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Title: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Royal Lion on May 19, 2015, 05:02:48 PM


Strong dudes
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Thong Maniac on May 19, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
He needs a shirt to say how big his arms are? Man these people are so fucked
Mentally i will never understand it. He aint 18, hes an adult male. Beyond my comprehension
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Marty Champions on May 19, 2015, 05:22:46 PM
They just need a liittle more vitamins
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: da_vinci on May 19, 2015, 05:27:04 PM
Pretty awesome and inspiring.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 19, 2015, 05:30:49 PM
Would be only be putting 40% of that weight if they were natty.

Efferding looks way better at this lighter bodyweight.  Go look at some of his older training vids on YT... looks like his head is ready to explode.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 19, 2015, 05:38:06 PM
Fuckin' haters. Guys always bitch (like me) if they're too fat or too weak. Well here, we got two guys halling major ass who look the part.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: WalterWhite on May 19, 2015, 05:43:35 PM
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Post by: Kwon_2 on May 19, 2015, 05:54:33 PM
Awesome and Inspiring!
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Royal Lion on May 19, 2015, 06:11:36 PM
500 lbs for that many reps is impressive any way you slice it.  Nice to see a competition that combines strength with having a quality physique. More interesting than shredded glutes in a sparkly thong or super strong fatties.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 19, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
500 lbs for that many reps is impressive any way you slice it.  Nice to see a competition that combines strength with having a quality physique. More interesting than shredded glutes in a sparkly thong or super strong fatties.

Could be the future of how they compete, like in the old days. Was not a bad approach.

FuckiN' Heath would NEVER be MrO under those conditions....
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: warez4gold on May 19, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
big gay moen here
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Parker on May 19, 2015, 09:08:02 PM
Could be the future of how they compete, like in the old days. Was not a bad approach.

FuckiN' Heath would NEVER be MrO under those conditions....
I think you should check his bench press vid before he was Mr. O. The how many reps with 225 contest.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 19, 2015, 09:46:27 PM
I think you should check his bench press vid before he was Mr. O. The how many reps with 225 contest.

1st the squat off was sweet.

2nd Parker I just watched the video of that. It's funny because Heath didn't to a full  extension and Freeman never had the bar touch his chest ( not knocking either technique, in that type of rep contest that's what you'd want to do).

Why couldn't Freeman ever get his triceps to grow, Royalty aren't you boys with Jeremy?
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: G_Thang on May 19, 2015, 10:43:45 PM
two old phucks suffering from mental disease. guaranteed they were icing down their knees in the hotel.  isn't stan worth 9 figures?  why is he risking his health like don youngblood?  mike has to do this shit til he is 70 to pay his bills.  
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 19, 2015, 10:50:17 PM
I think you should check his bench press vid before he was Mr. O. The how many reps with 225 contest.

think he got like 5 full reps.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 19, 2015, 11:53:12 PM
two old phucks suffering from mental disease. guaranteed they were icing down their knees in the hotel.  isn't stan worth 9 figures?  why is he risking his health like don youngblood?  mike has to do this shit til he is 70 to pay his bills.  

Feel free to post up a video and compare yourself or shut the fuck up. That was legit anyway you look at it. Pretty sure Ohearn trains at like 5am at Golds. Jump in and see if you can make it through his warm up. Moron
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: thegamechanger on May 19, 2015, 11:58:28 PM
where is the video of the leg extension off  ???
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Croatch on May 20, 2015, 12:00:44 AM
They should have thrown Piana in the mix.  He could have brought his special plates and grunt face to the table.  3 million views easy.
O'hearn is a tremendous natural...hanging in there with Stan, who is a heavy juicer for years.  How does he do it?
O'hearn has crazy genetics, work ethic, and strength...but why the chronic natural talk.  It's laughable.  And leave the dogs at home.  Just odd.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 20, 2015, 12:26:20 AM
Feel free to post up a video and compare yourself or shut the fuck up. That was legit anyway you look at it. Pretty sure Ohearn trains at like 5am at Golds. Jump in and see if you can make it through his warm up. Moron

