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Title: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
Here are 15 reasons to date a single mom.

1. She’s no wimp. Single moms are tough and independent.

2. She’s already a great mom. (And weren’t you looking for someone who would be a great mother? Look no further!)

3. She’s incredibly patient, but doesn’t have a lot of tolerance for bad behavior. She’ll be good for you.

4. She doesn’t play games. She doesn’t have time to just fool around. She takes her relationships seriously.

5. She’ll only keep you around if the relationship is a good thing for both her and her kids. You won’t have to guess if she’s into you.

6. Single moms are easy to pamper. (They don’t get breaks very often. Hint, hint.)

7. She’s loyal — and is fiercely protective of her little brood.

8. She can articulate what she wants and needs from a relationship.

9. Single moms are both practical and fun. There’s no room for diva behavior.

10. She’s no longer a party girl, but a fun night out is still very welcome.

11. She’s selfless. Single moms put others’ needs before their own.

12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs.

13. You’ll get to take part in adventures to amusement parks, the zoo and the park. Bonus: You’ll have an excuse to play with toys.

14. She’s adaptable. She knows that life doesn’t always go as planned and has learned how to make the best of it.

15. Single moms can do it all, but are super-appreciative of a helping hand. Woo her with kindness and acts of service.

http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating-advice-for-you/15-reasons-to-date-a-single-mom/#.VDsOdRZ1AWs
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Costanza on March 21, 2015, 10:40:49 PM
Quickerblade will win Getbig Quote of the Year in this thread, I can feel it.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2015, 10:41:58 PM
The comments on that article are gold too

"What's next, 15 reasons to buy a used car that's been in an accident?"
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Costanza on March 21, 2015, 10:44:51 PM
The comments on that article are gold too

"What's next, 15 reasons to buy a used car that's been in an accident?"

Haha
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
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Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 22, 2015, 04:20:23 AM
Here are 15 reasons to date a single mom.

1. She’s no wimp. Single moms are tough and independent. Fuck that, "Your dad should be financially assisting me and you"

2. She’s already a great mom. (And weren’t you looking for someone who would be a great mother? Look no further!) great mom's treat the kids dad's respect. a single mom is pure evil, she damn well knows that kid needs a father but her stubborness ruined her childs life. a bargain hunter for life

3. She’s incredibly patient, but doesn’t have a lot of tolerance for bad behavior. She’ll be good for you. False, she is incredibly erratic and cost her child a father. she represents bad behavior and loneliness

4. She doesn’t play games. She doesn’t have time to just fool around. She takes her relationships seriously. Not seriously enough, she plays too many games.

5. She’ll only keep you around if the relationship is a good thing for both her and her kids. You won’t have to guess if she’s into you. this is not up to her, she is only a sexual object, no real man will give a fuck about her and her dirty ass kids

6. Single moms are easy to pamper. (They don’t get breaks very often. Hint, hint.) Mcdonalds, for that free WIFI

7. She’s loyal — and is fiercely protective of her little brood. the kid is a muppet

8. She can articulate what she wants and needs from a relationship. her needs are not realistic, she needs to look after her man better and not take dating tips from oprah

9. Single moms are both practical and fun. There’s no room for diva behavior. How bout her behavior??

10. She’s no longer a party girl, but a fun night out is still very welcome. Trust me she regrets that fucken kid, she wishes she was at the club and grinding and sniffing coke and sucking cock, not in that order. That kid fucked up her life.

11. She’s selfless. Single moms put others’ needs before their own. On what planet?? the most selfish person is a single mother.

12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs. She cant make shit. fuck her back rubs

13. You’ll get to take part in adventures to amusement parks, the zoo and the park. Bonus: You’ll have an excuse to play with toys. Anybody that partakes in this is a fucken loser, hell no would anyone take a single mom and her kid to the fucken zoo, fuck that, what a waste of a day

14. She’s adaptable. She knows that life doesn’t always go as planned and has learned how to make the best of it. More like shes doesn't go with the plan and she actually makes the worst of everything

15. Single moms can do it all, but are super-appreciative of a helping hand. Woo her with kindness and acts of service.what the fuck??? can do it all? what?? giving the kids a life without a father? this bitch needs to appreciate her partner, i will cum on her and spit on her, thats being kind.

http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating-advice-for-you/15-reasons-to-date-a-single-mom/#.VDsOdRZ1AWs
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Paragon on March 22, 2015, 05:27:25 AM
All bullshit! Dated a single mom for 3 years (my own fault). Most manipulative woman I ever encountered. Took selfishness and narcissism to a whole new level. Didn't give a shit about her kids and would find any activity to occupy them so she could stare at herself in the mirror for hours or spend hours at the gym. I am divorced with 2 kids of my own. I ended up taking care of mine and her 2 most of the time bc she was to busy not giving a shit about anything but herself.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 22, 2015, 05:39:49 AM
All bullshit! Dated a single mom for 3 years (my own fault). Most manipulative woman I ever encountered. Took selfishness and narcissism to a whole new level. Didn't give a shit about her kids and would find any activity to occupy them so she could stare at herself in the mirror for hours or spend hours at the gym. I am divorced with 2 kids of my own. I ended up taking care of mine and her 2 most of the time bc she was to busy not giving a shit about anything but herself.

