want to accept Jesus, yet they reject a large portion of the Old Testament. Either Jesus knew what he was talking about, or he didn’t. If a person believes in Jesus Christ, he should be consistent and believe that the Old Testament and its accounts are correct.[/b]
Let me preface this by saying I'm not a christan so I'm not going to act like I'm very informed on this. But that is the while point of the old version the new. It's to show evolution and that ideas and things have changed.
On one hand the Old Testament is acts of GODS violence vs what the acts of ever faithful Muslim must do. That not even in the same zip code. Show me where in either testament God or Jesus says to convert or kill the nine believes
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Don't even take the route of the old vs new testament. Its all bullshit and religious peoples excuse to discredit all of the violence in the old testament. not to mention that the new testament also has violence and other bad shit in it.
people cant choose to just throw away the old testament. if the old testament is the word of god, who are we to just say, "oh well, the new testament is more important, let not pay attention to the old testament?" Its funny that the word of god is so sacred, yet people will just ignore the old testament like it didn't exist. But that is supposed to be the word of god. how can you just ignore it? ::) ::) ::) doesnt work that way.
God crearted prozac around 1 A.D. which explains the need for the New Testament
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Let me preface this by saying I'm not a christan so I'm not going to act like I'm very informed on this. But that is the while point of the old version the new. It's to show evolution and that ideas and things have changed.
On one hand the Old Testament is acts of GODS violence vs what the acts of ever faithful Muslim must do. That not even in the same zip code. Show me where in either testament God or Jesus says to convert or kill the nine believes
The Old Testament chock full of examples of God telling people to stone/kill people for minor infractions like picking up sticks on the Sabbath.
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All christians want the planet to be Christian.. all of them...
jews and christians have become atheists who only care about money...
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jews and christians have become atheists who only care about money...
THERE IS NO GOD BUT THIS GOD
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Let me preface this by saying I'm not a christan so I'm not going to act like I'm very informed on this. But that is the while point of the old version the new. It's to show evolution and that ideas and things have changed.
On one hand the Old Testament is acts of GODS violence vs what the acts of ever faithful Muslim must do. That not even in the same zip code. Show me where in either testament God or Jesus says to convert or kill the nine believes
All I am saying is that you can't ignore the old testament because you feel like it and focus on the new testament because it fits your agenda. Not the way it works.
As for the last part, here you go. Remember, the bible is the word of god.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
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Gen. George Smith Patton was a true american/war hero, assassinated for asking a meeting with President Truman after he discovered proofs of the connection between traitor Gen. Dwight David Eisenhower, Nazis, Vatican and Soviet Union...
No.
http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Patton-Strange-Audacious-General/dp/150254959X/ref=pd_sim_b_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1DQMCEF0RAD8X3R51MY8
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Why is it christians say that the religion only killed in the crusades? Worlwide there are still a shitload of people dying because of christianity. A lot of countries kill people in the name of christ. Even in the USA
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Why is it christians say that the religion only killed in the crusades? Worlwide there are still a shitload of people dying because of christianity. A lot of countries kill people in the name of christ. Even in the USA
There is an AIDS problem in certain parts of the world because many of the people in power, who happen to be theists, oppose condoms. Its a really big issue in certain parts of the world for people.
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As for the last part, here you go. Remember, the bible is the word of god.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Jesus talking in each?
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Great movie!
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It's a film lads
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Why is it christians say that the religion only killed in the crusades? Worlwide there are still a shitload of people dying because of christianity. A lot of countries kill people in the name of christ. Even in the USA
What a load of shit. People may kill one another and happen to be Christians, but they aren't killing one another because of their faith or some perverted belief it is divinely inspired. You need to step out of your twisted denial and face facts - Islamic inspired violence is common place, committed because of the teachings of the religion and as a result Islam will always be seen as some sick, twisted ideology followed by simpletons who cannot access higher critical thinking faculties. Hope this helps.
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It's a film lads
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It's a film lads
Exactly,
I watched it and loved it.
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No.
http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Patton-Strange-Audacious-General/dp/150254959X/ref=pd_sim_b_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1DQMCEF0RAD8X3R51MY8
Yes... Killed using a "fraudulent" car accident near Mannheim, where miraculously the other occupants escaped unharmed, dying days later in a hospital... Eisenhower was a traitor, working for the Nazis and the Vatican, these facts are still covered today...
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THERE IS NO GOD BUT THIS GOD
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someone needs a strong dose of psychedelics
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Yes... Killed using a "fraudulent" car accident near Mannheim, where miraculously the other occupants escaped unharmed, dying days later in a hospital... Eisenhower was a traitor, working for the Nazis and the Vatican, these facts are still covered today...
Very good.
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Start a thread about a movie and end up with arguments about religion. Religion is BS, so are the people who "believe". Religion turns people into fully controlled, obedient and docile sheep.
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there will never be peace on earth because we re animals, and animals just spend their lives killing instead of getting killed. You want ot end wars, end life. Life constantly randomly generates inequalities and as a result, wars.
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Start a thread about a movie and end up with arguments about religion. Religion is BS, so are the people who "believe". Religion turns people into fully controlled, obedient and docile sheep.
Yeah, sorta, but people who call others sheep are often sheepish themselves.
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Yeah, sorta, but people who call others sheep are often sheepish themselves.
People who call others sheeple for calling other people sheeple are often sheeple themselves.
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People who call others sheeple for calling other people sheeple are often sheeple themselves.
Ad infinitum.
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there will never be peace on earth because we re animals, and animals just spend their lives killing instead of getting killed. You want ot end wars, end life. Life constantly randomly generates inequalities and as a result, wars.
Very true.
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Very good.
Yeah, a mainstream movie/documentary is indeed more believable, lol...
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No one is going to be 100% right, but I do believe that's these radical Muslims are pure evil nasty people that need there compete ideology whipped off the map
What about the Americans who just want to go all over the globe looking for new people to kill?
You realize after we streamrolled the Iraq army in like 3 months those "date" farmers are trained terrorist that fled in from all over the middle eat. don't say our presents created them, they where there way before we got there.
9/11?
Embassy bomb in Africa in 98
Works trade 93?
They have been around for along time
There were 3,000 when the U.S. showed up. Now there are 50,000 of "them".
