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Decades of listening to liberal jerkoffs trying to malign Christendom for the Crusades.
But now we see the type of thing those noble men faced, and we not only respect them, but understand that they were heroes of their age.
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I'm Catholic and while I don't justify the Crusades since I generally think violence is counter productive, I'm not apologetic over it either.
The Islamic Empire conquered Jerusalem from the Byzantine's and the Crusaders went to reclaim it. It was a case of vast and powerful empires colliding.
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Most people don't understand a thing about the Crusades and they don't care to know either.
All most objectors know is the word "Crusades" and that you're supposed to say it defiantly when a Christian talks about God and love.
If that doesn't work you mention slavery in the bible; although again most objectors have no idea what they are talking about. They just know slavery is in the bible somewhere. Why or what or any of that they don't care about.
If that still doesn't work then most note the naturalistic impossibility of Noah's ark and again grasp nothing outside that idea, but they know to say "Noah's ark" with most scoffing arrogant tone possible.
If all that fails then the ole trusty "FU" and "religion is a retarded disease" is thrown out....something to that effect.
It's seems to be that those that object the loudest understand the least.
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I'm finished now....off the soapbox LOL.
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Most people don't understand a thing about the Crusades and they don't care to know either.
All most objectors know is the word "Crusades" and that you're supposed to say it defiantly when a Christian talks about God and love.
If that doesn't work you mention slavery in the bible; although again most objectors have no idea what they are talking about. They just know slavery is in the bible somewhere. Why or what or any of that they don't care about.
If that still doesn't work then most note the naturalistic impossibility of Noah's ark and again grasp nothing outside that idea, but they know to say "Noah's ark" with most scoffing arrogant tone possible.
If all that fails then the ole trusty "FU" and "religion is a retarded disease" is thrown out....something to that effect.
It's seems to be that those that object the loudest understand the least.
Or you get some christian defending slavery and creating this image that slavery was "different" back then, they treated them wonderfully, forgetting that the bible says God told Moses, "You can beat your male or female slave with a rod, as long as you don't kill them... because they are you're property.
que MOS with the apologetic explanation that slavery back then wasn't really slavery...
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Fighting and killing others over religion is something only crazy fuckers do.
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Most people don't understand a thing about the Crusades and they don't care to know either.
All most objectors know is the word "Crusades" and that you're supposed to say it defiantly when a Christian talks about God and love.
If that doesn't work you mention slavery in the bible; although again most objectors have no idea what they are talking about. They just know slavery is in the bible somewhere. Why or what or any of that they don't care about.
If that still doesn't work then most note the naturalistic impossibility of Noah's ark and again grasp nothing outside that idea, but they know to say "Noah's ark" with most scoffing arrogant tone possible.
If all that fails then the ole trusty "FU" and "religion is a retarded disease" is thrown out....something to that effect.
It's seems to be that those that object the loudest understand the least.
Sorry, but you pitch a non christian a soft ball, he's gonna knock it out of the park.. Noah's ark is a soft ball, much like the sun stopping in the sky for a battle, dead saints rising from their graves and walking throught the city.. a man dying on the cross and rising from the dead 3 days later, plagues that kill all the cattle.. several times, walking on water, heaven is in the sky, a place like hell,
stepping off soap box.. :)
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Or you get some christian defending slavery and creating this image that slavery was "different" back then, they treated them wonderfully, forgetting that the bible says God told Moses, "You can beat your male or female slave with a rod, as long as you don't kill them... because they are you're property.
que MOS with the apologetic explanation that slavery back then wasn't really slavery...
Fuck of you dirty pig, no wonder you hate god, cos you must know he hates dirty money changers and their servants (you).
OINK OINK
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Decades of listening to liberal jerkoffs trying to malign Christendom for the Crusades.
But now we see the type of thing those noble men faced, and we not only respect them, but understand that they were heroes of their age.
Yes, you are right on target. Obama brings up the Crusades on Easter and at the national prayer breakfast to give digs to Christians. Really a 1000 years ago is your objections to Christians? They were fighting the radical Muslims back then too. They must have did a good job because they were a little problem for many years.
