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Keep up the good work.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102694868
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it's a good thing people didn't give up so easy in the 1930s with the great depression.
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Keep up the good work.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102694868
Shameful.
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it's a good thing people didn't give up so easy in the 1930s with the great depression.
Yes, because nothing's changed in EIGHTY FIVE YEARS. Next time please post something that has some relevance.
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Yes, because nothing's changed in EIGHTY FIVE YEARS. Next time please post something that has some relevance.
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Keep up the good work.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102694868
I wonder what the rate is in general, I would imagine a particular percentage of the unemployed are never looking for work.
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The largest groups of unemployed are 18-29 year old men (and those 50 and over). The vast majority don't have a college degree. Stay in school kids.
Bah!
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Keep up the good work.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102694868
"Nearly 9 of out 10 respondents (89 percent) said they would "search harder and wider" for work if their benefits ran out. Moreover, in a series of statements about benefits, the one that garnered the most agreement, with 69 percent, was that benefits were "giving me a cushion so that I can take my time in searching for a job," while 59 percent said compensation "has allowed me to take time for myself," 36 percent agreed that it "has allowed me to turn down positions that weren't right for me" and 40 percent agreed "I haven't had to look for work as hard knowing I have some income to rely on.""
Wouldn't GetBig be a much better place if OP's were required to actually read the article they post a link to? It also says 2015 has improved over 2014..
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"Nearly 9 of out 10 respondents (89 percent) said they would "search harder and wider" for work if their benefits ran out. Moreover, in a series of statements about benefits, the one that garnered the most agreement, with 69 percent, was that benefits were "giving me a cushion so that I can take my time in searching for a job," while 59 percent said compensation "has allowed me to take time for myself," 36 percent agreed that it "has allowed me to turn down positions that weren't right for me" and 40 percent agreed "I haven't had to look for work as hard knowing I have some income to rely on.""
Wouldn't GetBig be a much better place if OP's were required to actually read the article they post a link to? It also says 2015 has improved over 2014..
He was being serious, Joe can't read and thinks Obama is doing a good job as evidenced by his link
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He was being serious, Joe can't read and thinks Obama is doing a good job as evidenced by his link
That makes more sense.. thanks
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"Nearly 9 of out 10 respondents (89 percent) said they would "search harder and wider" for work if their benefits ran out. Moreover, in a series of statements about benefits, the one that garnered the most agreement, with 69 percent, was that benefits were "giving me a cushion so that I can take my time in searching for a job," while 59 percent said compensation "has allowed me to take time for myself," 36 percent agreed that it "has allowed me to turn down positions that weren't right for me" and 40 percent agreed "I haven't had to look for work as hard knowing I have some income to rely on.""
Wouldn't GetBig be a much better place if OP's were required to actually read the article they post a link to? It also says 2015 has improved over 2014..
This context doesn't lessen the impact of the story one bit. They are still not looking for work, living off taxpayer dollars.
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Keep up the good work.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102694868
5.4% unemployment........numb ers that every other country in the world would envy......
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"Nearly 9 of out 10 respondents (89 percent) said they would "search harder and wider" for work if their benefits ran out. Moreover, in a series of statements about benefits, the one that garnered the most agreement, with 69 percent, was that benefits were "giving me a cushion so that I can take my time in searching for a job," while 59 percent said compensation "has allowed me to take time for myself," 36 percent agreed that it "has allowed me to turn down positions that weren't right for me" and 40 percent agreed "I haven't had to look for work as hard knowing I have some income to rely on.""
Wouldn't GetBig be a much better place if OP's were required to actually read the article they post a link to? It also says 2015 has improved over 2014..
I think a major problem with finding a job nowadays is the major bullshit they put you through to actually land the job......back in th old day you would see an ad, call up (an actual person would answer), schedule an interview, got to said interview and wait to be called in.....
NOWADAYS.........I changed jobs six months ago....I had to send out my resume on the internet to 25 different jobs (who knows where they are going or if they are even going to be read)...then got a call saying they were interested in my resume and asked me to fill out lengthy job application on line which I did.....they called me in for an interview...then went to a second interview...then a third interview.....had to fill out some paperwork.....then went for a drug test...then fingerprinted for a criminal background check........then a physical where I had to take a Hepatitis vaccine shot and a tetanis shot as a requirement for the job.......and I had to do all of this while still working at the previous job....at this point I STILL DID NOT KNOW IF I TRULY HAD THE JOB OR NOT.........finally I was told I had the job and then had to proceed to fill out EVEN MORE paperwork......
they make it so damn hard to work today..and this is one of the reasons why people give up
back in teh old days you would know within a week or two if you were hired...it took them a MONTH AND A HALF to let me know I was hired.....
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This context doesn't lessen the impact of the story one bit. They are still not looking for work, living off taxpayer dollars.
Here's what I get from the story. There are a lot of lazy people in this country who would rather suck from the teat of the taxpayer than work. The headline implies, at least to me that the job market is so bad, people gave up looking. That isn't the case at all.
