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Re: American Sniper - Who has seen this movie?
« Reply #150 on: January 22, 2015, 10:46:57 AM »


Chris was know as the devil of Riyadh among the Iraqi insurgents.

That's actually bullshit.  That's the kind of stuff you make up when you're trying to pitch a book, and later, a movie.  The Iraqi insurgents never knew he existed. The insurgents were getting sniped all over the entire region. They never had a nickname for any single sniper, because there were dozens and dozens of snipers operating in the area over the multi-year campaign, and they never knew one from the other.  The insurgents placed bounty's on ALL Snipers, not specifically Chris Kyle.  


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« Reply #151 on: January 22, 2015, 11:29:44 AM »
That's actually bullshit.  That's the kind of stuff you make up when you're trying to pitch a book, and later, a movie.  The Iraqi insurgents never knew he existed. The insurgents were getting sniped all over the entire region. They never had a nickname for any single sniper, because there were dozens and dozens of snipers operating in the area over the multi-year campaign, and they never knew one from the other.  The insurgents placed bounty's on ALL Snipers, not specifically Chris Kyle.  



Not according to my friend who served in Iraq. He said they both the U.S. military and the insurgents knew of him and there was a large bounty on him. He said there was also a legendary Iraqi sniper picking off tons of U.S. military guys, but they weren't sure if it was just one guy or several, but apparently was highly skilled and a big worry for our guys.

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« Reply #152 on: January 22, 2015, 11:56:53 AM »
lol at the word "insurgents"  you mean Iraqi citizens.  That's who they fucking killed.

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« Reply #153 on: January 22, 2015, 12:18:33 PM »
Because he is a marine. Marines are known for shit like that.

Chris was know as the devil of Riyadh among the Iraqi insurgents.

That guy must have been a legit badass with a rifle.

Damn. 160 confirmed kills. Like out of a Rambo movie.

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« Reply #154 on: January 22, 2015, 12:34:22 PM »
That guy must have been a legit badass with a rifle.

Damn. 160 confirmed kills. Like out of a Rambo movie.

Umm no.  Rambo killed face to face like a man.  Not a coward hiding 2000 yards away.

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« Reply #155 on: January 22, 2015, 12:35:42 PM »
That guy must have been a legit badass with a rifle.

Damn. 160 confirmed kills. Like out of a Rambo movie.


just a possibility but.. if you had a hatred for the people, you could theoretically kill more of them than your sniper counter parts who were just as talented but more discerning in their targets...I'm not saying that's the case, but I wouldn't rule it out. What's the average confirm kills for a sniper per year in similar situations?

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« Reply #156 on: January 22, 2015, 12:40:06 PM »
lol at the word "insurgents"  you mean Iraqi citizens.  That's who they fucking killed.

Yeah pretty much  :-\

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« Reply #157 on: January 22, 2015, 12:41:34 PM »
lol at the word "insurgents"  you mean Iraqi citizens.  That's who they fucking killed.

Most of the ' insurgents ' weren't even Iraqis , they were foreigners who wanted to fight the Infidels. Iraqis were killing Iraqis long before the U.S. ever got there and it will continue long after we're gone.

We should have never gone to Iraq but I laugh when people act like they actually fucking care about the Iraqi people  ::) Boko Horam is killing people wholesale but not a peep from anyone the selective outrage is laughable and shows people's motivations.

 

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« Reply #158 on: January 22, 2015, 12:46:08 PM »
Most of the ' insurgents ' weren't even Iraqis , they were foreigners who wanted to fight the Infidels. Iraqis were killing Iraqis long before the U.S. ever got there and it will continue long after we're gone.

We should have never gone to Iraq but I laugh when people act like they actually fucking care about the Iraqi people  ::) Boko Horam is killing people wholesale but not a peep from anyone the selective outrage is laughable and shows people's motivations.

 

Yeah I just seen a photo of like 200 Hebrew corpses piled up and not a peep from any of these guys getting all butt hurt cause Chris Kyle was the Michael Jordan/Wayne Gretzky of snipers.

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« Reply #159 on: January 22, 2015, 12:49:33 PM »
Yeah I just seen a photo of like 200 Hebrew corpses piled up and not a peep from any of these guys getting all butt hurt cause Chris Kyle was the Michael Jordan/Wayne Gretzky of snipers.

They don't care about Iraqi's or Africans or anyone , they care about bashing America because it's fashionable. They act like Kyle was shooting innocent civilians for the fun of it.  ::)




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« Reply #160 on: January 22, 2015, 12:53:21 PM »
They don't care about Iraqi's or Africans or anyone , they care about bashing America because it's fashionable. They act like Kyle was shooting innocent civilians for the fun of it.  ::)





The Boko Haram issue has to be "go viral" or "become trendy" then people will care for about a week before going back to bashing Americans.


