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http://superstrengthshow.com/frank-zane-golden-era-secrets-to-physical-perfection/
THE BEEF
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A good interview but a bit too abstract for me... wish he would talk about bodybuilding directly more often
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Zane was the least-gifted mr O.
Kudos to him.
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There is another great one ( month old ) THE BEEF will try to find and post,
THE BEEF
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There is another great one ( month old ) THE BEEF will try to find and post,
THE BEEF
Mr.Zane too told Basile to piss off , Vincenzo was crying about that on Ironage site ;D
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Mr.Zane too told Basile to piss off , Vincenzo was crying about that on Ironage site ;D
That is true . . . said he did not correspond with people he dd not know. THE BEEF emails him and gets responses once a month or so. Of coarse THE BEEF never claimed he could beat Frank Zane.
THE BEEF
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That is true . . . said he did not correspond with people he dd not know. THE BEEF emails him and gets responses once a month or so. Of coarse THE BEEF never claimed he could beat Frank Zane.
THE BEEF
Would be good is Ironage re-start again. Steve Reeves ranch & Nubret topic was my favourite ;D
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Zane was the least-gifted mr O.
Kudos to him.
No.That was Chris Dickerson.
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They called Zane the "chemist".
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There is another great one ( month old ) THE BEEF will try to find and post,
THE BEEF
Now that is the perfect man! :o
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Does he mention his lifelong resentment of Basile, or how he became THE BEEF in order to stalk the poor fella into a straight-jacket?
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They called Zane the "chemist".
Let me guess - you think it was because he made steroids???? Lol.
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Movie star good looks
THE BEEF
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http://goldenaesthetics.org/
THE BEEF
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Voted by Flex Mag as the greatest physique of all time . . . This is what vic could beat. 1970 M. Canada and five years later 15th in the MR. Austrailia, meanwhile Frank wins three more Universe titles - did you know he had six in total - and three sandows. Frank went on to build exercise equipment ( which sold VERY WELL ) and market a line of supplements which still sell very well.
THE BEEF
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Frank was over-rated, especially by himself. He is just an old fart now.
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How does one overrate the greatest physique of all time ?
THE BEEF
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the only difference between then and now is that they trained naturally for a lot longer before hitting the juice. Also the juice at the time didnt make their bodies balloons like nowadays stack. Aside from this, there s nothing much to learn it s a pretty blank interview and zane seems a bit full of himself. Most of his statements are pretty lame too. When he says everybody look the same today, well everybody looked the same in the past too, cause it s entirely defined by the drug stack of the time and the kind of training. Each era has its "typical" kind of results/ bodies.
I d also add there are nowadays tons of natural or guys on low amounts of juice who look like he did and even better . They re all over the internet. Tons of pictures of guys who train intensely natural or on low amounts of the same kind of juice he used and look as if not more impressive than he ever did.
The more i listen to these old farts the more i realize they have pretty much nothing to say or teach you cant learn by yourself especially in this day and age of the internet.
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How does one overrate the greatest physique of all time ?
THE BEEF
Zane beat an out of shape Arnold in Miami in 1968. He couldn't beat Arnold in 1980 when Frank was the reigning Mr Olympia for three years.
What did Frank do? Cried in his hotel room instead of going on the Harbour Cruise with everyone else.
Most people here on Getbig would say Arnold is the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
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Frank was over-rated, especially by himself. He is just an old fart now.
Why are you unable to just accept that he was in a totally different league than you in both bodybuilding and business? That pic is bs - Zane is still in great shape
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the only difference between then and now is that they trained naturally for a lot longer before hitting the juice. Also the juice at the time didnt make their bodies balloons like nowadays stack. Aside from this, there s nothing much to learn it s a pretty blank interview and zane seems a bit full of himself. Most of his statements are pretty lame too. When he says everybody look the same today, well everybody looked the same in the past too, cause it s entirely defined by the drug stack of the time and the kind of training. Each era has its "typical" kind of results/ bodies.
I d also add there are nowadays tons of natural or guys on low amounts of juice who look like he did and even better . They re all over the internet. Tons of pictures of guys who train intensely natural or on low amounts of the same kind of juice he used and look as if not more impressive than he ever did.
