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Post by: bigkubby on June 29, 2015, 11:06:21 AM
Other than his back and chest , his legs arms are on the smallish side. I just don't understand how he took it from Arnold. Discuss
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Post by: affeman on June 29, 2015, 11:14:04 AM
totally agree. +probably the ugliest abs ever on a BB stage :-X
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Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
totally agree. +probably the ugliest abs ever on a BB stage :-X
WORSE than coleman?
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Post by: bigkubby on June 29, 2015, 11:20:45 AM
Coleman's are by far worse, but with arms like Haneys just can't understand how he was gifted 8 times
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Post by: thegamechanger on June 29, 2015, 11:21:45 AM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2013/haneyheader.jpg)
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Post by: Royalty on June 29, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
Other than his back and chest , his legs arms are on the smallish side. I just don't understand how he took it from Arnold. Discuss

 ::) Great thread Joon ::)
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
Horrible trolling.  Fuck off.
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Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2015, 11:36:12 AM
Poor trolling job

(http://www.fitnessappliance.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Lee-Haney.jpg)
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 11:39:43 AM
Horrible arms

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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 11:41:21 AM
What big, dumb Kubby doesn't understand is that the guys today and even in the 90s put all kinds of shit in their arms and shoulders.
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Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 11:44:24 AM
WORSE than coleman?
This steve ..haney could suck his abs in like a vacuum but Ronnie ?
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Post by: Royalty on June 29, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
Tiny waist

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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 11:47:47 AM
Ugliest abs in bodybuilding... ::) ::) ::)

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Post by: Royalty on June 29, 2015, 11:48:29 AM
Huge Quads
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Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 11:51:46 AM
Huge Quads

FROM 91 HE WENT ALL OUT IN STYLE,,RIPPED/DRY,FREAKIEST LEG SEPERATION HE EVER HAD...
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 29, 2015, 12:34:35 PM
Ugliest abs in bodybuilding... ::) ::) ::)



Nope.....Boyer Coe
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 12:35:32 PM
Nope.....Boyer Coe

That was sarcasm.
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Post by: Dr Dutch on June 29, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
Haney was the best in his time......best back there ever was till then.
Well maybe Samir, but that was just once, 1983.
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Post by: kepler2008 on June 29, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
Over rated  ::)

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Post by: bigkubby on June 29, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
What I'm trying to say was his chest and back out proportioned his legs and arms
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
What I'm trying to say was his chest and back out proportioned his legs and arms

That's because you're from the era of blown out arms, legs and assholes.
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Post by: bigkubby on June 29, 2015, 01:16:44 PM
His arms were what 19" shit rich gas pair had better arms
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
His arms were what 19" shit rich gas pair had better arms

They could have been an inch or two bigger yes.
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Post by: The Ugly on June 29, 2015, 01:25:58 PM
Ugliest abs in bodybuilding... ::) ::) ::)



Perfection.
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Post by: BlackMetallic on June 29, 2015, 02:00:47 PM
Go on youtube and watch his vids from when he was in his prime

Haney looks far better in his vids than he does in pix. Pics didnt do him justice

The fact that he was ugly and had zero youth in his appearance didnt help
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Post by: goku on June 29, 2015, 02:25:59 PM
he had a well balanced physique, i don't think his arms were small enough to cause an obvious imbalance but weren't big enough to put him up there with the elite - Sergio Oliva, Arnie, Dorian etc

i don't think anyone rates him in that class, if they do then i'd agree it would be overrating him slightly. but he's definitely one of the great physiques, just not among the very greatest, imo at least

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=352655.0;attach=387869;image)

Sergio greatest physique ever for me though

(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2012/09/vlcsnap00003a-1.jpg)
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Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 02:28:01 PM
he had a well balanced physique, i don't think his arms were small enough to cause an obvious imbalance but weren't big enough to put him up there with the elite - Sergio Oliva, Arnie, Dorian etc

i don't think anyone rates him in that class, if they do then i'd agree it would be overrating him slightly. but he's definitely one of the great physiques, just not among the very greatest, imo at least