Math much?
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What about the Americans who just want to go all over the globe looking for new people to kill?
There were 3,000 when the U.S. showed up. Now there are 50,000 of "them".
Math much?
Your right America is evil I open of my home and city to sharia law
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Your right America is evil I open of my home and city to sharia law
I bet you'll be screaming for sharia law once Hillary becomes president.
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Yeah, a mainstream movie/documentary is indeed more believable, lol...
No, no, YouTube basement tapes - this is where you should put your trust. Objective, well-researched, no crazy conspiracies or agendas; just facts, common sense, and unimpeachable integrity.
Also, it's not a movie/documentary; it's a book, written by his wife and fellow servicemen. Witnesses and shit, you know.
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Soon a version of muscle mass based Sharia will rule getbig and tiny tits will tremble when father Ron calls for prayer.
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:D
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I saw it yesterday, I was shocked at the ending. Never knew that.
What did the other veteran shoot him?
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I saw it yesterday, I was shocked at the ending. Never knew that.
What did the other veteran shoot him?
Turns out he was reptilian and his scope was just for show. He can see clearly up to 2000 yards.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/american-sniper-is-almost-too-dumb-to-criticize-20150121 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/american-sniper-is-almost-too-dumb-to-criticize-20150121)
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'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to Criticize
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I saw American Sniper last night, and hated it slightly less than I expected to. Like most Clint Eastwood movies – and I like Clint Eastwood movies for the most part – it's a simple, well-lit little fairy tale with the nutritional value of a fortune cookie that serves up a neatly-arranged helping of cheers and tears for target audiences, and panics at the thought of embracing more than one or two ideas at any time.
It's usually silly to get upset about the self-righteous way Hollywood moviemakers routinely turn serious subjects into baby food. Film-industry people angrily reject the notion that their movies have to be about anything (except things like "character" and "narrative" and "arc," subjects they can talk about endlessly).
This is the same Hollywood culture that turned the horror and divisiveness of the Vietnam War era into a movie about a platitude-spewing doofus with leg braces who in the face of terrible moral choices eats chocolates and plays Ping-Pong. The message of Forrest Gump was that if you think about the hard stuff too much, you'll either get AIDS or lose your legs. Meanwhile, the hero is the idiot who just shrugs and says "Whatever!" whenever his country asks him to do something crazy.
Forrest Gump pulled in over half a billion and won Best Picture. So what exactly should we have expected from American Sniper?
Not much. But even by the low low standards of this business, it still manages to sink to a new depth or two.
The thing is, the mere act of trying to make a typically Hollywoodian one-note fairy tale set in the middle of the insane moral morass that is/was the Iraq occupation is both dumber and more arrogant than anything George Bush or even Dick Cheney ever tried.
No one expected 20 minutes of backstory about the failed WMD search, Abu Ghraib, or the myriad other American atrocities and quick-trigger bombings that helped fuel the rise of ISIL and other groups.
But to turn the Iraq war into a saccharine, almost PG-rated two-hour cinematic diversion about a killing machine with a heart of gold (is there any film theme more perfectly 2015-America than that?) who slowly, very slowly, starts to feel bad after shooting enough women and children – Gump notwithstanding, that was a hard one to see coming.
Sniper is a movie whose politics are so ludicrous and idiotic that under normal circumstances it would be beneath criticism. The only thing that forces us to take it seriously is the extraordinary fact that an almost exactly similar worldview consumed the walnut-sized mind of the president who got us into the war in question.
It's the fact that the movie is popular, and actually makes sense to so many people, that's the problem. "American Sniper has the look of a bona fide cultural phenomenon!" gushed Brandon Griggs of CNN, noting the film's record $105 million opening-week box office.
Griggs added, in a review that must make Eastwood swell with pride, that the root of the film's success is that "it's about a real person," and "it's a human story, not a political one."
Well done, Clint! You made a movie about mass-bloodshed in Iraq that critics pronounced not political! That's as Hollywood as Hollywood gets.
The characters in Eastwood's movies almost always wear white and black hats or their equivalents, so you know at all times who's the good guy on the one hand, and whose exploding head we're to applaud on the other.
In this case that effect is often literal, with "hero" sniper Chris Kyle's "sinister" opposite Mustafa permanently dressed in black (with accompanying evil black pirate-stubble) throughout.
Eastwood, who surely knows better, indulges in countless crass stupidities in the movie. There's the obligatory somber scene of shirtless buffed-up SEAL Kyle and his heartthrob wife Sienna Miller gasping at the televised horror of the 9/11 attacks. Next thing you know, Kyle is in Iraq actually fighting al-Qaeda – as if there was some logical connection between 9/11 and Iraq.
Which of course there had not been, until we invaded and bombed the wrong country and turned its moonscaped cities into a recruitment breeding ground for… you guessed it, al-Qaeda. They skipped that chicken-egg dilemma in the film, though, because it would detract from the "human story."
Eastwood plays for cheap applause and goes super-dumb even by Hollywood standards when one of Kyle's officers suggests that they could "win the war" by taking out the evil sniper who is upsetting America's peaceful occupation of Sadr City.
When hunky Bradley Cooper's Kyle character subsequently takes out Mustafa with Skywalkerian long-distance panache – "Aim small, hit small," he whispers, prior to executing an impossible mile-plus shot – even the audiences in the liberal-ass Jersey City theater where I watched the movie stood up and cheered. I can only imagine the response this scene scored in Soldier of Fortune country.
To Eastwood, this was probably just good moviemaking, a scene designed to evoke the same response he got in Trouble With the Curve when his undiscovered Latin Koufax character, Rigoberto Sanchez, strikes out the evil Bonus Baby Bo Gentry (even I cheered at that scene).
The problem of course is that there's no such thing as "winning" the War on Terror militarily. In fact the occupation led to mass destruction, hundreds of thousands of deaths, a choleric lack of real sanitation, epidemic unemployment and political radicalization that continues to this day to spread beyond Iraq's borders.
Yet the movie glosses over all of this, and makes us think that killing Mustafa was some kind of decisive accomplishment – the single shot that kept terrorists out of the coffee shops of San Francisco or whatever. It's a scene that ratified every idiot fantasy of every yahoo with a target rifle from Seattle to Savannah.
