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you know its fully possible to book trainings with frank zane, dorian or ronnie coleman. have you?
these are olympians, legend of the sport
thats like being able to book a personal training with wayne gretzky or george foreman!
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The secrets they can teach you about picking things up and putting them down....boggles the mind!
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would pick zane out of the three just for his diet knowledge
coleman trains like a idiot , and if your not roided up , will get injured
yates style to , injury prone training i trained h.i.t for a few years.
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I feel like I'm trying with Dorian, Zane, Big Ron, and Arnold every time I look up my FLEX magazine posters in my bedroom.
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you know its fully possible to book trainings with frank zane, dorian or ronnie coleman. have you?
these are olympians, legend of the sport
thats like being able to book a personal training with wayne gretzky or george foreman!
If a person hired those pro's or any pro....
The pro would tell the client the same ole, same ole training advice from FLEX magazine. And the pro would hate every minute of it. They would secretly be wishing that the hour session would end as soon a possible.
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i dont know folks, i think spending a day with dorian might be a cool experience he seems to be pretty funny, im sure he got a lot of stories to share and his technical knowledge seems to be spot on, im sure there's a few things to learn from that...
maybe his wife will join in.
frank zane on the other hand seems to be quite full of himself guru type of guy these days... talks about how he plays the harmonica, the flute etc not sure i could stand to listen to that, he probably bring out the flute (no homo) during training :-\
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You can't compare BB "fans" to fans of other sports. BB "fans" are narcissts, egoists and attention whores, and for the most part just fans of thier own appereance. They don't give a shit about the "legends of the sport" and to interact with em, you can't compare them to soccer or basketball fans cheering for their favourite team in the stadium every week.
A few years back in Germany a gym owner was proud to book Coleman for an exclusive seminar and training session in his gym, and widely promoted it on the boards and on social media. That's the most successful BB of all time flying in from overseas, and barely a handful of people showed up.
Most "BB fans" are considering themselves as way more important for this world than a Coleman, Yates or Zane could ever be lol
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The title is have you ever trained with a pro bodybuilder. Are you talking about Mr. O's or someone who is a pro.
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The title is have you ever trained with a pro bodybuilder. Are you talking about Mr. O's or someone who is a pro.
any pro but i guess it would be a better story if there was someone somewhat known
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any pro but i guess it would be a better story if there was someone somewhat known
I trained with Marc Lobliner, and it wasn't by choice either.
I joined a smaller Metroflex gym in Tyler, TX and there was some sorta meet and greet going on.
Not that many people showed. :D
Guy who looks like he is having an aneurism in the thumbnail is the owner of said gym.
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The secrets they can teach you about picking things up and putting them down....boggles the mind!
Haha my thoughts exactly.
Now have you ever injected with a pro-bodybuilder...that would be a more fruitful exercise.
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In the past I have trained with Mike Quinn, Chris Duffy, most recently Vladimir Senatus who was a pro but never got to compete on a pro stage. Also trained with plenty of top amateur bodybuilders from Florida. Have also trained with Lex Lugar and Lyle Alzado . Also trained with a bunch of other wrestlers Corporal Kirchner, Tatanka (Chris Chavis) and a other guys that were jobbers.
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Yup,trained with craig titus and tom prince.
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TOMMY WISHBONE HAS THIS ONE ON LOCKDOWN SEEN IT ALL...
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TOMMY WISHBONE HAS THIS ONE ON LOCKDOWN SEEN IT ALL...
For sure, Tommy needs to add to this thread.
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would pick zane out of the three just for his diet knowledge
coleman trains like a idiot , and if your not roided up , will get injured
yates style to , injury prone training i trained h.i.t for a few years.
Zane or Pearl... both seen it done it.
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When I got really serious about lifting a couple years ago, I thought about ordering a routine from someone like Robbie or Mike O'Hearn
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The pro would tell the client the same ole, same ole training advice from FLEX magazine. And the pro would hate every minute of it.
Not necessarily.
The ones I have trained with :
Paul Baker (the most times) funniest dude ever. His story of him and Priest having to share a Smartcar in Europe will make you cry.
