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Title: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 27, 2015, 06:14:08 AM
Radu last september and today..
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Marty Champions on March 27, 2015, 06:15:20 AM
All ragu sauce and time dilation coat hanger like thickness
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on March 27, 2015, 06:16:37 AM
good gains, but need more pec mass in that pose.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on March 27, 2015, 06:18:31 AM
Radu last september and today..

amazing 5 month hair progress  ;D
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: booty on March 27, 2015, 06:18:48 AM
good gains, but need more pec mass in that pose.
Agreed. His pecs are lagging behind the rest of his development/ progress.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Army of One on March 27, 2015, 06:22:01 AM
You were a moron for not putting him on finestaride/propecia
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: SuperTed on March 27, 2015, 06:25:57 AM
Looks good. Clearly put on a decent amount of muscle. What's his weight difference in the two pics?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 27, 2015, 06:28:02 AM
Looks good. Clearly put on a decent amount of muscle. What's his weight difference in the two pics?
decent amount?  ;D

He is 186lbs left and 225lbs right with almost same bodyfat and some extra water
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Man of Steel on March 27, 2015, 06:30:14 AM
Ton of growth.

Looks like the machinist in before pic.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: liberty on March 27, 2015, 06:31:45 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: SuperTed on March 27, 2015, 06:37:43 AM
decent amount?  ;D

He is 186lbs left and 225lbs right with almost same bodyfat and some extra water

Good stuff.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: devilsmile on March 27, 2015, 06:43:35 AM
I know everything is piss easy with steroids, compared to all natural.

But, doesn't he have knee injuries that stops him from doing squats and leg presses?

How does he train for his leg development?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Powerlift66 on March 27, 2015, 06:55:23 AM
Whats his "supplement" stack ?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 27, 2015, 07:10:59 AM
Dosent really get it...

A starving twink on diet quit cardio, start teso, eat more...whast the deal?

Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: trapz101 on March 27, 2015, 07:26:14 AM
hairline improved..great job
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: TheShape. on March 27, 2015, 08:06:09 AM
Bodybuidling isn't for everyone.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: ritch on March 27, 2015, 08:59:10 AM
Nice change, was so overdieted down in the first though, but good change!
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: SquatsRule on March 27, 2015, 09:31:39 AM
Doesn't look 225 to me. Good progress though.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Nails on March 27, 2015, 09:34:48 AM
How much rich piana did u inject in his biceps?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Howard on March 27, 2015, 09:37:36 AM
Doesn't look 225 to me. Good progress though.
Depends on his ht, but I thought he was 25-30 lbs lighter then the posted 225 in the new heavy pic
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Sokolsky on March 27, 2015, 09:40:28 AM
decent amount?  ;D

He is 186lbs left and 225lbs right with almost same bodyfat and some extra water

Certainly doesn't look to be at the same %, nor near the weight posted.

Perhaps post a pic with normal lighting?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: bigmc on March 27, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
looks great sev

is disgusted still helping out
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 27, 2015, 12:21:10 PM
I guess I'm in the minority thinking he looks better in the before picture. His face looks fat and he does look bigger but out of shape in the after picture.  When he leans out from that condition I wouldn't doubt he will look again like the before picture.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: SquatsRule on March 27, 2015, 01:12:02 PM
Depends on his ht, but I thought he was 25-30 lbs lighter then the posted 225 in the new heavy pic