The really dangerous part of this film is that it turns into a referendum on the character of a single solider. It's an unwinnable argument in either direction. We end up talking about Chris Kyle and his dilemmas, and not about the Rumsfelds and Cheneys and other officials up the chain who put Kyle and his high-powered rifle on rooftops in Iraq and asked him to shoot women and children.
They're the real villains in this movie, but the controversy has mostly been over just how much of a "hero" Chris Kyle really was. One Academy member wondered to a reporter if Kyle (who in real life was killed by a fellow troubled vet in an eerie commentary on the violence in our society that might have made a more interesting movie) was a "psychopath." Michael Moore absorbed a ton of criticism when he tweeted that "My uncle [was] killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards …"
And plenty of other commentators, comparing Kyle's book (where he remorselessly brags about killing "savages") to the film (where he is portrayed as a more rounded figure who struggled, if not verbally then at least visually, with the nature of his work), have pointed out that real-life Kyle was kind of a dick compared to movie-Kyle.
(The most disturbing passage in the book to me was the one where Kyle talked about being competitive with other snipers, and how when one in particular began to threaten his "legendary" number, Kyle "all of the sudden" seemed to have "every stinkin' bad guy in the city running across my scope." As in, wink wink, my luck suddenly changed when the sniper-race got close, get it? It's super-ugly stuff).
The thing is, it always looks bad when you criticize a soldier for doing what he's told. It's equally dangerous to be seduced by the pathos and drama of the individual solider's experience, because most wars are about something much larger than that, too.
They did this after Vietnam, when America spent decades watching movies like Deer Hunter and First Blood and Coming Home about vets struggling to reassimilate after the madness of the jungles. So we came to think of the "tragedy" of Vietnam as something primarily experienced by our guys, and not by the millions of Indochinese we killed.
That doesn't mean Vietnam Veterans didn't suffer: they did, often terribly. But making entertainment out of their dilemmas helped Americans turn their eyes from their political choices. The movies used the struggles of soldiers as a kind of human shield protecting us from thinking too much about what we'd done in places like Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos.
This is going to start happening now with the War-on-Terror movies. As CNN's Griggs writes, "We're finally ready for a movie about the Iraq War." Meaning: we're ready to be entertained by stories about how hard it was for our guys. And it might have been. But that's not the whole story and never will be.
We'll make movies about the Chris Kyles of the world and argue about whether they were heroes or not. Some were, some weren't. But in public relations as in war, it'll be the soldiers taking the bullets, not the suits in the Beltway who blithely sent them into lethal missions they were never supposed to understand.
And filmmakers like Eastwood, who could have cleared things up, only muddy the waters more. Sometimes there's no such thing as "just a human story." Sometimes a story is meaningless or worse without real context, and this is one of them.
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I saw it yesterday, I was shocked at the ending. Never knew that.
What did the other veteran shoot him?
Because he is a marine. Marines are known for shit like that.
Chris was know as the devil of Riyadh among the Iraqi insurgents.
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I saw it yesterday, I was shocked at the ending. Never knew that.
What did the other veteran shoot him?
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So was he killed by the guy he went to the range with? or some other loser?
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So was he killed by the guy he went to the range with? or some other loser?
He was Killed by American Hero Eddie Ray Routh
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He was Killed by American Hero Eddie Ray Routh
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Ok got it. Damn tough break.
So kyle lied about killing 2 guys that car jacked him too. I can see this guy was a bit of a nut.
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Ok got it. Damn tough break.
So kyle lied about killing 2 guys that car jacked him too. I can see this guy was a bit of a nut.
Of course he was nuts. The military picks out the most brain dead person with the best shot to be a sniper. No one other than a sick fuck with the need to kill people at will would sit there all day shooting people. Not shocked at all.
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He was Killed by American Hero Eddie Ray Routh
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This guy had PTSD?! I don't see a combat service ribbon on his dress-A? Wtf?
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The fake baby (doll) ruined it for me .
didn't like it
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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The fake baby (doll) ruined it for me .
didn't like it
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
mam *knock *knock* MAMM! Tend to my daughter!!!! >:(
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This guy had PTSD?! I don't see a combat service ribbon on his dress-A? Wtf?
So of those guys just Lose it over the stress of what could happen or seeing what happens to people around them. But your right no combat action. I wonder what he did over there
Ah that's a sea service ribbon on the other side. That means he was part of a esg so he spent 3 months in theater tops
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Really wanted to like it, but it was just ok. Even dopey at times. I think Cint's officially lost his mojo. Also got some problems with Kyle's credibility. No idea why it's doing so well, just a very average war film.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/american-sniper-is-almost-too-dumb-to-criticize-20150121 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/american-sniper-is-almost-too-dumb-to-criticize-20150121)
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'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to Criticize
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I saw American Sniper last night, and hated it slightly less than I expected to. Like most Clint Eastwood movies – and I like Clint Eastwood movies for the most part – it's a simple, well-lit little fairy tale with the nutritional value of a fortune cookie that serves up a neatly-arranged helping of cheers and tears for target audiences, and panics at the thought of embracing more than one or two ideas at any time.
It's usually silly to get upset about the self-righteous way Hollywood moviemakers routinely turn serious subjects into baby food. Film-industry people angrily reject the notion that their movies have to be about anything (except things like "character" and "narrative" and "arc," subjects they can talk about endlessly).
This is the same Hollywood culture that turned the horror and divisiveness of the Vietnam War era into a movie about a platitude-spewing doofus with leg braces who in the face of terrible moral choices eats chocolates and plays Ping-Pong. The message of Forrest Gump was that if you think about the hard stuff too much, you'll either get AIDS or lose your legs. Meanwhile, the hero is the idiot who just shrugs and says "Whatever!" whenever his country asks him to do something crazy.
Forrest Gump pulled in over half a billion and won Best Picture. So what exactly should we have expected from American Sniper?
Not much. But even by the low low standards of this business, it still manages to sink to a new depth or two.
The thing is, the mere act of trying to make a typically Hollywoodian one-note fairy tale set in the middle of the insane moral morass that is/was the Iraq occupation is both dumber and more arrogant than anything George Bush or even Dick Cheney ever tried.