Vince Taylor (15-20 times)
Toney Freeman (about a dozen times)
Darrem Charles (once)
Bill Willmore (once, could have more times but the man's B.O. was ungodly awful)
Shabazz - too many times to count. bat eared midget who is a perfect example of the karma bus coming around the corner at 90mph
Jonathan Rowe - great dude. Lots of times, usually with Shabazz. Could have been a damn amazing 212 guy, but loved motorcycles too much, by loving I mean "wrecking". Between the accidents and his friendship with the seedy ass Rashid, I am surprised the guy could even afford food to go in his mouth.
Curly Top - couple of times joined us (w/ Rashid and Rowe )
Haney - a few times. But his workouts were not very much to talk about. (he was long since retired) Best part was just listening him drop a few hints and common sense.
Coleman - twice. (on a Fri and Sat) With Rashid and Jonathan at Ropeman's fitness in Atlanta. Very open about anything you wanted to know.
Kenny Jones - couple of times. (hey, he is a pro)
Have to admit the ones that I have learned the most from were Haney and Taylor. The others were nothing like you see/read in the magazines.
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Trained at Golds Venice, Golds Placentia and Block's gym in OC in late 80s/early 90s. While I wasn't working in with them, saw them all train pretty much. Was very inspired seeing Rich Gaspari in his prime and in shape doing dumbell curls in a tshirt. Effing shredded and dense guns.
I think this is pretty much the best you can hope for, seeing a Pro and being inspired by it. But you aren't going to gain any knowledge past the knowledge that certain things are possible for some and to train intensely.
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Not necessarily.
The ones I have trained with :
Paul Baker (the most times) funniest dude ever. His story of him and Priest having to share a Smartcar in Europe will make you cry.
Vince Taylor (15-20 times)
Toney Freeman (about a dozen times)
Darrem Charles (once)
Bill Willmore (once, could have more times but the man's B.O. was ungodly awful)
Shabazz - too many times to count. bat eared midget who is a perfect example of the karma bus coming around the corner at 90mph
Jonathan Rowe - great dude. Lots of times, usually with Shabazz. Could have been a damn amazing 212 guy, but loved motorcycles too much, by loving I mean "wrecking". Between the accidents and his friendship with the seedy ass Rashid, I am surprised the guy could even afford food to go in his mouth.
Curly Top - couple of times joined us (w/ Rashid and Rowe )
Haney - a few times. But his workouts were not very much to talk about. (he was long since retired) Best part was just listening him drop a few hints and common sense.
Coleman - twice. (on a Fri and Sat) With Rashid and Jonathan at Ropeman's fitness in Atlanta. Very open about anything you wanted to know.
Kenny Jones - couple of times. (hey, he is a pro)
Have to admit the ones that I have learned the most from were Haney and Taylor. The others were nothing like you see/read in the magazines.
GOOD STUFF MAN...
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Not necessarily.
The ones I have trained with :
Paul Baker (the most times) funniest dude ever. His story of him and Priest having to share a Smartcar in Europe will make you cry.
Vince Taylor (15-20 times)
Toney Freeman (about a dozen times)
Darrem Charles (once)
Bill Willmore (once, could have more times but the man's B.O. was ungodly awful)
Shabazz - too many times to count. bat eared midget who is a perfect example of the karma bus coming around the corner at 90mph
Jonathan Rowe - great dude. Lots of times, usually with Shabazz. Could have been a damn amazing 212 guy, but loved motorcycles too much, by loving I mean "wrecking". Between the accidents and his friendship with the seedy ass Rashid, I am surprised the guy could even afford food to go in his mouth.
Curly Top - couple of times joined us (w/ Rashid and Rowe )
Haney - a few times. But his workouts were not very much to talk about. (he was long since retired) Best part was just listening him drop a few hints and common sense.
Coleman - twice. (on a Fri and Sat) With Rashid and Jonathan at Ropeman's fitness in Atlanta. Very open about anything you wanted to know.
Kenny Jones - couple of times. (hey, he is a pro)
Have to admit the ones that I have learned the most from were Haney and Taylor. The others were nothing like you see/read in the magazines.
Are you in south FL? I remember always seeing Paul Baker and Kenny Jones at the World Gym in Fort Lauderdale. I also know that Bill Wilmore is around the Palm Beach area I believe as well as Darrem Charles in Boca
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Trained once with a pro strongman (Jimmy Marku) shortly before he got busted for dealing. Also trained with boxer Danny Williams but never a pro BB.