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5.4% unemployment........numb ers that every other country in the world would envy......
Dear Mr. Professor. When you have 40% not looking for work that number becomes useless.
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Dear Mr. Professor. When you have 40% not looking for work that number becomes useless.
I've already explained the reasons why there are such a high number of people not working...and again..this goes to prove how wealthy we are as a nation that we could have so many people not working and yet they are still fed, clothed, and have shelter..in any other nation they would be out on the streets begging and dropping dead from starvation
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Dear Mr. Professor. When you have 40% not looking for work that number becomes useless.
You posted a link, didn't read it clearly got owned and now struggling with basic stats/percentages. How does the unemployment rate become useless when 40% of those who are unemployed quit looking for work? you realize that teh 5.3% unemployment and the 40% number are not mutually exclusive right?
That means of the 5.3% unemployed, 40% of those (5.3 can be seen as 100% of that population ie the unemployed) are not looking for work. The overall number of subjects ie unemployed will shrink based on the unemployment rate, without context the 40% is meaningless.
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Here's what I get from the story. There are a lot of lazy people in this country who would rather suck from the teat of the taxpayer than work. The headline implies, at least to me that the job market is so bad, people gave up looking. That isn't the case at all.
That's not what I took away from the headline. What I thought after reading the headline was the number of unemployed is grossly understated. I felt exactly the same way after reading the article. It doesn't matter if the people are lazy or simply cannot find work. The fact is a number of people who should be looking for work, are not looking for work, which makes the number of unemployed artificially low.
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Keep up the good work.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102694868
One thing this article seemed to forget mentioning is that if you are 50 years old and older and you previously held a mid-level management position, you are pretty much shit out of luck finding a replacement position. You can be easily replaced with a younger person who is on the rise and will accept a lower salary and less benefits.
I am fortunate in that I worked for the same company for nearly 30 years until I was almost full retirement age. Retirement has been good for me. I have no need or desire to go back to work. However, when statistics like the one you linked to are published, retired folks are often included among those who are not looking for work (have given up looking for work).
Other articles, like the one cited below stress that folks are living longer and are in ever increasing numbers.
There are now more Americans age 65 and older than at any other time in U.S. history. According to a new Census Bureau report, there were 40.3 million people age 65 and older on April 1, 2010, up 5.3 percent from 35 million in 2000 (and just 3.1 million in 1900).
http://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/2012/01/09/65-and-older-population-soars
Many if not most of these folks are not looking for work. Further their decision has little or nothing to do with the economy and much to do with desire and their level of retirement income. Unfortunately, there is consensus that fewer and fewer people are saving enough for their retirement. This means this demographic is likely to change.
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I think a major problem with finding a job nowadays is the major bullshit they put you through to actually land the job......back in th old day you would see an ad, call up (an actual person would answer), schedule an interview, got to said interview and wait to be called in.....
NOWADAYS.........I changed jobs six months ago....I had to send out my resume on the internet to 25 different jobs (who knows where they are going or if they are even going to be read)...then got a call saying they were interested in my resume and asked me to fill out lengthy job application on line which I did.....they called me in for an interview...then went to a second interview...then a third interview.....had to fill out some paperwork.....then went for a drug test...then fingerprinted for a criminal background check........then a physical where I had to take a Hepatitis vaccine shot and a tetanis shot as a requirement for the job.......and I had to do all of this while still working at the previous job....at this point I STILL DID NOT KNOW IF I TRULY HAD THE JOB OR NOT.........finally I was told I had the job and then had to proceed to fill out EVEN MORE paperwork......
they make it so damn hard to work today..and this is one of the reasons why people give up
back in teh old days you would know within a week or two if you were hired...it took them a MONTH AND A HALF to let me know I was hired.....
What you describe is onerous and time consuming, but it is not hard or difficult. And you have your fellow employees to blame—not the employer. Companies have had to go this route because many times in the past they hired someone without, say, a criminal background check, credit check, physical and vaccines, etc. only to have it blow up later when the employee turns out to be a criminal with bad credit and communicable diseases. Hiring the wrong person can cost a company thousands to millions of dollars if things go sour and the employee opens the company up to liability. Yes, it is annoying to have to jump through hoops, but who do you think is to blame for this? You really think companies like having to check off all these boxes because they have nothing better to do?
Are you suggesting that if you ran a big company you would just hire off the street with no screening like the hoops you just described? If you did that, you would not be in business for very long. Would you be happy working next to someone knowing that they did not go through any kind of screening in order to work along side you? A few bad apples have spoiled the employment job cart for every one. Get used to it.
Most applications today have a question along the lines of “Have you ever been convicted of a criminal office (except a minor traffic violation)? If so explain in full…” If you have to answer “yes” to that question in most places you are toast. And rightfully so.
Bah!