No one expected 20 minutes of backstory about the failed WMD search, Abu Ghraib, or the myriad other American atrocities and quick-trigger bombings that helped fuel the rise of ISIL and other groups.
But to turn the Iraq war into a saccharine, almost PG-rated two-hour cinematic diversion about a killing machine with a heart of gold (is there any film theme more perfectly 2015-America than that?) who slowly, very slowly, starts to feel bad after shooting enough women and children – Gump notwithstanding, that was a hard one to see coming.
Sniper is a movie whose politics are so ludicrous and idiotic that under normal circumstances it would be beneath criticism. The only thing that forces us to take it seriously is the extraordinary fact that an almost exactly similar worldview consumed the walnut-sized mind of the president who got us into the war in question.
It's the fact that the movie is popular, and actually makes sense to so many people, that's the problem. "American Sniper has the look of a bona fide cultural phenomenon!" gushed Brandon Griggs of CNN, noting the film's record $105 million opening-week box office.
Griggs added, in a review that must make Eastwood swell with pride, that the root of the film's success is that "it's about a real person," and "it's a human story, not a political one."
Well done, Clint! You made a movie about mass-bloodshed in Iraq that critics pronounced not political! That's as Hollywood as Hollywood gets.
The characters in Eastwood's movies almost always wear white and black hats or their equivalents, so you know at all times who's the good guy on the one hand, and whose exploding head we're to applaud on the other.
In this case that effect is often literal, with "hero" sniper Chris Kyle's "sinister" opposite Mustafa permanently dressed in black (with accompanying evil black pirate-stubble) throughout.
Eastwood, who surely knows better, indulges in countless crass stupidities in the movie. There's the obligatory somber scene of shirtless buffed-up SEAL Kyle and his heartthrob wife Sienna Miller gasping at the televised horror of the 9/11 attacks. Next thing you know, Kyle is in Iraq actually fighting al-Qaeda – as if there was some logical connection between 9/11 and Iraq.
Which of course there had not been, until we invaded and bombed the wrong country and turned its moonscaped cities into a recruitment breeding ground for… you guessed it, al-Qaeda. They skipped that chicken-egg dilemma in the film, though, because it would detract from the "human story."
Eastwood plays for cheap applause and goes super-dumb even by Hollywood standards when one of Kyle's officers suggests that they could "win the war" by taking out the evil sniper who is upsetting America's peaceful occupation of Sadr City.
When hunky Bradley Cooper's Kyle character subsequently takes out Mustafa with Skywalkerian long-distance panache – "Aim small, hit small," he whispers, prior to executing an impossible mile-plus shot – even the audiences in the liberal-ass Jersey City theater where I watched the movie stood up and cheered. I can only imagine the response this scene scored in Soldier of Fortune country.
To Eastwood, this was probably just good moviemaking, a scene designed to evoke the same response he got in Trouble With the Curve when his undiscovered Latin Koufax character, Rigoberto Sanchez, strikes out the evil Bonus Baby Bo Gentry (even I cheered at that scene).
The problem of course is that there's no such thing as "winning" the War on Terror militarily. In fact the occupation led to mass destruction, hundreds of thousands of deaths, a choleric lack of real sanitation, epidemic unemployment and political radicalization that continues to this day to spread beyond Iraq's borders.
Yet the movie glosses over all of this, and makes us think that killing Mustafa was some kind of decisive accomplishment – the single shot that kept terrorists out of the coffee shops of San Francisco or whatever. It's a scene that ratified every idiot fantasy of every yahoo with a target rifle from Seattle to Savannah.
The really dangerous part of this film is that it turns into a referendum on the character of a single solider. It's an unwinnable argument in either direction. We end up talking about Chris Kyle and his dilemmas, and not about the Rumsfelds and Cheneys and other officials up the chain who put Kyle and his high-powered rifle on rooftops in Iraq and asked him to shoot women and children.
They're the real villains in this movie, but the controversy has mostly been over just how much of a "hero" Chris Kyle really was. One Academy member wondered to a reporter if Kyle (who in real life was killed by a fellow troubled vet in an eerie commentary on the violence in our society that might have made a more interesting movie) was a "psychopath." Michael Moore absorbed a ton of criticism when he tweeted that "My uncle [was] killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards …"
And plenty of other commentators, comparing Kyle's book (where he remorselessly brags about killing "savages") to the film (where he is portrayed as a more rounded figure who struggled, if not verbally then at least visually, with the nature of his work), have pointed out that real-life Kyle was kind of a dick compared to movie-Kyle.
(The most disturbing passage in the book to me was the one where Kyle talked about being competitive with other snipers, and how when one in particular began to threaten his "legendary" number, Kyle "all of the sudden" seemed to have "every stinkin' bad guy in the city running across my scope." As in, wink wink, my luck suddenly changed when the sniper-race got close, get it? It's super-ugly stuff).
The thing is, it always looks bad when you criticize a soldier for doing what he's told. It's equally dangerous to be seduced by the pathos and drama of the individual solider's experience, because most wars are about something much larger than that, too.
They did this after Vietnam, when America spent decades watching movies like Deer Hunter and First Blood and Coming Home about vets struggling to reassimilate after the madness of the jungles. So we came to think of the "tragedy" of Vietnam as something primarily experienced by our guys, and not by the millions of Indochinese we killed.
That doesn't mean Vietnam Veterans didn't suffer: they did, often terribly. But making entertainment out of their dilemmas helped Americans turn their eyes from their political choices. The movies used the struggles of soldiers as a kind of human shield protecting us from thinking too much about what we'd done in places like Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos.
This is going to start happening now with the War-on-Terror movies. As CNN's Griggs writes, "We're finally ready for a movie about the Iraq War." Meaning: we're ready to be entertained by stories about how hard it was for our guys. And it might have been. But that's not the whole story and never will be.
We'll make movies about the Chris Kyles of the world and argue about whether they were heroes or not. Some were, some weren't. But in public relations as in war, it'll be the soldiers taking the bullets, not the suits in the Beltway who blithely sent them into lethal missions they were never supposed to understand.
And filmmakers like Eastwood, who could have cleared things up, only muddy the waters more. Sometimes there's no such thing as "just a human story." Sometimes a story is meaningless or worse without real context, and this is one of them.