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=352655.0;attach=387869;image)

Sergio greatest physique ever for me though

(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2012/09/vlcsnap00003a-1.jpg)
91 LOOKED LIKE SLABS OF BEEF FROM ALL OVER,ITS LIKE THE DRUG TESTED YR RUST WORE OFF AND HE WAS REBORN BUILD WISE ONE LAST TIME..
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Post by: SGT BARNES on June 29, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
Haney overrated?

you arent rated at anything anywhere ever. think on that before posting.
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Post by: Tennisballz on June 29, 2015, 02:37:02 PM
Haney was most certainly not overrated.  He is probably the best olympia winner that doesn't get talked about much. He had a good combo of size and symmetry.  I guess I have to ask who you think was better?  If he was around in the mid 90s I would agree that he wouldn't have done nearly as well because of how good the competition was.
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Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 02:42:10 PM
Haney was most certainly not overrated.  He is probably the best olympia winner that doesn't get talked about much. He had a good combo of size and symmetry.  I guess I have to ask who you think was better?  If he was around in the mid 90s I would agree that he wouldn't have done nearly as well because of how good the competition was.
I think 91 after yates really closed in and knowing that he would do anything at that point on ,haney said enough is enough,i think haney's look in 91 what I stated was his best overall look,he looked freaky at that show,and probably went in more than usual'speculating'here on drugs/#'s..i think a haney/yates part 2 would have been close but yates in 92 was totally different than 91 and by 93 forget about it...
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Post by: tommywishbone on June 29, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
Haney isn't overrated. He's all time Top-5 on anyone's ballot.
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Post by: bigkubby on June 29, 2015, 03:52:49 PM
If he added another inch to his arms and a couple more to his quads his physique would be perfect . Not bashing or discrediting just saying that would make the flow perfect. That is all children.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 04:00:32 PM
If he added another inch to his arms and a couple more to his quads his physique would be perfect . Not bashing or discrediting just saying that would make the flow perfect. That is all children.

I'll give you that.  But unlike other Mr. O's if Haney needed to do that, he could have.  Phil can't make his shoulder girdle wider. Ronnie can't get better looking abs and better looking calves. In side poses there's nothing wrong with his arms, forearms included.  Haney was before esiciline and other SEO but he didn't need it.  Haney looks like a jacked athlete.  He doesn't have that modern bodybuilder look to him.  That's not to say he doesn't look powerful or large.  He just looks more authentic, (take that for what it's worth).
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Post by: tommywishbone on June 29, 2015, 04:10:24 PM
I'll give you that.  But unlike other Mr. O's if Haney needed to do that, he could have.  Phil can't make his shoulder girdle wider. Ronnie can't get better looking abs and better looking calves. In side poses there's nothing wrong with his arms, forearms included.  Haney was before esiciline and other SEO but he didn't need it.  Haney looks like a jacked athlete.  He doesn't have that modern bodybuilder look to him.  That's not to say he doesn't look powerful or large.  He just looks more authentic, (take that for what it's worth).

Wiggs, you hit on something regarding Haney that is totally true and completely unheard of these days.  Haney was an athlete and he moved like an athlete. 

I remember picking him up one late night at LAX. He was flying in for the Weider/Pro Muscle Bodybuilding Camp.  I was waiting at the gate for him to exit the airplane. He just sort of strolled off, wearing a long sleeve button down shirt and jeans.  Didn't really appear to be crazy huge.  Had a nice relaxed way about him.  We're walking and talking and of course I'm looking at him (no homo, well perhaps a little) and I knew he was 245-250 but it was amazing how easily he moved- like a real athlete. 
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 04:29:18 PM
Wiggs, you hit on something regarding Haney that is totally true and completely unheard of these days.  Haney was an athlete and he moved like an athlete. 

