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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FitChic78 on February 28, 2006, 01:27:07 PM
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Since we have a thread about the "coolest BB", I thought it would be interesting to hear some of the opinions as to who is the most arrogant pro in the industry...
My pick is Shawn Ray. Sorry man. As much as I love your physique and consider you to be a great business man, you score the lowest among the rest when it comes to meeting with your fans.
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Louie.
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Gustavo -- in his mind he is a multiple Mr. O already
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Titus and Kamali. At least Titus won a pro show.
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Since we have a thread about the "coolest BB", I thought it would be interesting to hear some of the opinions as to who is the most arrogant pro in the industry...
My pick is Shawn Ray. Sorry man. As much as I love your physique and consider you to be a great business man, you score the lowest among the rest when it comes to meeting with your fans.
Are you hating on the man because he spurned your advances at some point?
I know how you women are. :)
DIV
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Ok...
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Kamali, Gustavo, Cutler, and def of course The Man himself Arnold (but i dont think he made an ass of himself acting that way like the others)
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Are you hating on the man because he spurned your advances at some point?
I know how you women are. :)
DIV
DIV, I've met him at the Expos in the past as a fan as well some of my friends had a chance to and were not too psyched about talking to the dude. Not sure what you meant by rejection at some point...Nevertheless, don't get the thread off the subject. Read the topic, buddy...Peace!
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Are you hating on the man because he spurned your advances at some point?
I know how you women are. :)
DIV
She probably wasn't man enough for Shawn. ;D
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Please, I am sure not everyone walks away from meeting you Thrill to death either.
I have good days and bad days, depends on who and what I am dealing with, including you and your friends.
Kisses,
S. Ray
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I personally dont dwell on what people think of me, I can hardly contain myself when people size me up at shows and run to the boards to talk about how short, conceited, stuck up, cocky, bald, etc I am.
I love you guys, why else would I keep coming back here?
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I personally dont dwell on what people think of me, I can hardly contain myself when people size me up at shows and run to the boards to talk about how short, conceited, stuck up, cocky, bald, etc I am.
I love you guys, why else would I keep coming back here?
Shawn, are you 5'7 exactly?
If this is such a big deal, why not just wear shoe lifts? You could easily appear 5'9 or 5'10 with a good pair of lifts.
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People commonly mistake confidance and success for being concieted, this usaly occurs by the individual whom makes these allegations of one being concieted , is usaly found to be unconfident in themselfs !
I have never found you to be conceited Shawn on the numerous times we have meet , but I have always noted that you were a strong confident individual whom had a remarkable passion for what you beleived in and what you were/are doing !!
Thats not being concieted thats being "hymself"
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Gustavo -- in his mind he is a multiple Mr. O already
I agree 100%... Gustavo is way too full of himself.....
I hate to see it if he DOES win the Olympia... his already huge meathead will swell to incalcuable proportions...
:-\
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I personally dont dwell on what people think of me, I can hardly contain myself when people size me up at shows and run to the boards to talk about how short, conceited, stuck up, cocky, bald, etc I am.
I love you guys, why else would I keep coming back here?
If all the pros had the same mentality as s. ray when it comes to peoples opinions then they would all love getbig rather then write about how bad getbig is in MD every month because somebody cracked a joke about them on a board.
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People commonly mistake confidance and success for being concieted, this usaly occurs by the individual whom makes these allegations of one being concieted , is usaly found to be unconfident in themselfs !
I have never found you to be conceited Shawn on the numerous times we have meet , but I have always noted that you were a strong confident individual whom had a remarkable passion for what you beleived in and what you were/are doing !!
Thats not being concieted thats being "hymself"
I agree completely. Shawn is cocky but he has a right to be. He's on the level and when he praises himself he's speaking solid objective truth. He knows exactly who that is. Maybe it's not as humble as he can be, but he sure has a right to believe what he does.
Don Youngblood was an example of a pro who had a right to be confident in this manner too but was extremely humble. Nothing wrong with that either.
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Since we have a thread about the "coolest BB", I thought it would be interesting to hear some of the opinions as to who is the most arrogant pro in the industry...