But did she let you stretch the balloon knot on the regular? If so then the rest can be overlooked.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: da_vinci on March 22, 2015, 05:45:58 AM
I was plowing this young single mom once, watching the sun rise through the window while her 2year old was sleeping next to us

Fond memories.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Paragon on March 22, 2015, 05:55:00 AM
But did she let you stretch the balloon knot on the regular? If so then the rest can be overlooked.

Lol yes but if you only knew the rest
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 06:14:32 AM
Kids of single moms who fuck around, when grown up either hate women, or hate themselves if they are boys, and if they're girls they probably grow up to be grand hoes, hating men at the same time. Their most important role model, the mother, a slut.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: _aj_ on March 22, 2015, 06:16:36 AM
Jesus, those comics are brutal.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: The Italian Lifter on March 22, 2015, 06:28:31 AM


this by Quickerblade is the post of the year (listen to an old guy!)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: ritch on March 22, 2015, 07:04:31 AM
Ouff, so many flashes lately of all the single moms I dated last and part of this year. Too bad this thread was not made before all that wasted time. Still got sex out of it, so not all bad and neither were expensive, cost me more in gas money, lol, than actual gifts!

Every woman I've ever dated pretty much ends up in me or both of us really upset with the other. Perhaps my views will change when it gets warmer and women start dressing down but just am not seeing why it's worth the effort anymore when it always ends up so bad.

I know see most women as cute little objects who greatly alter their appearances and behaviors to fool us into marriage. ONce done, they let go and just become nothing like they were, what brought you to them. It's ok to change, but all the fun shit like random bj's are now over. Any relationship I've ever been in, after 1.5 years, no more bj's. I've called women out on that and oh man, did they hate it. Did not help my cause, but fuck it... It's all downhill after than initial magic is gone and that is usually 6-12ish months I'd say. Then they want big shit like paying a trip as a couple some place (gotta be kidding me if you think I will pay your part to that) and many start talking about getting rings and jewelery.

Bad idea. It's all back to square one eventually anyway's...
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Knooger on March 22, 2015, 07:09:22 AM
Every woman I've ever dated pretty much ends up in me or both of us really upset with the other.

Nice, so they either fuck you up the ass or you guys just get in a fight. That's some pretty hard core shit to admit to, even on Getbig. Fagget.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 07:18:58 AM
Any relationship I've ever been in, after 1.5 years, no more bj's. I've called women out on that and oh man, did they hate it. Did not help my cause, but fuck it... It's all downhill after than initial magic is gone and that is usually 6-12ish months I'd say.

Relationships are like magic shows, after seeing the same magician over and over again the wow effect is gone and the longer you stick around the more of your things will vanish.

Switch up the magician often and make them use their own money to demonstrate any vanishing effects.

Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Andy Griffin on March 22, 2015, 07:28:43 AM
Here are 15 reasons to date a single mom.

1. She’s no wimp. Single moms are tough and independent.

2. She’s already a great mom. (And weren’t you looking for someone who would be a great mother? Look no further!)

3. She’s incredibly patient, but doesn’t have a lot of tolerance for bad behavior. She’ll be good for you.

4. She doesn’t play games. She doesn’t have time to just fool around. She takes her relationships seriously.

5. She’ll only keep you around if the relationship is a good thing for both her and her kids. You won’t have to guess if she’s into you.

6. Single moms are easy to pamper. (They don’t get breaks very often. Hint, hint.)

7. She’s loyal — and is fiercely protective of her little brood.

8. She can articulate what she wants and needs from a relationship.

9. Single moms are both practical and fun. There’s no room for diva behavior.

10. She’s no longer a party girl, but a fun night out is still very welcome.

11. She’s selfless. Single moms put others’ needs before their own.

12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs.

13. You’ll get to take part in adventures to amusement parks, the zoo and the park. Bonus: You’ll have an excuse to play with toys.

14. She’s adaptable. She knows that life doesn’t always go as planned and has learned how to make the best of it.

15. Single moms can do it all, but are super-appreciative of a helping hand. Woo her with kindness and acts of service.

http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating-advice-for-you/15-reasons-to-date-a-single-mom/#.VDsOdRZ1AWs

obviously written by one or more of the following:

- desperate single mom
- pathetic white knight
- phag
- "girl power" shill 

Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 08:28:24 AM
obviously written by one or more of the following:

- desperate single mom
- pathetic white knight
- phag
- "girl power" shill 


or a dating site desperate for new fools
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Hulkotron on March 22, 2015, 08:38:08 AM
We must do something about the single moms.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Knooger on March 22, 2015, 08:44:48 AM
We must do something about the single moms.

We could get drunk and fuck them, then take a cab ride back home.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 08:47:46 AM
We must do something about the single moms.
hook them up with single dads
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: ritch on March 22, 2015, 08:55:40 AM
Nice, so they either fuck you up the ass or you guys just get in a fight. That's some pretty hard core shit to admit to, even on Getbig. Fagget.

NO.
What is totally gay is how you saw the gayness into what was a complete straight text.

Explain.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Knooger on March 22, 2015, 09:09:53 AM
NO.
What is totally gay is how you saw the gayness into what was a complete straight text.