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Not necessarily.
The ones I have trained with :
Paul Baker (the most times) funniest dude ever. His story of him and Priest having to share a Smartcar in Europe will make you cry.
Vince Taylor (15-20 times)
Toney Freeman (about a dozen times)
Darrem Charles (once)
Bill Willmore (once, could have more times but the man's B.O. was ungodly awful)
Shabazz - too many times to count. bat eared midget who is a perfect example of the karma bus coming around the corner at 90mph
Jonathan Rowe - great dude. Lots of times, usually with Shabazz. Could have been a damn amazing 212 guy, but loved motorcycles too much, by loving I mean "wrecking". Between the accidents and his friendship with the seedy ass Rashid, I am surprised the guy could even afford food to go in his mouth.
Curly Top - couple of times joined us (w/ Rashid and Rowe )
Haney - a few times. But his workouts were not very much to talk about. (he was long since retired) Best part was just listening him drop a few hints and common sense.
Coleman - twice. (on a Fri and Sat) With Rashid and Jonathan at Ropeman's fitness in Atlanta. Very open about anything you wanted to know.
Kenny Jones - couple of times. (hey, he is a pro)
With so much experience with so many pros, what was so fascinating about Haney and Taylor's insider secrets? ???
Have to admit the ones that I have learned the most from were Haney and Taylor. The others were nothing like you see/read in the magazines.
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The secrets they can teach you about picking things up and putting them down....boggles the mind!
You have great avatars, what's the chicks name you used to have, with the thong on leaning against the tree?
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I'd love to hear from someone who (if there is such a person) who squatted rep for rep w/ Platz back in the early 80's.
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you know its fully possible to book trainings with frank zane, dorian or ronnie coleman. have you?
these are olympians, legend of the sport
thats like being able to book a personal training with wayne gretzky or george foreman!
A fool and his money are soon parted. Bah!
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Does the Mirage vending machine count?... If so then yes ;D
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Shabazz - too many times to count. bat eared midget who is a perfect example of the karma bus coming around the corner at 90mph
Jonathan Rowe - great dude. Lots of times, usually with Shabazz. Could have been a damn amazing 212 guy, but loved motorcycles too much, by loving I mean "wrecking".
Between the accidents and his friendship with the seedy ass Rashid, I am surprised the guy could even afford food to go in his mouth.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson249d.jpg)
Did Shabazz Rashid steal his friends money?
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson249d.jpg)
Did Shabazz Rashid steal his friends money?
dude had good build,,like remenber who?same with lionel train brown.
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Are you in south FL? I remember always seeing Paul Baker and Kenny Jones at the World Gym in Fort Lauderdale. I also know that Bill Wilmore is around the Palm Beach area I believe as well as Darrem Charles in Boca
Paul is now at LA Fitness. Used to train with him at Golds until they brought in all the stupid Hoist equipment or whatever brand it is that the seat and machine moves with you when you use it. We went to Worlds and then it went in the gutter over a year ago. At LA Fitness now.
*Note : Golds in Ft Lauderdale is now ZOO Gym
Was with Bill down in Hollywood once at Golds. No idea where he is or lives now. Taylor at Golds and then LA Fitness. He lives about 20 mins away in Pembroke Pines (as of last year)
Darrem at the Golds in Ft Lauderdale. Though he lives north of here.
Kenny Jones used to be in Ft Lauderdale. He just up and disappeared a few years ago. Dude was a jack of all trades apparently. He ran ads in magazines and newspapers for - and not limited to -
muscle worship and posing sessions
personal training and diet
The first two were a pretty much given as anyone can guess. The rest of his "expertise" was :
Installing tile and general handyman work
Teaching sunrise yoga on the beach (he actually got a big crowd of about 20-30 people for this before he fucked it up. They would gather at the beach on A1A and Sunrise before dawn)
Cooking classes
Carpet cleaning / rug beating
Vehicle detailing
motorcycle for beginners
guitar lessons
bartender
life coach
moving services
body guard
Training wise, he was more into the metaphysical and La-La stuff than Kai could ever dream of. Dude used more gear than anyone I have ever known despite his small stature and size. Now I don't mean he used more than everyone out there, but out of the ones whose gear use I can verify 100%, he was way above them. Paul weighs 300lbs with abs and he never used 1/3 of what Kenny used.