I remember picking him up one late night at LAX. He was flying in for the Weider/Pro Muscle Bodybuilding Camp.  I was waiting at the gate for him to exit the airplane. He just sort of strolled off, wearing a long sleeve button down shirt and jeans.  Didn't really appear to be crazy huge.  Had a nice relaxed way about him.  We're walking and talking and of course I'm looking at him (no homo, well perhaps a little) and I knew he was 245-250 but it was amazing how easily he moved- like a real athlete. 

Yes Tom, I agree.  He was functional.  The guys today outside of maybe Kai and a few others aren't function.  They waddle around with these ridiculous looking thighs, this capped shoulder things looks fake and stupid, you know all the rest, it's a mess.  I know you like Dorian but he's the one that took it here but if it wasn't him someone else would have.  It's the judges, the people in charge of judges, and of course Weiders for not getting a grasp on it.  But I guess you gotta let nature take its course and let everything hit rock bottom before cooler heads prevail. 
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 04:34:21 PM
It's no secret that I believe Lee Haney is the greatest bodybuilder overall ever. It includes more than most think.  He was large, PROPORTIONED, symmetrical, conditioned, separated, and BALANCED.  He could pose, he had a heart of a champion, he wore his Olympia crown with grace and respect and carried himself with class at ALL times.  The only complaints I hear consistently is small arms and legs. People have to understand that the only person known for having legs that would be acceptable today is Tom Platz and he was considered a freak because of his legs.  After that I'd have to say Dorian.  Haney didn't need to have 23 inch arms or 30 inch quads because bodybuilding was about proportions and balance then.  It is not now.  This is clear from Phil to Down Hill, It's a mess but it sells so that's the way it is. Haney won 8 Mr. Os for a reason. But Haney was the last Mr. O pre-drug monsters. He's been getting alot of love here on Getbig in the last couple years because of some of us but prior to that it was crickets.   People were enamored with Coleman's physique.  Haney stood the test of time and went out looking his best unlike everyone else except Arnold. Other guys outside of Arnold fell apart for various reasons.
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Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 29, 2015, 04:38:15 PM
It's no secret that I believe Lee Haney is the greatest bodybuilder overall ever. It includes more than most think.  He was large, PROPORTIONED, symmetrical, conditioned, separated, and BALANCED.  He could pose, he had a heart of a champion, he wore his Olympia crown with grace and respect and carried himself with class at ALL times.  The only complaints I hear consistently is small arms and legs. People have to understand that the only person known for having legs that would be acceptable today is Tom Platz and he was considered a freak because of his legs.  After that I'd have to say Dorian.  Haney didn't need to have 23 inch arms or 30 inch quads because bodybuilding was about proportions and balance then.  It is not now.  This is clear from Phil to Down Hill, It's a mess but it sells so that's the way it is. Haney won 8 Mr. Os for a reason. But Haney was the last Mr. O pre-drug monsters. He's been getting alot of love here on Getbig in the last couple years because of some of us but prior to that it was crickets.   People were enamored with Coleman's physique.  Haney stood the test of time and went out looking his best unlike everyone else except Arnold. Other guys outside of Arnold fell apart for various reasons.


Bigger & greater than Jeeezzuss  :o
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Post by: The_Punisher on June 29, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
not another Haney Thread
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Post by: oldtimer1 on June 29, 2015, 04:50:47 PM
Haney is one of the best bodybuilders of all time. Small waist and proportional size is just is a killer combination. Sure he had some flaws but all the greats do. There was a picture when Sergio tried to make a comeback and posed his arm next to Haney dwarfing his arm. I wish I had the picture. Then again Sergio's complaint is that he had the best potential but seldom dialed it in. There was a short time where he was just sick in shape. Back to Haney. Top 5 best bodybuilder of all time.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 05:10:09 PM
not another Haney Thread