The more i listen to these old farts the more i realize they have pretty much nothing to say or teach you cant learn by yourself especially in this day and age of the internet.
Frank is knowledgeable for sure. However, things have changed since he last competed. He said it took time for him to win the Mr Olympia. Yes, with Sergio banned and Arnold retired. He still beat a lot of good guys like
Robby and Mike. Statements about the current guys all looking the same is preposterous. Most have a certain look but Kai looks nothing like Phil or Rami or Shawn. You can't get that huge in a couple of years. I give credit to everyone who
gets huge.
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Why are you unable to just accept that he was in a totally different league than you in both bodybuilding and business? That pic is bs - Zane is still in great shape
We are comparing Frank to everyone in bodybuilding. Frank had surgery on his shoulders recently so we will see if he can get into shape again. He looks small in
the video. Btw, his gym equipment is simple compared to most of the things I built.
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Two more captures from the video. Frank doesn't look like a big bodybuilder anymore. Age catches up with everyone sooner or later.
He hasn't trained much because of the surgery so perhaps he will look better in a few months.
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We are comparing Frank to everyone in bodybuilding. Frank had surgery on his shoulders recently so we will see if he can get into shape again. He looks small in
the video. Btw, his gym equipment is simple compared to most of the things I built.
Looks like a pretty good and muscular leg for a man in his 70's. Show us your vic.
THE BEEF
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We are comparing Frank to everyone in bodybuilding. Frank had surgery on his shoulders recently so we will see if he can get into shape again. He looks small in
the video. Btw, his gym equipment is simple compared to most of the things I built.
he looks lean, healthy and muscular, while you re obviously...fat. Sorry to break it to you, he still wins. Actually he looks in great shape for his age.
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he looks lean, healthy and muscular, while you re obviously...fat. Sorry to break it to you, he still wins. Actually he looks in great shape for his age.
Exactly . . . vic is fucked up.
THE BEEF
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he looks lean, healthy and muscular, while you re obviously...fat. Sorry to break it to you, he still wins. Actually he looks in great shape for his age.
He was voted the greatest bodybuilder of all time but no longer looks like he lifts weights. End of story. He isn't in good shape for his age. I have
never looked that small. My calves are 17 3/4 cold and I don't even train them.
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He was voted the greatest bodybuilder of all time but no longer looks like he lifts weights. End of story. He isn't in good shape for his age. I have
never looked that small. My calves are 17 3/4 cold and I don't even train them.
he looks like he lifts and eat healhty. You dont look like you lift or lifted weights at all, you re just...fat. You re completely delusional and obviously jealous. You probably convince yourself you re "bigger" than him, but you re just fatter. No one would want to look like you, any man would prefer to look like him instead of you reaching his 70s. Also, he looks way better facially than you, with your bloated moronic moonface and fat , round nose.
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We are comparing Frank to everyone in bodybuilding. Frank had surgery on his shoulders recently so we will see if he can get into shape again. He looks small in
the video. Btw, his gym equipment is simple compared to most of the things I built.
Vince,
Just out of curiosity, should gym equipment be complicated? Their purpose is to aid you in resistance training and there are only so many ways to work a muscle.
I think that when it comes to gym equipment, things should be kept simple, as most gyms will probably not want to purchase the equipment if its operation is so complicated that it would serve as a deterrent to gym members using it.
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He was voted the greatest bodybuilder of all time but no longer looks like he lifts weights. End of story. He isn't in good shape for his age. I have
never looked that small. My calves are 17 3/4 cold and I don't even train them.
WHAT THE FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POST A PIC YOU OLD FOOL.
THE BEEF
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Vince,
Just out of curiosity, should gym equipment be complicated? Their purpose is to aid you in resistance training and there are only so many ways to work a muscle.
I think that when it comes to gym equipment, things should be kept simple.
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Bingo . . . vics equipment would be in constant need of re-adjustment. It would take a manfactures rep to assemble it and lets just wait for a part to be delivered. vic once posted he told Roz he'd be a millionaire, well vic Frank is several times over.
OMR, you are correct simple design keeps manufacturing costs down, shipping cheaper and keep overall production costs as low as can be. vic has no fucken idea as to what he is talking about.