I doubt he's that tall. If he's really 225, he's holding a ton of water. He does look really puffy.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: mazrim on March 27, 2015, 02:31:26 PM
I guess I'm in the minority thinking he looks better in the before picture. His face looks fat and he does look bigger but out of shape in the after picture.  When he leans out from that condition I wouldn't doubt he will look again like the before picture.
I agree for the most part. Doesn't look like he put on a lot of muscular size for that leap in bodyweight.
Just not a fan of the before pic either.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 27, 2015, 02:55:46 PM
I hope some of you are just taking the piss..  :-\
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: mazrim on March 27, 2015, 03:10:37 PM
I hope some of you are just taking the piss..  :-\
I'm not saying its bad progress either just a bit hard to tell at this stage comparing someone from a show to 5 months later. There is going to automatically be an increase in everything. Lighting is much different as well.
I guess usually when someone posts threads like this I expect to see dramatic results. There are results for sure, just not amazing results if that was what you are looking for. Kind of hard to explain.
Five months is not a long time coming from a show to gain impressively, imo, unless dramatically increasing aas, etc.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Eric2 on March 27, 2015, 03:20:50 PM
What's the end goal here? Not a change for the better. Yes he was skinny in the bfore. Now he is a heavier bloated mess. Pretty sure the ladies would prefer the skinny version.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Rudee on March 27, 2015, 03:33:29 PM
He doesn't look 225 in that second pic.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 27, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
To those who comment on his lack of pecs or legs or whatever. And basically no one else will ever say this: no one ever changes their proportions. It never happens in someone who hasn't totally neglected some part of their body in training.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 27, 2015, 05:12:38 PM
Regression on the haircut
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 27, 2015, 11:45:36 PM
To those who comment on his lack of pecs or legs or whatever. And basically no one else will ever say this: no one ever changes their proportions. It never happens in someone who hasn't totally neglected some part of their body in training.
finally some common sense. What do you think? Guy is 11 months into bodybuilding and gearing..his progress is astoundng to me.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Mobil on March 28, 2015, 12:03:17 AM
pointy biceps in after pic
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DanM on March 28, 2015, 12:09:58 AM
finally some common sense. What do you think? Guy is 11 months into bodybuilding and gearing..his progress is astoundng to me.

The guy is less than a year into bodybuilding, is taking steroids and him making good progress is astounding to you? Really?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 28, 2015, 02:38:59 AM
finally some common sense. What do you think? Guy is 11 months into bodybuilding and gearing..his progress is astoundng to me.

Looks like good progress. Of course the real test is when he diets down again to the same level of bodyfat. Just got to keep it up and not lose interest. It takes some time. 8)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on March 28, 2015, 02:48:22 AM
come on that's a cop out for not improving weak areas, the genetic shape of the muscle wont change but it can surely get bigger.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 28, 2015, 03:09:46 AM
come on that's a cop out for not improving weak areas, the genetic shape of the muscle wont change but it can surely get bigger.

It never happens bro, not if you're not a complete beginner. Improving weak areas, like Dennis Wolf improving his lower lats, never going to happen. :D

No one wants to admit this to themselves, they think they are like artists sculpting their physique like they want it, but it's not happening. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it. I'll give you an example. Milos, all that knowledge on how to train different bodyparts, couldn't make anything happen with his arms. Fucked them up with oil instead. George Farah recently giving advice on how to train arms recently on IG and FB. What did he himself do? Shot em up with oil just like all the others.

Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.
Warren - will always be quad dominant.
Dexter - always will have poor calves, except the years when he had them shot up with oil
Ronnie - always had poor calves except when shooting them up with oil
Flex - calves wrecked with oil
Arnold - couldn't do shit with his back and never did a rear lat spread
Dorian - always slightly undersized arms

And on and on...

Improving weak areas  - a joke  :D
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 28, 2015, 03:38:30 AM
^^
100% in the money
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on March 28, 2015, 03:47:52 AM
It never happens bro, not if you're not a complete beginner. Improving weak areas, like Dennis Wolf improving his lower lats, never going to happen. :D

No one wants to admit this to themselves, they think they are like artists sculpting their physique like they want it, but it's not happening. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it. I'll give you an example. Milos, all that knowledge on how to train different bodyparts, couldn't make anything happen with his arms. Fucked them up with oil instead. George Farah recently giving advice on how to train arms recently on IG and FB. What did he himself do? Shot em up with oil just like all the others.

Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.
Warren - will always be quad dominant.
Dexter - always will have poor calves, except the years when he had them shot up with oil
Ronnie - always had poor calves except when shooting them up with oil
Flex - calves wrecked with oil
Arnold - couldn't do shit with his back and never did a rear lat spread
Dorian - always slightly undersized arms

And on and on...

Improving weak areas  - a joke  :D

Look at Flex Lewis upper body when he was younger compared to his legs, now look at it.  Dennis Wolf's back has improved a lot even though he cant change the genetic shape. Radu might not improve his chest to a strong point but it can still improve. You still haven't convinced me.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: che on March 28, 2015, 06:26:17 AM
. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it.


Improving weak areas  - a joke  :D
::)
Complete nonsense
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 28, 2015, 06:43:19 AM
It never happens bro, not if you're not a complete beginner. Improving weak areas, like Dennis Wolf improving his lower lats, never going to happen. :D

No one wants to admit this to themselves, they think they are like artists sculpting their physique like they want it, but it's not happening. You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it. I'll give you an example. Milos, all that knowledge on how to train different bodyparts, couldn't make anything happen with his arms. Fucked them up with oil instead. George Farah recently giving advice on how to train arms recently on IG and FB. What did he himself do? Shot em up with oil just like all the others.

Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.
Warren - will always be quad dominant.
Dexter - always will have poor calves, except the years when he had them shot up with oil
Ronnie - always had poor calves except when shooting them up with oil
Flex - calves wrecked with oil
Arnold - couldn't do shit with his back and never did a rear lat spread
Dorian - always slightly undersized arms

(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pro-news/42435d1101740632-arnold-rear-lat-spread-o71-.jpg)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=332649&d=1158076505)

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=270973&d=1137928374)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 28, 2015, 03:10:35 PM
::)
Complete nonsense

You are welcome to show examples.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 28, 2015, 03:13:27 PM
;)


I like to buy 1 for our 'hypertrophy' jerk  ;)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: epcfitness on March 28, 2015, 03:32:02 PM
From that first picture I would have put him on 300mg tren, 1.5g eq, 700mg mast, 500mg prop. Possibly some anadrol as well. He put on size though but those compounds would have done the same with a much better look
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 28, 2015, 04:03:01 PM
You are welcome to show examples.

Che is just trolling, like always
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 28, 2015, 05:45:05 PM
Che is just trolling, like always

I don't know about that. Some of these guys, especially the ones who are more of the small and "aesthetic" type think of themselves as sculptors, when all it is is genetics.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: ruth_e_ford on March 28, 2015, 05:51:58 PM
Radu last september and today..

Kinda how I look now but I am little bit bigger and fatter I got better shoulders and chest.

Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: che on March 28, 2015, 08:29:02 PM
You are welcome to show examples.
I'm not trolling  ,  I am speaking from my own personal experience,  having really weak calves that my friends used to make fun of .

You say that you can't improve  weak points , ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it''

How about Arnold from a weak chest to arguably the best chest in bodybuilding history.

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?

(http://www.realmuscleforum.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_BodyBuilding_16years.jpg)(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0-ys1bvpskLtCWX6B6qkZz0KvmxFGfST5THQR-x3wb8uw6JBGpQ)


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v_YBbW432Po/URJxPLhgd7I/AAAAAAAAABY/vtY70RgJVLg/s1600/arnold_schwarzenegger_childhood_pictures++%7B1007%7D.jpg)(http://www.xplosivegrowth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-11.jpg)


There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: greeneyes on March 28, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
I'm not trolling  ,  I am speaking from my own personal experience,  having really weak calves that my friends used to make fun of .

You say that you can't improve  weak points , ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it''

How about Arnold from a weak chest to arguably the best chest in bodybuilding history.

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?

(http://www.realmuscleforum.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_BodyBuilding_16years.jpg)(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0-ys1bvpskLtCWX6B6qkZz0KvmxFGfST5THQR-x3wb8uw6JBGpQ)


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v_YBbW432Po/URJxPLhgd7I/AAAAAAAAABY/vtY70RgJVLg/s1600/arnold_schwarzenegger_childhood_pictures++%7B1007%7D.jpg)(http://www.xplosivegrowth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-11.jpg)


There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.
He was young, not as his max. You can't tell the lagging bodypart when one just begin to train.
Arnold shoulder are something he can't grow bigger.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: che on March 28, 2015, 08:53:01 PM
He was young, not as his max. You can't tell the lagging bodypart when one just begin to train.
Arnold shoulder are something he can't grow bigger.

 ::)
What part  of ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it'' don't you understand ?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Smokincrazy on March 28, 2015, 09:30:56 PM
Radu will improve...........



Once he dumps the gypsy  ;D
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 29, 2015, 06:04:06 AM
I'm not trolling  ,  I am speaking from my own personal experience,  having really weak calves that my friends used to make fun of .

You say that you can't improve  weak points , ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it''

How about Arnold from a weak chest to arguably the best chest in bodybuilding history.

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?


There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.

I think you don't get it. Yes, you can increase the size of a muscle (duh!), but you can't change its shape.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: _aj_ on March 29, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
Kinda how I look now but I am little bit bigger and fatter I got better shoulders and chest.



I am sure. How about a pic so that we can compare you to Radu? Radu is bigger than me for sure, so if you are really bigger than Radu, I will submit to your awesomeness.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 29, 2015, 06:14:04 AM
I'm not trolling  ,  I am speaking from my own personal experience,  having really weak calves that my friends used to make fun of .

You say that you can't improve  weak points , ''You will become an overall bigger version of yourself, that's it''

How about Arnold from a weak chest to arguably the best chest in bodybuilding history.