Why not?  He's the one guy that Getbig can't tear apart sans arms and legs and if you're an idiot like The Scott, get angry at him for using steroids and then not telling the public. Perhaps that's why not another Haney Thread because you can't really say negative shit a Getbigger would say about Haney. He's too good, too "vanilla".
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 29, 2015, 05:21:28 PM
Haney is one of the best bodybuilders of all time. Small waist and proportional size is just is a killer combination. Sure he had some flaws but all the greats do. There was a picture when Sergio tried to make a comeback and posed his arm next to Haney dwarfing his arm. I wish I had the picture. Then again Sergio's complaint is that he had the best potential but seldom dialed it in. There was a short time where he was just sick in shape. Back to Haney. Top 5 best bodybuilder of all time.

Photos don't do justice to Haney's mass and thickness. You had to stand next to him to really realize how thick he truly was. His arms were his weak point, but some of that is due to how his delts, back, and chest made them look smaller than they were.

Haney is underrated, not overrated.
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Post by: Hulkotron on June 29, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
That's because you're from the era of blown out arms, legs and assholes.

 :D

Lee was a great Christian bodybuilder.
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Post by: The Scott on June 29, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
Why not?  He's the one guy that Getbig can't tear apart sans arms and legs and if you're an idiot like The Scott, get angry at him for using steroids and then not telling the public. Perhaps that's why not another Haney Thread because you can't really say negative shit a Getbigger would say about Haney. He's too good, too "vanilla".

Oh lawdy, lawdy, lawdy!  Hep me!  Hep me! Hep me!   Professor Wiggins done took me to school!  Hep me, lawd!

Not.

Haney lied his ass off on video about his drug use, deal with Slurpee Boy.  As for his physique, I suppose top 5 is not out of the question.  He's far better than Yates or Coleman, that's for certain.  No one compares to the Oak for being the best (druggie) of all time.

But you can't see past the color of your skin.  Silly little manlet.
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Post by: Hulkotron on June 29, 2015, 05:48:26 PM
Oh lawdy, lawdy, lawdy!  Hep me!  Hep me! Hep me!   Professor Wiggins done took me to school!  Hep me, lawd!

Not.

Haney lied his ass off on video about his drug use, deal with Slurpee Boy.  As for his physique, I suppose top 5 is not out of the question.  He's far better than Yates or Coleman, that's for certain.  No one compares to the Oak for being the best (druggie) of all time.

But you can't see past the color of your skin.  Silly little manlet.

I am a strong white man and I agree with Wiggs.
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Post by: The Scott on June 29, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
I am a strong white man and I agree with Wiggs.

That's fine.  Your choice.  On some subjects I do, on others I don't.  He's also a bit of a 'tard as evidenced by the drivel he so often posits here.
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Post by: Mr.1derful on June 29, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
Haney, if anything, is underrated, despite being an 8 time Mr. O winner.  His greatness doesn't always come through in photos, not unlike Dorian.  But watch a video of Haney in his prime and you immediately see why he dominated. 
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Post by: HTexan on June 29, 2015, 06:13:52 PM
Other than his back and chest , his legs arms are on the smallish side. I just don't understand how he took it from Arnold. Discuss
You're a retard, go suck a dick. Discuss
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 29, 2015, 06:27:15 PM
Haney, if anything, is underrated, despite being an 8 time Mr. O winner.  His greatness doesn't always come through in photos, not unlike Dorian.  But watch a video of Haney in his prime and you immediately see why he dominated. 

The guys Haney beat (Makawway, Gaspari, Beckles, Labrada, Bannout, Ray, Christian, DeMey, etc.) were all good bodybuilders but nowhere near Haney. Other than the drug tested O in 1990, Haney crushed his competition.
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Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2015, 07:16:21 PM
The guys Haney beat (Makawway, Gaspari, Beckles, Labrada, Bannout, Ray, Christian, DeMey, etc.) were all good bodybuilders but nowhere near Haney. Other than the drug tested O in 1990, Haney crushed his competition.

