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Gents, you know the drill...
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Hope this helps: http://www.gofeed2all.eu/type/boxing-wwe-ufc.html
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Hope Werdum wins, been a shit card so far
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Hope Werdum wins, been a shit card so far
Same.
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Can't wait, but why the Cain hate?
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Can't wait, but why the Cain hate?
I personally don't hate Cain, I think he is a helluva fighter.
At the same time I would like to see a little more parity in the heavyweight division.
Just seen that Cain is a 4/1 favorite so Werdum certainly has his work cut out for him.
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I personally don't hate Cain, I think he is a helluva fighter.
At the same time I would like to see a little more parity in the heavyweight division.
Just seen that Cain is a 4/1 favorite so Werdum certainly has his work cut out for him.
Isn't he the best heavyweight we've seen since, well, forever?
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Cain by ground and pound...
Werdum doesn't have a chance ;)
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Cain by ground and pound...
Werdum doesn't have a chance ;)
Agree.
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http://goatd.net/113753/watch-ufc-188-velasquez-vs-werdum
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Isn't he the best heavyweight we've seen since, well, forever?
He has looked almost bullet proof over the past 3 or 4 years.
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He has looked almost bullet proof over the past 3 or 4 years.
Yeah, aside from the JDS KO (fluke, if you ask me), guy seems unstoppable. Who would you say is UFC's all-time pound-for-pound best: Jones, GSP, Cain, Anderson, Aldo ...?
Curious.
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Yeah, aside from the JDS KO (fluke, if you ask me), guy seems unstoppable. Who would you say is UFC's all-time pound-for-pound best: Jones, GSP, Cain, Anderson, Aldo ...?
Curious.
Without a doubt I would say Jose Aldo.
I have been completely sold on that guy from the time he fought Urijah Faber a few years ago.
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VICIOUS looking cut on Rosa.
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Without a doubt I would say Jose Aldo.
I have been completely sold on that guy from the time he fought Urijah Faber a few years ago.
Yes, Aldo is something else for sure. Do you think Conor has a shot?
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Yes, Aldo is something else for sure. Do you think Conor has a shot?
You wonder how motivated a guy like Aldo can be after winning a decade of fights in a row but I don't think there is any doubt he will be extremely ready for this one after the buildup, Conor's shenanigans etc etc
It would surprise me to see Conor pull it off but I think he can do it. He has such an unconventional style that we have never seen Aldo fight against so it certainly is possible. Aldo is still young and has a ton of big fight experience working in his favor.
I'll be rooting for Conor in that one as well. I've always been kind of a sucker for the underdog(unless they are going against my favorite team/fighters) 8)
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You wonder how motivated a guy like Aldo can be after winning a decade of fights in a row but I don't think there is any doubt he will be extremely ready for this one after the buildup, Conor's shenanigans etc etc
It would surprise me to see Conor pull it off but I think he can do it. He has such an unconventional style that we have never seen Aldo fight against so it certainly is possible. Aldo is still young and has a ton of big fight experience working in his favor.
I'll be rooting for Conor in that one as well. I've always been kind of a sucker for the underdog(unless they are going against my favorite team/fighters) 8)
Kind of where I am. Aldo is emotionally invested now, so he's definitely not calling this one in. And Conor is just as you say: effectively unconventional. Reminds me of Anderson that way - shit comes from anywhere and everywhere.
I'm pulling for him, too. I do think he's in over his head with Aldo, but I'd love to see him prove me wrong.
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Kind of where I am. Aldo is emotionally invested now, so he's definitely not calling this one in. And Conor is just as you say: effectively unconventional. Reminds me of Anderson that way - shit comes from anywhere and everywhere.
I'm pulling for him, too. I do think he's in over his head with Aldo, but I'd love to see him prove me wrong.
It's crazy to think Aldo is only 28 years old!
Generally a fighter with his type of legendary status and fight history would be pretty well into his 30's.
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It's crazy to think Aldo is only 28 years old!
Generally a fighter with his type of legendary status and fight history would be pretty well into his 30's.
Yes, that's crazy. Didn't know that, honestly. Dude looks mid- to late-forties, no?
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The Melendez vs. Alvarez fights is boring / dud
>:(
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Finally..
3rd round was good..
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Alvarez by decision
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god damnit i have Buffer!!! can they please get some one new?
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hurry up already. i missed deontay vs molina fight frak
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Alvarez by decision
Don't understand that at all.
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Don't understand that at all.
Does Cain already look tired to you?
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good 1st round
Cain hitting Fabricio lots
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whats best link?
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Cains hurt
he looks gassed
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Cains hurt
he looks gassed
GASSED!
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Cain gonna get kayoed
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Cain is done ,completely gassed .very sloppy fight.
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Werdum looks relaxed and in shape. Hes picking Cain apart
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Cain should have trained at altitude.
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Does Cain already look tired to you?
I was gonna post about Cain toying with him ... then shit got real.
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WOW
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WOW
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Werdum with the guillotine for the win.
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Wow
:'( :'(
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Cain is done ,completely gassed .very sloppy fight.
Kind of surprising. Cain for the most part is known for his great cardio & stamina.
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hahahhaa
that striking was horrible to watch
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Kind of surprising. Cain for the most part is known for his great cardio & stamina.
Not really ,altitude is a bitch , injuries and being out of the octagon for so long doesn't help either .
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Whoa.