Explain.

Sorry man, couldn't help myself when I saw the typo.  :D
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: hardgainerj on March 22, 2015, 09:12:30 AM
if you pursue moms youre a pos
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Knooger on March 22, 2015, 09:13:25 AM
if you pursue moms youre a pos

Why? Single moms need to get dicked just like normal females.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: ritch on March 22, 2015, 09:16:54 AM
Sorry man, couldn't help myself when I saw the typo.  :D

Heh, heh, would have done the same.
It's what we do and come here to do, the hell with straight up replies, lol...
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 09:18:06 AM
anyone ever have a situation whereas the single mom didnt reveal she is a mom until weeks or months after dating you?

wonder how that changes things lol

PS what is the balloon knot? I been gone for too long
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Knooger on March 22, 2015, 09:24:48 AM

PS what is the balloon knot? I been gone for too long

Get naked in your bathroom, stand with the mirror to your back. Now bend over and look at the mirror from between your legs. See that thing between your butt cheeks? That's your balloon knot. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: hardgainerj on March 22, 2015, 09:39:26 AM
Why? Single moms need to get dicked just like normal females.
because youre willing to front to her kids just for her pussy
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Knooger on March 22, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
because youre willing to front to her kids just for her pussy

Ain't talking about bringing her kids to the zoo, just taking her home from a bar and fucking her. No need to meet any children.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: MAXX on March 22, 2015, 10:03:49 AM
I would have an easier time coming up with 1000 reasons why not to date single moms
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2015, 11:11:16 AM
The comments on that article are gold too

"What's next, 15 reasons to buy a used car that's been in an accident?"

The chances of fixing the car are better than doing so with the woman.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: ritch on March 22, 2015, 11:27:57 AM
The chances of fixing the car are better than doing so with the woman.

So f'in funny and true, oh shit...
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Costanza on March 22, 2015, 02:37:17 PM
This is a Facebook post of a single mom in her mid 20s I know. Is 'broke as', but not too broke to cough up enough cab fare to mine to be pounded in the ass and in her words be 'all mine'...

Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 22, 2015, 02:46:46 PM
This is a Facebook post of a single mom in her mid 20s I know. Is 'broke as', but not too broke to cough up enough cab fare to mine to be pounded in the ass and in her words be 'all mine'...



hey valentine, don't catch feelings for her, just keep pounding to the sun comes up baby.
Single moms always think they are up to the task of raising a kid, one by one they fail.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 22, 2015, 02:52:43 PM
Love how single moms need to tell the world how good they are or how tough it is.
what happened to Brett sweetheart, why are you a single mom? 100/100 she will blame brett.

brett is smart, he knows you live once and he just bounced.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 02:53:03 PM
Here are 15 reasons to date a single mom.

1. She’s no wimp. Single moms are tough and independent.

2. She’s already a great mom. (And weren’t you looking for someone who would be a great mother? Look no further!)

3. She’s incredibly patient, but doesn’t have a lot of tolerance for bad behavior. She’ll be good for you.

4. She doesn’t play games. She doesn’t have time to just fool around. She takes her relationships seriously.

5. She’ll only keep you around if the relationship is a good thing for both her and her kids. You won’t have to guess if she’s into you.

6. Single moms are easy to pamper. (They don’t get breaks very often. Hint, hint.)

7. She’s loyal — and is fiercely protective of her little brood.

8. She can articulate what she wants and needs from a relationship.

9. Single moms are both practical and fun. There’s no room for diva behavior.

10. She’s no longer a party girl, but a fun night out is still very welcome.

11. She’s selfless. Single moms put others’ needs before their own.

12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs.

13. You’ll get to take part in adventures to amusement parks, the zoo and the park. Bonus: You’ll have an excuse to play with toys.

14. She’s adaptable. She knows that life doesn’t always go as planned and has learned how to make the best of it.

15. Single moms can do it all, but are super-appreciative of a helping hand. Woo her with kindness and acts of service.

http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating-advice-for-you/15-reasons-to-date-a-single-mom/#.VDsOdRZ1AWs

I'm sure many "single moms" are decent, loving woman for the right men.
For men who want to be dads, this could be a great situation.

I opted to date/marry those without kids and had decent jobs/careers.
BUT, that's just me and what do I know? ???
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
So f'in funny and true, oh shit...

The cartoon that is spot on is the one about the women being super picky when she's young, then, when she's over the hill and still single, complains about there being no good men around.

I'll bet everyone here knows women like that.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Costanza on March 22, 2015, 02:55:37 PM
hey valentine, don't catch feelings for her, just keep pounding to the sun comes up baby.
Single moms always think they are up to the task of raising a kid, one by one they fail.


Zero feelings for this one Valentine. She whinges about finding a decent guy, yet I have no doubt as soon as she leaves my place she's off round to the next potential 'daddy's' place to get pounded again.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 22, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
I'm sure many "single moms" are decent, loving woman for the right men.
For men who want to be dads, this could be a great situation.

I opted to date/marry those without kids and had decent jobs/careers.
BUT, that's just me and what do I know? ???

That's just you my friend, many single moms are false dreamers that believe Ryan Gosling will call her.
Why the fuck would i want to be a father of someone elses cumshot.