And he won 8 times to beat the record then stopped. That's a long long time.
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Post by: nicorulez on June 29, 2015, 07:18:13 PM
he had a well balanced physique, i don't think his arms were small enough to cause an obvious imbalance but weren't big enough to put him up there with the elite - Sergio Oliva, Arnie, Dorian etc

i don't think anyone rates him in that class, if they do then i'd agree it would be overrating him slightly. but he's definitely one of the great physiques, just not among the very greatest, imo at least

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=352655.0;attach=387869;image)

Sergio greatest physique ever for me though

(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2012/09/vlcsnap00003a-1.jpg)

Yo dipshit, Haney beat Yates. He would have beat him in 1992, 1994, and 1997. Yates was fantastic in 1993 and took it to another level. However, who knows what would have happened if Haney hit the GH and insulin train. He is among the top three ever. Yates looked like hammered shit in 1994, 1996, and his final year. Ronnie was deteriorating rapidly by 2006 / 2007. Haney carried one of the most complete, dry, and detailed packages ever in 1991. I was in Orlando for the night show and he smashed Dorian.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 29, 2015, 07:23:29 PM
Yo dipshit, Haney beat Yates. He would have beat him in 1992, 1994, and 1997. Yates was fantastic in 1993 and took it to another level. However, who knows what would have happened if Haney hit the GH and insulin train. He is among the top three ever. Yates looked like hammered shit in 1994, 1996, and his final year. Ronnie was deteriorating rapidly by 2006 / 2007. Haney carried one of the most complete, dry, and detailed packages ever in 1991. I was in Orlando for the night show and he smashed Dorian.

What was it like in person in 91?
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Post by: Hulkotron on June 29, 2015, 07:31:46 PM
What was it like in person in 91?

I suspect he got a boner if you know what I mean.
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 29, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
And he won 8 times to beat the record then stopped. That's a long long time.

Mike Christian may have beat Haney at the drug tested O. It was very hard to believe Christian was "clean" for that show though.
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Post by: Core on June 29, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Yo dipshit, Haney beat Yates. He would have beat him in 1992, 1994, and 1997. Yates was fantastic in 1993 and took it to another level. However, who knows what would have happened if Haney hit the GH and insulin train. He is among the top three ever. Yates looked like hammered shit in 1994, 1996, and his final year. Ronnie was deteriorating rapidly by 2006 / 2007. Haney carried one of the most complete, dry, and detailed packages ever in 1991. I was in Orlando for the night show and he smashed Dorian.

I highly doubt haney did not use gh.
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 29, 2015, 07:56:33 PM
I highly doubt haney did not use gh.

As natural as Dana Linn Bailey...
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 29, 2015, 07:58:54 PM
I highly doubt haney did not use gh.

I tend to agree with this , because Bob Paris talks about using it and when Dorian made the transformation from 1992-1993 he was asked if that was the first time he ever taking GH and that was the reason he got so massive , he said NO , he was taking before then. So high probability he was on it as well.
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Post by: Rudee on June 29, 2015, 08:59:44 PM
I tend to agree with this , because Bob Paris talks about using it and when Dorian made the transformation from 1992-1993 he was asked if that was the first time he ever taking GH and that was the reason he got so massive , he said NO , he was taking before then. So high probability he was on it as well.

Where did Bob Paris talk about using GH?
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Post by: bigkubby on June 29, 2015, 10:10:31 PM
Where did Bob Paris talk about using GH?
????
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Post by: hardgainerj on June 29, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
Where did Bob Paris talk about using GH?
he only took gh in the ass
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Post by: beakdoctor on June 29, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
Mike Christian may have beat Haney at the drug tested O. It was very hard to believe Christian was "clean" for that show though.

Haha none of them were clean... It was a matter of could they be off long enough to pass a test and still look good. Most of them, Haney included looked poor compared to previous years. Christian was able to hold his look much better. But none of them were clean.