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Not really ,altitude is a bitch , injuries and being out of the octagon for so long doesn't help either .
True.
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Kind of surprising. Cain for the most part is known for his great cardio & stamina.
Yes but fighting at altitude is a whole different ball game.
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Not really ,altitude is a bitch , injuries and being out of the octagon for so long doesn't help either .
i think u nailed it
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Werdum strikes again ;D
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Kind of surprising. Cain for the most part is known for his great cardio & stamina.
Can't dope anymore. EPO is a no-no now with comprehensive testing.
Just keeping it real.
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You guys make all these excuses for Cain but also fail to realize that Werdum has become a force of nature these past 6 fights.
He's gonna be very tough to beat.
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>:(
Lol
;D
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arlovski vs werdum 2! arlosvki won their first encounter if anyone remembers....right when werdum came to ufc the first time and the pitbull exited....
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Werdum is a getbigger
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You guys make all these excuses for Cain but also fail to realize that Werdum has become a force of nature these past 6 fights.
He's gonna be very tough to beat.
Hopefully Werdum vs Dos Santos part 2 will get set for fall 2015
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Crocop is a funny fucker too
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Crocop is comical
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This was my opinion of the matchup from earlier this week (on the MMA board)
Its a tough fight to call: Cain has had another long layoff due to injury, so who knows if ring rust will play a factor. A few years ago, I would have said Cain would have probably won easily, due to Werdum's lack of a standup game (remember when he constantly fell to the ground and tried to pull Overeem into his guard)
Werdum appears to have significantly improved his striking game. He is currently on a five fight win streak coming off of the knockout win against Mark Hunt. He has always been one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, and Cain could easily get subbed if he isn't careful.
Cain should keep the fight standing as long as possible, and only go for takedowns to get points, and only stay on the ground if he maintains a dominant position. All of the wrestling ability in the world will not prevent someone from tapping out.
Should be an interesting fight.
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This was my opinion of the matchup from earlier this week (on the MMA board)
Its a tough fight to call: Cain has had another long layoff due to injury, so who knows if ring rust will play a factor. A few years ago, I would have said Cain would have probably won easily, due to Werdum's lack of a standup game (remember when he constantly fell to the ground and tried to pull Overeem into his guard)
Werdum appears to have significantly improved his striking game. He is currently on a five fight win streak coming off of the knockout win against Mark Hunt. He has always been one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, and Cain could easily get subbed if he isn't careful.
Cain should keep the fight standing as long as possible, and only go for takedowns to get points, and only stay on the ground if he maintains a dominant position. All of the wrestling ability in the world will not prevent someone from tapping out.
Should be an interesting fight.
are you trolling
you basically sat on the fence so you could claim you were right no matter what happened
you don't know the fight game
nothing wrong with that just don't pretend you do
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are you trolling
you basically sat on the fence so you could claim you were right no matter what happened
you don't know the fight game
nothing wrong with that just don't pretend you do
I never said I picked the winner ??? Besides, picking winners has a lot to do with being lucky. At that level of fighting, either man could win. It's a 50/50 coin flip.
P.S. stop trying to constantly pick a fight with people. ;)
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I never said I picked the winner ??? Besides, picking winners has a lot to do with being lucky. At that level of fighting, either man could win. It's a 50/50 coin flip.
P.S. stop trying to constantly pick a fight with people. ;)
I am not picking a fight its an opinion
I assume you posted it because you thought it made you look good
there is really no other reason to copy and paste you own posts
that you think picking fights is 50/50 proves my point
thanks 8)
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I am not picking a fight its an opinion
I assume you posted it because you thought it made you look good
there is really no other reason to copy and paste you own posts
that you think picking fights is 50/50 proves my point
thanks 8)
Hahaha......Picking fights at the elite/championship level, is 50/50. I'm sure that Cain was the favorite to win that fight, but he didn't.
When you are top fighter in a division, you absolutely have a chance at beating the champ. Why do you think that so many people are saying that McGregor has a solid chance? There are two fighters that enter a ring. 50/50 odds that you will pick the winner (not talking betting odds)
Its the prefight analysis of the fighters, that proves if you know anything about MMA. I think my analysis was solid.
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Hahaha......Picking fights at the elite/championship level, is 50/50. I'm sure that Cain was the favorite to win that fight, but he didn't.
When you are top fighter in a division, you absolutely have a chance at beating the champ. Why do you think that so many people are saying that McGregor has a solid chance? There are two fighters that enter a ring. 50/50 odds that you will pick the winner (not talking betting odds)
Its the prefight analysis of the fighters, that proves if you know anything about MMA. I think my analysis was solid.
ok champ
I read almost the exact same analysis word for word on another forum
funny that
great minds must think alike ;)
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ok champ
I read almost the exact same analysis word for word on another forum
funny that
great minds must think alike ;)
Lol, I have become hardened to your baiting tactics over the years.
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Hahaha......Picking fights at the elite/championship level, is 50/50. I'm sure that Cain was the favorite to win that fight, but he didn't.
When you are top fighter in a division, you absolutely have a chance at beating the champ. Why do you think that so many people are saying that McGregor has a solid chance? There are two fighters that enter a ring. 50/50 odds that you will pick the winner (not talking betting odds)
Its the prefight analysis of the fighters, that proves if you know anything about MMA. I think my analysis was solid.