My pick is Shawn Ray. Sorry man. As much as I love your physique and consider you to be a great business man, you score the lowest among the rest when it comes to meeting with your fans.
Gotta disagree. At the Ironman I detected no arrogants what so ever with my son and I.
BUT, on the otherside of the spectrum Kevin Leverone didn't crack a smile or even look people in the eye when they went to talk to him. He just gave off a very non-approachable vibe!!
www.darksidebodybuilding .com
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its more like why does shawn keep coming back
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its tough to say if you have never met them in person.
but if you go by what you read i would probably say Ferigno.....then maybe shawn or flex
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I personally dont dwell on what people think of me, I can hardly contain myself when people size me up at shows and run to the boards to talk about how short, conceited, stuck up, cocky, bald, etc I am.
I love you guys, why else would I keep coming back here?
i wasnt even thinking of him lol
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I don't agree with the comments about Shawn Ray, I've met him at the Toronto Pro and he was a class act all the way! very nice and friendly guy.
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I don't agree with the comments about Shawn Ray, I've met him at the Toronto Pro and he was a class act all the way! very nice and friendly guy.
there appears to be many more conceited than shawn ray
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Definetly.. Ronnie seems like a real jackass, I haven't met him in person, but from what I've seen in interviews, on Leno and on the Olympia he's a conceited, egomaniacal prick, true he may be Mr.O but he comes off like there's no one that should even be allowed on stage next to him. I also don't like his comments about other bodybuilders, everyone's smoking crack, whatever.
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DIV, I've met him at the Expos in the past as a fan as well some of my friends had a chance to and were not too psyched about talking to the dude. Not sure what you meant by rejection at some point...Nevertheless, don't get the thread off the subject. Read the topic, buddy...Peace!
Everytime I had to talk to Shawn at a show he has been really friendly. He introduced me to his wife, talked at length about this site and touched on BBing. But you have to realize that when you are standing on your feet for 10 plus hours and get asked the same question over and over, it may be difficult to be in a good mood all day. Add to the fact if some guys are competing in a show and are tired and hungry.
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Since we have a thread about the "coolest BB", I thought it would be interesting to hear some of the opinions as to who is the most arrogant pro in the industry...
My pick is Shawn Ray. Sorry man. As much as I love your physique and consider you to be a great business man, you score the lowest among the rest when it comes to meeting with your fans.
LOL, actually it's the exact opposite, people at Gold's Gym venice praised how nice he was to the "visitors" and he would actuallly stop his workout to take pics, you must not know many pros and are just picking shawn to get a rise out of him.
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there appears to be many more coneited than shawn ray
definately!
but like i think someone said...shawn may be conceited but he has earned the right. same goes for my earlier comment about flex.
Ferigno on the other hand just seems like a jerk
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Titus and Kamali. At least Titus won a pro show.
Hmm. What pro show did Titus win??
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Hmm. What pro show did Titus win??
I think it was the toranto pro years ago
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Shawn
You, Lee Priest, Richard Jones, Bob Chic, George Farah and all the other pros that post on GetBig have my respect, and condolences ;D
You guys have shown physiques that are among the most muscular, defined and balanced the world has ever seen, and you guys are torn apart like a gazelle in a pride of lions on these boards. But it seems you all have put it into perspective and treated it for what it is...just an internet message board, so what's the big deal.
I remember an interview with the comedian Bill Murray a few years back where he was asked how he feels about his fame and fortune. He said he you could keep the fame, all he wants is the fortune! If only bodybuilding had the fortune part, LOL.
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Shawn
You, Lee Priest, Richard Jones, Bob Chic, George Farah and all the other pros that post on GetBig have my respect, and condolences ;D
You guys have shown physiques that are among the most muscular, defined and balanced the world has ever seen, and you guys are torn apart like a gazelle in a pride of lions on these boards. But it seems you all have put it into perspective and treated it for what it is...just an internet message board, so what's the big deal.
I remember an interview with the comedian Bill Murray a few years back where he was asked how he feels about his fame and fortune. He said he you could keep the fame, all he wants is the fortune! If only bodybuilding had the fortune part, LOL.
