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Title: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Army of One on April 02, 2015, 06:14:42 PM
That's just sad, no wonder there are so many beta cucked, metro, hipster men today
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Competitor 9 on April 02, 2015, 06:17:50 PM
That's just sad, no wonder there are so many beta cucked, metro, hipster men today

Yep I wouldn't be suprised if it food related
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Army of One on April 02, 2015, 06:20:13 PM
Got mine checked a couple of months ago, was 1080ng/dl,natty
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: agenda21nwo on April 02, 2015, 06:28:45 PM
Yes, men's test dropping, women's test rising.

Food related, and also tap water related.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: SF1900 on April 02, 2015, 06:35:27 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4140/4880115749_373554df06_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: che on April 02, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Got mine checked a couple of months ago, was 108.0ng/dl,natty

Fixed
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: _aj_ on April 02, 2015, 06:47:28 PM
Got mine checked a couple of months ago, was 1080ng/dl,natty

IIRC, that's like 99.99 percentile normal.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: SF1900 on April 02, 2015, 06:48:13 PM
I have so much testosterone, that when I got my test levels checked, the results said, "Alpha."
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Army of One on April 02, 2015, 06:50:42 PM
IIRC, that's like 99.99 percentile normal.

Top end, was surprised myself as I had it checked as I though maybe mine was low.I'm also on fin which raises test around 20% on average
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 02, 2015, 06:52:14 PM
link? who was measuring avg test levels 40 years ago what was sample size
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: calfzilla on April 02, 2015, 06:52:59 PM
I would attribute it to rise in obesity rates. Obesity lowers T.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Erik C on April 02, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
Result of the high carb diet, promoted by government, "food" industry, and medical establishment.

It does have a Darwinian effect, as those stupid enough to constantly eat garbage carbs, will get sick and die off quicker.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Army of One on April 02, 2015, 07:04:45 PM
link? who was measuring avg test levels 40 years ago what was sample size

Read it a while back, heres an article that fits what I remember,ill look for the original,

"They found that testosterone concentrations dropped about 1.2% per year, or about 17% overall, from 1987 to 2004. The downward trend was seen in both the population and in individuals over time."

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Army of One on April 02, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
"On the www.usdoctor.com website, /testone.htm, it states
 The normal range of testosterone is reported as 350- 1200ng/dl. Studies in the 1940's showed the average testosterone level to be at 700 ng/dl, 300 ng/dl higher than for men today. In the past, a drop in testosterone levels to 250 ng/dl was rarely reported before men were 80 years of age. Yet today, it is not an uncommon value for middle aged men"
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 02, 2015, 07:12:04 PM
Read it a while back, heres an article that fits what I remember,ill look for the original,

"They found that testosterone concentrations dropped about 1.2% per year, or about 17% overall, from 1987 to 2004. The downward trend was seen in both the population and in individuals over time."

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html

Depressing
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: 240 is Back on April 02, 2015, 07:19:09 PM
dont worry, males wear beards now.   all is well.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Straw Man on April 02, 2015, 07:25:52 PM
I would attribute it to rise in obesity rates. Obesity lowers T.

good point

I recall a doctor (can't recall where) saying that before he prescribes T he makes his patients lose weight and that usually takes care of the issue
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 02, 2015, 07:28:17 PM
Birth control metabolites in the drinking water.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: ritch on April 02, 2015, 07:29:39 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4140/4880115749_373554df06_z.jpg)

I feel deeply sorry for the father. To the dads out there... Say some shit is not going as you like in the moment with your kids for whatever reason... Just take a look at that pic and be thankful it's not your kid. How the hell can you try and understand that?

Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: calfzilla on April 02, 2015, 07:57:51 PM
Would disown my kid if he was emo. And the kids that "cut" lol just kill yourself you little phaggot.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: ritch on April 02, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Would disown my kid if he was emo. And the kids that "cut" lol just kill yourself you little phaggot.

could sell it to the underground sex market at least?



