Fat old guys with location problems sure are vocal. Fuck you, punk.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: da_vinci on May 20, 2015, 12:54:10 AM
Some of you will never be satisfied, smh.. For me it was a lot more interesting to watch than gay posing on the stage,as someone mentioned already. Crazy strength at that condition. And if you dont understand why are they doing this, I guess you,ve never been a strength athlete to begin with.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: irishdave on May 20, 2015, 01:52:32 AM
feckin' hell I'm going to the squat rack right now, motivating stuff
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Bevo on May 20, 2015, 02:07:51 AM
500 lbs for that many reps is impressive any way you slice it.  Nice to see a competition that combines strength with having a quality physique. More interesting than shredded glutes in a sparkly thong or super strong fatties.


Surprised both didn't get more reps with 500. Jose would do 500 for 10 reps 1 wk out from contest, kulco would do 10+ as well

Either way strong as heck but clearly goes to show mike and Stan were always fast explosive one rep max strong

Mike in person imo is very impressive, always trains like a mad man

Levrone and obviously Ronnie could challenge in their prime
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: da_vinci on May 20, 2015, 02:09:21 AM
I've just noticed tha they did not use a belt either.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: thegamechanger on May 20, 2015, 02:28:57 AM
Some of you will never be satisfied, smh.. For me it was a lot more interesting to watch than gay posing on the stage,as someone mentioned already.

you are weird
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Svengoolie on May 20, 2015, 02:32:05 AM
I've just noticed tha they did not use a belt either.

From what I recall, he's if the 'belts weaken your lower back' school of thought
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: thegamechanger on May 20, 2015, 02:35:32 AM
lack of style not having a belt with your name on the back. never see stylish lifters like levrone etc without a belt, they know the gym is like a fashion show.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: da_vinci on May 20, 2015, 03:25:35 AM
you are weird

You are right.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 20, 2015, 03:36:04 AM
Feel free to post up a video and compare yourself or shut the fuck up. That was legit anyway you look at it. Pretty sure Ohearn trains at like 5am at Golds. Jump in and see if you can make it through his warm up. Moron

 :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: simon on May 20, 2015, 04:07:31 AM
no knee wraps or sleeves makes it much more impressive.  it changes everything. 
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Rambone on May 20, 2015, 04:57:27 AM
Whoa! What a stare down!
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Julio Ceasar on May 20, 2015, 05:13:46 AM
Ugliest squats i never seen!

What about tom platz 23 reps with straight back haha!

Or any natioal weight lifter...

These men are not impressive!
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: G_Thang on May 20, 2015, 05:16:30 AM
Feel free to post up a video and compare yourself or shut the fuck up. That was legit anyway you look at it. Pretty sure Ohearn trains at like 5am at Golds. Jump in and see if you can make it through his warm up. Moron

great response from one of getbig's career addicts.  

 ::)

I'll need about one year of irreversible heart and organ damage first.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: falco on May 20, 2015, 05:25:55 AM
I thought they were going to kiss each other at minute 2:45.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 20, 2015, 05:33:24 AM
Good stuff, like Efferding and O'hearn  except for that fake staredown.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Bevo on May 20, 2015, 05:33:50 AM
great response from one of getbig's career addicts.  

 ::)

I'll need about one year of irreversible heart and organ damage first.

Judging by most of your posts u have a head start already with irreversible brain damage :D
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: falco on May 20, 2015, 05:42:26 AM
This was not a fare fight. O'hearn only uses natural steroids.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2015, 05:43:18 AM
Fat old guys with location problems sure are vocal. Fuck you, punk.

THE BEEF

Seems I struck a nerve with "the beef". Oooo..
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Rambone on May 20, 2015, 06:11:54 AM
Good stuff, like Efferding and O'hearn  except for that fake staredown.

What are you talking about!? That was the best staredown I've seen since Rocky 4.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hulkotron on May 20, 2015, 06:15:46 AM
This video inspired me to change how I live my life.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Royal Lion on May 20, 2015, 06:58:43 AM
Ugliest squats i never seen!

What about tom platz 23 reps with straight back haha!

Or any natioal weight lifter...

These men are not impressive!