Would you like some kneepads ;D
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I personally dont dwell on what people think of me, I can hardly contain myself when people size me up at shows and run to the boards to talk about how short, conceited, stuck up, cocky, bald, etc I am.
I love you guys, why else would I keep coming back here?
Yes but ya gotta admit Shawn, retards are fun to watch deda-deee.
BTW how is your Colorado show plans going? Howard
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DIV, I've met him at the Expos in the past as a fan as well some of my friends had a chance to and were not too psyched about talking to the dude. Not sure what you meant by rejection at some point...Nevertheless, don't get the thread off the subject. Read the topic, buddy...Peace!
Peace.......my ass. ::)
You sound like a hater to me, "FitChic78".
Who cares if you or your friends weren't "psyched" about talking to him. I don't think he cares.
Like I said, I think you have another agenda. I think he didn't feel your flow so you are getting an attitude. It happens.
Someone's ego was hurt..... :-\
DIV
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Victor and Chris Cormier are couple of cool dudes.... they call each other and smoke blunts...
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Victor and Chris Cormier are couple of cool dudes.... they call each other and smoke blunts...
My bad, the blunt that I smoked made me think i was posting in the Cool BB thread..
I met Ferrigno, he is a dickhead
I saw Arnold, he didnt see me
I met Jason Arntz, he thought he was gangsta, for a smurf
I met, Pulumbo, he was in a club with guys who pluck their eye brows
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I met Jason Arntz, he thought he was gangsta, for a smurf
^He would still beat your ass though, wouldn't he? :)
It would look bad if you called him a smurf and he made you his smurfette....eh?
Regardless of how short he is, you'd wouldn't confront him anyway.
DIV
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definately!
but like i think someone said...shawn may be conceited but he has earned the right. same goes for my earlier comment about flex.
Ferigno on the other hand just seems like a jerk
I only met Shawn a couple times over the years and brifly at a booth. He seems ok to me. Plus anyone can have a bad day or just have had enough, etc.
For my money ol' Richy Gaspari (former 2nd pl Mr O behind Lee Haney) was a full blown A-hole , in person back in his prime in the mid 80's. He was a the featured guest pro at the SE Golds classic in 1986 held in Fayetteville NC.
He was a complete buttmonkey the ENTIRE 3 days he was there. For starters he made the owner/promoter kick everyone out of the gym except a couple of the gym staff on friday night. He had them load the plates and other wts as he worked out and they said he ordered them around like some King.He was scheduled to do a seminar after the PJ but said he felt tired and left right after the prejudging as he walked out out the door to the meet promoter. At the night show he showed up to guest pose, walked right into the back , ignored EVERYONE.
He was to go on just before the overall posedown for the men. I had won the Lt Hvy class and was thrilled to be in my first overall posedown. He made a couple of the staff, guard this little room he was in and took most of the wts and pump stuff, mirrors, etc for his own private use. Me and the others in the posedown were left with very little left to get ready for our overall posedown ( * I ended up 2nd to Johny Stewart)
As he was leaving the theatre an Army special forces guy stationed at Ft Bragg , that trained in my gym, went up to him for an autograph, Gaspari kinda pushed by him and said something like; "...later buddy, busy now..."
My Army buddy had too much class to say anything. I kidded him, that Gaspari didn't know how clase he came to mising it up with an actual deadly force guy...he laughed and shook his head. Truth is, the special ops guy was taller and less massive but, Gaspari had no idea of what the guy did for living and only judged him via his muscle size.
I heard EVERYONE there say the same kind of stuff about ol' Richy that weekend...maybe his dog died and he was pissed...who the f--- knows, but he was by far the biggest A-hole pro I ever saw.
Now, Lee Haney was the exact opposite and always a class act!
Howard
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Over the past 5-6 years, I've gotten to meet/see most IFBB pros and only one was a prick...on three separate occasions. Leverone...full blown, for sure :P
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It is a little tough to judge ones overall character via a very brief passing at a public event , even the briefiest of aknowledgement by a pro or celebrity can be missed read, ie , some one says hullo to you whilst you are rushing to the tiolet as you have been holding on for 2 hours due to your commitment to fans at the booth, and you reply "hey mate' as you scamper pass can be seen as rude and conceited as you actualty didnt stop to say hullo and pay homeage to the indidviduals appreciation of you !! Pros usally at these events try there hardest to be nice and open to any fan apreciation , remember they are most likly in the sport because they desired to be noticed in the first place,isolated little passing buy incidents cant be used to judge ones character surely ?!