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« Reply #161 on: January 22, 2015, 12:58:40 PM »
The Boko Haram issue has to be "go viral" or "become trendy" then people will care for about a week before going back to bashing Americans.



Someone needs to photochop this to say #freevince  or #soulcrusher, why aren't you calling me baby.

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« Reply #162 on: January 22, 2015, 01:11:10 PM »
Most of the ' insurgents ' weren't even Iraqis , they were foreigners who wanted to fight the Infidels. Iraqis were killing Iraqis long before the U.S. ever got there and it will continue long after we're gone.

We should have never gone to Iraq but I laugh when people act like they actually fucking care about the Iraqi people  ::) Boko Horam is killing people wholesale but not a peep from anyone the selective outrage is laughable and shows people's motivations.

 

well boko haram is supposed to be a terrorist group and the US is the self appointed policeman and moral compass of the world. so the former by definition are expected to go around killing indiscriminately....and the latter are not.

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« Reply #163 on: January 22, 2015, 01:19:45 PM »
well boko haram is supposed to be a terrorist group and the US is the self appointed policeman and moral compass of the world. so the former by definition are expected to go around killing indiscriminately....and the latter are not.


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Seriously?  ::) You think Americans are killing people indiscriminately? a lot of innocent Iraqis have died no questions about it. Like I said we should have never been there to begin with but please , Saddam was killing Iraqis wholesale before Americans ever set foot in country , people don't care one fucking bit about the Iraqi people it's the fake moral outrage that makes me roll my eyes.




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« Reply #164 on: January 22, 2015, 01:24:23 PM »
Seriously?  ::) You think Americans are killing people indiscriminately? a lot of innocent Iraqis have died no questions about it. Like I said we should have never been there to begin with but please , Saddam was killing Iraqis wholesale before Americans ever set foot in country , people don't care one fucking bit about the Iraqi people it's the fake moral outrage that makes me roll my eyes.





These guys are like cartoon characters at this point with their fake moral outrage.

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« Reply #165 on: January 22, 2015, 01:40:28 PM »
These guys are like cartoon characters at this point with their fake moral outrage.

They are , Iraqi lives matter when Americans are taking them , Iraqi lives don't matter as long as Iraqis are taking them  ::) same with black lives all the hollering about a couple of black teens when in Chicago it's like a free-for-all in black deaths and not a peep


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« Reply #166 on: January 22, 2015, 01:52:30 PM »
Weird.. I thought it would cause people to re-think joining the military
True...................i t can make people Re-think joining the military OR very much make them want to join.

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« Reply #167 on: January 22, 2015, 02:07:09 PM »
Seriously?  ::) You think Americans are killing people indiscriminately? a lot of innocent Iraqis have died no questions about it. Like I said we should have never been there to begin with but please , Saddam was killing Iraqis wholesale before Americans ever set foot in country , people don't care one fucking bit about the Iraqi people it's the fake moral outrage that makes me roll my eyes.





100s of thousands of iraqi civilians died as a result of the invasion of iraq, millions displaced... the country was turned completely upside down and is currently being taken over by militant islamists...all of that because of a false accusation...boko haram & co could only wish to cause 1/10th of that "terror"....and they are supposed to be the terrorists!

and talking about fake moral outrage....look at the charlie hebdo sht, outrage all over the western world. yet 5 american soldiers gang rape a 14 year old iraqi girl and kill her whole family including a 6 yr old brother , no one bats an eyelid.

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« Reply #168 on: January 22, 2015, 03:59:03 PM »
100s of thousands of iraqi civilians died as a result of the invasion of iraq, millions displaced... the country was turned completely upside down and is currently being taken over by militant islamists...all of that because of a false accusation...boko haram & co could only wish to cause 1/10th of that "terror"....and they are supposed to be the terrorists!

and talking about fake moral outrage....look at the charlie hebdo sht, outrage all over the western world. yet 5 american soldiers gang rape a 14 year old iraqi girl and kill her whole family including a 6 yr old brother , no one bats an eyelid.

Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion. Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.

Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says. Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday.Oct 15, 2013

Know one can know what for sure caused all the deaths in Iraq. You say that the U.S. just kills them just cause. Care to prove that with any proof other then what you think??


It's war it's not pretty by no means I'm a justifying those soldiers actions but because some fucking trash soldiers from backwoods Arkansas does not mean they are all evil. I'm sure Iraqis rap each other all the time.
So me a video of soldiers throwing people of a bridge and or killing hundreds by shooting them and throwing them in a river and lets see if no one cares

Btw when I google this "rape" the only thing I can find is a shitty YouTube video. I need to see something from a trusted source please

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« Reply #169 on: January 22, 2015, 04:59:00 PM »
Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion. Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.

Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says. Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday.Oct 15, 2013

Know one can know what for sure caused all the deaths in Iraq. You say that the U.S. just kills them just cause. Care to prove that with any proof other then what you think??


It's war it's not pretty by no means I'm a justifying those soldiers actions but because some fucking trash soldiers from backwoods Arkansas does not mean they are all evil. I'm sure Iraqis rap each other all the time.
So me a video of soldiers throwing people of a bridge and or killing hundreds by shooting them and throwing them in a river and lets see if no one cares

Btw when I google this "rape" the only thing I can find is a shitty YouTube video. I need to see something from a trusted source please

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings

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Re: American Sniper - Who has seen this movie?
« Reply #170 on: January 22, 2015, 08:50:53 PM »
They are , Iraqi lives matter when Americans are taking them , Iraqi lives don't matter as long as Iraqis are taking them  ::) same with black lives all the hollering about a couple of black teens when in Chicago it's like a free-for-all in black deaths and not a peep



Indeed. Those Bokos are monsters now, but as soon as America gets sucked into an intervention, they will become victims.


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« Reply #171 on: January 23, 2015, 03:21:12 AM »
Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion. Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.

Iraq Death Toll Reaches 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion, New Study Says. Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday.Oct 15, 2013

Know one can know what for sure caused all the deaths in Iraq. You say that the U.S. just kills them just cause. Care to prove that with any proof other then what you think??


It's war it's not pretty by no means I'm a justifying those soldiers actions but because some fucking trash soldiers from backwoods Arkansas does not mean they are all evil. I'm sure Iraqis rap each other all the time.
So me a video of soldiers throwing people of a bridge and or killing hundreds by shooting them and throwing them in a river and lets see if no one cares

Btw when I google this "rape" the only thing I can find is a shitty YouTube video. I need to see something from a trusted source please


it makes zero difference how many people sadam may have killed, it takes nothing away from what the US and co has done there.  the bottom line is you attacked iraq on the false premise that they had weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to you...that has been proven to be utter BS

so 1/2 milion + iraqis died , millions displaced, country fked beyond fked all as a result of a US lie and an illegal invasion. and i never sais "the US kills them just because". i'm pretty sure your government has it's reasons, but i don't believe the reasons they give publicly. it's also worth bearing in mind when talking about how evil a tyrant sadam was, that the US were his allies in the war against iran, there is even evidence that the US was complicit in his use of chemical weapons against iran.

"Iraq used mustard gas and sarin in early 1988 in four major offensives which helped bring about the end of the eight-year conflict. During the whole war, up to 20,000 Iranian troops were killed by mustard gas and nerve agents from Iraq and 100,000 were wounded. They were able to launch the strikes after being given maps, satellite pictures and other intelligence by the U.S.

The Americans have always said that Iraq did not reveal that they would launch chemical strikes. But documents released in the National Archives and interviews with former serviceman show that the U.S. acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons as they tried to help Saddam with the war"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402174/CIA-helped-Saddam-Hussein-make-chemical-weapons-attack-Iran-1988-Ronald-Reagan.html#ixzz3Pdojp1e0

so the gang rape of a 14yr old and murder of an entire family is not enough? you won't accept it's evil till you see a video of US soldiers throwing people off a bridge or shooting hundreds  ???  i'm pretty sure if you google it you can find several more atrocities. but tbh i don't think the soldiers are really the problem, they're just pawns in the game.

"A U.S. soldier was sentenced to 100 years in prison Thursday for the gang rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family last year."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17247852/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/gi-gets-years-raping-iraqi-girl-murders/#.VMItUEesX94


will that source do?

proves my point though, i'm sure you were well aware of the charlie hebdo case but had no idea about this or other incidents perpetrated on innocents by your own soldiers.

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Re: American Sniper - Who has seen this movie?
« Reply #172 on: January 23, 2015, 04:30:50 AM »

it makes zero difference how many people sadam may have killed, it takes nothing away from what the US and co has done there.  the bottom line is you attacked iraq on the false premise that they had weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to you...that has been proven to be utter BS

so 1/2 milion + iraqis died , millions displaced, country fked beyond fked all as a result of a US lie and an illegal invasion. and i never sais "the US kills them just because". i'm pretty sure your government has it's reasons, but i don't believe the reasons they give publicly. it's also worth bearing in mind when talking about how evil a tyrant sadam was, that the US were his allies in the war against iran, there is even evidence that the US was complicit in his use of chemical weapons against iran.

"Iraq used mustard gas and sarin in early 1988 in four major offensives which helped bring about the end of the eight-year conflict. During the whole war, up to 20,000 Iranian troops were killed by mustard gas and nerve agents from Iraq and 100,000 were wounded. They were able to launch the strikes after being given maps, satellite pictures and other intelligence by the U.S.

