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Title: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 09:58:33 AM
Don't know if you have read return of the kings website, but this guy is basically a getbigger, says fat women are disgusting, most women are hoes etc.Today he is on Dr Oz in the USA to express his views.

Article he has written previously on Dr Oz

http://www.returnofkings.com/7074/dr-oz-is-a-pussy

Preview

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-oz-faces-notorious-online-fat-shamer-bullying-women-all-over-world

The guys views on being in the show

http://www.rooshv.com/how-i-was-backstabbed-by-dr-oz-and-his-female-producers?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 10:05:13 AM
Im surprised Dr. Oz had him on, despite the guys negative views of him. Should be interesting.

Though to be honest, this guy Roosh definitely has his own issues.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 10:10:24 AM
I don't think fat shaming will change behavior. On the other hand, how to get people to "wake up" is beyond me. :/

But I do agree that the obesity problem is out of control in this country. Furthermore, the excuse, "Its genetic" seems to be an excuse.

From the Harvard School of Public Health

Genes Are Not Destiny

Heredity plays a role in obesity but generally to a much lesser degree than many people might believe. Rather than being obesity’s sole cause, genes seem to increase the risk of weight gain and interact with other risk factors in the environment, such as unhealthy diets and inactive lifestyles. And healthy lifestyles can counteract these genetic effects.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 10:26:05 AM
Im surprised Dr. Oz had him on, despite the guys negative views of him. Should be interesting.

Though to be honest, this guy Roosh definitely has his own issues.

Its on in 30 minutes I believe, but he wont get anywhere, shows are too setup and craftily edited.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: ritch on April 28, 2015, 10:57:46 AM
starting to think it's fake now, hard to say...
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: f450 on April 28, 2015, 11:28:23 AM
Roosh on national TV? well dang the guy has come far. I remember when he was just another nobody internet PUA. Kudos to him.

Dr OZ sucks btw. fucking charlatan.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
Roosh on national TV? well dang the guy has come far. I remember when he was just another nobody internet PUA. Kudos to him.

Dr OZ sucks btw. fucking charlatan.

The episode

Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 12:53:46 PM
The episode



As stated, hes a bit crazy as well. He is the guy who also stated that rape should be legal to stop rape. He clearly has issues himself.

And I dont agree that shaming someone will change behavior. And the evidence shows this, unless Roosh can produce other evidence.

However, I do not agree with the "its okay to be overweight" culture that we live in. It will only destroy societies/communities, i.e., physical and emotional health, psychological health, not to mention the cost of medical bills, etc.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:10:48 PM
As stated, hes a bit crazy as well. He is the guy who also stated that rape should be legal to stop rape. He clearly has issues himself.

And I dont agree that shaming someone will change behavior. And the evidence shows this, unless Roosh can produce other evidence.

However, I do not agree with the "its okay to be overweight" culture that we live in. It will only destroy societies/communities, i.e., physical and emotional health, psychological health, not to mention the cost of medical bills, etc.
I disagree.  First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them.  Why should anyone try?  Its their choice.  Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly. 

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso?  It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 01:15:45 PM
I disagree.  First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them.  Why should anyone try?  Its their choice.  Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly. 

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso?  It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

I'll never understand why its ok to make fun of shortness, baldness, big nose etc but the second you hate on fatness, or make a joke about race then its totally wrong.If its not ok for 1 of the above then it shouldn't be ok for any of it.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:20:01 PM
I'll never understand why its ok to make fun of shortness, baldness, big nose etc but the second you hate on fatness, or make a joke about race then its totally wrong.If its not ok for 1 of the above then it shouldn't be ok for any of it.
I think it should be ok for all all of it only.  I would never say that it should be one or the other.  Why would you want it to be not ok for any of it?  Why even float that idea?
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 01:22:26 PM
I think it should be ok for all all of it only.  I would never say that it should be one or the other.  Why would you want it to be not ok for any of it?  Why even float that idea?