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Peace.......my ass. ::)
You sound like a hater to me, "FitChic78".
Who cares if you or your friends weren't "psyched" about talking to him. I don't think he cares.
Like I said, I think you have another agenda. I think he didn't feel your flow so you are getting an attitude. It happens.
Someone's ego was hurt..... :-\
DIV
DIV, as mentioned previously, this thread was started to see what opinions BB fans have about "pros". It was not directed to pick on Shawn or anyone else in particular. Somehow, people get it all twisted and instead of sticking to the topic, it turns into picking on those who post their opinions on the board. No wonder so many interesting topics get dropped due to people posting some stupid comments not pertaining to a topic. In this case, you seem to be so entertained by choosing to get your last word as to what I had to say. That was my sole opinion which was based not only on meeting him but also knowing what other "pros" think of him. I am not sure how much you know about his reputation but at one point it didn't used to be all that. No need to tap into the past history of what he's said and done during his BB career. He seems to have changed his ways around quite a bit and much credit to him for that!And yes I have been around enough to know quite a few of them. Not sure exactly why what I said has gotten you all winded up about it that you have to keep coming back with your irrelevant comments...
As to the rest who said that they disagreed with me or that Shawn could care less, that is perfectly fine. The topic was not intended for that. I just wanted to see who or how many names would be mentioned when it comes to not so admirable figures in the BB industry just in comparison to those who are on a "highly thought of and admired" list. And one more thing, when it comes to liking or disliking someone, I don't base it just on a brief instance where one may indeed be in not of their best moods. However, there are those "pros" who still manage to be nice, polite, friendly and so on whether it is with fans, at the expos person to person, on the discussion boards as this one or among their own peers in the sport. At the last Mr. O, Shawn didn't even stand at his own booth for 2 days from 11 too 5. Some others did and somehow they were friendly, polite and open to discussions until it closed down. This is just to relate to what you, HDCOR said previously. We all get tired, hungry, headaches and so forth. But it is an overall presence of a person and whether or not they hold up to their core character. There are many BB's today who are just as established and have a fair right to be confident and that by no means is a bad thing. They've worked for it and fully deserve to act that way! However, there are those who still manage to be humble and proud of their accomlishements without being all cocky. They are not loud, don't talk shit about others, respectful of their relationships, educated and so forth. It is simply some of the "pros" really care about what they say and how they present themselves while others don't give a crap. That's where that arrogant attitude comes in. I've heard many names that people refer to when they think of a "pro" that they consider a role model and have a great respect for. Shawn's name does not come to mind except for the fact of having one of the most aesthetically pleasing and symmetrical physiques in the history of the bodybuilding...
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^He would still beat your ass though, wouldn't he? :)
It would look bad if you called him a smurf and he made you his smurfette....eh?
Regardless of how short he is, you'd wouldn't confront him anyway.
DIV
That is true , because I am a civilized person and do not go into peoples faces and call them a smurf..but i have a height advantage over him and a significant longer wingspan... I am strong enough to knock him out with one puch an fast enough to dodge whatever he would throw at me ..and i really believe that. Have i fought before ..yes , do i fight people for fun ...no ...am I scared of Jason Arntz ..no, Is he bigger than me ?? Muscle wise yes, overall.. maybe by 15 lbs... but if he was coming at me full steam i wouldnt care.
JAE
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And i would make him your smurfette
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DIV, as mentioned previously, this thread was started to see what opinions BB fans have about "pros". It was not directed to pick on Shawn or anyone else in particular. Somehow, people get it all twisted and instead of sticking to the topic, it turns into picking on those who post their opinions on the board. No wonder so many interesting topics get dropped due to people posting some stupid comments not pertaining to a topic. In this case, you seem to be so entertained by choosing to get your last word as to what I had to say. That was my sole opinion which was based not only on meeting him but also knowing what other "pros" think of him. I am not sure how much you know about his reputation but at one point it didn't used to be all that. No need to tap into the past history of what he's said and done during his BB career. He seems to have changed his ways around quite a bit and much credit to him for that!And yes I have been around enough to know quite a few of them. Not sure exactly why what I said has gotten you all winded up about it that you have to keep coming back with your irrelevant comments...