Howard you are all good. single moms deserve the death penalty
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 22, 2015, 02:58:47 PM
Zero feelings for this one Valentine. She whinges about finding a decent guy, yet I have no doubt as soon as she leaves my place she's off round to the next potential 'daddy's' place to get pounded again.

LOL what is decent to her? Bradley cooper? shes delusional, hope you keep pounding that ass, think of this thread next time you hit it.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2015, 03:04:49 PM

Why the fuck would i want to be a father of someone elses cumshot.


A fair question, indeed. ???
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Parker on March 22, 2015, 04:07:49 PM
This is a Facebook post of a single mom in her mid 20s I know. Is 'broke as', but not too broke to cough up enough cab fare to mine to be pounded in the ass and in her words be 'all mine'...


So, she has a disrespectful 2 yr old. She accepts the child's disrespectful behavior. So what does she expect? Granted, at two, children can be difficult. I wonder if she is the type to tell the child stop doing something 10 times in row in a pleading voice. And the child just ignores her. And I bet that there are no reprocussions to this type of behavior.
And of course, where is the father?
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Hulkotron on March 22, 2015, 04:13:31 PM
I bet she is the type to tell the child stop doing something 10 times in row in a pleading voice. And the child just ignores her. And I bet that there are no reprocussions to this type of behavior.
And of course, where is the father?

I see this a lot.  Parent(s) won't discipline the kid then wonder why he's an obnoxious little shit.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 22, 2015, 05:27:58 PM
I'll give you 99 reason why you don't need to date a single mom but only stay to the level of fucking her.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 22, 2015, 05:31:24 PM
why the fuck would you want to date a single mom.

The man is number 1, a single mom is twisted, she puts her dirty kid first,then her, then maybe you.

I find single mothers to be unhygienic and lack class.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: flinstones1 on March 22, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
I think a lot of you guys who sound bitter about single mothers have just dealt with a borderline chick and don't know it. . these women will fuck you up, if you've ever dated a chick with any of the below chances are she was a borderline. I have composed a  safety guide for you fellas

- Abusive parents (usually the mother )
- father killed himself or abandoned her at an early age
- Lots of tattoos and piercings, usually she likes pain
- cuts herself
- borderlines usually always have some sort of weird  physical health issue too from the constant stress/cortisol in the body
- says every ex boyfriend was abusive and an asshole (the breakup was never her fault)
- social butterfly
- seems like the most perfect girl you ever met in the beginning of the relationship.  you'll literally feel like you've met the girl of your dreams, ride in on a white cape and come out with a knife in your back ;D
- Dr Jeckyll/hide personality, especially when she drinks
-  Only sees things in black or white, she   hates you one minute, loves you the next minute. the only time they initiate sex is after they've pushed you away and have killed the mood for you.
- every time you question her craziness she Tries to convince you there is something wrong with you, and starts to makes you think your crazy. Before you know it you really believe your crazy
- afraid of the dark... believes in ghosts/ sees things
- keeps gifts  from ex boyfriends  (usually keeps them as trophies)
- Bored extremely easily, no hobbies...she quits everything she starts, lots  of quitting  jobs,  fall out relationships with friends and family
- Master deceiver/liar, she lies so easily it doesn't even seem like she's lying
-talks to herself, always singing has some kind of music running through her head
- baby fever, tries to rush you into marriage/moving in together too soon.  She probably told  you she loves you within a month of knowing you
 

They're usually freaky in bed and hot as fuck. They also date down because they need a guy they can control  and  manipulate, so odds are if you date a borderline she's the hottest chick you'll ever get.  ;)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 22, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
why the fuck would you want to date a single mom.

The man is number 1, a single mom is twisted, she puts her dirty kid first,then her, then maybe you.

I find single mothers to be unhygienic and lack class.

There is no way in hell I'm raising or paying for some irresponsible whore's fuck trophy.

You and your ex had the kid.....you and your ex raise the kid.

If she wants me to stop by for a booty call cream pie after the kid is asleep, then she better text early and get in line.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 05:59:35 PM
There is no way in hell I'm raising or paying for some irresponsible whore's fuck trophy.

You and your ex had the kid.....you and your ex raise the kid.

If she wants me to stop by for a booty call cream pie after the kid is asleep, then she better text early and get in line.

That's the attitude !  Good post.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
Get naked in your bathroom, stand with the mirror to your back. Now bend over and look at the mirror from between your legs. See that thing between your butt cheeks? That's your balloon knot. Hope this helps.

I prefer the nickname  "starfish" ,  but enjoyed your "balloon knot" visual imagery. :D
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:09:42 PM
That's just you my friend, many single moms are false dreamers that believe Ryan Gosling will call her.
Why the fuck would i want to be a father of someone elses cumshot.

Howard you are all good. single moms deserve the death penalty

Thanks and I never got too involved with any "single moms".
In all modesty I was lucky enough to hook up with a few MILF's in my younger days.

My wife often reminds her younger, single female friends, about single mom reality.
She tells them , if they get married and have a kid, there is a 50% chance you'll end up as a "single mom".

Most get this horrified look hearing her say THAT.
They have this dopey image of marrying Ward Clever and raising little Wally and the Beaver in LaLa land.