I'm not, I agree with you, but if you are going to take the opposite stance, it needs to be for all of it.The current stance makes no sense to me and seems hugely hypocritical.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:23:24 PM
I'm not, I agree with you, but if you are going to take the opposite stance, it needs to be for all of it.The current stance makes no sense to me and seems hugely hypocritical.
No it doesn't.  Because if you give that option, you will be effectively be worse off than you started. 
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: el numero uno on April 28, 2015, 01:33:16 PM
I disagree.  First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them.  Why should anyone try?  Its their choice.  Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly. 

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso?  It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

Do you realize tax payers end up paying for fatsos' medical treatment?
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: thegamechanger on April 28, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
he doesnt have a problem with fat women, he has a problem with women period.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
Do you realize tax payers end up paying for fatsos' medical treatment?
Actually, in the long run it would be much cheaper to have them obese as they die earlier.  The majority of medical expenses occur in advanced age and at the end of life stage, so it is in effect a money saving measure to keep them obese.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
I disagree.  First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them.  Why should anyone try?  Its their choice.  Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly. 

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso?  It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

Of course there are exceptions to every rule. My statement was more of a general one. Fat shaming may help some people, but much of the evidence suggests otherwise. And I know you're a man who follows the evidence, correct? Oz produced 50 journal articles, I am assuming which are peer-reviewed. I will not waste my time looking for those articles, as its not too important for me. This is only a discussion on getbig.

I never said people should not be allowed to make fun of someone who is fat. When did I say that? I just said that fat shaming, overall, will most likely not change behavior. But people are protected under the first amendment to make fun of whoever they want to.

At the end of the day, I am in shape and take care of my body. I hope others will do the same, especially those who are unhealthy due to being overweight.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: el numero uno on April 28, 2015, 01:42:28 PM
Actually, in the long run it would be much cheaper to have them obese as they die earlier.  The majority of medical expenses occur in advanced age and at the end of life stage, so it is in effect a money saving measure to keep them obese.

I'm not sure it works like that. Plus, a fatso is usually not a productive member of society. There are fat taxes in some countries already.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
Of course there are exceptions to every rule. My statement was more of a general one. Fat shaming may help some people, but much of the evidence suggests otherwise. And I know you're a man who follows the evidence, correct? Oz produced 50 journal articles, I am assuming which are peer-reviewed. I will not waste my time looking for those articles, as its not too important for me. This is only a discussion on getbig.

I never said people should not be allowed to make fun of someone who is fat. When did I say that? I just said that fat shaming, overall, will most likely not change behavior. But people are protected under the first amendment to make fun of whoever they want to.

At the end of the day, I am in shape and take care of my body. I hope others will do the same, especially those who are unhealthy due to being overweight.
The military fat shames men and women and has a 100 percent success rate in reducing their weight to acceptable standards in basic training.  Why do you suppose it works so well?
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: thegamechanger on April 28, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
of course fat shaming will help people! so will bullying people in general, racist slurs, gaybashing etc this straightens people up everytime!!

Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 01:49:36 PM
The military fat shames men and women and has a 100 percent success rate in reducing their weight to acceptable standards in basic training.  Why do you suppose it works so well?

Don't know. Different local cultures ::shrugs::
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: thegamechanger on April 28, 2015, 02:00:21 PM
the nazis had a 100 percent success rate at reducing concentration camp victims weight too.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 02:04:19 PM
the nazis had a 100 percent success rate at reducing concentration camp victims weight too.
So we agree that obesity is solely a condition of choice, but yet wants to exist without scrutiny.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: thegamechanger on April 28, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
it would be difficult to be obese under curtain circumstances.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Earl1972 on April 28, 2015, 03:52:53 PM
what did he expect to accomplish by going on this show?  all you have to do is watch one episode and you know you're going to be attacked by 200 people while you sit there all by yourself defenseless, did he expect good publicity from this show? 

doctor oz is a sell out, any legit doctor not trying to cater to a delusional female audience would say these women are very unhealthy

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Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 03:59:04 PM
what did he expect to accomplish by going on this show?  all you have to do is watch one episode and you know you're going to be attacked by 200 people while you sit there all by yourself defenseless, did he expect good publicity from this show? 

doctor oz is a sell out, any legit doctor not trying to cater to a delusional female audience would say these women are very unhealthy

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Dr. Oz has been under scrutiny before (in front of congress). He tries to act as an expert on diet and nutrition, which is out of the scope of his practice.

