Author Topic: another alpha like protein ceo guy says it how it is to fatties (Read 6184 times)

Army of One · « **on:** April 28, 2015, 09:58:33 AM »

Don't know if you have read return of the kings website, but this guy is basically a getbigger, says fat women are disgusting, most women are hoes etc.Today he is on Dr Oz in the USA to express his views.

Article he has written previously on Dr Oz

http://www.returnofkings.com/7074/dr-oz-is-a-pussy

Preview

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-oz-faces-notorious-online-fat-shamer-bullying-women-all-over-world

The guys views on being in the show

http://www.rooshv.com/how-i-was-backstabbed-by-dr-oz-and-his-female-producers?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

SF1900 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:05:13 AM »

Im surprised Dr. Oz had him on, despite the guys negative views of him. Should be interesting.

Though to be honest, this guy Roosh definitely has his own issues.

SF1900 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:10:24 AM »

I don't think fat shaming will change behavior. On the other hand, how to get people to "wake up" is beyond me. :/

But I do agree that the obesity problem is out of control in this country. Furthermore, the excuse, "Its genetic" seems to be an excuse.

From the Harvard School of Public Health

Genes Are Not Destiny

Heredity plays a role in obesity but generally to a much lesser degree than many people might believe. Rather than being obesity’s sole cause, genes seem to increase the risk of weight gain and interact with other risk factors in the environment, such as unhealthy diets and inactive lifestyles. And healthy lifestyles can counteract these genetic effects.

Army of One · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:26:05 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 10:05:13 AM

Im surprised Dr. Oz had him on, despite the guys negative views of him. Should be interesting.

Though to be honest, this guy Roosh definitely has his own issues.

Its on in 30 minutes I believe, but he wont get anywhere, shows are too setup and craftily edited.

ritch · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:57:46 AM »

starting to think it's fake now, hard to say...

f450 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:28:23 AM »

Roosh on national TV? well dang the guy has come far. I remember when he was just another nobody internet PUA. Kudos to him.

Dr OZ sucks btw. fucking charlatan.

Army of One · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:44:16 PM »

Quote from: f450 on April 28, 2015, 11:28:23 AM

Roosh on national TV? well dang the guy has come far. I remember when he was just another nobody internet PUA. Kudos to him.

Dr OZ sucks btw. fucking charlatan.

The episode

SF1900 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:53:46 PM »

Quote from: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 12:44:16 PM

The episode

As stated, hes a bit crazy as well. He is the guy who also stated that rape should be legal to stop rape. He clearly has issues himself.

And I dont agree that shaming someone will change behavior. And the evidence shows this, unless Roosh can produce other evidence.

However, I do not agree with the "its okay to be overweight" culture that we live in. It will only destroy societies/communities, i.e., physical and emotional health, psychological health, not to mention the cost of medical bills, etc.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:10:48 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 12:53:46 PM

As stated, hes a bit crazy as well. He is the guy who also stated that rape should be legal to stop rape. He clearly has issues himself.

And I dont agree that shaming someone will change behavior. And the evidence shows this, unless Roosh can produce other evidence.

However, I do not agree with the "its okay to be overweight" culture that we live in. It will only destroy societies/communities, i.e., physical and emotional health, psychological health, not to mention the cost of medical bills, etc.

I disagree. First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them. Why should anyone try? Its their choice. Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly.

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso? It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

Army of One · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:15:45 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:10:48 PM

I disagree. First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them. Why should anyone try? Its their choice. Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly.

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso? It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

I'll never understand why its ok to make fun of shortness, baldness, big nose etc but the second you hate on fatness, or make a joke about race then its totally wrong.If its not ok for 1 of the above then it shouldn't be ok for any of it.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 01:15:45 PM

I'll never understand why its ok to make fun of shortness, baldness, big nose etc but the second you hate on fatness, or make a joke about race then its totally wrong.If its not ok for 1 of the above then it shouldn't be ok for any of it.

I think it should be ok for all all of it only. I would never say that it should be one or the other. Why would you want it to be not ok for any of it? Why even float that idea?

Army of One · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:22:26 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:20:01 PM

I think it should be ok for all all of it only. I would never say that it should be one or the other. Why would you want it to be not ok for any of it? Why even float that idea?