I totally disagree. First, Platz was much shorter than either of these two and had much less ROM. Platz was incredible, but he doesnt make this any less impressive to me. Also, both Ohearn and Efferding are in their late 40s and performed these totally raw (no homo) which makes it all the more impressive.  And most national weightlifters carry a much higher bodyfat level than these two which equates to a strength advantage.

Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 08:42:52 AM
where is the video of the leg extension off  ???

LOL!!!

I was using it that day and told the cock suckers to bugger off as they were not gonna work in with me.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: f450 on May 20, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
lots of weak insecure kids in this thread, hating on impressive feats of strength.

what the fuck are you guys doing on getbig.com isnt there a vegans life extension forum you could go and feel more at home at?
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on May 20, 2015, 09:24:34 AM
Is the Gym Standard anything like the Hustle Standard?
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
They were lucky I was done curling for the day, or that squat area would have been occupied by yours truly...
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: headhuntersix on May 20, 2015, 11:54:56 AM
lots of weak insecure kids in this thread, hating on impressive feats of strength.

what the fuck are you guys doing on getbig.com isnt there a vegans life extension forum you could go and feel more at home at?

Thread over......good shit. These guys get hurt feelings when anybody even mentions squats or deads. Immediate critique of squat depth followed by body fat comment followed by a laundry list of injuries etc etc etc. Stop being a pussy
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: LittleJ on May 20, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
I'm weak on squats
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: headhuntersix on May 20, 2015, 12:15:36 PM
Its all relative....
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: old-school-lifter on May 20, 2015, 07:26:10 PM
LOL

natural liar Ahearn pwning Stan

why does Ahearn wear a mouthguard when he suqats?

Stan not so impressive when he's on lower dose steroids
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 07:47:13 PM
LOL

natural liar Ahearn pwning Stan

why does Ahearn wear a mouthguard when he suqats?


Stan not so impressive when he's on lower dose steroids

it places the jaw in an ideal line, better muscle funtion through neurological tricks. Sounds weird, yes, but I had tests done with and without, better performance with.

But I have yet to use it in the gym, lol! I wear it when I jerk off for harder orgasms.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Mawse on May 20, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
Those were some ugly ass rounding back squats by efferding, id have thought he'd have a much stronger back than that given his PLing numbers.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: James28 on May 20, 2015, 09:35:10 PM
Strong guys but turned it off when Mike stripped into his little hot pants. A 50yo guy in hot pants and backward cap. I don't want it to be gay, but sadly it is.

Don't mind Efferding. Kinda like the old bull
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 20, 2015, 09:43:52 PM
Ugliest squats i never seen!

What about tom platz 23 reps with straight back haha!

Or any natioal weight lifter...

These men are not impressive!

Yes, what was wrong with Efferdings squats? It looked like his body was buckling each time. It looked odd. I cant pinpoint it. Is that an okay way to squat? Serious question.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 09:46:09 PM
Strong guys but turned it off when Mike stripped into his little hot pants. A 50yo guy in hot pants and backward cap. I don't want it to be gay, but sadly it is.

Don't mind Efferding. Kinda like the old bull

I didn't make it that far. I stoped it when he took off his shirt. (10 seconds later) but still, incredible lifts, drugged or not. Could most pro's do that? NO way...
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 20, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
I didn't make it that far. I stoped it when he took off his shirt. (10 seconds later) but still, incredible lifts, drugged or not. Could most pro's do that? NO way...

They both stripped down into hot pants.  :D :D
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 09:55:43 PM
They both stripped down into hot pants.  :D :D

Yikes man, too much for me, lol... I found Mike's reps, ok A lot of leaning and very low bar placement. Not bb'er squats at all.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 20, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
Yikes man, too much for me, lol... I found Mike's reps, ok A lot of leaning and very low bar placement. Not bb'er squats at all.

(http://s2.postimg.org/48kikdnop/Screen_Shot_2015_05_21_at_1_01_45_AM.png)
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
(http://s2.postimg.org/48kikdnop/Screen_Shot_2015_05_21_at_1_01_45_AM.png)

Bah, WTF? I thought you guys meant they were stripped down to tights. Fuck man... In little male booty shorts? Efferding?