As to the rest who said that they disagreed with me or that Shawn could care less, that is perfectly fine. The topic was not intended for that. I just wanted to see who or how many names would be mentioned when it comes to not so admirable figures in the BB industry just in comparison to those who are on a "highly thought of and admired" list. And one more thing, when it comes to liking or disliking someone, I don't base it just on a brief instance where one may indeed be in not of their best moods. However, there are those "pros" who still manage to be nice, polite, friendly and so on whether it is with fans, at the expos person to person, on the discussion boards as this one or among their own peers in the sport. At the last Mr. O, Shawn didn't even stand at his own booth for 2 days from 11 too 5. Some others did and somehow they were friendly, polite and open to discussions until it closed down. This is just to relate to what you, HDCOR said previously. We all get tired, hungry, headaches and so forth. But it is an overall presence of a person and whether or not they hold up to their core character. There are many BB's today who are just as established and have a fair right to be confident and that by no means is a bad thing. They've worked for it and fully deserve to act that way! However, there are those who still manage to be humble and proud of their accomlishements without being all cocky. They are not loud, don't talk shit about others, respectful of their relationships, educated and so forth. It is simply some of the "pros" really care about what they say and how they present themselves while others don't give a crap. That's where that arrogant attitude comes in. I've heard many names that people refer to when they think of a "pro" that they consider a role model and have a great respect for. Shawn's name does not come to mind except for the fact of having one of the most aesthetically pleasing and symmetrical physiques in the history of the bodybuilding...
^I hope you didn't get worked up over writing that, hon.
DIV
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ferigno is a deaf prick. at the AC a couple years back this eight year old kid ran up to him and asked him for a pic. ferigno made him pay ten bucks to get a pic with him. maybe he needed a new hearing aid battery. biggest asshole move ever.
second is levrone. met him about four times and every time he is a prick. he commentated on the arnold last year and could barely string a f**king sentence together. now he slimmed down to be an actor.they'll have to type the shit out for the movie since no one understands caveman.
both these deuchebags will be at the AC. make sure you bring ten bucks to get a pic with crippled hulk
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I'm a fullblown asshole, what can I say?
^You've surpassed even my standards, Robert.
Obi-wan has taught you well......
DIV
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Jae is a UFC fighter...ever see his legendary, knockout punches? Breathtaking!
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ahhhhhhhh............"I wasn't at my booth from 11 to 5............?"
What are you talking about?
I dont have to be at my booth.
I was doing Pay Per View, I secured Sponsors for my show.
I am no longer competing, we have athletes at our booth signing pictures meeting fans, I mingle when I can but that is not my job Standing at the booth.
Regardless, you ever think I dont like some of the "Fans" and the way the act or talk to me?
Door swings both ways sweetie, you dont like me, there maybe a reason for my reaction toward you. :-*
Kisses,
S. Ray
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Me finks this slappa be hatin on shawn ray cause he accidently tuck her up the butty
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I think it was the toranto pro years ago
Seems as though lately Titus is being credited with a pro win... never happened...best was 2nd at the san fran
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ahhhhhhhh............"I wasn't at my booth from 11 to 5............?"
What are you talking about?
I dont have to be at my booth.
I was doing Pay Per View, I secured Sponsors for my show.
I am no longer competing, we have athletes at our booth signing pictures meeting fans, I mingle when I can but that is not my job Standing at the booth.
Regardless, you ever think I dont like some of the "Fans" and the way the act or talk to me?
Door swings both ways sweetie, you dont like me, there maybe a reason for my reaction toward you. :-*
Kisses,
S. Ray
You need to be nicer to your fans !!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
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Seems as though lately Titus is being credited with a pro win... never happened...best was 2nd at the san fran
Yep, that's what I thought.. I wanna see the placing of this pro show he won. I never seen it..