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What you describe is onerous and time consuming, but it is not hard or difficult. And you have your fellow employees to blame—not the employer. Companies have had to go this route because many times in the past they hired someone without, say, a criminal background check, credit check, physical and vaccines, etc. only to have it blow up later when the employee turns out to be a criminal with bad credit and communicable diseases. Hiring the wrong person can cost a company thousands to millions of dollars if things go sour and the employee opens the company up to liability. Yes, it is annoying to have to jump through hoops, but who do you think is to blame for this? You really think companies like having to check off all these boxes because they have nothing better to do?
Are you suggesting that if you ran a big company you would just hire off the street with no screening like the hoops you just described? If you did that, you would not be in business for very long. Would you be happy working next to someone knowing that they did not go through any kind of screening in order to work along side you? A few bad apples have spoiled the employment job cart for every one. Get used to it.
Most applications today have a question along the lines of “Have you ever been convicted of a criminal office (except a minor traffic violation)? If so explain in full…” If you have to answer “yes” to that question in most places you are toast. And rightfully so.
Bah!
The last time I applied for a job, it was a different position at the company where I already worked. I updated my resume, provided references and was interviewed by a twelve person panel, twice. This was probably in the late 1990's. Someone younger was offered the position because as I was told, she had a lot of energy. I sued and I won the suit. It is not easy to prove age discrimination, but this was pretty blatant. I also got the last laugh because she was off sick more then she actually worked and finally had to quit work because of this before I retired....so much for her having more energy. ;D
It is interesting that employers are asking potential employees to jump through so many hoops today to land a position. My guess is that until their are more jobs then applicants this will remain the case. This has already happened with some entry level jobs. Employers are so hard put to find employees to fill vacant positions, they are literally advertising for them with placards on the sidewalks.
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The corporate interest loves having people desperately competing against one another to serve them. They may stop just short of having people slit one another's throats, but that's only because it would lessen future competition.
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The last time I applied for a job, it was a different position at the company where I already worked. I updated my resume, provided references and was interviewed by a twelve person panel, twice. This was probably in the late 1990's. Someone younger was offered the position because as I was told, she had a lot of energy. I sued and I won the suit. It is not easy to prove age discrimination, but this was pretty blatant. I also got the last laugh because she was off sick more then she actually worked and finally had to quit work because of this before I retired....so much for her having more energy. ;D
It is interesting that employers are asking potential employees to jump through so many hoops today to land a position. My guess is that until their are more jobs then applicants this will remain the case. This has already happened with some entry level jobs. Employers are so hard put to find employees to fill vacant positions, they are literally advertising for them with placards on the sidewalks.
Do you disagree that (bad) employees are the ones responsible for all the hoops job seekers now have to jump through? If you ran your own company do you think you could hire at every level in the organization without thoroughly screening candidates? If you did, that would very quickly blow up in your face. Bah!
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Do you disagree that (bad) employees are the ones responsible for all the hoops job seekers now have to jump through? If you ran your own company do you think you could hire at every level in the organization without thoroughly screening candidates? If you did, that would very quickly blow up in your face. Bah!
If by bad employees you mean employees you as a supervisor or business owner want to let go but cannot because they might retaliate with a lawsuit, then I believe you are right. It is very difficult to fire someone today. Employers want to take every precaution they can before hiring someone. Unfortunately, even with all these checks and balances, employers continue to get stuck with bad employees. Sometimes people change from good to bad. Sometimes they just hide their flaws really well from prospective employers. Any reasonably intelligent person can write or hire someone to write a winning resume.
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I'm unemployed.
I quit looking for work.
oh, right....
I retired!!!!
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The last time I applied for a job, it was a different position at the company where I already worked. I updated my resume, provided references and was interviewed by a twelve person panel, twice. This was probably in the late 1990's. Someone younger was offered the position because as I was told, she had a lot of energy. I sued and I won the suit. It is not easy to prove age discrimination, but this was pretty blatant. I also got the last laugh because she was off sick more then she actually worked and finally had to quit work because of this before I retired....so much for her having more energy. ;D
It is interesting that employers are asking potential employees to jump through so many hoops today to land a position. My guess is that until their are more jobs then applicants this will remain the case. This has already happened with some entry level jobs. Employers are so hard put to find employees to fill vacant positions, they are literally advertising for them with placards on the sidewalks.
Agreed. It can be total hell if you don't hire correctly. Best to try and make sure up front that you are getting the best qualified person.
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Who cares if the actual unemployment rate is 11%, labor participation is lower than its been in nearly 40 years, household net income is down, the amount of people on food stamps has nearly doubled in the last 6 years, many people who have become re-employed have gone from full time to part time, industrial production is down recently, and more companies are closing than opening up in the last half dozen years?
Gotta love that debt to GDP and the Fed needing to keep rates at zero for nearly 7 years too. The interest on that $18 trillion in debt and $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities will balloon rather nicely if the training wheels fully come off and rates are ever increased.