Ohearn v Efferding Squat off

[falco]

God awful squats
Tom platz is rolling over in his grave

Stan looks like a withered old man without his facial hair

Both of them can go fuck themselves

I agree, but Platz is still alive hahahaha!

[thebrink]

Could be the future of how they compete, like in the old days. Was not a bad approach.

FuckiN' Heath would NEVER be MrO under those conditions....

Thats the way it should be. It would eliminate about 95% of competitors from the sport.

[latiuss]

Dubstep is fucking retarded lmao that intro is the cringiest piece  of shit

[Coach is Back!]

Frail minded elderly.

THE BEEF

Haha, 53 is hardly elderly unless you're 15.

[Coach is Back!]

Elevate your heals.

THE BEEF

OHearn is going down at least to parallel and Efferding is going below. By saying to elevate their heals after squatting for 25-30 years the same way would be practically useless. They squat just fine. The only time we elevate heals is when we teach a squat or OH squat, (provided they need it) not everyone is built to squat. They are. Both are world record holders. Gimme a break.

[MAXX]

Like someone said earlier, many guys here will never be satisfied.
Guys cry about Heath's weak ass half squats and machine "bench presses" but when
someone does heavy weights they are stupid for risking injury. Can't win either way.

As far as squatting style, it's affected by your structure, it's all genetics pretty much like everything else. You can't squat like Platz if you're not Platz. I think Platz holds squatting seminars sometimes, but the thing is, not one person comes out of his clinic squatting like him unless they already did so.

kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

[Coach is Back!]

kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

Not everyone is built to squat.

[Meaningless]

Th fake natural squatting in nothing but a pair of underpants, oh brother

[SuperTed]

Not everyone is built to squat.

I think everyone can squat properly if they start doing so at a very young age and keep it up. However, most guys start training during their mid-late teens, at which point, it becomes more difficult to master the movement if your not structurally built for the lift.

[Dave D]

I think everyone can squat properly if they start doing so at a very young age and keep it up. However, most guys start training during their mid-late teens, at which point, it becomes more difficult to master the movement if your not structurally built for the lift.

Valid point, do you recommend Olympic style lifting for toddlers or should they wait until the 8-11 range before they perfect their squat form for the demanding Internet community?

I'd also recommend that they begin an intense stretching regimen so that they can maintain the flexibility and pliability they have as infants throughout their whole lives.

[thebrink]

kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

baloney.

not everyone has stubby legs.

ohearn is tall with long legs and thats how he squats under those conditions.

[Neptune100]

Not everyone is built to squat.

Everyone can squat. Crazy to say otherwise.

[Dave D]

Everyone can squat. Crazy to say otherwise.

I think he meant Tom Platz ham to calf range of motion.

Traditionally people in wheel chairs haven't been able to squat or leg press.

[Coach is Back!]

Everyone can squat. Crazy to say otherwise.

Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

[Dave D]

Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

Coach, no offense,  but if one thing has been established on this site it's that you barely know what you're talking about when it comes to training. 

You'd be much more respected around here as a faceless gimmick.

 

[_aj_]

Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

Oh lord, Coach...bringing facts, science and kinesiology to a purse-fight about squats on a bb messageboard? What are you thinking?

[Van_Bilderass]

kind of bs imo

mostly everyone can do olympic style deep squats if they want

Deep yes, but it might look like shit. Not even O'Hearn and Efferding can do a beautiful OL squat like Platz... after decades under the bar. It's not just because Platz says he had OL'ers teaching him at the beginning.

[Neptune100]

Limited dorsi-flexion

Limited thoracic mobility

Tight hamstrings

High hip structure/short torso

Limited external rotation

Abnornal anterior tilt

Abnormal kyphosis

Abnormal lordosis

Both kyphosis and lordosis

Abnormal scoliosis

If they can't perform an overhead squat meeting certain requirements then I don't squat them. By squat I mean a traditional squat. That doesn't mean after weeks or sometimes months of soft-tissue to get them mobile I won't attempt a goblet, front or box squat (in some cases). But if they're structure doesn't allow it, we don't do it.