I stopped reading this tripe review half way through, it's leftist extremist viewpoint was making me nauseous. The reviewer could have saved everyone some time by summarizing his critique like this "I hate myself and my country and would gladly allow myself to be gang-raped by some angry Muslims."
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Great movie...
They should of shown more of his kills ;D
They showed no more than 7 or 8
Fucker had over 160 confirmed kills..
A legal serial killer / licensed to kill legend..
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I stopped reading this tripe review half way through, it's leftist extremist viewpoint was making me nauseous. The reviewer could have saved everyone some time by summarizing his critique like this "I hate myself and my country and would gladly allow myself to be gang-raped by some angry Muslims."
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Rolling Stone is another anti western propaganda outlet.
When will people get it.
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was alright. storyline was predictable as expected but still decent.
expected more action footage and gore where he took out sandkneegroes with his sniper rifle though
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Another MILITARY movie that's trying to get people to join the Military................ ....I wonder if Clint eastwood is a Freemason. TV SHOWS, MOVIES, COMMERCIALS = EMOTIONAL/BEHAVORIAL CONDITIONING.
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Another MILITARY movie trying to get people to join the Military................ ....I wonder if Clint eastwood is a Freemason. TV SHOWS, MOVIES, COMMERCIALS = EMOTIONAL/BEHAVORIAL CONDITIONING.
Weird.. I thought it would cause people to re-think joining the military
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Chris was know as the devil of Riyadh among the Iraqi insurgents.
That's actually bullshit. That's the kind of stuff you make up when you're trying to pitch a book, and later, a movie. The Iraqi insurgents never knew he existed. The insurgents were getting sniped all over the entire region. They never had a nickname for any single sniper, because there were dozens and dozens of snipers operating in the area over the multi-year campaign, and they never knew one from the other. The insurgents placed bounty's on ALL Snipers, not specifically Chris Kyle.
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That's actually bullshit. That's the kind of stuff you make up when you're trying to pitch a book, and later, a movie. The Iraqi insurgents never knew he existed. The insurgents were getting sniped all over the entire region. They never had a nickname for any single sniper, because there were dozens and dozens of snipers operating in the area over the multi-year campaign, and they never knew one from the other. The insurgents placed bounty's on ALL Snipers, not specifically Chris Kyle.
Not according to my friend who served in Iraq. He said they both the U.S. military and the insurgents knew of him and there was a large bounty on him. He said there was also a legendary Iraqi sniper picking off tons of U.S. military guys, but they weren't sure if it was just one guy or several, but apparently was highly skilled and a big worry for our guys.
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lol at the word "insurgents" you mean Iraqi citizens. That's who they fucking killed.
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Because he is a marine. Marines are known for shit like that.
Chris was know as the devil of Riyadh among the Iraqi insurgents.
That guy must have been a legit badass with a rifle.
Damn. 160 confirmed kills. Like out of a Rambo movie.
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That guy must have been a legit badass with a rifle.
Damn. 160 confirmed kills. Like out of a Rambo movie.
Umm no. Rambo killed face to face like a man. Not a coward hiding 2000 yards away.
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That guy must have been a legit badass with a rifle.
Damn. 160 confirmed kills. Like out of a Rambo movie.
just a possibility but.. if you had a hatred for the people, you could theoretically kill more of them than your sniper counter parts who were just as talented but more discerning in their targets...I'm not saying that's the case, but I wouldn't rule it out. What's the average confirm kills for a sniper per year in similar situations?
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lol at the word "insurgents" you mean Iraqi citizens. That's who they fucking killed.
Yeah pretty much :-\
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lol at the word "insurgents" you mean Iraqi citizens. That's who they fucking killed.
Most of the ' insurgents ' weren't even Iraqis , they were foreigners who wanted to fight the Infidels. Iraqis were killing Iraqis long before the U.S. ever got there and it will continue long after we're gone.
We should have never gone to Iraq but I laugh when people act like they actually fucking care about the Iraqi people ::) Boko Horam is killing people wholesale but not a peep from anyone the selective outrage is laughable and shows people's motivations.
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Most of the ' insurgents ' weren't even Iraqis , they were foreigners who wanted to fight the Infidels. Iraqis were killing Iraqis long before the U.S. ever got there and it will continue long after we're gone.
We should have never gone to Iraq but I laugh when people act like they actually fucking care about the Iraqi people ::) Boko Horam is killing people wholesale but not a peep from anyone the selective outrage is laughable and shows people's motivations.
Yeah I just seen a photo of like 200 Hebrew corpses piled up and not a peep from any of these guys getting all butt hurt cause Chris Kyle was the Michael Jordan/Wayne Gretzky of snipers.
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Yeah I just seen a photo of like 200 Hebrew corpses piled up and not a peep from any of these guys getting all butt hurt cause Chris Kyle was the Michael Jordan/Wayne Gretzky of snipers.
They don't care about Iraqi's or Africans or anyone , they care about bashing America because it's fashionable. They act like Kyle was shooting innocent civilians for the fun of it. ::)
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They don't care about Iraqi's or Africans or anyone , they care about bashing America because it's fashionable. They act like Kyle was shooting innocent civilians for the fun of it. ::)
The Boko Haram issue has to be "go viral" or "become trendy" then people will care for about a week before going back to bashing Americans.
(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3512400.ece/alternates/s2197/Bring-Back-Our-Girls-Michelle-Obama.jpg)
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The Boko Haram issue has to be "go viral" or "become trendy" then people will care for about a week before going back to bashing Americans.
(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3512400.ece/alternates/s2197/Bring-Back-Our-Girls-Michelle-Obama.jpg)
Someone needs to photochop this to say #freevince or #soulcrusher, why aren't you calling me baby.
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Most of the ' insurgents ' weren't even Iraqis , they were foreigners who wanted to fight the Infidels. Iraqis were killing Iraqis long before the U.S. ever got there and it will continue long after we're gone.
We should have never gone to Iraq but I laugh when people act like they actually fucking care about the Iraqi people ::) Boko Horam is killing people wholesale but not a peep from anyone the selective outrage is laughable and shows people's motivations.
well boko haram is supposed to be a terrorist group and the US is the self appointed policeman and moral compass of the world. so the former by definition are expected to go around killing indiscriminately....and the latter are not.