Shizzo owning the ginger twink in this thread
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This was my opinion of the matchup from earlier this week (on the MMA board)
Its a tough fight to call: Cain has had another long layoff due to injury, so who knows if ring rust will play a factor. A few years ago, I would have said Cain would have probably won easily, due to Werdum's lack of a standup game (remember when he constantly fell to the ground and tried to pull Overeem into his guard)
Werdum appears to have significantly improved his striking game. He is currently on a five fight win streak coming off of the knockout win against Mark Hunt. He has always been one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, and Cain could easily get subbed if he isn't careful.
Cain should keep the fight standing as long as possible, and only go for takedowns to get points, and only stay on the ground if he maintains a dominant position. All of the wrestling ability in the world will not prevent someone from tapping out.
Should be an interesting fight.
Spot on , Shizzo , great mod , you are one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board and I'm glad to see things are going smooth on the MMA board ,keep up the good work .
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Spot on , Shizzo , great mod , you are one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board and I'm glad to see things are going smooth on the MMA board ,keep up the good work .
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the lack of footwork on these guys is shocking, they mostly stand their with their feet planted on the ground like statues...
cain should be renamed the mexican zombie, they make it sound like "going forward all the time" is a good thing... dude is dumb as a brick and moves like a refridgerator.
werdum got a good reach and is really good connecting and finding angles but he could win a lot by moving more.
also i thought melendez clearly lost his fight shouldnt even have been a split decision. if he cant beat alvarez who only can see with one eye, then how the hell does he expect to be able to beat him... he gassed in the 2nd round
top 10 heavyweights - werdum, cain, junior, stipe, arlovski, travis, barnett, hunt, rothwell, overreem, mir, nelson, bigfoot, mitrione, struve, alexay (who?)
thats one weak division... doesnt junior have a glass jaw by now? hunt most be on his way out... so is mir and nelson and bigfoot... and struve...
half the guys will hardly fight any more. the other half... who is gonna be able to defeat werdum? barnett ?
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the lack of footwork on these guys is shocking, they mostly stand their with their feet planted on the ground like statues...
cain should be renamed the mexican zombie, they make it sound like "going forward all the time" is a good thing... dude is dumb as a brick and moves like a refridgerator.
werdum got a good reach and is really good connecting and finding angles but he could win a lot by moving more.
also i thought melendez clearly lost his fight shouldnt even have been a split decision. if he cant beat alvarez who only can see with one eye, then how the hell does he expect to be able to beat him... he gassed in the 2nd round
Yeah what a joke Velasquez is.
That guy can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
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i dont expect him to be on a world class boxing level but common now.. boxers go 12 rounds, used to be 15 back in the day... this dude is done after 2 rounds... he has no footwork, he cant put a combination together, he get hit all the time from every angle possible, just walking into punch after punch... yeah he's a heavy dude and im sure some of his kicks hurt but werdum was able to grab his foot with both of his hands, thats not a very snappy kick... he can take a punch and im sure he hits pretty hard but you dont have to stand in front of him (someone should tell that to werdum) and nobody can say that cain is the fastest guy in the world so even if he comes after you how about moving outta the way... i dont know man.
the heavy weight division of mma is not something to brag about, it really isnt.
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i dont expect him to be on a world class boxing level but common now.. boxers go 12 rounds, used to be 15 back in the day... this dude is done after 2 rounds... he has no footwork, he cant put a combination together, he get hit all the time from every angle possible, just walking into punch after punch... yeah he's a heavy dude and im sure some of his kicks hurt but werdum was able to grab his foot with both of his hands, thats not a very snappy kick... he can take a punch and im sure he hits pretty hard but you dont have to stand in front of him (someone should tell that to werdum) and nobody can say that cain is the fasting guy in the world so even if he comes after you how about moving outta the way... i dont know man.
the heavy weight division of mma is not something to brag about, it really isnt.
Dana White pissing down a lot of backs and saying it is raining
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i dont expect him to be on a world class boxing level but common now.. boxers go 12 rounds, used to be 15 back in the day... this dude is done after 2 rounds... he has no footwork, he cant put a combination together, he get hit all the time from every angle possible, just walking into punch after punch... yeah he's a heavy dude and im sure some of his kicks hurt but werdum was able to grab his foot with both of his hands, thats not a very snappy kick... he can take a punch and im sure he hits pretty hard but you dont have to stand in front of him (someone should tell that to werdum) and nobody can say that cain is the fasting guy in the world so even if he comes after you how about moving outta the way... i dont know man.
the heavy weight division of mma is not something to brag about, it really isnt.
He needs to work with a slick, crafty boxer like James Toney in order to take his MMA game up to a respectful level.
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Shizzo owning the ginger twink in this thread
fat angry midget of peace :-*
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i do like werdum though, i read he only started training at age 20, he's 37 years now and doesnt have as boxers background yet he brought up late in his career to a level when its at least on par with anyone else in the division... he doesnt look like a natural heavy weight either id guess he fought as a lighter guy earlier in his career... he gone very far considering that.
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i dont expect him to be on a world class boxing level but common now.. boxers go 12 rounds, used to be 15 back in the day... this dude is done after 2 rounds... he has no footwork, he cant put a combination together, he get hit all the time from every angle possible, just walking into punch after punch... yeah he's a heavy dude and im sure some of his kicks hurt but werdum was able to grab his foot with both of his hands, thats not a very snappy kick... he can take a punch and im sure he hits pretty hard but you dont have to stand in front of him (someone should tell that to werdum) and nobody can say that cain is the fastest guy in the world so even if he comes after you how about moving outta the way... i dont know man.
the heavy weight division of mma is not something to brag about, it really isnt.