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Paul is now at LA Fitness. Used to train with him at Golds until they brought in all the stupid Hoist equipment or whatever brand it is that the seat and machine moves with you when you use it. We went to Worlds and then it went in the gutter over a year ago. At LA Fitness now.
*Note : Golds in Ft Lauderdale is now ZOO Gym
Was with Bill down in Hollywood once at Golds. No idea where he is or lives now. Taylor at Golds and then LA Fitness. He lives about 20 mins away in Pembroke Pines (as of last year)
Darrem at the Golds in Ft Lauderdale. Though he lives north of here.
Kenny Jones used to be in Ft Lauderdale. He just up and disappeared a few years ago. Dude was a jack of all trades apparently. He ran ads in magazines and newspapers for - and not limited to -
muscle worship and posing sessions
personal training and diet
The first two were a pretty much given as anyone can guess. The rest of his "expertise" was :
Installing tile and general handyman work
Teaching sunrise yoga on the beach (he actually got a big crowd of about 20-30 people for this before he fucked it up. They would gather at the beach on A1A and Sunrise before dawn)
Cooking classes
Carpet cleaning / rug beating
Vehicle detailing
motorcycle for beginners
guitar lessons
bartender
life coach
moving services
body guard
Training wise, he was more into the metaphysical and La-La stuff than Kai could ever dream of. Dude used more gear than anyone I have ever known despite his small stature and size. Now I don't mean he used more than everyone out there, but out of the ones whose gear use I can verify 100%, he was way above them. Paul weighs 300lbs with abs and he never used 1/3 of what Kenny used.
Haha yeah I trained at that World back in the early 2000s. It was a great gym before it got really fruity. Speaking of fruity, Kenny always gave me that vibe although I never met the guy. I just remember him being eccentric. My buddy said he once yelled at the girl working the front desk telling her to turn the ceiling fans down because he didn't want to tear his biceps. Paul Baker was huge and used to hang by the front eating Burger King. Nice guy
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I trained with Branch Warren about 8 years ago. He was training back and i knew the guy working out with him, so they let me train with them. He was really cool and laid back, not as uptight as i thought based on his videos. The training was very different than his videos, everything was slow and controlled. He only went up to like 255 on BB rows. Not what i expected based on what i had seen in videos, but he was very strong and trained with an intense focus. None of the screaming or slamming weights. Branch was huge on weighted chins, he was very persistant that we do chins in place of pulldowns. He did like 8 sets of chins.
I've trained with several professional power lifters and olympic lifters over the years. I could tell a lot of crazy stories about training with power lifters, those guys are nuts.
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With so much experience with so many pros, what was so fascinating about Haney and Taylor's insider secrets?
Their "secrets" were that there were no secrets. Just common sense really. I asked Taylor once about his reputation for being a lazy trainer (and trust me, if you ever saw him training you would think he was lazy or just doing three hours of warm ups) and he said he trained that way because that is all he had to do. Why do more? Haney had pretty much the same outlook. He trained harder than Taylor but when I asked him about the Mentzer or Yates way of training with high intensity, he simply asked me "why?" He said he could train that way and stimulate the muscle with the forced reps and negatives but the risk of injury was a lot higher with this method or he could simply do a few more sets up to failure and keep it a lot safer than trying to go beyond failure every time and risk getting hurt.
Both of them pretty much agreed that the getting big wasn't hard, it was just that most trainees over complicated things by doing too much in the gym and not enough in the diet. They were too busy looking for a magic exercise or secret stack that would make all the difference.
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what was it like training with toney freeman?
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson249d.jpg)
Did Shabazz Rashid steal his friends money?
Naw, that was Curly Top who was the thief and overall general scumbag.
Dude ripped people off left and right and that is why he got busted picking up a package of roids at the Atlanta airport because someone got ripped off and put a bug in the ear of LE.
dude had good build,,like remenber who?same with lionel train brown.
Bow legged and calves like mosquito bites.
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what was it like training with toney freeman?
Good. He is very laid back and easy to get along with. Trains hard too. Mostly a 70/30 in favor of machines. He is one of these people that believe any exercise will work the muscle if you do it correctly. He is one of the few who can say they never do the same workout twice and actually mean it.