Obviously, plenty of men and woman want to be parents for the right reasons.
For those who don't, we have modern birth control methods and 1st tri abortions.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 22, 2015, 06:10:24 PM
That's the attitude !  Good post.

This is the 2nd good post of your Getbig career.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Here are 15 reasons to date a single mom.

1. She’s no wimp. Single moms are tough and independent.
2. She’s already a great mom. (And weren’t you looking for someone who would be a great mother? Look no further!)
3. She’s incredibly patient, but doesn’t have a lot of tolerance for bad behavior. She’ll be good for you.
4. She doesn’t play games. She doesn’t have time to just fool around. She takes her relationships seriously.
5. She’ll only keep you around if the relationship is a good thing for both her and her kids. You won’t have to guess if she’s into you.
6. Single moms are easy to pamper. (They don’t get breaks very often. Hint, hint.)
7. She’s loyal — and is fiercely protective of her little brood.
8. She can articulate what she wants and needs from a relationship.
9. Single moms are both practical and fun. There’s no room for diva behavior.
10. She’s no longer a party girl, but a fun night out is still very welcome.
11. She’s selfless. Single moms put others’ needs before their own.
12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs.
13. You’ll get to take part in adventures to amusement parks, the zoo and the park. Bonus: You’ll have an excuse to play with toys.
14. She’s adaptable. She knows that life doesn’t always go as planned and has learned how to make the best of it.
15. Single moms can do it all, but are super-appreciative of a helping hand. Woo her with kindness and acts of service.

This is soooo not true it ain't even funny. I understand eharmony and all these dating websites need to get rid of the stale produce, or at least move it around on the shelves, but resorting to blanket statements to do that is really questionable.

I've met single moms who are great and others who are only looking for a bill-paying/booty-calling/baby-daddy.

It's hard for them to go out there and find other guys because, for us guys, a single mom represents everything we do not want in a woman.

Also, when you go out with a single mom, you have to realize you are with a mom, not a wife. And she most likely WILL NEVER become a wife.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:22:46 PM
This is the 2nd good post of your Getbig career.
:D :D :D

I wonder how many guys play daddy, and deal with being serious with a single mom, mostly  for the pussy, but won't admit it?
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 22, 2015, 06:24:42 PM
I think a lot of you guys who sound bitter about single mothers have just dealt with a borderline chick and don't know it. . these women will fuck you up, if you've ever dated a chick with any of the below chances are she was a borderline. I have composed a  safety guide for you fellas

- Abusive parents (usually the mother )
- father killed himself or abandoned her at an early age
- Lots of tattoos and piercings, usually she likes pain
- cuts herself
- borderlines usually always have some sort of weird  physical health issue too from the constant stress/cortisol in the body
- says every ex boyfriend was abusive and an asshole (the breakup was never her fault)
- social butterfly
- seems like the most perfect girl you ever met in the beginning of the relationship.  you'll literally feel like you've met the girl of your dreams, ride in on a white cape and come out with a knife in your back ;D
- Dr Jeckyll/hide personality, especially when she drinks
-  Only sees things in black or white, she   hates you one minute, loves you the next minute. the only time they initiate sex is after they've pushed you away and have killed the mood for you.
- every time you question her craziness she Tries to convince you there is something wrong with you, and starts to makes you think your crazy. Before you know it you really believe your crazy
- afraid of the dark... believes in ghosts/ sees things
- keeps gifts  from ex boyfriends  (usually keeps them as trophies)
- Bored extremely easily, no hobbies...she quits everything she starts, lots  of quitting  jobs,  fall out relationships with friends and family
- Master deceiver/liar, she lies so easily it doesn't even seem like she's lying
-talks to herself, always singing has some kind of music running through her head
- baby fever, tries to rush you into marriage/moving in together too soon.  She probably told  you she loves you within a month of knowing you
 

They're usually freaky in bed and hot as fuck. They also date down because they need a guy they can control  and  manipulate, so odds are if you date a borderline she's the hottest chick you'll ever get.  ;)
One time I had girl a bit like that and dumped her as soon as possible. So at first she talked about her ex and I told her to stop and she did. Then she started to talk about her alcoholic father  and I knew it's an attempt to make me have pity for her but in the same time I saw it like " Get ready, I'm justifying all the bullshit/ troubles I'll do in the future. Now you now I have an alcoholic father so I'm excused for behaving, in the future, like shit".

 It's exactly what happened, the girl started to change from the sweet little girl that everyone is not treating well to a lunatic. Finally, she said she will suicide and I said do it if you want to do it and I left. After that she tried to show me how she was right about me not loving her. hahaha fucking crazy girl.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
:D :D :D

I wonder how many guys play daddy, and deal with being serious with a single mom, mostly  for the pussy, but won't admit it?

Well, that's the thing with single moms: Their handicap is having a kid, or kids, so they have to overcompensate by fucking the living lights out of you until you fall in the trap. At which point they will go back to the once a week routine just as any other ho. Too late though: Now you have two more mouths to feed.

No pussy's worth that much money.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:25:36 PM
This is soooo not true it ain't even funny. I understand eharmony and all these dating websites need to get rid of the stale produce, or at least move it around on the shelves, but resorting to blanket statements to do that is really questionable.