THE BEEF
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Vince,
Just out of curiosity, should gym equipment be complicated? Their purpose is to aid you in resistance training and there are only so many ways to work a muscle.
I think that when it comes to gym equipment, things should be kept simple, as most gyms will probably not want to purchase the equipment if its operation is so complicated that it would serve as a deterrent to gym members using it.
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Gym equipment should be as simple or as complicated as the movement dictates. You cannot make a machine that has resistance in two degrees of freedom simple. At best you simplify the complexity. That is always desirable
in engineering. Re the topic here, Frank has come up with simple apparatus and nothing resembling a machine at all. No moving parts. So there is no comparison to what I have designed and built.
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Bingo . . . vics equipment would be in constant need of re-adjustment. It would take a manfactures rep to assemble it and lets just wait for a part to be delivered. vic once posted he told Roz he'd be a millionaire, well vic Frank is several times over.
OMR, you are correct simple design keeps manufacturing costs down, shipping cheaper and keep overall production costs as low as can be. vic has no fucken idea as to what he is talking about.
THE BEEF
I build my machines to last. So you are talking out of your ass about what I do. I don't build equipment for other gyms or people.
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I build my machines to last. So you are talking out of your ass about what I do. I don't build equipment for other gyms or people.
Obvisously why your worth millions
THE BEEF
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Gym equipment should be as simple or as complicated as the movement dictates. You cannot make a machine that has resistance in two degrees of freedom simple. At best you simplify the complexity. That is always desirable
in engineering. Re the topic here, Frank has come up with simple apparatus and nothing resembling a machine at all. No moving parts. So there is no comparison to what I have designed and built.
What would shippig cost be on this?
THE BEEF
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the only difference between then and now is that they trained naturally for a lot longer before hitting the juice. Also the juice at the time didnt make their bodies balloons like nowadays stack. Aside from this, there s nothing much to learn it s a pretty blank interview and zane seems a bit full of himself. Most of his statements are pretty lame too. When he says everybody look the same today, well everybody looked the same in the past too, cause it s entirely defined by the drug stack of the time and the kind of training. Each era has its "typical" kind of results/ bodies.
I d also add there are nowadays tons of natural or guys on low amounts of juice who look like he did and even better . They re all over the internet. Tons of pictures of guys who train intensely natural or on low amounts of the same kind of juice he used and look as if not more impressive than he ever did.
The more i listen to these old farts the more i realize they have pretty much nothing to say or teach you cant learn by yourself especially in this day and age of the internet.
Yes, arnold trained for ages before he started slamming gear ::)
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He was voted the greatest bodybuilder of all time but no longer looks like he lifts weights. End of story. He isn't in good shape for his age. I have
never looked that small. My calves are 17 3/4 cold and I don't even train them.
I don't even...
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17 3/4 inch untrained bloated fat calves are nothing to boast about.
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Vince,
Just out of curiosity, should gym equipment be complicated? Their purpose is to aid you in resistance training and there are only so many ways to work a muscle.
I think that when it comes to gym equipment, things should be kept simple, as most gyms will probably not want to purchase the equipment if its operation is so complicated that it would serve as a deterrent to gym members using it.
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Too sensible, won't fly.
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Frank was over-rated, especially by himself. He is just an old fart now.
really Zane in that pic ? No....?
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really Zane in that pic ? No....?
No, vic got pissed and pasted Franks head on a pic of wes. Nuff said.
THE BEEF
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Frank was over-rated, especially by himself. He is just an old fart now.
FUCK OFF YOU ARE MENTAL GROTESQUES JERK.
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Frank is knowledgeable for sure. However, things have changed since he last competed. He said it took time for him to win the Mr Olympia. Yes, with Sergio banned and Arnold retired. He still beat a lot of good guys like
Robby and Mike. Statements about the current guys all looking the same is preposterous. Most have a certain look but Kai looks nothing like Phil or Rami or Shawn. You can't get that huge in a couple of years. I give credit to everyone who
gets huge.