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?

(http://www.realmuscleforum.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_BodyBuilding_16years.jpg)(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0-ys1bvpskLtCWX6B6qkZz0KvmxFGfST5THQR-x3wb8uw6JBGpQ)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v_YBbW432Po/URJxPLhgd7I/AAAAAAAAABY/vtY70RgJVLg/s1600/arnold_schwarzenegger_childhood_pictures++%7B1007%7D.jpg)(http://www.xplosivegrowth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-11.jpg)

There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.

Same can be said for Arnie's calves.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Lord Chronos on March 29, 2015, 06:25:24 AM
Radu last september and today..

Is he doing low doses. If you are going to waste time with this shit, you might as well go all out and mega dose.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: che on March 29, 2015, 06:25:43 AM
I think you don't get it. Yes, you can increase the size of a muscle (duh!), but you can't change its shape.
Who the fuck is talking about muscle shape  ???  go back an reread the thread genius.



Same can be said for Arnie's calves.

Exactly
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 29, 2015, 06:34:54 AM

Does this looks like a bigger version of himself to you?

(http://www.realmuscleforum.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_BodyBuilding_16years.jpg)(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0-ys1bvpskLtCWX6B6qkZz0KvmxFGfST5THQR-x3wb8uw6JBGpQ)


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v_YBbW432Po/URJxPLhgd7I/AAAAAAAAABY/vtY70RgJVLg/s1600/arnold_schwarzenegger_childhood_pictures++%7B1007%7D.jpg)(http://www.xplosivegrowth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-11.jpg)


There is a reason why bodybuilders in the 80's had better symmetry -proportions/balance  than modern bodybuilders.

Yes he does look like a bigger version of himself. Are you saying only his pecs grew? Biceps and chest were always his strong points.

It would also help if you posted the same pose. Talking about the side chest and bicep shot.

I also don't know why people say he had weak calves in the beginning. They had excellent shape and you could tell he had plenty of fibers there. Weak calves that can't be trained is someone like Johnnie Jackson, Dexter, Ronnie etc.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 29, 2015, 06:49:33 AM
Here


(http://culturism.md/wp-content/images/arnold-50-foto/arnold-schwarzenegger-young-photos-47.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/48/5a/13/485a13327f489e4034da6b0d81b53a84.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bf/93/63/bf9363b7c950d2af703469b6fc7bfbe7.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/75/c6/f9/75c6f923e273d39b3e2eaf9b1ede3448.jpg)

No one changes their genetic shape much. Any fan of the sport could pic out young Arnold's body without his head because it's so distinct.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 29, 2015, 06:50:37 AM
Keeping it real in Romania
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Lord Chronos on March 29, 2015, 06:56:55 AM
Keeping it real in Romania

He is the most unromanian looking man I have ever seen.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: che on March 29, 2015, 06:59:24 AM
Here


(http://culturism.md/wp-content/images/arnold-50-foto/arnold-schwarzenegger-young-photos-47.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/48/5a/13/485a13327f489e4034da6b0d81b53a84.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bf/93/63/bf9363b7c950d2af703469b6fc7bfbe7.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/75/c6/f9/75c6f923e273d39b3e2eaf9b1ede3448.jpg)

No one changes their genetic shape much. Any fan of the sport could pic out young Arnold's body without his head because it's so distinct.

Maybe you don't know the difference  between  muscle shape and muscle proportions .

From you:
''no one ever changes their proportions''
''Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.''
''Warren - will always be quad dominant.''
''Dorian - always slightly undersized arms''

BTW I'm done with this nonsense.

Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on March 29, 2015, 07:08:18 AM
Sev too tough to smile
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 29, 2015, 07:16:01 AM
Maybe you don't know the difference  between  muscle shape and muscle proportions .

From you:
''no one ever changes their proportions''
''Big Ramy - will always be quad dominant.''
''Warren - will always be quad dominant.''
''Dorian - always slightly undersized arms''

BTW I'm done with this nonsense.



I do know the difference. I just don't think Arnold's pecs were lagging in the beginning for example. Kind of hard to compare the pics too because the poses aren't held the exact same way.
But from what I've observed in real life as well, the proportions of a beginning trainee become apparent quickly and it's very hard to change them through training. It's as if the body grows how the fuck it wants, regardless of anything you do. A while ago me and a friend laughed about this because his traps seem to have grown the most out of any bodypart and it's the only part he doesn't train directly.