I'm not, I agree with you, but if you are going to take the opposite stance, it needs to be for all of it.The current stance makes no sense to me and seems hugely hypocritical.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:23:24 PM »

Quote from: Army of One on April 28, 2015, 01:22:26 PM

I'm not, I agree with you, but if you are going to take the opposite stance, it needs to be for all of it.The current stance makes no sense to me and seems hugely hypocritical.

No it doesn't. Because if you give that option, you will be effectively be worse off than you started.

el numero uno · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:33:16 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:10:48 PM

I disagree. First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them. Why should anyone try? Its their choice. Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly.

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso? It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

Do you realize tax payers end up paying for fatsos' medical treatment?

thegamechanger · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:37:57 PM »

he doesnt have a problem with fat women, he has a problem with women period.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:38:00 PM »

Quote from: el numero uno on April 28, 2015, 01:33:16 PM

Do you realize tax payers end up paying for fatsos' medical treatment?

Actually, in the long run it would be much cheaper to have them obese as they die earlier. The majority of medical expenses occur in advanced age and at the end of life stage, so it is in effect a money saving measure to keep them obese.

SF1900 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:39:26 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:10:48 PM

I disagree. First, I don't care if someone is obese and do not want to do anything to help them. Why should anyone try? Its their choice. Fat Shaming is just critiquing their appearance and it will work for some most certainly.

Why should we not be allowed to make fun of someone who chooses to be a fatso? It would be like getting all angry when we offer a critique of a television show or what have you.

Who cares really?

Of course there are exceptions to every rule. My statement was more of a general one. Fat shaming may help some people, but much of the evidence suggests otherwise. And I know you're a man who follows the evidence, correct? Oz produced 50 journal articles, I am assuming which are peer-reviewed. I will not waste my time looking for those articles, as its not too important for me. This is only a discussion on getbig.

I never said people should not be allowed to make fun of someone who is fat. When did I say that? I just said that fat shaming, overall, will most likely not change behavior. But people are protected under the first amendment to make fun of whoever they want to.

At the end of the day, I am in shape and take care of my body. I hope others will do the same, especially those who are unhealthy due to being overweight.

el numero uno · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:42:28 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:38:00 PM

Actually, in the long run it would be much cheaper to have them obese as they die earlier. The majority of medical expenses occur in advanced age and at the end of life stage, so it is in effect a money saving measure to keep them obese.

I'm not sure it works like that. Plus, a fatso is usually not a productive member of society. There are fat taxes in some countries already.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:43:06 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on April 28, 2015, 01:39:26 PM

Of course there are exceptions to every rule. My statement was more of a general one. Fat shaming may help some people, but much of the evidence suggests otherwise. And I know you're a man who follows the evidence, correct? Oz produced 50 journal articles, I am assuming which are peer-reviewed. I will not waste my time looking for those articles, as its not too important for me. This is only a discussion on getbig.

I never said people should not be allowed to make fun of someone who is fat. When did I say that? I just said that fat shaming, overall, will most likely not change behavior. But people are protected under the first amendment to make fun of whoever they want to.

At the end of the day, I am in shape and take care of my body. I hope others will do the same, especially those who are unhealthy due to being overweight.

The military fat shames men and women and has a 100 percent success rate in reducing their weight to acceptable standards in basic training. Why do you suppose it works so well?

thegamechanger · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:43:35 PM »

of course fat shaming will help people! so will bullying people in general, racist slurs, gaybashing etc this straightens people up everytime!!

SF1900 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:49:36 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on April 28, 2015, 01:43:06 PM

The military fat shames men and women and has a 100 percent success rate in reducing their weight to acceptable standards in basic training. Why do you suppose it works so well?

Don't know. Different local cultures ::shrugs::

thegamechanger · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2015, 02:00:21 PM »

the nazis had a 100 percent success rate at reducing concentration camp victims weight too.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2015, 02:04:19 PM »

Quote from: thegamechanger on April 28, 2015, 02:00:21 PM

the nazis had a 100 percent success rate at reducing concentration camp victims weight too.

So we agree that obesity is solely a condition of choice, but yet wants to exist without scrutiny.

thegamechanger · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2015, 02:06:21 PM »

it would be difficult to be obese under curtain circumstances.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2015, 03:52:53 PM »

what did he expect to accomplish by going on this show? all you have to do is watch one episode and you know you're going to be attacked by 200 people while you sit there all by yourself defenseless, did he expect good publicity from this show?

doctor oz is a sell out, any legit doctor not trying to cater to a delusional female audience would say these women are very unhealthy

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