I've met single moms who are great and others who are only looking for a bill-paying/booty-calling/baby-daddy.

It's hard for them to go out there and find other guys because, for us guys, a single mom represents everything we do not want in a woman.

Also, when you go out with a single mom, you have to realize you are with a mom, not a wife. And she most likely WILL NEVER become a wife.

I decided long ago, I'd rather live alone that get serious with a woman that had young kids at home. 100% serious.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 22, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
Only a pedo would like to date/marry a single mom.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
One time I had girl a bit like that and dumped her as soon as possible. So at first she talked about her ex and I told her to stop and she did. Then she started to talk about her alcoholic father  and I knew it's an attempt to make me have pity for her but in the same time I saw it like " Get ready, I'm justifying all the bullshit/ troubles I'll do in the future. Now you now I have an alcoholic father so I'm excused for behaving, in the future, like shit".

 It's exactly what happened, the girl started to change from the sweet little girl that everyone is not treating her well to a lunatic. Finally, she said she will suicide and I said do it if you want to do it and I left. After that she tried to show me how she was true about me not loving her. hahaha fucking crazy girl.
I'd never go past a couple booty calls ONLY with a MILF with youngums at home.

A woman without a decent career after age 30, is trouble.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2015, 06:28:52 PM

I decided long ago, I'd rather live alone that get serious with a woman that had young kids at home. 100% serious.

I'm pretty sure most guys have no idea what they're getting themselves into.

And it's sad that it's usually the kid(s) who have to suffer from the vicious circle.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
I'm pretty sure most guys have no idea what they're getting themselves into.

And it's sad that it's usually the kid(s) who have to suffer from the vicious circle.

How can he not know?!!! 

100% right, no pussy is worth that hell of a lifestyle.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2015, 06:32:11 PM
I think it's safe to say that single moms are not the revenue generators for eharmony.com.

Hey, if 10 pictures of you showing your oversized post-brest feeding bazookas don't do the trick...
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:34:27 PM
I think it's safe to say that single moms are not the revenue generators for eharmony.com.

Hey, if 10 pictures of you showing your oversized post-brest feeding bazookas don't do the trick...

BMC and I want to see their bulked up MILF glutes !
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2015, 06:35:59 PM
How can he not know?!!! 

100% right, no pussy is worth that hell of a lifestyle.

It isn't.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 06:36:50 PM
Here are 15 reasons to date a single mom.

1. She’s no wimp. Single moms are tough and independent.

2. She’s already a great mom. (And weren’t you looking for someone who would be a great mother? Look no further!)

3. She’s incredibly patient, but doesn’t have a lot of tolerance for bad behavior. She’ll be good for you.

4. She doesn’t play games. She doesn’t have time to just fool around. She takes her relationships seriously.

5. She’ll only keep you around if the relationship is a good thing for both her and her kids. You won’t have to guess if she’s into you.

6. Single moms are easy to pamper. (They don’t get breaks very often. Hint, hint.)

7. She’s loyal — and is fiercely protective of her little brood.

8. She can articulate what she wants and needs from a relationship.

9. Single moms are both practical and fun. There’s no room for diva behavior.

10. She’s no longer a party girl, but a fun night out is still very welcome.

11. She’s selfless. Single moms put others’ needs before their own.

12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs.

13. You’ll get to take part in adventures to amusement parks, the zoo and the park. Bonus: You’ll have an excuse to play with toys.

14. She’s adaptable. She knows that life doesn’t always go as planned and has learned how to make the best of it.

15. Single moms can do it all, but are super-appreciative of a helping hand. Woo her with kindness and acts of service.

16  Desperate sluts let go raw anal balls deep and can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.*
http://www.eharmony.come/dating-advice/dating-advice-for-you/15-reasons-to-date-a-single-mom/#.VDsOdRZ1AWs

fixed - 16 for the members of BOTH getbig and ehomo.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 22, 2015, 06:37:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XtmNr7O.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zGMbrs0xL3I/VQlk2zJvCHI/AAAAAAAAAOY/KNadOmzaMCY/s1600/cartoon22.jpg)

(http://i.4cdn.org/r9k/1426714504724.jpg)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: calfzilla on March 22, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
Awesome comics.  :)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 22, 2015, 06:42:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XtmNr7O.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zGMbrs0xL3I/VQlk2zJvCHI/AAAAAAAAAOY/KNadOmzaMCY/s1600/cartoon22.jpg)

(http://i.4cdn.org/r9k/1426714504724.jpg)
Give me the link to these cartoons you post. These cartoons are like something not to see if you aren't mentally strong.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 22, 2015, 06:50:19 PM
Give me the link to these cartoons you post. These cartoons are like something not to see if you aren't mentally strong.