I wonder how Kevin Kevrone would have handled the matter. I mean, I don't know, I am just asking a question. Kevin may have had a better response, given his bodybuilding background.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: bradistani on April 28, 2015, 03:59:48 PM
Don't know if you have read return of the kings website, but this guy is basically a getbigger, says fat women are disgusting, most women are hoes etc.Today he is on Dr Oz in the USA to express his views.



and that make's one 'alpha' ???
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 04:05:38 PM
and that make's one 'alpha' ???

We all know your feminist ways by now
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Hulkotron on April 28, 2015, 04:06:16 PM
So we agree that obesity is solely a condition of choice, but yet wants to exist without scrutiny.

spot on
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Parker on April 28, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
Dr. Oz has been under scrutiny before (in front of congress). He tries to act as an expert on diet and nutrition, which is out of the scope of his practice.

I wonder how Kevin Kevrone would have handled the matter. I mean, I don't know, I am just asking a question. Kevin may have had a better response, given his bodybuilding background.
I think it's also because he advocates alternative medicine.
Not everything can be pill based. And that can rankle some big pharm companies...
Think about, if more people ate less unhealthy foods, moved more, there would be less type 2 diabetes, and less people taking meds for it. That hurts the bottom line for pharm companies that make the medication.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
I think it's also because he advocates alternative medicine.
Not everything can be pill based. And that can rankle some big pharm companies...
Think about, if more people ate less unhealthy foods, moved more, there would be less type 2 diabetes, and less people taking meds for it. That hurts the bottom line for pharm companies that make the medication.

Yes, hes also been criticized for that as well. Dr. Phil has also been criticized for acting as a diet and nutritionist.

It had nothing to do with eating healthier and "moving." Millions of doctors tell their clients the same thing every day (eat healthier and exercise)..  People like Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil promote bullshit "fixes" just to get ratings and make money. And given the fact that they are "celebrities" and are reaching a wider audience, they are going to be criticized and called out for their bullshit.
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Parker on April 28, 2015, 04:15:32 PM
Yes, hes also been criticized for that as well. Dr. Phil has also been criticized for acting as a diet and nutritionist.

It had nothing to do with eating healthier and "moving." Millions of doctors tell their clients the same thing every day (eat healthier and exercise)..  People like Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil promote bullshit "fixes" just to get ratings and make money. And given the fact that they are "celebrities" and are reaching a wider audience, they are going to be criticized and called out for their bullshit.
fair enough...
Why you gotta put Dr. Phil in this? :'(  ???
He'd clean up on Getbig...
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Hulkotron on April 28, 2015, 04:15:40 PM
Dr. Phil is obese

Dr. Oz is an ay-rab

Neither are to be trusted
Title: Re: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties
Post by: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
Fatties invading this guys Facebook page and giving legitimate reasons why they stuffed their face

"That fat shaming guy on the show was horrible. He has no idea what each person goes through. I used to be very fit. I was raped. I was made to go through the court & everyone knew. It was mortifying. last year someone tried to break into our house & I have been scared since. I rarely leave, so I can stay hidden & protect my family. No one ever found who did that. I began eating more & not working out anymore b/c I didn't want to leave the house unprotected. I gained a lot of weight. I am trying to fight my way back from this. What that guy thins is coming from the brain of a retard who knows nothing about helping people, only hurting."