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thanks, toney is interesting because of his age and his height, so that got me curious
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Does Ronnie Coleman offer a class? ???
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would love to train with Sev and Radu.
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I trained at least once with every single winning IFBB Pro in the 1990's. Maybe only calves. Maybe only post-Olympia but all of them.
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you know its fully possible to book trainings with frank zane, dorian or ronnie coleman. have you?
these are olympians, legend of the sport
thats like being able to book a personal training with wayne gretzky or george foreman!
>:( hey where is Basile name >:(
we all dream to hypertrophy with him in Rozy gym :D
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would love to train with Sev and Radu.
would U "love" to train with Basile on his 'machinery' :D
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I've trained with several professional power lifters and olympic lifters over the years. I could tell a lot of crazy stories about training with power lifters, those guys are nuts.
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Let's hear them ! 8)
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I trained at least once with every single winning IFBB Pro in the 1990's. Maybe only calves. Maybe only post-Olympia but all of them.
Any good stories ?
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I trained at least once with every single winning IFBB Pro in the 1990's. Maybe only calves. Maybe only post-Olympia but all of them.
Wow!!
Bev Francis when she was powerlifting, John Hnatyschak and Jeff King is all I can remember. Benched with Ted Arcidi but he does't count in this thread.
Jeff could have won today with no GH or slin.
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Wow!!
Bev Francis when she was powerlifting, John Hnatyschak and Jeff King is all I can remember. Benched with Ted Arcidi but he does't could in this thread.
Jeff could have won today with no GH or slin.
One of my favorite bodybuilders of all time ( top 3 ) ... and you trained with him ? Jealous ! :(
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Yes
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I assisted Bob chick with some stretches one time. It wasn't gay because I didn't want it to be.
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I assisted Bob chick with some stretches one time. It wasn't gay because I didn't want it to be.
I swear I was thinking of those stretches 5ish mins ago.
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One of my favorite bodybuilders of all time ( top 3 ) ... and you trained with him ? Jealous ! :(
I assume your talking about Jeff and he was and is a great guy! His knowledge of diet etc was ahead of his time and he trained like an animal with basic compound movements.
You remember this thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=553172.25
This is a great read!
http://www.musclechemistry.com/upload/anabolic-discussion-forum/60651-jeff-king-training-diet-mr-america-mr-universe-1984-a.html
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My mate trained with Chris Cormier on one of his UK visits. Sent me a text telling me to get to the gym ASAP to train with them. I threw my phone back on the sofa and went back to painting the kitchen ceiling.
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Lurker and Rambone, either of you guys remember US Nutrition? It was in the strip center 1 block west of Golds in Ft. Laud on the same side of the street. I used to train there and get all my supplements etc there back in 98-2000. Had a small personal training gym in the back. Claude Groulx, Mike Ashley, Vladimir Senatus, and everyone who trained in Golds used to come in there.
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Almost 4 years we have trained together.
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With Berry Demey, long time ago..................
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Training with a professional bodybuilder can be as advantageous as taking lessons from any other professional in any other discipline. Having trained with Craig Richardson for 17 continuous years, I would say that I have not only seen, but learned so much that no magazine would dare print and few other pro bodybuilders would ever admit to. I don't think you need a professional bodybuilder training with you in order to obtain an excellent physique. My piano teacher is not a "professional" but he sure is talented and an excellent teacher. I would think that the combination of knowledge and the willingness and ability to translate that to a student would matter most. I've trained with other excellent bodybuilders and some were just egocentric jerks who couldn't care less if you learned something from them.
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Training with a professional bodybuilder can be as advantageous as taking lessons from any other professional in any other discipline. Having trained with Craig Richardson for 17 continuous years, I would say that I have not only seen, but learned so much that no magazine would dare print and few other pro bodybuilders would ever admit to. I don't think you need a professional bodybuilder training with you in order to obtain an excellent physique. My piano teacher is not a "professional" but he sure is talented and an excellent teacher. I would think that the combination of knowledge and the willingness and ability to translate that to a student would matter most. I've trained with other excellent bodybuilders and some were just egocentric jerks who couldn't care less if you learned something from them.
well put.....again your input here is always welcome..