Fuckin' everything is gay now. The thought of guys in tights was beyond gay to me then I gotta see this shit? I think it's enough internet soon for the day, lol...
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 20, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Bah, WTF? I thought you guys meant they were stripped down to tights. Fuck man... In little male booty shorts? Efferding?

Fuckin' everything is gay now. The thought of guys in tights was beyond gay to me then I gotta see this shit? I think it's enough internet soon for the day, lol...

Nope, not tights. More along the lines of these:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ff/5d/66/ff5d66dddda49ce16f6f3b1a101d5a5c.jpg)

I am unsure why they couldnt squat in jogging pants   :-\
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: ritch on May 20, 2015, 10:12:22 PM
Nope, not tights. More along the lines of these:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ff/5d/66/ff5d66dddda49ce16f6f3b1a101d5a5c.jpg)

I am unsure why they couldnt squat in jogging pants   :-\

they should just have the guys pose in those. But never thought I'd see a pic of Kai and think he looks less gay than the previous pic shown. That is how gay that still pic shot was to me!
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 20, 2015, 10:25:09 PM
Like someone said earlier, many guys here will never be satisfied. :-\
Guys cry about Heath's weak ass half squats and machine "bench presses" but when
someone does heavy weights they are stupid for risking injury. Can't win either way. :D

As far as squatting style, it's affected by your structure, it's all genetics pretty much like everything else. You can't squat like Platz if you're not Platz. I think Platz holds squatting seminars sometimes, but the thing is, not one person comes out of his clinic squatting like him unless they already did so.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Marty Champions on May 20, 2015, 10:50:42 PM
Cant wait 4 there tight skirts in part2
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 20, 2015, 11:49:35 PM
Seems I struck a nerve with "the beef". Oooo..

If you keep getting up old-timer, you'll just get embarrassed.

THE BEEF



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Post by: Rod Majors on May 21, 2015, 12:22:40 AM
I think   
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Rod Majors on May 21, 2015, 12:32:04 AM
Cant wait 4 there tight skirts in part2
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brown geyser laxatives
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mobey grape
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moby grape
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Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Bevo on May 21, 2015, 12:42:35 AM
I didn't make it that far. I stoped it when he took off his shirt. (10 seconds later) but still, incredible lifts, drugged or not. Could most pro's do that? NO way...

True I can think of 3 pros currently that could in terms of squats  , branch, kulco, Jose Raymond
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on May 21, 2015, 03:05:18 AM
Haha this culture is such a joke. Humanity is a joke.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: da_vinci on May 21, 2015, 03:48:30 AM
Haha this culture is such a joke. Humanity is a joke.

You are a joke too. And me, and everyone else. Life is a cruel joke.

Let's just laugh.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: The Onion on May 21, 2015, 03:53:16 AM
True I can think of 3 pros currently that could in terms of squats  , branch, kulco, Jose Raymond
You really think Branch could do it?

Maybe before he fell of that horse. He hasn't been the same man since the accident.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: _aj_ on May 21, 2015, 03:56:45 AM
They both had almost identical mechanics in the bottom of the squat. As a guy that lacks the hip mobility to do below-parallel squats, I am always interested in how others accomplish it.

And damn, that O'hearn natty fellow is a good looking man. Nooooooo homoooooooo!
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 04:23:30 AM
Elevate your heals.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 04:40:39 AM
If you keep getting up old-timer, you'll just get embarrassed.

THE BEEF





Whatever you say..lol
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SuperTed on May 21, 2015, 04:40:59 AM
Nice glutes on O'Hearn. No homo.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 21, 2015, 04:52:34 AM
God awful squats
Tom platz is rolling over in his grave

Stan looks like a withered old man without his facial hair

Both of them can go fuck themselves
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on May 21, 2015, 05:27:47 AM
You are a joke too. And me, and everyone else. Life is a cruel joke.

Let's just laugh.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 06:40:44 AM
Whatever you say..lol

Frail minded elderly.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: falco on May 21, 2015, 06:47:49 AM
God awful squats
Tom platz is rolling over in his grave

Stan looks like a withered old man without his facial hair

Both of them can go fuck themselves

I agree, but Platz is still alive hahahaha!
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: thebrink on May 21, 2015, 07:05:08 AM
Could be the future of how they compete, like in the old days. Was not a bad approach.