Sometimes used to be even more than 15 rounds, back in the day. Jack Johnson regularly fought 20 round bouts. lol @ some of these guys, who can't go two rounds, at a relatively slow pace, before gassing.
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i do like werdum though, i read he only started training at age 20, he's 37 years now and doesnt have as boxers background yet he brought up late in his career to a level when its at least on par with anyone else in the division... he doesnt look like a natural heavy weight either id guess he fought as a lighter guy earlier in his career... he gone very far considering that.
his striking is very accurate
I think it catches guys out
when he exchanged with cain he was hitting him with decent clean shots in every exchange
harder to do than it looks
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his striking is very accurate
I think it catches guys out
when he exchanged with cain he was hitting him with decent clean shots in every exchange
harder to do than it looks
well cain do have a big head =)
but yeah his timing, reach advantage use of angles and precision is very good, he doesnt present the most pretty boxing to look at but you cant deny the result...
and he must have a good clinch to cain didnt want any of it, and trying to take him down ended the fight so that makes quite a solid well balanced fighter. he is also tough and seems to be able to push for a long time not giving up. so cant really find much to complain about when it comes to werdum except that i think he should move more and would benefit from better footwork
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well cain do have a big head =)
but yeah his timing, reach advantage use of angles and precision is very good, he doesnt present the most pretty boxing to look at but you cant deny the result...
and he must have a good clinch to cain didnt want any of it, and trying to take him down ended the fight so that makes quite a solid well balanced fighter. he is also tough and seems to be able to push for a long time not giving up. so cant really find much to complain about when it comes to werdum except that i think he should move more and would benefit from better footwork
if you are a wrestler and like to grind and lay and pray
fighting a guy who can finish you at his leisure from the bottom must be a nightmare
cain probably thought he could handle him standing
he got picked apart so his corner tell him to take werdum down
werdum had the choke hold in before they even hit the ground
that is elite shit
junior dos santos would have a good chance against werdum with his striking
or a juiced up overeem when he first came to the ufc(not now with his chin)
outside of that he will be tough to beat
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if you are a wrestler and like to grind and lay and pray
fighting a guy who can finish you at his leisure from the bottom must be a nightmare
cain probably thought he could handle him standing
he got picked apart so his corner tell him to take werdum down
werdum had the choke hold in before they even hit the ground
that is elite shit
junior dos santos would have a good chance against werdum with his striking
or a juiced up overeem when he first came to the ufc(not now with his chin)
outside of that he will be tough to beat
Dos Santos will beat Werdum easily.
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Dos Santos will beat Werdum easily.
he defo has the best chance
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junior dos santos just seem punch drunk every time i see him, i dont think he will need to take many hits to go down
werdum will punch him twice then while he try to recover get his neck and choke him out.
oh well it was an interesting fight to watch and beforehand i cant say i was too sure who wouldve won, not that i wouldve put any money on it... its just that now when we know the results the hw division doesnt seem very exciting.
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if you are a wrestler and like to grind and lay and pray
fighting a guy who can finish you at his leisure from the bottom must be a nightmare
cain probably thought he could handle him standing
he got picked apart so his corner tell him to take werdum down
werdum had the choke hold in before they even hit the ground
that is elite shit
junior dos santos would have a good chance against werdum with his striking
or a juiced up overeem when he first came to the ufc(not now with his chin)
outside of that he will be tough to beat
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BTW ,Werdum boxing is horrible, no foot work , no head movement , easy to hit , very slow ......Werdum started looking like Roy Jones Jr after Cain was completely gassed (mid of 2nd rd).
Against Dos Santos if he doesn't get the sub in the 1st rd , he will get Koed in the 1st rd.
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Everybody is jumping on the next day band wagon to lick Werdum's ass crack clean after beating an out of shape guy who hadn't fought in almost 2 years.
Not saying that Werdum isn't a really good fighter. He is. But let's just tap the brakes and see if he can string together 3 or 4 title defenses. I'm betting that he cannot.
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Everybody is jumping on the next day band wagon to lick Werdum's ass crack clean after beating an out of shape guy who hadn't fought in almost 2 years.
Not saying that Werdum isn't a really good fighter. He is. But let's just tap the brakes and see if he can string together 3 or 4 title defenses. I'm betting that he cannot.
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Nah , I will replay to this post ASAP after consulting with Shizzo , thanks.
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Nah , I will replay to this post ASAP after consulting with Shizzo , thanks.
Cut and pasting his responses from the Sherdog forum. 8) :D
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BTW ,Werdum boxing is horrible, no foot work , no head movement , easy to hit , very slow ......Werdum started looking like Roy Jones Jr after Cain was completely gassed (mid of 2nd rd).
Against Dos Santos if he doesn't get the sub in the 1st rd , he will get Koed in the 1st rd.
you don't think he is fairly accurate though
especially during exchanges
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Cut and pasting his responses from the Sherdog forum. 8) :D
Nah bro he's legit, people from Sherdog comes to the MMA board here to cut and paste Shizzo's posts.
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so which guys you reckon can win against werdum?
