Average male test levels have dropped from 700ng 40 yrs ago to 400ng today

[Army of One]

That's just sad, no wonder there are so many beta cucked, metro, hipster men today

[Competitor 9]

That's just sad, no wonder there are so many beta cucked, metro, hipster men today

Yep I wouldn't be suprised if it food related

[Army of One]

Got mine checked a couple of months ago, was 1080ng/dl,natty

[agenda21nwo]

Yes, men's test dropping, women's test rising.

Food related, and also tap water related.

[SF1900]

[che]

Got mine checked a couple of months ago, was 108.0ng/dl,natty

Fixed

[_aj_]

Got mine checked a couple of months ago, was 1080ng/dl,natty

IIRC, that's like 99.99 percentile normal.

[SF1900]

I have so much testosterone, that when I got my test levels checked, the results said, "Alpha."

[Army of One]

IIRC, that's like 99.99 percentile normal.

Top end, was surprised myself as I had it checked as I though maybe mine was low.I'm also on fin which raises test around 20% on average

[OlympiaGym]

link? who was measuring avg test levels 40 years ago what was sample size

[calfzilla]

I would attribute it to rise in obesity rates. Obesity lowers T.

[Erik C]

Result of the high carb diet, promoted by government, "food" industry, and medical establishment.

It does have a Darwinian effect, as those stupid enough to constantly eat garbage carbs, will get sick and die off quicker.

[Army of One]

link? who was measuring avg test levels 40 years ago what was sample size

Read it a while back, heres an article that fits what I remember,ill look for the original,

"They found that testosterone concentrations dropped about 1.2% per year, or about 17% overall, from 1987 to 2004. The downward trend was seen in both the population and in individuals over time."

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html

[Army of One]

"On the www.usdoctor.com website, /testone.htm, it states
 The normal range of testosterone is reported as 350- 1200ng/dl. Studies in the 1940's showed the average testosterone level to be at 700 ng/dl, 300 ng/dl higher than for men today. In the past, a drop in testosterone levels to 250 ng/dl was rarely reported before men were 80 years of age. Yet today, it is not an uncommon value for middle aged men"

[OlympiaGym]

Read it a while back, heres an article that fits what I remember,ill look for the original,

"They found that testosterone concentrations dropped about 1.2% per year, or about 17% overall, from 1987 to 2004. The downward trend was seen in both the population and in individuals over time."

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html

Depressing

[240 is Back]

dont worry, males wear beards now.   all is well.

[Straw Man]

I would attribute it to rise in obesity rates. Obesity lowers T.

good point

I recall a doctor (can't recall where) saying that before he prescribes T he makes his patients lose weight and that usually takes care of the issue

[Mr Anabolic]

Birth control metabolites in the drinking water.

[ritch]

I feel deeply sorry for the father. To the dads out there... Say some shit is not going as you like in the moment with your kids for whatever reason... Just take a look at that pic and be thankful it's not your kid. How the hell can you try and understand that?

[calfzilla]

Would disown my kid if he was emo. And the kids that "cut" lol just kill yourself you little phaggot.

[ritch]

Would disown my kid if he was emo. And the kids that "cut" lol just kill yourself you little phaggot.

could sell it to the underground sex market at least?



















Yes, I feel terrible for saying such a thing...

[Skeletor]

I feel deeply sorry for the father. To the dads out there... Say some shit is not going as you like in the moment with your kids for whatever reason... Just take a look at that pic and be thankful it's not your kid. How the hell can you try and understand that?

His/her dad..

[ritch]

His/her dad..

Bahahaha!!!!

[Ropo]

Yes, men's test dropping, women's test rising.

Food related, and also tap water related.

Well, just prove it?  I mean your claim is just childish and ridiculous, and it's is underling the fact that you must be an idiot. If you want to know the truth about the matter, you have just to think what has change in works what folks do or how they spend their past time. 40 years back there wasn't computer related works, people didn't have PlayStations or computers at home. There wasn't any women's fitness boom back  then, but all the men were jogging their ass of.  This is what it is all about, how we use our time. 40 years ago people move lot more in their work and in their past time, now we move less because all these past time toys which tie us at the front of the TV-screens. We don't have to move at work either, because we work via computers, and we have our immigrants to do all the hard and dirty jobs. Human kind doesn't move enough to maintain the production of these muscle work related hormones, and women's fitness fashion is evening out the difference between man and woman. Did I simplified this enough to you to understand, or do you need an example? I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone than you, who are just a rat, sitting on your lard filled fat ass  

[Erik C]

  I, as a gym rat who is lifting weights three times per week and swimming, cycling, driving motorcycles  etc. will product more testosterone than you, who are just a rat,

Driving motorcycles will produce more testosterone? Talk about wearing tin foil hats. Exercise doesn't produce more testosterone either. Eating the raw materials, fats and proteins, for facilitating hormone production, allows you to exercise more, and get better results from your exercise. It's high carb diets, that are killing testosterone levels, creating so many disease states, Type II diabetes, and obesity, in the last 40 to 50 years.