FuckiN' Heath would NEVER be MrO under those conditions....

Thats the way it should be. It would eliminate about 95% of competitors from the sport.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: latiuss on May 21, 2015, 08:03:44 AM
Dubstep is fucking retarded lmao that intro is the cringiest piece  of shit
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 08:48:19 AM
Frail minded elderly.

THE BEEF

Haha, 53 is hardly elderly unless you're 15.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 08:54:08 AM
Elevate your heals.

THE BEEF

OHearn is going down at least to parallel and Efferding is going below. By saying to elevate their heals after squatting for 25-30 years the same way would be practically useless. They squat just fine. The only time we elevate heals is when we teach a squat or OH squat, (provided they need it) not everyone is built to squat. They are. Both are world record holders. Gimme a break.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: MAXX on May 21, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Like someone said earlier, many guys here will never be satisfied. :-\
Guys cry about Heath's weak ass half squats and machine "bench presses" but when
someone does heavy weights they are stupid for risking injury. Can't win either way. :D

As far as squatting style, it's affected by your structure, it's all genetics pretty much like everything else. You can't squat like Platz if you're not Platz. I think Platz holds squatting seminars sometimes, but the thing is, not one person comes out of his clinic squatting like him unless they already did so.
kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 09:38:59 AM
kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

Not everyone is built to squat.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Meaningless on May 21, 2015, 10:19:19 AM
Th fake natural squatting in nothing but a pair of underpants, oh brother ::)
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SuperTed on May 21, 2015, 10:20:03 AM
Not everyone is built to squat.

I think everyone can squat properly if they start doing so at a very young age and keep it up. However, most guys start training during their mid-late teens, at which point, it becomes more difficult to master the movement if your not structurally built for the lift.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 11:21:19 AM
I think everyone can squat properly if they start doing so at a very young age and keep it up. However, most guys start training during their mid-late teens, at which point, it becomes more difficult to master the movement if your not structurally built for the lift.

Valid point, do you recommend Olympic style lifting for toddlers or should they wait until the 8-11 range before they perfect their squat form for the demanding Internet community?

I'd also recommend that they begin an intense stretching regimen so that they can maintain the flexibility and pliability they have as infants throughout their whole lives.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: thebrink on May 21, 2015, 11:31:14 AM
kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

baloney.

not everyone has stubby legs.

ohearn is tall with long legs and thats how he squats under those conditions.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Neptune100 on May 21, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
Not everyone is built to squat.

Everyone can squat. Crazy to say otherwise.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 12:37:19 PM
Everyone can squat. Crazy to say otherwise.

I think he meant Tom Platz ham to calf range of motion.

Traditionally people in wheel chairs haven't been able to squat or leg press.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 12:41:06 PM
Everyone can squat. Crazy to say otherwise.

Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 12:45:45 PM
Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

Coach, no offense,  but if one thing has been established on this site it's that you barely know what you're talking about when it comes to training. 

You'd be much more respected around here as a faceless gimmick.

 ;)
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: _aj_ on May 21, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

Oh lord, Coach...bringing facts, science and kinesiology to a purse-fight about squats on a bb messageboard? What are you thinking?
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 21, 2015, 03:16:26 PM
kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

Deep yes, but it might look like shit. Not even O'Hearn and Efferding can do a beautiful OL squat like Platz... after decades under the bar. It's not just because Platz says he had OL'ers teaching him at the beginning.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Neptune100 on May 21, 2015, 03:37:42 PM
Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

Not sure if your "not everyone can squat" quote was specific or all inclusive, I didn't read most of this thread.   If you're specifically talking about an ass to grass overhead squat with significant weight then yes you're right. But if we're talking about general bodyweight squatting, of course everyone can. Maybe not to parallel, but humans are built to squat and having been doing so for a million years.   Our ancestors squatted to poop.  Basketball players squat. A "half rep" squat is basically how people jump to begin with. Squatting isn't just going to parallel or below. Anyone should be able to a bodyweight squat.  If thats only a "half rep" its still a squat.   Humans squat.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 21, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
Sitting is the new smoking
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Sitting is the new smoking

LOL
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Havenbull on May 21, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
I think everyone can squat properly if they start doing so at a very young age and keep it up. However, most guys start training during their mid-late teens, at which point, it becomes more difficult to master the movement if your not structurally built for the lift.