The Americans have always said that Iraq did not reveal that they would launch chemical strikes. But documents released in the National Archives and interviews with former serviceman show that the U.S. acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons as they tried to help Saddam with the war.

"And co" meaning England, right? Seems our UK mates were cool with the false premises and lies, too; cool enough for 45,000 troops, anyway.

Just wanna make sure we share some credit with our trusted ally is all.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/dec/12/tony-blair-iraq-chilcot-inquiry

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« Reply #173 on: January 23, 2015, 04:44:16 AM »
No, no, YouTube basement tapes - this is where you should put your trust. Objective, well-researched, no crazy conspiracies or agendas; just facts, common sense, and unimpeachable integrity.

Also, it's not a movie/documentary; it's a book, written by his wife and fellow servicemen. Witnesses and shit, you know.
The Ugly, thanks for not responding with ad-hominem and offences... You have your opinion and i respect it, but i know what i know, no crazy conspiracies, just history, extremely "well-researched" true history after years and years, passing through mistakes and bullshits, history twisted by "winners" and the governing evil individuals who shaped our past, present and future... Patton was killed for the reasons i said, he was a true american patriot and hero, contrary to traitors and criminals like Eisenhower and Roosevelt for example...

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« Reply #174 on: January 23, 2015, 06:50:13 AM »

it makes zero difference how many people sadam may have killed, it takes nothing away from what the US and co has done there.  the bottom line is you attacked iraq on the false premise that they had weapons of mass destructions and posed a threat to you...that has been proven to be utter BS

so 1/2 milion + iraqis died , millions displaced, country fked beyond fked all as a result of a US lie and an illegal invasion. and i never sais "the US kills them just because". i'm pretty sure your government has it's reasons, but i don't believe the reasons they give publicly. it's also worth bearing in mind when talking about how evil a tyrant sadam was, that the US were his allies in the war against iran, there is even evidence that the US was complicit in his use of chemical weapons against iran.

"Iraq used mustard gas and sarin in early 1988 in four major offensives which helped bring about the end of the eight-year conflict. During the whole war, up to 20,000 Iranian troops were killed by mustard gas and nerve agents from Iraq and 100,000 were wounded. They were able to launch the strikes after being given maps, satellite pictures and other intelligence by the U.S.

The Americans have always said that Iraq did not reveal that they would launch chemical strikes. But documents released in the National Archives and interviews with former serviceman show that the U.S. acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons as they tried to help Saddam with the war"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402174/CIA-helped-Saddam-Hussein-make-chemical-weapons-attack-Iran-1988-Ronald-Reagan.html#ixzz3Pdojp1e0

so the gang rape of a 14yr old and murder of an entire family is not enough? you won't accept it's evil till you see a video of US soldiers throwing people off a bridge or shooting hundreds  ???  i'm pretty sure if you google it you can find several more atrocities. but tbh i don't think the soldiers are really the problem, they're just pawns in the game.

"A U.S. soldier was sentenced to 100 years in prison Thursday for the gang rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family last year."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17247852/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/gi-gets-years-raping-iraqi-girl-murders/#.VMItUEesX94


will that source do?

proves my point though, i'm sure you were well aware of the charlie hebdo case but had no idea about this or other incidents perpetrated on innocents by your own soldiers.

To speak on the lines of supporting Suddam we did, yes, like we also did Iran and Castro until they turned on us. Iran was more of a takeover but they still use all the stuff we have them in the 70's.

At this scale it's a international games of chess, that all counties have to play. Are all the moves right? At the time they might seem so. Do you know about all the right calls we have made? Of course not because everything went well. There was is a lot more that goes into these choices that you or me will ever know or fully understand. Here are simple truths: Without the U.S. innovations and world interactions the world wouldn't be anywhere close to where it is now, fiscally, socially and military for good and bad.

Here is something you don't know and I don't expect you to since you have never studied nor had the intel to know this but just the presence of the U.S. in the Middle East keeps Iran at bay. They would takeover and mine the Straits in a day... Then your looking at 70% of the world oil flow in control of Iran. That gas prices at 10.00 bucks a gallon and I world market that would become so wrecked there would be a a world depression but would you no that? No, you shouldnt because that's not something a consumer should no. But the big evil American capitals have been doing it for 40+ years.    



What's your point? People get raped by the 1000's each day in every part of the world. Do terrorist bust in to place in France and murder people every day. In sure multiple people got raped in France that same day. Are you upset they didn't report that?

The media reports on what people want to know about... A terrorist shotting out side of the Middle East  or a rap case... That mught sound harsh but that's life