When atheist use quotes out of the old testament I hope they realize they realize that the Bible was written by man. It was translated from Aramaic, Hebrew and other languages. Words had different meanings then and the translations are often debated. The new testament preaches love.
The definition of an atheist is a self absorbed pompous individual that thinks they are smart enough to figure out the universe but if you ask them to make a can opener they can't figure it out. These same atheist say a prayer on their death bed in case they are wrong and it's that prayer they show the meaning of faith. If a man is truly an atheist they wouldn't care what the faithful practice or about announcing their views every opportunity. It just wouldn't matter.
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Fuck of you dirty pig, no wonder you hate god, cos you must know he hates dirty money changers and their servants (you).
OINK OINK
If you knew the bible my friend, you would know cops are referred to in Romans Chapter 13 and kinda spoke highly of... have a wonderful day and thank you for your thoughtful, spirit filled response. :)
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Yes, you are right on target. Obama brings up the Crusades on Easter and at the national prayer breakfast to give digs to Christians. Really a 1000 years ago is your objections to Christians? They were fighting the radical Muslims back then too. They must have did a good job because they were a little problem for many years.
When atheist use quotes out of the old testament I hope they realize they realize that the Bible was written by man. It was translated from Aramaic, Hebrew and other languages. Words had different meanings then and the translations are often debated. The new testament preaches love.
The definition of an atheist is a self absorbed pompous individual that thinks they are smart enough to figure out the universe but if you ask them to make a can opener they can't figure it out. These same atheist say a prayer on their death bed in case they are wrong and it's that prayer they show the meaning of faith. If a man is truly an atheist they wouldn't care what the faithful practice or about announcing their views every opportunity. It just wouldn't matter.
yeah...no
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If you knew the bible my friend, you would know cops are referred to in Romans Chapter 13 and kinda spoke highly of... have a wonderful day and thank you for your thoughtful, spirit filled response. :)
yeah i read about your kind in the bible
roman soldiers who crucified christ
obey the money changers...
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yeah...no
Lulz i read that too and was like "ummm, right..."
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Wars and battles have to be put in context in the time they took place in. A mistake many people make is that they place modern day values on past events.
The Crusaders did do some bad shit (as all armies will unavoidably do) but society overall was unspeakably brutal back then. The armies in which the Crusaders fought against were equally as brutal too.
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yeah i read about your kind in the bible
roman soldiers who crucified christ
obey the money changers...
For he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
Romans 13:1-14 ESV / 144 helpful votes HelpfulNot Helpful
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...
Oh yea of closed mind and limited understanding.. I shake the sand from my sandals..
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For he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
Romans 13:1-14 ESV / 144 helpful votes HelpfulNot Helpful
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...
Oh yea of closed mind and limited understanding.. I shake the sand from my sandals..
you sound like a stupid fundamentalist
dumb dumb dumb
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you sound like a stupid fundamentalist
dumb dumb dumb
I hope I am able to rise to the level of intelligence you have demonstrated when I say sincerely and with love.. you seem pretty stupid.
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I hope I am able to rise to the level of intelligence you have demonstrated when I say sincerely and with love.. you seem pretty stupid.
YOU PROBABLY DESCENDED FROM RELIGIOUS WHACKOS
which is why you are so moronic and evil
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YOU PROBABLY DESCENDED FROM RELIGIOUS WHACKOS
which is why you are so moronic and evil
OTH speaks of getting rid of some of the trolls on GB to clean up the juvenile clutter yet you remain. This is quite the mystery. Perhaps god is watching over you
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OTH speaks of getting rid of some of the trolls on GB to clean up the juvenile clutter yet you remain. This is quite the mystery. Perhaps god is watching over you
now you believe
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now you believe
Yes, I believe you are a juvenile troll cluttering up the board.
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muscleman-2013, will you please make your font a little bigger? I can't see it.
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Yes, I believe you are a juvenile troll cluttering up the board.
don't you have someone to beat up this afternoon?