HAHAHA so you're saying that if you start squatting at 15 yo, you can never master the squat propertly. 

Oh jesus, good thing most getbiggers start squatting at 11 or 12 yo
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Bevo on May 21, 2015, 04:43:19 PM
HAHAHA so you're saying that if you start squatting at 15 yo, you can never master the squat propertly. 

Oh jesus, good thing most getbiggers start squatting at 11 or 12 yo

Most getbiggers don't even train legs, just ask go4it
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 04:57:04 PM
OHearn is going down at least to parallel and Efferding is going below. By saying to elevate their heals after squatting for 25-30 years the same way would be practically useless. They squat just fine. The only time we elevate heals is when we teach a squat or OH squat, (provided they need it) not everyone is built to squat. They are. Both are world record holders. Gimme a break.

And who the fuck are you? What the fuck qualifies you to teach, douche-bag. THE BEEF was commenting on lack of hip mobility.

You sit on the computer and bitch about losing a lease and then lecture on economics. If you knew anything about commercial leasing and out clauses, you would not be in the situation you are. You are 53 and made a statement along the lines of -I make more in six months flipping tires then you make in one. . . this came out of an " adult "? How fucked up is that? You need to shut your fucken mouth, stop posting pics of skinny boy squatting and know your place in societies pecking order. Karma ( like you ) is a bitch.

If THE BEEF is posting on message boards @ 50 ++ THE BEEF will end it all.

THE BEEF

P.S. Before they reclaim the lease remove the shower and pee cams from the boys locker rooms. It might effect the quality of your sex life, but you may avoid indictment.

 
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 21, 2015, 05:18:14 PM
Most getbiggers don't even train legs, just ask go4it

Girls dont care about legs. dont matter.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:19:44 PM
And who the fuck are you? What the fuck qualifies you to teach, douche-bag. THE BEEF was commenting on lack of hip mobility.

You sit on the computer and bitch about losing a lease and then lecture on economics. If you knew anything about commercial leasing and out clauses, you would not be in the situation you are. You are 53 and made a statement along the lines of -I make more in six months flipping tires then you make in one. . . this came out of an " adult "? How fucked up is that? You need to shut your fucken mouth, stop posting pics of skinny boy squatting and know your place in societies pecking order. Karma ( like you ) is a bitch.

If THE BEEF is posting on message boards @ 50 ++ THE BEEF will end it all.

THE BEEF

P.S. Before they reclaim the lease remove the shower and pee cams from the boys locker rooms. It might effect the quality of your sex life, but you may avoid indictment.

 

And what the fuck qualifies you?? and if you say a degree, I'm going to slap the "the beef" down to a patty of spam.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 06:24:10 PM
And what the fuck qualifies you?? and if you say a degree, I'm going to slap the "the beef" down to a patty of spam.

You just don't get it, do you son?

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2015, 06:25:17 PM
Girls dont care about legs. dont matter.
do u train legs sf??
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:26:24 PM
And who the fuck are you? What the fuck qualifies you to teach, douche-bag. THE BEEF was commenting on lack of hip mobility.

You sit on the computer and bitch about losing a lease and then lecture on economics. If you knew anything about commercial leasing and out clauses, you would not be in the situation you are. You are 53 and made a statement along the lines of -I make more in six months flipping tires then you make in one. . . this came out of an " adult "? How fucked up is that? You need to shut your fucken mouth, stop posting pics of skinny boy squatting and know your place in societies pecking order. Karma ( like you ) is a bitch.

If THE BEEF is posting on message boards @ 50 ++ THE BEEF will end it all.

THE BEEF

P.S. Before they reclaim the lease remove the shower and pee cams from the boys locker rooms. It might effect the quality of your sex life, but you may avoid indictment.

 

on second thought. Just shut the fuck up. Except for being hidden on a bodybuilding board no one knows who the fuck you are.  
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:27:26 PM
You just don't get it, do you son?