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well boko haram is supposed to be a terrorist group and the US is the self appointed policeman and moral compass of the world. so the former by definition are expected to go around killing indiscriminately....and the latter are not.
killing indiscriminately
Seriously? ::) You think Americans are killing people indiscriminately? a lot of innocent Iraqis have died no questions about it. Like I said we should have never been there to begin with but please , Saddam was killing Iraqis wholesale before Americans ever set foot in country , people don't care one fucking bit about the Iraqi people it's the fake moral outrage that makes me roll my eyes.
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Seriously? ::) You think Americans are killing people indiscriminately? a lot of innocent Iraqis have died no questions about it. Like I said we should have never been there to begin with but please , Saddam was killing Iraqis wholesale before Americans ever set foot in country , people don't care one fucking bit about the Iraqi people it's the fake moral outrage that makes me roll my eyes.
These guys are like cartoon characters at this point with their fake moral outrage.
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These guys are like cartoon characters at this point with their fake moral outrage.
They are , Iraqi lives matter when Americans are taking them , Iraqi lives don't matter as long as Iraqis are taking them ::) same with black lives all the hollering about a couple of black teens when in Chicago it's like a free-for-all in black deaths and not a peep
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Weird.. I thought it would cause people to re-think joining the military
True...................i t can make people Re-think joining the military OR very much make them want to join.
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Seriously? ::) You think Americans are killing people indiscriminately? a lot of innocent Iraqis have died no questions about it. Like I said we should have never been there to begin with but please , Saddam was killing Iraqis wholesale before Americans ever set foot in country , people don't care one fucking bit about the Iraqi people it's the fake moral outrage that makes me roll my eyes.
100s of thousands of iraqi civilians died as a result of the invasion of iraq, millions displaced... the country was turned completely upside down and is currently being taken over by militant islamists...all of that because of a false accusation...boko haram & co could only wish to cause 1/10th of that "terror"....and they are supposed to be the terrorists!
and talking about fake moral outrage....look at the charlie hebdo sht, outrage all over the western world. yet 5 american soldiers gang rape a 14 year old iraqi girl and kill her whole family including a 6 yr old brother , no one bats an eyelid.
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100s of thousands of iraqi civilians died as a result of the invasion of iraq, millions displaced... the country was turned completely upside down and is currently being taken over by militant islamists...all of that because of a false accusation...boko haram & co could only wish to cause 1/10th of that "terror"....and they are supposed to be the terrorists!
and talking about fake moral outrage....look at the charlie hebdo sht, outrage all over the western world. yet 5 american soldiers gang rape a 14 year old iraqi girl and kill her whole family including a 6 yr old brother , no one bats an eyelid.
Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion. Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.
Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says. Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday.Oct 15, 2013
Know one can know what for sure caused all the deaths in Iraq. You say that the U.S. just kills them just cause. Care to prove that with any proof other then what you think??
It's war it's not pretty by no means I'm a justifying those soldiers actions but because some fucking trash soldiers from backwoods Arkansas does not mean they are all evil. I'm sure Iraqis rap each other all the time.
So me a video of soldiers throwing people of a bridge and or killing hundreds by shooting them and throwing them in a river and lets see if no one cares
Btw when I google this "rape" the only thing I can find is a shitty YouTube video. I need to see something from a trusted source please
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Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion. Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.
Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says. Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday.Oct 15, 2013
Know one can know what for sure caused all the deaths in Iraq. You say that the U.S. just kills them just cause. Care to prove that with any proof other then what you think??
It's war it's not pretty by no means I'm a justifying those soldiers actions but because some fucking trash soldiers from backwoods Arkansas does not mean they are all evil. I'm sure Iraqis rap each other all the time.
So me a video of soldiers throwing people of a bridge and or killing hundreds by shooting them and throwing them in a river and lets see if no one cares
Btw when I google this "rape" the only thing I can find is a shitty YouTube video. I need to see something from a trusted source please
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings
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They are , Iraqi lives matter when Americans are taking them , Iraqi lives don't matter as long as Iraqis are taking them ::) same with black lives all the hollering about a couple of black teens when in Chicago it's like a free-for-all in black deaths and not a peep
Indeed. Those Bokos are monsters now, but as soon as America gets sucked into an intervention, they will become victims.
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Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion. Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.
Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says. Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday.Oct 15, 2013
Know one can know what for sure caused all the deaths in Iraq. You say that the U.S. just kills them just cause. Care to prove that with any proof other then what you think??
It's war it's not pretty by no means I'm a justifying those soldiers actions but because some fucking trash soldiers from backwoods Arkansas does not mean they are all evil. I'm sure Iraqis rap each other all the time.
So me a video of soldiers throwing people of a bridge and or killing hundreds by shooting them and throwing them in a river and lets see if no one cares
Btw when I google this "rape" the only thing I can find is a shitty YouTube video. I need to see something from a trusted source please
it makes zero difference how many people sadam may have killed, it takes nothing away from what the US and co has done there. the bottom line is you attacked iraq on the false premise that they had weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to you...that has been proven to be utter BS
so 1/2 milion + iraqis died , millions displaced, country fked beyond fked all as a result of a US lie and an illegal invasion. and i never sais "the US kills them just because". i'm pretty sure your government has it's reasons, but i don't believe the reasons they give publicly. it's also worth bearing in mind when talking about how evil a tyrant sadam was, that the US were his allies in the war against iran, there is even evidence that the US was complicit in his use of chemical weapons against iran.
"Iraq used mustard gas and sarin in early 1988 in four major offensives which helped bring about the end of the eight-year conflict. During the whole war, up to 20,000 Iranian troops were killed by mustard gas and nerve agents from Iraq and 100,000 were wounded. They were able to launch the strikes after being given maps, satellite pictures and other intelligence by the U.S.
The Americans have always said that Iraq did not reveal that they would launch chemical strikes. But documents released in the National Archives and interviews with former serviceman show that the U.S. acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons as they tried to help Saddam with the war"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402174/CIA-helped-Saddam-Hussein-make-chemical-weapons-attack-Iran-1988-Ronald-Reagan.html#ixzz3Pdojp1e0
so the gang rape of a 14yr old and murder of an entire family is not enough? you won't accept it's evil till you see a video of US soldiers throwing people off a bridge or shooting hundreds ??? i'm pretty sure if you google it you can find several more atrocities. but tbh i don't think the soldiers are really the problem, they're just pawns in the game.