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Everybody is jumping on the next day band wagon to lick Werdum's ass crack clean after beating an out of shape guy who hadn't fought in almost 2 years.
Not saying that Werdum isn't a really good fighter. He is. But let's just tap the brakes and see if he can string together 3 or 4 title defenses. I'm betting that he cannot.
He's on a 6 fight win streak already.
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you don't think he is fairly accurate though
especially during exchanges
That's because Cain lacks of reflexes and head movement + he was exhausted.
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so which guys you reckon can win against werdum?
None.
He is Ali/Sugar Ray Leonard wrapped into one and the rest of the Heavyweight Division are a bunch of no talent, decrepit, slow as molasses, knuckle dragging, ignorant neanderthals who 90% of the men in the crowd would whip they were called upon to enter the ring.
Very underwhelming division. Poor state of affairs. Zero entertainment value. And so on and so forth.
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Spot on , Shizzo , great mod , you are one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board and I'm glad to see things are going smooth on the MMA board ,keep up the good work .
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Lmao
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so which guys you reckon can win against werdum?
There's only one man that can rise to the challenge
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Nah bro he's legit, people from Sherdog comes to the MMA board here to cut and paste Shizzo's posts.
Joe Rogan checks in with Shizzo for MMA insight before each broadcast.
Troof...
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Joe Rogan checks in with Shizzo for MMA insight before each broadcast.
Troof...
I didn't know that , it doesn't surprise me, though.
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so which guys you reckon can win against werdum?
Junior dos Santos dismantled Werdum. I'd like to see a rematch.
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Once they move back to Vegas .. Werdum will eventually lose to Dos Santos or Cain in a rematch.. Werdum won't be a dominant champ.. sarcastic prick is believing his own hype..
Cain got gassed due to the ring rust .. high altitude.. in Vegas he will keep the same pace he kept in the first round which he couldn't do in Mexico..
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Everybody is jumping on the next day band wagon to lick Werdum's ass crack clean after beating an out of shape guy who hadn't fought in almost 2 years.
Not saying that Werdum isn't a really good fighter. He is. But let's just tap the brakes and see if he can string together 3 or 4 title defenses. I'm betting that he cannot.
Well said sir
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QFT
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Why does that fat man have a penis tattooed on his chest?
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He's on a 6 fight win streak already.
Like I say, he's a REALLY good fighter. In this same thread I was rooting for the guy to win pre-fight.
I'm just tapping the brakes a little bit, that's all.
I also made the comment during the very first round that Cain already looked tired which gave Fabricio a huge advantage with his striking.
I just can't see him stringing together 3 straight wins against Dos Santos, Arvloski and then Cain again but of course I've been wrong a million times on these predictions.
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Once they move back to Vegas .. Werdum will eventually lose to Dos Santos or Cain in a rematch.. Werdum won't be a dominant champ.. sarcastic prick is believing his own hype..
Cain got gassed due to the ring rust .. high altitude.. in Vegas he will keep the same pace he kept in the first round which he couldn't do in Mexico..
Well if Velasquez didn't shake off the ring rust, train properly, train for the fight conditions, and show up in tip top physical condition, I can't see how that is Werdum's fault?
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but yeah his timing, reach advantage use of angles and precision is very good, he doesnt present the most pretty boxing to look at but you cant deny the result...
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he is a better fighter now
also dos santos has been through some fucking wars he looks a little punch drunk
I think werdums striking has been decent last three fights
his striking coach is exceptional
I don't know enough to comment on his footwork etc so will bow down to che on that
but part of the reason cain gassed was the heavy body kicks and having his nose flattened
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I think Werdum is legit. He was a jui jitsu fighter with no stand up. Now he has stand up and showed it against a big striker like Cain. I think he is evolving into a complete fighter. He did get hit by Cain but he took it and gave back. I thought his stand up increased drastically from his earlier fights. Junior is going to have a lot of problems dealing with this new and improved fighter. I predicted the upset by the way.
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he is a better fighter now
also dos santos has been through some fucking wars he looks a little punch drunk
I think werdums striking has been decent last three fights
his striking coach is exceptional
I don't know enough to comment on his footwork etc so will bow down to che on that
but part of the reason cain gassed was the heavy body kicks and having his nose flattened
werdums defense still sucks
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I think Werdum is legit. He was a jui jitsu fighter with no stand up. Now he has stand up and showed it against a big striker like Cain. I think he is evolving into a complete fighter. He did get hit by Cain but he took it and gave back. I thought his stand up increased drastically from his earlier fights. Junior is going to have a lot of problems dealing with this new and improved fighter. I predicted the upset by the way.
Congratulations.
That and 75 cents will get you a cup of coffee.
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werdums defense still sucks
he can condole himself by looking at his championship belt
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Congratulations.
That and 75 cents will get you a cup of coffee.
I don't drink coffee.
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he is a better fighter now
also dos santos has been through some fucking wars he looks a little punch drunk
I think werdums striking has been decent last three fights
his striking coach is exceptional
I don't know enough to comment on his footwork etc so will bow down to Shizzo on that
but part of the reason cain gassed was the heavy body kicks and having his nose flattened
FIXED
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FIXED
im actually humbled by shizzos knowledge
hence the attacks
id imagine he is being courted by fox to replace joe rogan
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werdums defense still sucks
Even if that were true who is going to follow him to the ground if they knock him?