THE BEEF

Explain yourself "son" or stfu.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:30:24 PM
BTW, yes. I do know about the out clause. At the end they don't have to have a reason. But as legal as is it, it's bad business.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
And what the fuck qualifies you?? and if you say a degree, I'm going to slap the "the beef" down to a patty of spam.

 A wife who is a doctor and a 20 yr career as a physiotherapist.

Ass clown.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 21, 2015, 06:33:36 PM
do u train legs sf??

Of course. But my calves are total shit, sort of due to circumstances out of my control. But my quads and hams are pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
on second thought. Just shut the fuck up. Except for being hidden on a bodybuilding board no one knows who the fuck you are.  

You actually think???

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:34:30 PM
A wife who is a doctor and a 20 yr career as a physiotherapist.

Ass clown.

THE BEEF

Awesome, refute my post then. Your wife doesn't count.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 21, 2015, 06:36:45 PM
Awesome, refute my post then. Your wife doesn't count.

Clueless punk.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Clueless punk.

THE BEEF

If you can't just say so.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 06:48:00 PM
BTW, if you can refute it you'd be going against the teachings of Boyle, McGill Sharmann, Weingroff, Cook and most of the S&C coaches in the college and pro ranks. So...I'll be waiting.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2015, 06:48:52 PM
Of course. But my calves are total shit, sort of due to circumstances out of my control. But my quads and hams are pretty darn good.
8)
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 21, 2015, 06:49:53 PM
8)

Eh, its all a work in progress.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 06:52:18 PM
Was The Beef once outed on this site or am I thinking about someone else who signs his posts?


Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
i would say coach is well versed and knowledgeable on all aspects strenght training,,he might come off here at times as a bit defensive when he's pushed on matters regarding training but he seems to back it up,,it's not like he's training drugged up meatheads lifting for the beach or shows,he's improving people's performance on the field in there chosen sport,,thats tough yr in and out...he must have many parents or relatives praising him for improving there game..
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 07:03:21 PM
i would say coach is well versed and knowledgeable on all aspects strenght training,,he might come off here at times as a bit defensive when he's pushed on matters regarding training but he seems to back it up,,it's not like he's training drugged up meatheads lifting for the beach or shows,he's improving people's performance on the field in there chosen sport,,thats tough yr in and out...he must have many parents or relatives praising him for improving there game..

X2

He can come across as a dunce sometimes, but who here hasnt.

 You can not like him personally,  but the results speak for themselves,he's trained legitimate world class  athletes and his knowledge is valuable.

Coach is a good dude and we can thank President Obama for that.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 21, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
X2

He can come across as a dunce sometimes, but who here hasnt.

 You can not like him personally,  but the results speak for themselves,he's trained legitimate world class  athletes and his knowledge is valuable.

Coach is a good dude and we can thank President Obama for that.

Kahn M. Singh, AVXO, and Syntax Machine.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
Kahn M. Singh, AVXO, and Syntax Machine.

Touché.

You forgot to add yourself to that list stud.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
Never had a problem with him until now. Have no idea why he attacked me.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: SF1900 on May 21, 2015, 07:30:32 PM
Touché.

You forgot to add yourself to that list stud.

Ha, I cannot even come close to the above 3 posters!! I am humbled by their vast and superior intellect.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: James28 on May 25, 2015, 11:55:52 AM
Oh lord, Coach...bringing facts, science and kinesiology to a purse-fight about squats on a bb messageboard? What are you thinking?

Hilarious isn't it. Just the way he's hilariously short.

Probably trolling for new clients. Luckily this world is producing idiots by the truckload every second willing to pay for stupid shit so he'll be alright.
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 25, 2015, 12:26:56 PM
Hilarious isn't it. Just the way he's hilariously short.

Probably trolling for new clients. Luckily this world is producing idiots by the truckload every second willing to pay for stupid shit so he'll be alright.

Just hit the button when you're ready...


http://mpftrainingsystems.com/mpf-online/
Title: Re: Ohearn v Efferding Squat off
Post by: _aj_ on May 25, 2015, 01:18:37 PM
Of course. But my calves are total shit, sort of due to circumstances out of my control. But my quads and hams are pretty darn good.

Everything south of my fabulous cock is for shit. I train legs 2x/week for what again?