From sluthate, a site with less moderation and more fuckups than Getbig, made for someone like uncle junior.Completely red pilled site, if you can't handle the comics then I wouldn't go there.Has more brutal honesty than even Getbig.

http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69977
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 22, 2015, 06:53:48 PM
From sluthate, a site with less moderation and more fuckups than Getbig, made for someone like uncle junior.Completely red pilled site, if you can't handle the comics then I wouldn't go there.Has more brutal honesty than even Getbig.

http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69977
It's as brutal as videos of ISIS beheading journalists.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
anal sex and grapefruit buggery are the only getbig approved forms of guaranteed  "kid free" sex.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 22, 2015, 08:53:00 PM
anyone ever have a situation whereas the single mom didnt reveal she is a mom until weeks or months after dating you?

wonder how that changes things lol

PS what is the balloon knot? I been gone for too long

I did.

It was a deal breaker right there. Within 10 minutes I was telling her to have a nice life.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 22, 2015, 10:24:17 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2N_OpJPsnLw/VQ-b6QZYYgI/AAAAAAAAAOs/RXioc2bH1Dk/s1600/cartoon23.jpg)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 22, 2015, 11:26:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/K5t6rt3.png)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: flinstones1 on March 23, 2015, 12:06:29 AM
LOL some of you guys crack me up. If a really fine ass  single mom in her twenties comes along you need to  fucking date her.

Turning down easy pussy just because HEAVEN FORBID,  you just might have  to buy little johnny a $2  ice-cream cone on the weekends. ;D

Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 23, 2015, 12:15:16 AM
LOL some of you guys crack me up. If a really fine ass  single mom in her twenties comes along you need to  fucking date her.

Turning down easy pussy just because HEAVEN FORBID,  you just might have  to buy little johnny a $2  ice-cream cone on the weekends. ;D



No one is turning away anything my man, I urge you do NOT date a single mom, unless your a pedo and looking to fondle the kid.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: flinstones1 on March 23, 2015, 12:37:56 AM
No one is turning away anything my man, I urge you do NOT date a single mom, unless your a pedo and looking to fondle the kid.

I dated a single mom, trust me I was  more bitter about it  than  you are. I would refuse to let  her take pictures of me with the kid in it, used to bite my tongue if she even asked me to buy the kid a bag of chips at subway.  But all it took was a few weeks of dating a woman  without kids to get  quickly reminded of the bullshit that comes with dating a chick in her twenties with lots of freedom. With that single mom she was at home reading thomas the train books  texting me while I was out at the club with my boys. Shed have dinner waiting for me, this was on a friday and saturday night.  A normal girl is gonna be out at the bar or club  with her five  girlfriends  grinding on some random guys dick. She can go out get trashed and  wasted cause she can sleep till noon the next day, that single mom had to be up bright and early at 8 am for  cartoons!
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 23, 2015, 12:41:47 AM
12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs. "She cant make shit. fuck her back rubs"

 ;D
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Army of One on March 23, 2015, 01:07:44 AM
12. Moms make the best lasagna and give the best back rubs. "She cant make shit. fuck her back rubs"

 ;D

Who cares these days when ready meals taste so good anyway, also a machine can be bought that rubs your back.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 01:13:32 AM
I dated a single mom, trust me I was  more bitter about it  than  you are. I would refuse to let  her take pictures of me with the kid in it, used to bite my tongue if she even asked me to buy the kid a bag of chips at subway.  But all it took was a few weeks of dating a woman  without kids to get  quickly reminded of the bullshit that comes with dating a chick in her twenties with lots of freedom. With that single mom she was at home reading thomas the train books  texting me while I was out at the club with my boys. Shed have dinner waiting for me, this was on a friday and saturday night.  A normal girl is gonna be out at the bar or club  with her five  girlfriends  grinding on some random guys dick. She can go out get trashed and  wasted cause she can sleep till noon the next day, that single mom had to be up bright and early at 8 am for  cartoons!

that was a short horror story, got me chills  :o
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 01:32:58 AM
I dated a single mom, trust me I was  more bitter about it  than  you are. I would refuse to let  her take pictures of me with the kid in it, used to bite my tongue if she even asked me to buy the kid a bag of chips at subway.  But all it took was a few weeks of dating a woman  without kids to get  quickly reminded of the bullshit that comes with dating a chick in her twenties with lots of freedom. With that single mom she was at home reading thomas the train books  texting me while I was out at the club with my boys. Shed have dinner waiting for me, this was on a friday and saturday night.  A normal girl is gonna be out at the bar or club  with her five  girlfriends  grinding on some random guys dick. She can go out get trashed and  wasted cause she can sleep till noon the next day, that single mom had to be up bright and early at 8 am for  cartoons!

So the reason you have for dating a single mom is because the girls that dont have kids leave you at home and go grind on random dicks?

If yu are a single guy with no kids you should stay clear of single moms, all the excuses as tto why they are good are BS. You deserve all the hell that comes with dating them and I look reading the stories of how they destroyed you. The destruction they rain on men cannot possibly be done by women with no kids.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 23, 2015, 01:50:33 AM
Liberal Pinko Social programs take the father out of the equation, and now we have to hear ridiculous rationalizations a for why single moms are so great.

No one is buying that crap.

Single moms are what produced those ghetto rats that beat up the girl in the McDonalds.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: MAXX on March 23, 2015, 01:11:11 PM
one plus is they wont complain my dick is too big
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 23, 2015, 01:18:25 PM
Getbig is great. I'm sure getbiggers are responsible for like 770 singles moms ( only howard has 8, wiggs is black so at least 3 for him)  out there due to not pulling out then they come here and bash them.  ;D
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: _aj_ on March 23, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
This is soooo not true it ain't even funny. I understand eharmony and all these dating websites need to get rid of the stale produce, or at least move it around on the shelves, but resorting to blanket statements to do that is really questionable.