He plays possum quite a bit too
When JDS beat him years back Werdum didnt train for the fight as you can see he is fat in it, JDS was an unknown, new to the UFC then, since then Werdum has beaten Fedor, gonzaga, nogeira, roy nelson, mark hunt, travis browne and made a show of cain
JDS will never be the same after the beatings cain gave him
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Kimbo vs Ken Shamrock next week :)
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Even if that were true who is going to follow him to the ground if they knock him?
He plays possum quite a bit too
When JDS beat him years back Werdum didnt train for the fight as you can see he is fat in it, JDS was an unknown, new to the UFC then, since then Werdum has beaten Fedor, gonzaga, nogeira, roy nelson, mark hunt, travis browne and made a show of cain
JDS will never be the same after the beatings cain gave him
PRIDE FC >UFC!!
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Kimbo vs Ken Shamrock next week :)
Should be a slobberknocker!!!
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Should be a slobberknocker!!!
ken will tap when he walks in the ring like his last ten fights
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I think Werdum's ground game is pretty amazing.
Werdum's striking has improved vastly from where it once was, although he still does not appear elusive or seamless by way of his ability to roll with the punches or employ better footwork. I think he can continue to improve there, but so far so good.
I think when he fought Browne, Werdum held a striking clinic, but then again, Browne just stood in front of him for most of the fight looking dazed and confused.
It was a nice fight. Unfortunately, the most exciting fighter in the UFC at this point is probably Jon Jones and, until he returns, we might see a bunch of boring fights. The only other fights I want to see now are Rockhold vs Weidman and Silva vs the Nevada Athletic Commission.
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I think Werdum's ground game is pretty amazing.
Werdum's striking has improved vastly from where it once was, although he still does not appear elusive or seamless by way of his ability to roll with the punches or employ better footwork. I think he can continue to improve there, but so far so good.
I think when he fought Browne, Werdum held a striking clinic, but then again, Browne just stood in front of him for most of the fight looking dazed and confused.
It was a nice fight. Unfortunately, the most exciting fighter in the UFC at this point is probably Jon Jones and, until he returns, we might see a bunch of boring fights. The only other fights I want to see now are Rockhold vs Weidman and Silva vs the Nevada Athletic Commission.
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will either be the greatest fight ever
or they will neutralise each other
proper fifty fifty fight though
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ken will tap when he walks in the ring like his last ten fights
Tough one to call, I mean, Ken Shamrock hasn't fought in about five years. And at the end of his previous stint was nowhere near what he used to be. That said, Shamrock is a strong submission fighter and a powerful man. He's not as explosive as he used to be. Along with this, his takedowns are likely to be solid, but unspectacular. In addition, his cardio is likely to be a tad weaker than it used to be. Kimbo Slice Like Shamrock, it's been ages since he last fought in the cage. That said, Slice has been fighting in boxing. And that begins to tell the story on him.
Slice has good hands and better than average technical stand up. His striking game is not diverse- in other words, he's a boxer- but he hits hard, has some speed, and understands defense.
On the ground, Slice is at his weakest point. His takedown defense is likely to be average, his takedowns probably won't be there, and his submissions.... Guess is that we won't see much from the man on the ground beyond attempts at ground and pound and/or getting up.
From a submission defense perspective, he was improving the last time we saw him. But now? It's hard to tell.
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will either be the greatest fight ever
or they will neutralise each other
proper fifty fifty fight though
I actually believe Rockhold is a better fighter than Weidman. Rockhold is taller, stronger, faster, has better cardio, way better striking and a strong ground game.
I think that fight will be a war, similar to the Weidman/Machida fight, but even better (at least I hope it's better).
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P.S. I see Weidman at Renzo's all the time and his ground game is downright excellent, but I still believe that in order to win the crowd, he will have to make his striking look seamless. The crowd loves phenomenal strikers.
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Should be a slobberknocker!!!
Morning Report: Kimbo Slice believes Ken Shamrock 'still a threat,' compares him to Bernard Hopkins
Set to finally face UFC Hall of Famer Ken Shamrock at Bellator 138 in St. Louis, famed street fighter Kimbo Slice can't wait for June 19.
The pair were originally booked to fight for the late EliteXC promotion in 2008, but a controversial cut over Shamrock's eye forced the bout to be pulled.
Seven years later, Slice says he's ready to beat the Shamrock of yesteryear.
"Shamrock is still a threat to me," Slice told Jim Ross of The Ross Report. "He's still considered deadly and dangerous to break limbs and submit somebody. I'm just not that motherf***er he's going to submit. I'm just not that guy he's going to tap out. It's not going to happen with me. It's in my DNA to beat his ass.
"I've worked my mind and my body to train for this fight with Shamrock. From back in the day, from many years ago we trained for this fight. This fight isn't going to go the distance."
With the help of a few fudged numbers, Slice compared the 51-year-old Shamrock to some of the greats in combat sports.
"A lot of people ... not a lot of people, actually, just a select few normally just talk about the age as if it's a f***ing factor and it's not," said Slice. "Bernard Hopkins is the man at 52 years old [actually 50]. The head coach at American Top Top, Ricardo Liborio, he's over 50 [actually 47] and can f***ing can anybody. Even these prize fighters that fight for the UFC and like myself in Bellator, he can't be touched.
"Royce Gracie, over 50 [48], a f***ing threat, still. Mike Tyson, 50 [48], a threat. So don't underestimate a guy because of that. You're still as strong as you were when you're in your thirties, you're just a couple years wiser, a couple years older. That doesn't change s**t."