Yes, I feel terrible for saying such a thing...
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Skeletor on April 02, 2015, 08:04:55 PM
I feel deeply sorry for the father. To the dads out there... Say some shit is not going as you like in the moment with your kids for whatever reason... Just take a look at that pic and be thankful it's not your kid. How the hell can you try and understand that?



His/her dad..

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/096/328/l_5778d55dce14428394f7ff4172abb332.jpg) (http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/952/emo-dad-22891-1257438303-107.jpg)
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: ritch on April 02, 2015, 08:05:49 PM
His/her dad..

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/096/328/l_5778d55dce14428394f7ff4172abb332.jpg) (http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/952/emo-dad-22891-1257438303-107.jpg)

Bahahaha!!!!
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Ropo on April 02, 2015, 08:24:21 PM
Yes, men's test dropping, women's test rising.

Food related, and also tap water related.

Well, just prove it?  I mean your claim is just childish and ridiculous, and it's is underling the fact that you must be an idiot. If you want to know the truth about the matter, you have just to think what has change in works what folks do or how they spend their past time. 40 years back there wasn't computer related works, people didn't have PlayStations or computers at home. There wasn't any women's fitness boom back  then, but all the men were jogging their ass of.  This is what it is all about, how we use our time. 40 years ago people move lot more in their work and in their past time, now we move less because all these past time toys which tie us at the front of the TV-screens. We don't have to move at work either, because we work via computers, and we have our immigrants to do all the hard and dirty jobs. Human kind doesn't move enough to maintain the production of these muscle work related hormones, and women's fitness fashion is evening out the difference between man and woman. Did I simplified this enough to you to understand, or do you need an example? I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone than you, who are just a rat, sitting on your lard filled fat ass  ;D
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Erik C on April 02, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
  I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone than you, who are just a rat,

Driving motorcycles will produce more testosterone? Talk about wearing tin foil hats. Exercise doesn't produce more testosterone either. Eating the raw materials, fats and proteins, for facilitating hormone production, allows you to exercise more, and get better results from your exercise. It's high carb diets, that are killing testosterone levels, creating so many disease states, Type II diabetes, and obesity, in the last 40 to 50 years.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: DanM on April 03, 2015, 12:20:39 AM
Well, just prove it?  I mean your claim is just childish and ridiculous, and it's is underling the fact that you must be an idiot. If you want to know the truth about the matter, you have just to think what has change in works what folks do or how they spend their past time. 40 years back there wasn't computer related works, people didn't have PlayStations or computers at home. There wasn't any women's fitness boom back  then, but all the men were jogging their ass of.  This is what it is all about, how we use our time. 40 years ago people move lot more in their work and in their past time, now we move less because all these past time toys which tie us at the front of the TV-screens. We don't have to move at work either, because we work via computers, and we have our immigrants to do all the hard and dirty jobs. Human kind doesn't move enough to maintain the production of these muscle work related hormones, and women's fitness fashion is evening out the difference between man and woman. Did I simplified this enough to you to understand, or do you need an example? I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone than you, who are just a rat, sitting on your lard filled fat ass  ;D

lol this ropo clown completely dismissing anything and everything that doesn't fit his mold of thinking as usual and asking for proof on matters where any viable documentation would be very hard to come by due to the matter of evilness/level of corruption that no doubt exists in the word.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: booty on April 03, 2015, 12:26:06 AM
Yep I wouldn't be suprised if it food related
Mostly environmental estrogens which would be making estrogen higher than what it should naturally be. All the plastics and pesticides in our foods plus high processed foods easily available equals a dangerous high level of estrogen.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Costanza on April 03, 2015, 01:02:02 AM
I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone

The hoes love my motorbike and in turn can't drop their panties quick enough thereby driving my testosterone and cOck sky high.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: jon cole on April 03, 2015, 02:59:45 AM
some night i can barely sleep because of boner, so i guess mine are pretty high for a 36 y.o
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Omega on April 03, 2015, 04:10:35 AM
Well, just prove it?  I mean your claim is just childish and ridiculous, and it's is underling the fact that you must be an idiot. If you want to know the truth about the matter, you have just to think what has change in works what folks do or how they spend their past time. 40 years back there wasn't computer related works, people didn't have PlayStations or computers at home. There wasn't any women's fitness boom back  then, but all the men were jogging their ass of.  This is what it is all about, how we use our time. 40 years ago people move lot more in their work and in their past time, now we move less because all these past time toys which tie us at the front of the TV-screens. We don't have to move at work either, because we work via computers, and we have our immigrants to do all the hard and dirty jobs. Human kind doesn't move enough to maintain the production of these muscle work related hormones, and women's fitness fashion is evening out the difference between man and woman. Did I simplified this enough to you to understand, or do you need an example? I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone than you, who are just a rat, sitting on your lard filled fat ass  ;D

Yet again this dickhead emerges...notice the pattern...
He cant help himself or its his job
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Henda on April 03, 2015, 04:37:17 AM
It comes as no surprise that test levels are lower than ever, go into any busy pub and look around at all the bleached blond, false tan, make up, skinny jean wearing fags than make up the majority of the "men" in the place and it's painfully obvious, not to long ago if one of these types ventured into a bar they'd promptly leave through the front window, nowadays they are the majority
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Army of One on April 03, 2015, 04:45:46 AM
not to long ago if one of these types ventured into a bar they'd promptly leave through the front window


lol
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: booty on April 03, 2015, 04:55:05 AM
It comes as no surprise that test levels are lower than ever, go into any busy pub and look around at all the bleached blond, false tan, make up, skinny jean wearing fags than make up the majority of the "men" in the place and it's painfully obvious, not to long ago if one of these types ventured into a bar they'd promptly leave through the front window, nowadays they are the majority
Frightening thought. The other day I saw a guy with a bun as his hairstyle. That's clearly not masculine.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: BigRo on April 03, 2015, 05:53:37 AM
a bun or a top knot?
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Bevo on April 03, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
Guys should never ever wear skinny jeans....... Ever
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: King Shizzo on April 03, 2015, 05:57:58 AM
Maybe that explains why I look like Sigourney Weaver.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: _aj_ on April 03, 2015, 06:00:17 AM
Maybe that explains why I look like Sigourney Weaver.

 :D
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: CalvinH on April 03, 2015, 06:01:37 AM
That's why I'm on 2000mg of test.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 04, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
Roopoo, hates every 1 & disagree with other 6 billions of humanoids about anything ;D

Roopoo is 1very angry nursing home resident , ah those old Wiggzers  ::)

Roopoo I really feel sorry 4 U ,  :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Ropo on April 05, 2015, 08:39:48 AM
Driving motorcycles will produce more testosterone? Talk about wearing tin foil hats. Exercise doesn't produce more testosterone either. Eating the raw materials, fats and proteins, for facilitating hormone production, allows you to exercise more, and get better results from your exercise. It's high carb diets, that are killing testosterone levels, creating so many disease states, Type II diabetes, and obesity, in the last 40 to 50 years.

From hundred of articles about the matter, here is one: http://www.mensfitness.co.uk/lifestyle/1558/10-ways-boost-testosterone (http://www.mensfitness.co.uk/lifestyle/1558/10-ways-boost-testosterone). Buy a 500cc motocross bike, drive 2 hours in sand based circuit as fast as you can. Repeat weekly.  Google "Päijänneajo", that is what I do for fun. Living like a man will increase your testosterone levels, whining at the front of your computer will make it lower  ;D
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Ropo on April 05, 2015, 08:46:03 AM
lol this ropo clown completely dismissing anything and everything that doesn't fit his mold of thinking as usual and asking for proof on matters where any viable documentation would be very hard to come by due to the matter of evilness/level of corruption that no doubt exists in the word.