I rarely if at all squat basketball players over 6'4 unless they can pass an OH squat and the assessments that go along with it. But hey, I'm talking about athletes.

Most people fuck up their backs because they were never taught the correct way to squat and just mimic what everyone else does in the gym. Again, not everyone is structurally built to squat. Here's a great article that hits on several reason why not just crossfitters get hurt but just people in general. This article has a direct carry over to everyone.

 https://www.t-nation.com/training/doctors-view-of-crossfit

Not sure if your "not everyone can squat" quote was specific or all inclusive, I didn't read most of this thread.   If you're specifically talking about an ass to grass overhead squat with significant weight then yes you're right. But if we're talking about general bodyweight squatting, of course everyone can. Maybe not to parallel, but humans are built to squat and having been doing so for a million years.   Our ancestors squatted to poop.  Basketball players squat. A "half rep" squat is basically how people jump to begin with. Squatting isn't just going to parallel or below. Anyone should be able to a bodyweight squat.  If thats only a "half rep" its still a squat.   Humans squat.

[NaturalWonder83]

Sitting is the new smoking

[Dave D]

Sitting is the new smoking

LOL

[Havenbull]

I think everyone can squat properly if they start doing so at a very young age and keep it up. However, most guys start training during their mid-late teens, at which point, it becomes more difficult to master the movement if your not structurally built for the lift.

HAHAHA so you're saying that if you start squatting at 15 yo, you can never master the squat propertly. 

Oh jesus, good thing most getbiggers start squatting at 11 or 12 yo

[Bevo]

HAHAHA so you're saying that if you start squatting at 15 yo, you can never master the squat propertly. 

Oh jesus, good thing most getbiggers start squatting at 11 or 12 yo

Most getbiggers don't even train legs, just ask go4it

[Hurricane Beef !]

OHearn is going down at least to parallel and Efferding is going below. By saying to elevate their heals after squatting for 25-30 years the same way would be practically useless. They squat just fine. The only time we elevate heals is when we teach a squat or OH squat, (provided they need it) not everyone is built to squat. They are. Both are world record holders. Gimme a break.

And who the fuck are you? What the fuck qualifies you to teach, douche-bag. THE BEEF was commenting on lack of hip mobility.

You sit on the computer and bitch about losing a lease and then lecture on economics. If you knew anything about commercial leasing and out clauses, you would not be in the situation you are. You are 53 and made a statement along the lines of -I make more in six months flipping tires then you make in one. . . this came out of an " adult "? How fucked up is that? You need to shut your fucken mouth, stop posting pics of skinny boy squatting and know your place in societies pecking order. Karma ( like you ) is a bitch.

If THE BEEF is posting on message boards @ 50 ++ THE BEEF will end it all.

THE BEEF

P.S. Before they reclaim the lease remove the shower and pee cams from the boys locker rooms. It might effect the quality of your sex life, but you may avoid indictment.

 

[SF1900]

Most getbiggers don't even train legs, just ask go4it

Girls dont care about legs. dont matter.

[Coach is Back!]

And who the fuck are you? What the fuck qualifies you to teach, douche-bag. THE BEEF was commenting on lack of hip mobility.

You sit on the computer and bitch about losing a lease and then lecture on economics. If you knew anything about commercial leasing and out clauses, you would not be in the situation you are. You are 53 and made a statement along the lines of -I make more in six months flipping tires then you make in one. . . this came out of an " adult "? How fucked up is that? You need to shut your fucken mouth, stop posting pics of skinny boy squatting and know your place in societies pecking order. Karma ( like you ) is a bitch.

If THE BEEF is posting on message boards @ 50 ++ THE BEEF will end it all.

THE BEEF

P.S. Before they reclaim the lease remove the shower and pee cams from the boys locker rooms. It might effect the quality of your sex life, but you may avoid indictment.

 

And what the fuck qualifies you?? and if you say a degree, I'm going to slap the "the beef" down to a patty of spam.