"A U.S. soldier was sentenced to 100 years in prison Thursday for the gang rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family last year."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17247852/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/gi-gets-years-raping-iraqi-girl-murders/#.VMItUEesX94
will that source do?
proves my point though, i'm sure you were well aware of the charlie hebdo case but had no idea about this or other incidents perpetrated on innocents by your own soldiers.
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it makes zero difference how many people sadam may have killed, it takes nothing away from what the US and co has done there. the bottom line is you attacked iraq on the false premise that they had weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to you...that has been proven to be utter BS
so 1/2 milion + iraqis died , millions displaced, country fked beyond fked all as a result of a US lie and an illegal invasion. and i never sais "the US kills them just because". i'm pretty sure your government has it's reasons, but i don't believe the reasons they give publicly. it's also worth bearing in mind when talking about how evil a tyrant sadam was, that the US were his allies in the war against iran, there is even evidence that the US was complicit in his use of chemical weapons against iran.
"Iraq used mustard gas and sarin in early 1988 in four major offensives which helped bring about the end of the eight-year conflict. During the whole war, up to 20,000 Iranian troops were killed by mustard gas and nerve agents from Iraq and 100,000 were wounded. They were able to launch the strikes after being given maps, satellite pictures and other intelligence by the U.S.
The Americans have always said that Iraq did not reveal that they would launch chemical strikes. But documents released in the National Archives and interviews with former serviceman show that the U.S. acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons as they tried to help Saddam with the war.
"And co" meaning England, right? Seems our UK mates were cool with the false premises and lies, too; cool enough for 45,000 troops, anyway.
Just wanna make sure we share some credit with our trusted ally is all.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/dec/12/tony-blair-iraq-chilcot-inquiry
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No, no, YouTube basement tapes - this is where you should put your trust. Objective, well-researched, no crazy conspiracies or agendas; just facts, common sense, and unimpeachable integrity.
Also, it's not a movie/documentary; it's a book, written by his wife and fellow servicemen. Witnesses and shit, you know.
The Ugly, thanks for not responding with ad-hominem and offences... You have your opinion and i respect it, but i know what i know, no crazy conspiracies, just history, extremely "well-researched" true history after years and years, passing through mistakes and bullshits, history twisted by "winners" and the governing evil individuals who shaped our past, present and future... Patton was killed for the reasons i said, he was a true american patriot and hero, contrary to traitors and criminals like Eisenhower and Roosevelt for example...
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it makes zero difference how many people sadam may have killed, it takes nothing away from what the US and co has done there. the bottom line is you attacked iraq on the false premise that they had weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to you...that has been proven to be utter BS
so 1/2 milion + iraqis died , millions displaced, country fked beyond fked all as a result of a US lie and an illegal invasion. and i never sais "the US kills them just because". i'm pretty sure your government has it's reasons, but i don't believe the reasons they give publicly. it's also worth bearing in mind when talking about how evil a tyrant sadam was, that the US were his allies in the war against iran, there is even evidence that the US was complicit in his use of chemical weapons against iran.
"Iraq used mustard gas and sarin in early 1988 in four major offensives which helped bring about the end of the eight-year conflict. During the whole war, up to 20,000 Iranian troops were killed by mustard gas and nerve agents from Iraq and 100,000 were wounded. They were able to launch the strikes after being given maps, satellite pictures and other intelligence by the U.S.
The Americans have always said that Iraq did not reveal that they would launch chemical strikes. But documents released in the National Archives and interviews with former serviceman show that the U.S. acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons as they tried to help Saddam with the war"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402174/CIA-helped-Saddam-Hussein-make-chemical-weapons-attack-Iran-1988-Ronald-Reagan.html#ixzz3Pdojp1e0
so the gang rape of a 14yr old and murder of an entire family is not enough? you won't accept it's evil till you see a video of US soldiers throwing people off a bridge or shooting hundreds ??? i'm pretty sure if you google it you can find several more atrocities. but tbh i don't think the soldiers are really the problem, they're just pawns in the game.
"A U.S. soldier was sentenced to 100 years in prison Thursday for the gang rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family last year."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17247852/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/gi-gets-years-raping-iraqi-girl-murders/#.VMItUEesX94
will that source do?
proves my point though, i'm sure you were well aware of the charlie hebdo case but had no idea about this or other incidents perpetrated on innocents by your own soldiers.
To speak on the lines of supporting Suddam we did, yes, like we also did Iran and Castro until they turned on us. Iran was more of a takeover but they still use all the stuff we have them in the 70's.
At this scale it's a international games of chess, that all counties have to play. Are all the moves right? At the time they might seem so. Do you know about all the right calls we have made? Of course not because everything went well. There was is a lot more that goes into these choices that you or me will ever know or fully understand. Here are simple truths: Without the U.S. innovations and world interactions the world wouldn't be anywhere close to where it is now, fiscally, socially and military for good and bad.
Here is something you don't know and I don't expect you to since you have never studied nor had the intel to know this but just the presence of the U.S. in the Middle East keeps Iran at bay. They would takeover and mine the Straits in a day... Then your looking at 70% of the world oil flow in control of Iran. That gas prices at 10.00 bucks a gallon and I world market that would become so wrecked there would be a a world depression but would you no that? No, you shouldnt because that's not something a consumer should no. But the big evil American capitals have been doing it for 40+ years.
What's your point? People get raped by the 1000's each day in every part of the world. Do terrorist bust in to place in France and murder people every day. In sure multiple people got raped in France that same day. Are you upset they didn't report that?
The media reports on what people want to know about... A terrorist shotting out side of the Middle East or a rap case... That mught sound harsh but that's life
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To speak on the lines of supporting Suddam we did yes like we also did Iran and Castro until they turned on us. Iran was more a take over but they still use all the stuff we have them in the 70's
At this scale it's a international games of chest, that all counties have to play. Are all the moves right? At the time they might seem so. Do you know about all the right calls we have made, of course not because everthing went well. There was is a lot more that goes into these choices that you or me will ever no or fully understand. He are simple truths. With out the us innovations and world interactions the world wouldn't be anywhere close to where it is now, fiscally, socially and military for good and bad.