U A MOTHERFUCKING SHIT HEAD & PHOTO THIEF , Mr. Zane NEVER EVER POSED 4 U , fake image 8)
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That is true . . . said he did not correspond with people he dd not know. THE BEEF emails him and gets responses once a month or so. Of coarse THE BEEF never claimed he could beat Frank Zane.
THE BEEF
You couldn`t beat an egg!! LOL :D
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the only difference between then and now is that they trained naturally for a lot longer before hitting the juice. Also the juice at the time didnt make their bodies balloons like nowadays stack. Aside from this, there s nothing much to learn it s a pretty blank interview and zane seems a bit full of himself. Most of his statements are pretty lame too. When he says everybody look the same today, well everybody looked the same in the past too, cause it s entirely defined by the drug stack of the time and the kind of training. Each era has its "typical" kind of results/ bodies.
I d also add there are nowadays tons of natural or guys on low amounts of juice who look like he did and even better . They re all over the internet. Tons of pictures of guys who train intensely natural or on low amounts of the same kind of juice he used and look as if not more impressive than he ever did.
The more i listen to these old farts the more i realize they have pretty much nothing to say or teach you cant learn by yourself especially in this day and age of the internet.
You know absolutely jackshit about golden age bodybuilding and gear as opposed to todays crapola.
HTH
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Vince,
Just out of curiosity, should gym equipment be complicated? Their purpose is to aid you in resistance training and there are only so many ways to work a muscle.
I think that when it comes to gym equipment, things should be kept simple, as most gyms will probably not want to purchase the equipment if its operation is so complicated that it would serve as a deterrent to gym members using it.
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When Arthur Jones started his Nautilus company there was a lot of interest in his complicated machines. Someone told Arthur about how he could simplify one of his machines and was told that he liked them complex! Of course, Nautilus eventually made things simpler and even abandoned those awful chains. Arthur wrote a lot about the advantages of his machines and I guess it helped that they were seen an complex. It helped people accept more of what he was saying. In other words, since his machines provided rotary resistance, balanced resistance, and especially resistance that changed according to strength curves they had to be complicated. The more complex the machines were the harder they were to copy as well. I know I was curious about trying his machines to see if they were in sync with my strength curves and found them not to be anything like I imagined. Arthur marketed his machines in a way that made them superior to what anyone else was selling. Eventually the bodybuilders discovered that some were okay but they weren't necessarily better than even free weights. When I was at Golds Gym in 1991 they had lines of gym equipment donated by equipment companies. Surprisingly, the Nautilus machines were in the second, smaller room, of that Mecca and it was easy to get on them because hardly anyone used them.
When you design a new piece of gym equipment you have goals in mind. It has to function properly and pivot in the right places, etc. It has to be adjustable for all individuals. It has to look good and be safe to use. It has to be strong and built to last. It has to be easy to replace worn parts. It has to be stable on the floor. When you consider these points and others it isn't easy to make good equipment. When you do build a new machine you then have to test it and make changes. By about the 3rd version you are close to having what you set out to do.
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17 3/4 inch untrained bloated fat calves are nothing to boast about.
My calves are hard like steel! Look upon my works ye mortals and despair!
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We are comparing Frank to everyone in bodybuilding. Frank had surgery on his shoulders recently so we will see if he can get into shape again. He looks small in
the video. Btw, his gym equipment is simple compared to most of the things I built.
He looks to be Manspreading in this pic. Intentional? Wasn't he from Palm Springs?
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Frank is over the hill, especially after destroying his shoulders from decades of excessive training. It remains to be seen whether he can look like a bodybuilder again.
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He was voted the greatest bodybuilder of all time but no longer looks like he lifts weights. End of story. He isn't in good shape for his age. I have
never looked that small. My calves are 17 3/4 cold and I don't even train them.
You are delusional. Zane still looks great for his age. Look at his calves. They are bigger and shaped nicely and bigger than some current Olympia competitors.
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You are delusional. Zane still looks great for his age. Look at his calves. They are bigger and shaped nicely and bigger than some current Olympia competitors.
Naw, little calves. He never had big calves. Little ankles, though, so perhaps they look bigger than they were.
Zane looks like an old man now which is exactly what he is. He has a little gut, no chest and has lost some of his width because his delts have atrophied.