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This man used his bicep supination machine to travel through space and time and witnessed the crusades himself
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
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don't you have someone to beat up this afternoon?
Just you... but I'm growing weary.. fish in a barrel loses it's entertainment value quickly
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Just you... but I'm growing weary.. fish in a barrel loses it's entertainment value quickly
you got some drug pay offs to collect today?
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you got some drug pay offs to collect today?
That's always on the 15th.
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That's always on the 15th.
:D
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Or you get some christian defending slavery and creating this image that slavery was "different" back then, they treated them wonderfully, forgetting that the bible says God told Moses, "You can beat your male or female slave with a rod, as long as you don't kill them... because they are you're property.
que MOS with the apologetic explanation that slavery back then wasn't really slavery...
Nah, I've already posted the apologetic explanation that answers your objection on a few occasions.
You read it, don't like that I can answer it and simply discard it.....simple as that. Why post it yet again? Just Matthew 7:6.
Now if someone else wants to discuss that's altogether different.
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Sorry, but you pitch a non christian a soft ball, he's gonna knock it out of the park.. Noah's ark is a soft ball, much like the sun stopping in the sky for a battle, dead saints rising from their graves and walking throught the city.. a man dying on the cross and rising from the dead 3 days later, plagues that kill all the cattle.. several times, walking on water, heaven is in the sky, a place like hell,
stepping off soap box.. :)
To be very honest, I've never seen you knock anything out of the park.....you do hit a ton of very solid foul balls though.
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To be very honest, I've never seen you knock anything out of the park.....you do hit a ton of very solid foul balls though.
Of course he hits "foul balls" and you always hit "home runs?" Here, I just took your post and changed a few words. See, it works both ways.
I sometimes forget you're a theist and that you just "get stuff" the rest of us don't. Arguing with me must feel like arguing with a child LOL...sorry about that.
You'll have to forgive me, but I forget you've already worked out the "problem of God and religion".....among other things, including just about every important question in life.
I think Ron should get a programmer that could somehow take whatever posts you put up in whatever board they originate and have them be copied and routed to a new MOS board.....the "MOS Compendium Board-Why theists are always right and atheists always hit 'foul balls' "! Or maybe make your post history a new board right under the G&O!! Got a question about something? Consult the compendium.....all the answers are there!
You must have JOJ traps (bb related) to hold up that big, powerful, knowledge-filled brain! My traps have always been a lagging bodypart.....kinda makes sense, right? Hey, I don't know if it does, you tell me LOL.
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Of course he hits "foul balls" and you always hit "home runs?" Here, I just took your post and changed a few words. See, it works both ways.
I sometimes forget you're a theist and that you just "get stuff" the rest of us don't. Arguing with me must feel like arguing with a child LOL...sorry about that.
You'll have to forgive me, but I forget you've already worked out the "problem of God and religion".....among other things, including just about every important question in life.
I think Ron should get a programmer that could somehow take whatever posts you put up in whatever board they originate and have them be copied and routed to a new MOS board.....the "MOS Compendium Board-Why theists are always right and atheists always hit 'foul balls' "! Or maybe make your post history a new board right under the G&O!! Got a question about something? Consult the compendium.....all the answers are there!
You must have JOJ traps (bb related) to hold up that big, powerful, knowledge-filled brain! My traps have always been a lagging bodypart.....kinda makes sense, right? Hey, I don't know if it does, you tell me LOL.
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See, this is the difference. I acknowledge that I don't have the answers to many important questions in life.
Whereas, you state with certainty that you know all the answers because of your religion (like all other religions), , i.e., "I know the nature of the universe," "I know what it means to lead a good life." Maybe you can contact all those damn scientists and ethics professors since you have all the answers haha lol.
So, lets take a step back and really examine who claims to have all the answers? ::) ::)
So, please, tell me all the answers to life, since you obviously have one-up on me for believing and God and I am just a lost "soul" haha LOL!!