But sure, I  would emphasize weak bodyparts as well in training, it's just that it doesn't work that well. :D But even small improvements would be welcome of course.

Tom Platz never got his upper to match his legs despite only training legs once a month and killing his upper body.

No one would resort to injecting oil if it was simply a question of prioritizing in training.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: che on March 29, 2015, 07:27:57 AM
I do know the difference. I just don't think Arnold's pecs were lagging in the beginning for example. Kind of hard to compare the pics too because the poses aren't held the exact same way.
But from what I've observed in real life as well, the proportions of a beginning trainee become apparent quickly and it's very hard to change them through training. It's as if the body grows how the fuck it wants, regardless of anything you do. A while ago me and a friend laughed about this because his traps seem to have grown the most out of any bodypart and it's the only part he doesn't train directly.

But sure, I  would emphasize weak bodyparts as well in training, it's just that it doesn't work that well. :D But even small improvements would be welcome of course.

Tom Platz never got his upper to match his legs despite only training legs once a month and killing his upper body.

No one would resort to injecting oil if it was simply a question of prioritizing in training.

Tom Platz another good example.

IM: How long did you actually stay with this one-exercise beginner routine?

TP: Well, I trained for about two years like that – just sort of making my leg day an easy day. I think I did some abs that same day and some other things. It was a day I would go into the gym more or less to recuperate and to talk to some of my friends. Never really applying the energy necessary to legs that I did to other bodyparts. In fact, I was known in high school as having, you know, twig legs and a huge upper body.

IM: That’s rather surprising. Most people who know about your bodybuilding accomplishments might just assume that you started working legs right from the very beginning and your leg development just took off.

TP: No, it was completely the opposite. In fact, a lot of my high school buddies would say to me years later, “Oh, my God, in high school you never had legs. In fact you were known for having skinny legs.”
It wasn’t until we moved to Detroit and I went to a place called Armento’s Gym, which is still there, that I really got into leg training. I think I was in the 12th grade, and there were a lot of serious Olympic lifters in that gym.

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/e/6//e6252_ORIG-M_ody_Tom_Platz.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 29, 2015, 08:15:15 AM
Well like he said, never really did legs there. Once he did they exploded. Arms didn't grow much
from that pic. :D

I'm sure he did everything possible for his arms, it just wasn't to be genetically. Tom said many times the legs were
genetic, not that he didn't absolutely kill them of course. Sometimes I think bodybuilders should concentrate even more on their stregths instead of their weaknesses. What would Tom be without the legs, not a legend, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: wes on March 29, 2015, 08:16:53 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=569199.0;attach=609350;image)

Much improved,but needs to lift ribcage in this shot to create more of an illusion of size/mass.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 29, 2015, 10:37:17 AM
Who the fuck is talking about muscle shape  ???  go back an reread the thread genius.



Exactly

My apologies, I thought you had a different interpretation of 'improving areas' (shape-wise, not size-wise).
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 31, 2015, 05:07:42 AM
Leg day. 500 € to whomever can hang in with him leg training rep for rep poundage and rythm  ;D
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on March 31, 2015, 05:10:43 AM
I,ll PM you my address then ^^
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 31, 2015, 06:03:16 AM
I,ll PM you my address then ^^
the other way around chief
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: bigmc on March 31, 2015, 06:04:14 AM
the other way around chief

whats his leg training look like sev

heavy squats?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on March 31, 2015, 06:23:00 AM
he would beat me on a run thats it, those legs took chicken sticks next to my mighty beast trunks
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2015, 06:42:06 AM
Tom Platz another good example.

IM: How long did you actually stay with this one-exercise beginner routine?

TP: Well, I trained for about two years like that – just sort of making my leg day an easy day. I think I did some abs that same day and some other things. It was a day I would go into the gym more or less to recuperate and to talk to some of my friends. Never really applying the energy necessary to legs that I did to other bodyparts. In fact, I was known in high school as having, you know, twig legs and a huge upper body.

IM: That’s rather surprising. Most people who know about your bodybuilding accomplishments might just assume that you started working legs right from the very beginning and your leg development just took off.

TP: No, it was completely the opposite. In fact, a lot of my high school buddies would say to me years later, “Oh, my God, in high school you never had legs. In fact you were known for having skinny legs.”
It wasn’t until we moved to Detroit and I went to a place called Armento’s Gym, which is still there, that I really got into leg training. I think I was in the 12th grade, and there were a lot of serious Olympic lifters in that gym.