The videos don't lie.
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Why is his hand on his crotch in the second picture above? Tribute to the Ken Waller Pumping Iron floor pic?
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Naw, little calves. He never had big calves. Little ankles, though, so perhaps they look bigger than they were.
Zane looks like an old man now which is exactly what he is. He has a little gut, no chest and has lost some of his width because his delts have atrophied.
The videos don't lie.
Still trying to comprehend the critic's mindset here. i mean, he knows he's Basile, right? And we all know how old, shrunken-fat, and Scoutmaster-creepy he looks; he should probably know this, too, one would think.
So how exactly do you suppose this kind of brain works?
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Frank Zane's birthday is this coming Sunday June 28th. He will be 73.
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"Ex." See, she got out just in time so as not to be stuck with him in the afterlife.
Forgot to mention, she's about 5'3'' :-\
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Frank Zane's birthday is this coming Sunday June 28th. He will be 73.
& is still SLIM :)
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Frank was over-rated, especially by himself. He is just an old fart now.
What would Roz do to get that cock :P
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Naw, little calves. He never had big calves. Little ankles, though, so perhaps they look bigger than they were.
Zane looks like an old man now which is exactly what he is. He has a little gut, no chest and has lost some of his width because his delts have atrophied.
The videos don't lie.
Bodybuilding is about illusion. Even better that his calves look big because of his superior genetics. Cory Everson has small joints too and looked incredible. You are so quick to try and discredit a legend. First Arnold and now Frank Zane. Show some class for once. Stop being jealous and admire them instead.
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Bodybuilding is about illusion. Even better that his calves look big because of his superior genetics. Cory Everson has small joints too and looked incredible. You are so quick to try and discredit a legend. First Arnold and how Frank Zane. Show some class for once. Stop being jealous and admire them instead.
Just telling it the way it is. Okay, his calves haven't disappeared because he does a lot of walking. We all age and no longer resemble who we were when we competed.
Same thing happened to Arnold.
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post a pic of your calves
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post a pic of your calves
Outed!
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Outed!
Not at all. I will post when The Beef posts a photo of himself.
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vince has a point he batters Nautilus
nautilus sales 2013- 220m.
vince basile- 0.
Vince can you at least see how people can't take you seriously?
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Why is his hand on his crotch in the second picture above? Tribute to the Ken Waller Pumping Iron floor pic?
Did you know that Frank Zane was taken out of all the footage in pumping Iron ?
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
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Zane has some serious arthritis in his hands.
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Did you know that Frank Zane was taken out of all the footage in pumping Iron ?
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
Guess he showed up the Star :D
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Gotta love Frank Z.
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Just telling it the way it is. Okay, his calves haven't disappeared because he does a lot of walking. We all age and no longer resemble who we were when we competed.
Same thing happened to Arnold.
How the fuck do you know how much walking he does? Fool.
THE BEEF
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off topic but clarence bass is in great shape for his age
and sylvester stallone to, robby robinson still looks good
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How the fuck do you know how much walking he does? Fool.
THE BEEF
What a dope. I listened to the video where he is interviewed. He said he goes for walks with his dog and on his own and sometimes with Christine.
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No, vic got pissed and pasted Franks head on a pic of wes. Nuff said.
THE BEEF
haha ;D
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What a dope. I listened to the video where he is interviewed. He said he goes for walks with his dog and on his own and sometimes with Christine.
He walks his dog . . . and???? You have got to be the dumbest mother fucker out there - total AHOLE.
THE BEEF
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Bodybuilding is about illusion. Even better that his calves look big because of his superior genetics. Cory Everson has small joints too and looked incredible. You are so quick to try and discredit a legend. First Arnold and now Frank Zane. Show some class for once. Stop being jealous and admire them instead.
FACTS: Basile was banned from IronAge site by Mr.Shawn Perine (Editor of Muscle & Fitness mag) for posting garbage about Arnold.
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My only beef with Zane is that I always think about a quote from the Pumping Iron book where he was quoted when viewing a women's BB show as saying he dint think there was any archetype for it.
I always thought that sounded pretentious. I also think it is substantively wrong.
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Vince we all walk. ::)