Excerpts from 3 different posts in 3 different threads with 3 different people:
Genuine believers have doubts and questions about parts of scripture or the nature of God, but not about God's reality in general. There's nothing wrong with not understanding something or not having thorough and complete answers to theological questions. I'm in a life's pursuit to better understand God and today I don't always have the answers.....there's plenty of time that I just don't know things, but that's ok. When we admit we don't know it can put us on a path to learn way more than we ever considered.
I’m humble enough to admit that I don’t have all the answers and believe me that coming to terms with this is not something I take lightly (it shakes some believers to their core and others to cry "heresy!!"), but like others I will continue to search out answers honestly and proactively. I’m simply willing to examine both secular science and theology and do so with an attitude of learning and humility.
My suggestion is to start with simple prayer and even consider reading some scripture. Again I would suggest reading the gospel of John, the book of Acts and Paul’s letter to the Romans in the New Testament…all three are back to back in the bible. Pray before reading and ask God to help reveal himself to you in his word and then pray after about that scripture read. Christ is the narrow gate to salvation, but we must willing to even baby step our way through that gate initially…even those baby steps can be a leap. Certainly I’m willing to speak to you and I know others are as well. I don’t have all the answers, but I am willing to help however I can. I know that you don’t know me and I also don’t know you, but I can tell you that I care about you and I care about what you’ve expressed already.
We've stepped back now....so who claims to have all the answers? I certainly don't....that's just 3 posts out of the last 3 years. I don't how many posts there have been in which I state the same.
Today you attempt to refute virtually every religious post I make. You tell me why my answer is wrong or flawed and then you give me your position which you believe to be better or superior.
I don't do that to you.
Further, agnostic can speak for himself....he doesn't need your help....he's a big boy. :)
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Man of Steel & SF1900 - you're both good dudes in my book but the constant tit for tat debates you have over religion are boring as fuck.
Just agree to disagree and move on. Nobody fucking cares.
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Man of Steel & SF1900 - you're both good dudes in my book but the constant tit for tat debates you have over religion are boring as fuck.
Just agree to disagree and move on. Nobody fucking cares.
x2 ;D ;D
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the crusades were a failure, the christians were more backwards at the time
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Just agree to disagree and move on.
I've tried this....repeatedly....di dn't work.
If only there were a religion board for this stuff....someone should propose that:
If only we had a "Religion Board". Seems to me if we had a religion board to house this stuff the problem would be solved.
Someone should propose that.
Ron provided a board for it so use it. ;)
Then the G&O won't be cluttered with religious debate.
yep, 2 big religion threads on the G&O this week and nothing on the actual religion board
:)
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the crusades were a failure, the christians were more backwards at the time
The dark ages were not as backward as often potrayed.
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I've tried this....repeatedly....di dn't work.
If only there were a religion board for this stuff....someone should propose that:
:)
Yeah, tbf, I get the idea you don't really enjoy these arguments but just get sucked into them.
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Yeah, tbf, I get the idea you don't really enjoy these arguments but just get sucked into them.
Yes there's some truth there. Often times I ignore a lot of stuff....even stuff directed at me. I'm "meh" to most of it.
Then there are other times when I choose to defend my faith and dig in. I can literally here people's groans and eye rolls through my monitor when I do LOL!!
I only start "religious threads" on the religion board unless I start a thread on the G&O asking folks to keep religion threads on the religion board.
Today the vast majority of my religious discussion is on the G&O and again the vast majority of my replies are "in response" to something or someone.
Yes, there are times when I share my faith in a non-religious thread.
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I'm not saying you are all wrong and it was Aliens...
But you are all wrong and it was aliens.
And oh yeah... We stopped the Crusades too soon. We stopped fighting and these animals never did.
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To be very honest, I've never seen you knock anything out of the park.....you do hit a ton of very solid foul balls though.
That's pretty funny... you have a pretty decent sense of humor
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That's pretty funny... you have a pretty decent sense of humor
I try ;)
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This man used his bicep supination machine to travel through space and time and witnessed the crusades himself
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
Very ancient image, could be from Roman time ;D
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I hope I am able to rise to the level of intelligence you have demonstrated when I say sincerely and with love.. you seem pretty stupid.
Verily.
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People!