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/e/6//e6252_ORIG-M_ody_Tom_Platz.jpg)

Van Bilderass, you've been owned.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 31, 2015, 06:54:38 AM
Van Bilderass, you've been owned.

Really? Here's what I said

To those who comment on his lack of pecs or legs or whatever. And basically no one else will ever say this: no one ever changes their proportions. It never happens in someone who hasn't totally neglected some part of their body in training.

Platz really didn't train legs in the beginning. Show me someone who has been training their whole body for a while instead.

What I'm saying is especially true in the pro ranks as well as top amateurs. They go to these gurus like Charles Glass to hit their weaknesses from "different angles" yet it never does anything ever. Show me Dexter or Rhoden changing their proportions even slightly under the guidance of these master trainers. Year after year they look exactly the same. Only conditioning and overall size changes.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2015, 07:29:13 AM
Really? Here's what I said

Platz really didn't train legs in the beginning. Show me someone who has been training their whole body for a while instead.

What I'm saying is especially true in the pro ranks as well as top amateurs. They go to these gurus like Charles Glass to hit their weaknesses from "different angles" yet it never does anything ever. Show me Dexter or Rhoden changing their proportions even slightly under the guidance of these master trainers. Year after year they look exactly the same. Only conditioning and overall size changes.
TOO A POINT,,BUT REMEMBER GLASS DID TWEAK GUNTER'S LOOK..
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 31, 2015, 01:39:40 PM
whats his leg training look like sev

heavy squats?
never ever

Leg extensions
Bicep curls
Lunges
245lbs squats at the end 10 sets 20 reps
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 31, 2015, 01:40:47 PM
he would beat me on a run thats it, those legs took chicken sticks next to my mighty beast trunks
you must be high
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: SF1900 on March 31, 2015, 01:52:44 PM
you must be high

Actually, he's not. Bigros legs destroy ragus legs. Are you high?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538224.0;attach=567098;image)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 31, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
Actually, he's not. Bigros legs destroy ragus legs. Are you high?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538224.0;attach=567098;image)
yes you arebigger than a guy who did not complete yet his first ear bodybuilding. He does train harder than you and in a couple of years will beat you in competashun easily. Watch him
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: SF1900 on March 31, 2015, 10:07:58 PM
yes you arebigger than a guy who did not complete yet his first ear bodybuilding. He does train harder than you and in a couple of years will beat you in competashun easily. Watch him

Why are you responding to me like I am bigro? I just posted a picture of him.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 01, 2015, 01:52:33 AM
Why are you responding to me like I am bigro? I just posted a picture of him.

Put the gimmick down, BigRo :D
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Sokolsky on April 01, 2015, 02:12:09 AM
never ever

Leg extensions
Bicep curls
Lunges
245lbs squats at the end 10 sets 20 reps

lmfao, so that means he's using wraps+belt for 245?? hahaha

And you think Radu will outdo BigRo??? Holy fuck can you say delusional at best????
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2015, 05:02:40 AM
Time will tell  ;)
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: TheShape. on April 01, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
yes you arebigger than a guy who did not complete yet his first ear bodybuilding. He does train harder than you and in a couple of years will beat you in competashun easily. Watch him
Team delusional of peace. Your Radu just doesn't have the genetics for bodybuilding, no matter how many drugs you pump into him.
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2015, 02:02:39 PM
Team delusional of peace. Your Radu just doesn't have the genetics for bodybuilding, no matter how many drugs you pump into him.
post a pic "big" guy
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: TheShape. on April 01, 2015, 05:11:55 PM
post a pic "big" guy
A pic of what skeleton?
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: bigmc on April 02, 2015, 06:37:43 AM
yes you arebigger than a guy who did not complete yet his first ear bodybuilding. He does train harder than you and in a couple of years will beat you in competashun easily. Watch him

ro looks phenomenal

probably good give radu some good tips
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 06:47:20 AM
ro looks phenomenal

probably good give radu some good tips
x2 Guy has legs like the Colosseum pillars
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 03, 2015, 09:24:17 PM
ro looks phenomenal

probably good give radu some good tips
radu gets "tips" from the best there is IMO

Big ro could advise him maybe on how to build a g4p portofolio in a fluctuating schmoe market
Title: Re: 5 month progress
Post by: BigRo on April 04, 2015, 02:00:39 AM
radu gets "tips" from the best there is IMO

Big ro could advise him maybe on how to build a g4p portofolio in a fluctuating schmoe market

translation = Radu gets my tip.