Well, if you wouldn't believe me, read the study, or even one of thousands of them, which are pointing out that WWW, facebook etc. computer/playstation amusements have changed how human kind live their life. If we use you as an example, what else you have done past 2 years but masturbate at the front of your computer, and filled this forum with your stupidity? You don't have time to anything else, you just eat, shit and seek for free porn.  ;D
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: kreator on April 05, 2015, 09:21:50 AM
constantly surrounding yourself and interacting with fresh pussy is the best booster there is
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: ritch on April 05, 2015, 09:27:21 AM
From hundred of articles about the matter, here is one: http://www.mensfitness.co.uk/lifestyle/1558/10-ways-boost-testosterone (http://www.mensfitness.co.uk/lifestyle/1558/10-ways-boost-testosterone). Buy a 500cc motocross bike, drive 2 hours in sand based circuit as fast as you can. Repeat weekly.  Google "Päijänneajo", that is what I do for fun. Living like a man will increase your testosterone levels, whining at the front of your computer will make it lower  ;D

This!!!
Wanna get a bike so badly, gonna have to wait until next summer...
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: TEH boob on April 05, 2015, 10:53:25 AM
I would attribute it to rise in obesity rates. Obesity lowers T.
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: andreisdaman on April 05, 2015, 03:28:55 PM
I think Test is definitely dropping among men....the reasons:

TAKING ON CHILDCARE DUTIES...definitely lowers test....makes us into women because we now have to be empathetic and nurturing ...empathy=lower test

GUILT....society has made us feel guilty over our aggressive behaviors.....we can't even hit our wives and kids any more (LOL) therefore we now repress anger and try to talk things out...talking =lower test

PUSSIFICATION...we now have to treat our wives and girlfriends as equals and actually have to let them get their own way and not argue about it..this means no more nights out and no more pursuing what makes us happy........pussificati on = lower test

Obesity does play a role too due to the things above which lower test and makes our bodies resemble women's bodies...we then look the way we feel...like shit

that's my theory


Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 05, 2015, 05:12:53 PM
Yet again this dickhead emerges...notice the pattern...
He cant help himself or its his job


It's his job...These types of people get paid to post in numerous CT type sites...


Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: booty on April 05, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
a bun or a top knot?
It was a bun
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Rambone on April 05, 2015, 06:21:19 PM
His/her dad..

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/096/328/l_5778d55dce14428394f7ff4172abb332.jpg) (http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/952/emo-dad-22891-1257438303-107.jpg)

HAHAHAHA what the fuck
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: Ropo on April 15, 2015, 03:13:20 AM
It's his job...These types of people get paid to post in numerous CT type sites...




So you really think that some one would pay me for outwitting your kind of imbeciles? Then there must also be an organization which pay people for breathing, because it has to be next hardest thing in line. Truth about the matter is simple: Foil hat idiots get verbally beaten every where they write even a word, because they are idiots drooling on their shoes. They deny this simple fact, and as always, they build completely fictive scenario to protect themselves from the cruel world. In their fiction there is some sinister organization who pays guys like me to outwit idiots like you, but that is only imagination of your kind. In real world, you didn't get crappy scores at school by mistake, you earn those by being idiot. This is only continuum of that and it goes on as long as you live your miserable life as an idiot  ;D

Did you look that video yourself? Is the guy in the video some kind of guru to you, some kind of author who you respect, because what comes my mind is some fucking foil hat idiot who live in the basement of his parents house and live just by the Coca Cola and weenies...wait the minute..in fact he lives just like you do..  
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: muscleman-2013 on April 15, 2015, 03:32:42 AM
SO WHY HAVE THEY DROPPED???
Title: Re: Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today
Post by: andreisdaman on April 15, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
SO WHY HAVE THEY DROPPED???

I explained why....see my post above