After a TKO loss to Matt Mitrione at UFC 113 in 2010, Slice racked up a 7-0 professional boxing record from 2011 to 2013. It's been five years since either man has fought MMA, but Slice says he's got a plan to defend Shamrock's esteemed ground game.
"Ken is going to try this s**t," said Slice. "We know he is. I'm expecting him to. I want him to. I'm daring him to. I'm almost double dog daring this guy to try to do a takedown or shoot in. What could he do to get me to the ground that I am not prepared for? I'm almost anticipating the takedowns. Because of that, I'm going to impose my will and break his jaw in the first round."
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I actually believe Rockhold is a better fighter than Weidman. Rockhold is taller, stronger, faster, has better cardio, way better striking and a strong ground game.
I think that fight will be a war, similar to the Weidman/Machida fight, but even better (at least I hope it's better).
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P.S. I see Weidman at Renzo's all the time and his ground game is downright excellent, but I still believe that in order to win the crowd, he will have to make his striking look seamless. The crowd loves phenomenal strikers.
I hear you
Weidman has a champions heart though
vitor lit him up
and got fucked up shortly after for his troubles
I think guys like Weidman are very rare in that they can overcome shit through sheer willpower
I agree that luke has most of the advantages
but id never bet against Weidman not now
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I hear you
Weidman has a champions heart though
vitor lit him up
and got fucked up shortly after for his troubles
I think guys like Weidman are very rare in that they can overcome shit through sheer willpower
I agree that luke has most of the advantages
but id never bet against Weidman not now
Agreed.
What Weidman lacks in fancy footwork, masterful striking and speed, he makes up for by way of his heart and determination. The kid looks great at the academy and never gives up.
Everyone at Renzos believes that the only reason he hasn't won the crowd to the extent that some of the other guys have is because when he wins, he doesn't make it look flawless. People like to think of their champions as somewhat invincible (even though we all know that no one is). With Weidman, his two Silva wins sucked (not his fault, silva clowned around, lost and then snapped his leg in the 2nd fight). His Machida fight was a damn war and so he didn't win that one with ease and looked weathered by the end (again, Machida can be difficult sometimes). His Belfort fight was fast and certainly sent a statement, but he was outclassed by way of striking and once he realized that, instinct took over and he went to the ground, which was the smart thing to do (on the flip side, Belfort looked like a white belt on the ground, which can be attributed to Weidman's size, weight and skill set). His wins aren't pretty, but he gets the job done.
If he beats Rockhold, he will attain greatness, I think. If he loses to Rockhold, there will be no shame in that.
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werdums defense still sucks
They will bring Shizzo in to coach him for his next camp.
Jon Jones at 225 lbs would have beat both those guys last night.
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lots of great fights coming up. aldo vs mcgregor, lawler vs mcdonald, dillashaw vs barao, cormier vs gustafsson etc
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After Cain got destroyed on his feet; Cain's coaches then have him permission to go to the ground. Listen to their advice just before the 3rd round. They wanted Cain, hurt & bloody, to then go right into Werdum's strength.
Cain's coaches had the fucking worst strategy ever.
Cain should've been willing to fight on the ground in the 1st round... Before he was tired. Before he was hurt.
Fabricio crushed Cain in the clinch.
Cain needs to regain confidence in his wrestling skills. He got demoralized by Fabricio.
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I am glad you guys are starting to see things my way.
I would also like to warn people not to use MMA math, when trying to predict fights.
Take the Weidman vs. Rockhold matchup:
Weidman was able to survive Belforts's early onslaught, whereas Rockhold got his ass kicked by Vitor.
Weidman made a BJJ blackbelt look like a bitch on the ground, but as some have already stated, Rockhold definately will have a size advantage and should be the stronger fighter as well.
I think that Weidman needs to apply the pressure immediately, and make Rockhold prove he can survive the deep water.
Weidman has already proven he can take flurries from elite strikers (Machida, Belfort)
With saying all of that, picking the winner would just be a guess. I think it could go either way.
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I am glad you guys are starting to see things my way.
I would also like to warn people not to use MMA math, when trying to predict fights.
Take the Weidman vs. Rockhold matchup:
Weidman was able to survive Belforts's early onslaught, whereas Rockhold got his ass kicked by Vitor.
Weidman made a BJJ blackbelt look like a bitch on the ground, but as some have already stated, Rockhold definately will have a size advantage and should be the stronger fighter as well.
I think that Weidman needs to apply the pressure immediately, and make Rockhold prove he can survive the deep water.
Weidman has already proven he can take flurries from elite strikers (Machida, Belfort)
With saying all of that, picking the winner would just be a guess. I think it could go either way.
Weidman will win , it should get a good test for Weidman though
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I am glad you guys are starting to see things my way.
I would also like to warn people not to use MMA math, when trying to predict fights.
Take the Weidman vs. Rockhold matchup:
Weidman was able to survive Belforts's early onslaught, whereas Rockhold got his ass kicked by Vitor.
Weidman made a BJJ blackbelt look like a bitch on the ground, but as some have already stated, Rockhold definately will have a size advantage and should be the stronger fighter as well.
I think that Weidman needs to apply the pressure immediately, and make Rockhold prove he can survive the deep water.