He is something you don't know and I don't expect you to since you have never studied nor had the intel to know this but just the presence of the U.S. in the Middle East keeps Iran at bay. They would take and mine the straights in a day.. Then your looking at 70% of the world oill flow in control of Iran. That gas prices at 10.00 bucks a gallon and I world market that would become so wrecked there would be a a world depression but would you no that? No you shouldnt because that's not something a consumer should no. But the big evil American capitals have been doing it for 40+ years
What's your point? People get raped by the 1000's each day in every part of the world. Do terrorist bust in to place in France and murder people every day. In sure multiple people got raped in France that same day. Are you upset they didn't report that?
The media reports on what people want to know about... A terrorist shotting out side of the Middle East or a rap case... That mught sound harsh but that's life
no disrespect to you because i guess from your username that you are US military yourself and therefore i understand your difficulty in viewing these issues objectively , but the above post is gibberish at best.
the US invasion of iraq has strengthened iran's position in the region 10 fold . why do you think your government was so intent on trying to even the balance somewhat by toppling assad's regime in syria ? oh sry i forgot that was because they wanted to save all those poor syrian civilians ::)
sure there are rapes everywhere in the world but when was the last time a gang rape + murder of an entire family happened in the US that you never even heard of in the media...as you hadn't with the one committed by your soldiers whilst liberating iraq...
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To speak on the lines of supporting Suddam we did yes like we also did Iran and Castro until they turned on us. Iran was more a take over but they still use all the stuff we have them in the 70's
At this scale it's a international games of chest, that all counties have to play. Are all the moves right? At the time they might seem so. Do you know about all the right calls we have made, of course not because everthing went well. There was is a lot more that goes into these choices that you or me will ever no or fully understand. He are simple truths. With out the us innovations and world interactions the world wouldn't be anywhere close to where it is now, fiscally, socially and military for good and bad.
He is something you don't know and I don't expect you to since you have never studied nor had the intel to know this but just the presence of the U.S. in the Middle East keeps Iran at bay. They would take and mine the straights in a day.. Then your looking at 70% of the world oill flow in control of Iran. That gas prices at 10.00 bucks a gallon and I world market that would become so wrecked there would be a a world depression but would you no that? No you shouldnt because that's not something a consumer should no. But the big evil American capitals have been doing it for 40+ years
What's your point? People get raped by the 1000's each day in every part of the world. Do terrorist bust in to place in France and murder people every day. In sure multiple people got raped in France that same day. Are you upset they didn't report that?
The media reports on what people want to know about... A terrorist shotting out side of the Middle East or a rap case... That mught sound harsh but that's life
Time to step forward and take a bow. Who's running this account?
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can all those people who hasnt even seen the movie stay away from this thread? thanks.
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Time to step forward and take a bow. Who's running this account?
I start college this week, I am now better then everyone else, smart and liberal
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can all those people who hasnt even seen the movie stay away from this thread? thanks.
I'll admit it when I saw it I had some tears and was left messed up for a few hours after. Lost a few marine buddies over there and had to do rehab with guys that lost legs and arms. Those guys deserve the world! They where still full of life. True heros in my eyes not to be bitter about it
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I start college this week, I am now better then everyone else, smart and liberal
Liberal Arts?
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I start college this week, I am now better then everyone else, smart and liberal
You better improve your writing skills.
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no disrespect to you because i guess from your username that you are US military yourself and therefore i understand your difficulty in viewing these issues objectively , but the above post is gibberish at best.
the US invasion of iraq has strengthened iran's position in the region 10 fold . why do you think your government was so intent on trying to even the balance somewhat by toppling assad's regime in syria ? oh sry i forgot that was because they wanted to save all those poor syrian civilians ::)
sure there are rapes everywhere in the world but when was the last time a gang rape + murder of an entire family happened in the US that you never even heard of in the media...as you hadn't with the one committed by your soldiers whilst liberating iraq...
I have full respect you opinion and in a free society we have to have people that question authority has you should, there elected by the people to serve the people.
You help bring both sides to the table and I'm not to prideful to admit you are right on some point and I feel I'm right on some of man.
You just want accountability for all the power the U.S. has and they absolute have to be held accountable. The thing is there are always going to be some who agree and disagree on ever political or military move
Btw if those where my guy? I would have killed them myself
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You better improve your writing skills.
Fuck I know I'm in writing with a lab attached to help me, I'm dyslexic so what it in my head and how I speak is difficult for me to put on paper. My ideas run faster then I can type plus I can't spell for shit
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Liberal Arts?
Haha fuck no I'm a technical guy. Mechanical engineering that might change but I'm in the pipe line for engineering and plan on staying there
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Haha fuck no I'm a technical guy. Mechanical engineering that might change but I'm in the pipe line for engineering and plan on staying there
I'm sure you'll be hobbing worms in no time, stud.
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I'm sure you'll be hobbing worms in no time, stud.
I'm sure this was disrespectful in some way but I don't get this one
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Just a little machining humor for the aspiring engineeer.
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Just a little machining humor for the aspiring engineeer.
Haha he I was thinking it was fucking fat chicks or something. I'm in getbig mode lol
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I saw American Sniper tonight and it was very good. Parts seemed a little far-fetched, but all in all it was well done.
At the end of the movie the theater was almost completely silent except for a few people crying.
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I saw American Sniper tonight and it was very good. Parts seemed a little far-fetched, but all in all it was well done.
At the end of the movie the theater was almost completely silent except for a few people crying.
same reaction of movie goers here in NYC....the theater was dead silent after the credits rolled....good movie
and well done....did his family proud
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i thought it was ok but coudlve been better. i cant help to compare it to other war movies, there really no scenes that stand out that much or are memorable, i compare sniper vs sniper with enemy of the gates, or the sniper scene in full metal jacket... or the chopper scenes of apocalypse now.
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HBO's Generation Kill is far better
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i thought it was ok but coudlve been better. i cant help to compare it to other war movies, there really no scenes that stand out that much or are memorable, i compare sniper vs sniper with enemy of the gates, or the sniper scene in full metal jacket... or the chopper scenes of apocalypse now.
It wasn't Saving Private Ryan, but it was very good.
Made me want to see Seth Rogen get kidnapped by insurgents.