I LMAO'd. I am a bad man.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: _aj_ on March 23, 2015, 02:17:15 PM
From sluthate, a site with less moderation and more fuckups than Getbig, made for someone like uncle junior.Completely red pilled site, if you can't handle the comics then I wouldn't go there.Has more brutal honesty than even Getbig.

http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69977

Damn, this is a quality site right here. BRB.

It's like a whole site filled with Flintstones clones. Angry and bitter.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Fortress on March 23, 2015, 02:36:32 PM
In no way am I an asshole, but there is NO WAY I will EVER raise another man's child.

This is THE ultimate beta move for any man.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: bigmauri on March 23, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
My mother brought me up as a single mom the best she could. We didn't have much but it didn't matter.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Overload on March 23, 2015, 02:42:53 PM
They can be amazing in bed, they have a lot to prove and can cook.  If you're a succussful guy with a little charm they will be washing your balls for you.

That's about all they are good for.

Oh and the majority of them like angry anal sex, if you're into that sort of thing...

Don't meet the kid!  Just don't do it.  Let the whore wallow in her own misery alone.  NEVER ask about the kid and if they bring it up, change the subject.

Never let them stay the night, make them go home to their seed, don't give them the luxury of being away from the demon child they created.  They will do anything for a night away from the spawn, don't let them have it unless they have earned it.

Finally, don't add them on FB.  Pretend like they don't exist, don't let them meet your friends, etc.

Go forth and bang as many as you can, they want cock so bad they will most likely fuck on the first date.

Easy pussy brothers, pump'em and dump'em.  They are used to it anyway.


8)
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Quickerblade on March 23, 2015, 02:50:03 PM
In no way am I an asshole, but there is NO WAY I will EVER raise another man's child.

This is THE ultimate beta move for any man.

Please do not use that word again.
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: greeneyes on March 23, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
Damn, this is a quality site right here. BRB.

It's like a whole site filled with Flintstones clones. Angry and bitter.
Comics are great but other parts of the board are for effeminate guys. There's a sub-board called rate me. wtf ..
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 23, 2015, 04:18:15 PM
My mother brought me up as a single mom the best she could. We didn't have much but it didn't matter.

Fuck off gimmick
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 23, 2015, 04:22:38 PM
They can be amazing in bed, they have a lot to prove and can cook.  If you're a succussful guy with a little charm they will be washing your balls for you.

That's about all they are good for.

Oh and the majority of them like angry anal sex, if you're into that sort of thing...

Don't meet the kid!  Just don't do it.  Let the whore wallow in her own misery alone.  NEVER ask about the kid and if they bring it up, change the subject.

Never let them stay the night, make them go home to their seed, don't give them the luxury of being away from the demon child they created.  They will do anything for a night away from the spawn, don't let them have it unless they have earned it.

Finally, don't add them on FB.  Pretend like they don't exist, don't let them meet your friends, etc.

Go forth and bang as many as you can, they want cock so bad they will most likely fuck on the first date.

Easy pussy brothers, pump'em and dump'em.  They are used to it anyway.


8)

Solid advice, all the way around. I've been with the same woman for two years and have never thought about her washing my balls.

How do you broach that subject? I don't think, "Hey, honey, these balls won't wash themselves" would go over too well. :(
Title: Re: 15 reasons to date a single mom
Post by: flinstones1 on March 24, 2015, 01:47:38 AM
So the reason you have for dating a single mom is because the girls that dont have kids leave you at home and go grind on random dicks?

If yu are a single guy with no kids you should stay clear of single moms, all the excuses as tto why they are good are BS. You deserve all the hell that comes with dating them and I look reading the stories of how they destroyed you. The destruction they rain on men cannot possibly be done by women with no kids.
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Based on the bold, I'd   bet my left nut the single mom you dated had BPD. IF she didn't and you still got caught up in her drama you better have a good excuse

Women with BPD make you feel alive, like you work at mcdonalds for the rest of your life and still be "ok" as long as you have each other.  She'll slowly make her your entire life and push you away from your friends and family, your hobbies and interests. Then boom out of nowhere the switch flips and she becomes a different person. You  try desperately hard to get the girl back you fell in love with, bending over backwards for her and even putting up with her snot nosed child. At this point your a full on fucking beta and she probably has  lost all attraction to you, she's either gonna cheat on you or dump you.

Then your sitting there with your dick in your hand going WHAT THE FUCK, you'll be fucked up for a while but its important to realize that single mom you fell in love with was just an optical illusion and her walking out of your life was a blessing in disguise.  Once you get over it (if you ever get over it and I say if because a lot of guys don't get over a true borderline)  dating normal women will be a piece of cake for you. :) This is how you become an alpha male, and get college educated women making 100k a year wanting to meet your family after the second date because your the most amazing fucking thing that ever happened to them. I consider myself a pretty strong individual though, I went out and got out there. A couple guys in this thread obviously  aren't over theirs