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If I placed top 5 in 12 or 13 or however f***ing many Mr. Oympias Shawn Ray placed in,I would be the most arogant prick on the planet. ;D..jk
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Hmm. What pro show did Titus win??
The San Quenton Pro Invetational 2006
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Me finks this slappa be hatin on shawn ray cause he accidently tuck her up the butty
No need to get cheeky with it, nugga.
Don't want an incident.....
DIV
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Seems as though lately Titus is being credited with a pro win... never happened...best was 2nd at the san fran
Really well i have a few websites and a magizine or two that state otherwise
he won the 2000 toranto pro
And just so you know don't ever try to correct somthin i say without doin your research because it makes you and only you look like a complete ass clown.
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Are you hating on the man because he spurned your advances at some point?
I know how you women are. :)
DIV
BINGO.
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Really well i have a few websites and a magizine or two that state otherwise
he won the 2000 toranto pro
And just so you know don't ever try to correct somthin i say without doin your research because it makes you and only you look like a complete ass clown.
Markus Ruhl took 1st, Titus was 5th
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Since we have a thread about the "coolest BB", I thought it would be interesting to hear some of the opinions as to who is the most arrogant pro in the industry...
My pick is Shawn Ray. Sorry man. As much as I love your physique and consider you to be a great business man, you score the lowest among the rest when it comes to meeting with your fans.
Any female pro who spits.
Sorry, what was the question?
YIP
Zack
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Joecelyn Pellitier that was easy
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true he may be Mr.O but he comes off like there's no one that should even be allowed on stage next to him.
No one SHOULD be allowed on stage next time. It's been proven to be an insurmountable challenge. Being the best in your sport affords you some type of ego.
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cutler for sure!
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cutler can't be conceited. he doesn't know what that word means
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cutler can't be conceited. he doesn't know what that word means
Of all pros you choose cutler to make an idiot, now i know i have ripped on him but he's not an idiot and has more money then you will probably ever make. Next time rip on coleman or gustavo when it comes to being an idiot.
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Shawn ya coming to the bodyrock?...so i can throw a turban at ya..
i hear the god squad jebus freaks spontaneously combust when coming in contact with anything muslim related
let me know
thanx
your fiend
J
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Of all pros you choose cutler to make an idiot, now i know i have ripped on him but he's not an idiot and has more money then you will probably ever make. Next time rip on coleman or gustavo when it comes to being an idiot.
shuffling around mailing dvds out isn't what i would consider a genious. He has made a a large amount of money but his wife deserves more credit then him for putting all of it together.
ronnie has an accounting degree from grambling. it is hard to believe i know.
gustavo is in fact retarded. he is an all "natural" retard.
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Based on what's been said here, DIV qualifies for top honors based on his pro wannabe status and more of the same ole same ole uncalled for hostility from atop the soapbox. Quite the preachy mofo. ::)
Schwarzenegger in person's over the top obnoxious, which sounds like the description of Lavrone.
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Wheeler. Watch his Hard Body video (the one with Charles Glass and Rico). shameful.
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In print Mentzer seemed to be a snob and if you did not follow HD, then you were a fool.
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In print Mentzer seemed to be a snob and if you did not follow HD, then you were a fool.
Tell that to Arnie lol
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Exactly
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Hmm. What pro show did Titus win??
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Titus and Kamali. At least Titus won a pro show.
nah, craig was pretty 'down to earth'.
Melvin Anthony gets my vote.. with tom prince and his anti-social "im better/smarter/bigger/whatever than everybody" bullshit coming in a close second.
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kamali...he used to go around telling anyone who would listen "ronnie told me i was next"...ronnie was probably talking about the next in line for an AIDS test or something
bench
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Shawn, are you 5'7 exactly?
If this is such a big deal, why not just wear shoe lifts? You could easily appear 5'9 or 5'10 with a good pair of lifts.
Lmao,wow ;D
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ugh.. didn't realize this thread was from '06.
when this thread was started, I'd just been released into the 'super-max' block after being in ad-seg for about 30 days. apparently if you don't post bond, they keep you in ad-seg for a month if you've been in a standoff with swat. lol. jan/feb '06 brings back memories. lol