Weidman has already proven he can take flurries from elite strikers (Machida, Belfort)
With saying all of that, picking the winner would just be a guess. I think it could go either way.
Really going out on a limb there, Shizz.
Definately.
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Really going out on a limb there, Shizz.
Definately.
I predict that one of them will emerge victorious.
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I predict that one of them will emerge victorious.
Bet you're on to something.
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I predict that one of them will emerge victorious.
Astounding insight, if Getbig had an MMA Board you would have made a great Moderator on it.
Such riveting MMA acumen.
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Astounding insight, if Getbig had an MMA Board you would have made a great Moderator on it.
Such riveting MMA acumen.
I'm sure it would be a hit. Not sure why Ron has not created one yet.
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I am glad you guys are starting to see things my way.
I would also like to warn people not to use MMA math, when trying to predict fights.
Take the Weidman vs. Rockhold matchup:
Weidman was able to survive Belforts's early onslaught, whereas Rockhold got his ass kicked by Vitor.
Weidman made a BJJ blackbelt look like a bitch on the ground, but as some have already stated, Rockhold definately will have a size advantage and should be the stronger fighter as well.
I think that Weidman needs to apply the pressure immediately, and make Rockhold prove he can survive the deep water.
Weidman has already proven he can take flurries from elite strikers (Machida, Belfort)
With saying all of that, picking the winner would just be a guess. I think it could go either way.
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I'm sure it would be a hit. Not sure why Ron has not created one yet.
I don't know....I will PM his Princess L account and ask him.
There is no way such genius should not be shared with the world.
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We need a head shaking smiley.
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We need a head shaking smiley.
Do you realize that Shizzo has successfully predicted that someone would win the last 20 UFC main event fights?
He is the Stephen Hawking of MMA analysis.
You should hop up out of your recliner chair and bow down in the presence of such brilliance.
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I can't take all of the credit. I am a protege of Onemorerep, and I am certain he takes pride in that.
He only vouches for the best.
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I can't take all of the credit. I am a protege of Onemorerep, and I am certain he takes pride in that.
He only vouches for the best.
My predictions don't always pan out.
I didn't see Anderson losing to Weidman.
I also didn't see Pettis losing to Dos Anjos.
Moving forward, these are my future predictions and I can be very wrong with all of them:
I believe that Jon Jones is the best MMA fighter in the UFC. I think he can probably beat anyone in the UFC regardless of weight class.
I believe that Luke Rockhold will be the guy to beat Weidman, but I feel it will be a 5-round slug fest similar to Weidman/Machida with Rockhold having the slight edge at the end.
I think Werdum will stay dominant in the heavyweight ranks and Cain won't have an answer for him, neither will Dos Santos.
I think Dos Anjos will beat Cerrone in dominant fashion.
I think Anderson Silva will retire and go into full time acting.
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My predictions don't always pan out.
I didn't see Anderson losing to Weidman.
I also didn't see Pettis losing to Dos Anjos.
Moving forward, these are my future predictions and I can be very wrong with all of them:
I believe that Jon Jones is the best MMA fighter in the UFC. I think he can probably beat anyone in the UFC regardless of weight class.
I believe that Luke Rockhold will be the guy to beat Weidman, but I feel it will be a 5-round slug fest similar to Weidman/Machida with Rockhold having the slight edge at the end.
I think Werdum will stay dominant in the heavyweight ranks and Cain won't have an answer for him, neither will Dos Santos.
I think Dos Anjos will beat Cerrone in dominant fashion.
I think Anderson Silva will retire and go into full time acting.
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Exactly. Predictions are nothing more then educated guesses or opinions. There are many people who know as much, if not more then I do about MMA. I never claimed to be an expert or guru, I am just a fan who has an above average knowledge of the sport. 8)
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We need a head shaking smiley.
You mean headnodding smiley.
Shizzo is MMAs greatest analyst.
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i cant remember but i probably didnt see weidman win against anderson.
i did see pettis lose and won money on it.
i believe jones isnt in the ufc and i predict he wont be back.
i see weidman not only win against rockhold but destroy him making people wonder what the hell they were thinking.
werdum will win every fight until he retires at 40.
dos anjos will not beat cerrone because cerrone will injure himself bullriding.
anderson silva will retire and become a childrens bjj coach.
i also put 150 dollars (high roller here!) on aldo beating mcgregor.
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Exactly. Predictions are nothing more then educated guesses or opinions. There are many people who know as much, if not more then I do about MMA. I never claimed to be an expert or guru, I am just a fan who has an above average knowledge of the sport. 8)
Aww come on now, you're selling yourself short here. There is no one on the planet that knows the insides and outs of MMA like you.
Pat Millitech has Shizzo posters lining the walls of his gym
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Cain getting owned was beautiful ;D
Brown Pride and yet speaks shit Spanish
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werdum said his daughter was born in usa so she's american.
funny that is, a lot of people all over the world wants to become american citizens, then we have people who are but rather claim theyre not?
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Cain getting owned was beautiful ;D
Brown Pride and yet speaks shit Spanish
What's worse is that Werdum (The Brazilian) speaks way better Spanish than Cain. Werdum's Spanish isn't great, but compared to Cain, it's worlds apart.
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El Nino is worse with his Spanish ;D
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El Nino is worse with his Spanish ;D
Que pena... El Mexicano que habla español de turista.
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i wouldnt know, im not mexican
i take it you are if you can tell