Haney looked great at his last O.... He made huge improvements to his arms and legs. He easily beaat Doz that year. You can see tha. Was the year that gh made its impact known in the sport and it hasnt been the same since... Haney was the last Mr O to have a tight waist and not look pregnant.
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Post by: goku on June 30, 2015, 04:19:04 AM
Yo dipshit, Haney beat Yates. He would have beat him in 1992, 1994, and 1997. Yates was fantastic in 1993 and took it to another level. However, who knows what would have happened if Haney hit the GH and insulin train. He is among the top three ever. Yates looked like hammered shit in 1994, 1996, and his final year. Ronnie was deteriorating rapidly by 2006 / 2007. Haney carried one of the most complete, dry, and detailed packages ever in 1991. I was in Orlando for the night show and he smashed Dorian.

good point about the slin+gh, i think Dorian with his best showing vs Haney with his best showing Dorian is almost impossible to beat but Haney wasn't going to the extremes with insulin and gh Dorian was. Dorian had an incredible foundation to benefit from when he went that route but Haney had an even better foundation to benefit from (understating him to say foundation but you get the point)

Ronnie is Ronnie, not even human. imo top 3 are Sergio, Ronnie and Dorian (judging Dorian at his best)
and Haney would be just a level below that but as you said i think it would have been different had he gone the same route Dorian did.
just different era's and timing.
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Post by: affeman on June 30, 2015, 04:53:19 AM
And he won 8 times to beat the record then stopped. That's a long long time.

Like mentioned before, Haney won 8 Olympias in an era with lil to no competition. The 80s were probably the weakest era in BB, a huge gap after Arnold retired.

In the mid 90s Haney would've had a hard time cracking the Top 6.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 05:01:40 AM
Where did Bob Paris talk about using GH?

In his book Gorilla Suit
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Post by: Royalty on June 30, 2015, 05:02:25 AM
Lee Haney said that he was shocked when he saw Mike Christian backstage in 1990... the drug tested Olympia.

Mike was dry & lean & vascular. Word was that Mike Christian hired Dan Duchaine to help him beat the drug test.


Here they are, circa 1990
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Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 05:27:40 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 05:31:12 AM
 ;)
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Post by: falco on June 30, 2015, 05:46:01 AM
Lee Haney said that he was shocked when he saw Mike Christian backstage in 1990... the drug tested Olympia.

Mike was dry & lean & vascular. Word was that Mike Christian hired Dan Duchaine to help him beat the drug test.


Here they are, circa 1990


Some dude told me that megadosing C vitamin is great to hide steroid use on urine test samples.
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Post by: Royalty on June 30, 2015, 05:52:54 AM
Some dude told me that megadosing C vitamin is great to hide steroid use on urine test samples.

C with bioflavonoids
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Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 30, 2015, 05:55:43 AM
Haney isn't overrated. He's all time Top-5 on anyone's ballot.
Agree, To really appreciate Haney you had to see him in person. His taper was crazy. Tiny waist, big chest and wide shoulders. Mike Christian should have been Mr.O. in 1990 though.
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Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 06:05:16 AM
Man he loved these old school T-Bar rows...no chest support
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Post by: bigkubby on June 30, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
His back was huge and his waist was tiny
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Post by: Dr Dutch on June 30, 2015, 12:09:34 PM
He was the best in his era.....
But good thing he quit in 91, cause Yates would have out-massed and out-conditioned  him in 92.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 30, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
He was the best in his era.....
But good thing he quit in 91, cause Yates would have out-massed and out-conditioned  him in 92.

Right... ::) ::)
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Post by: Howard on June 30, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
Other than his back and chest , his legs arms are on the smallish side. I just don't understand how he took it from Arnold. Discuss

Lee was the greatest BB in the history of the Olympia stage.
The man won 8 straight and was dominant as anyone ever was during their era.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 12:30:04 PM
Right... ::) ::)

Well in Dorian's defense he did beat Haney in the muscularity round when Haney was at his best ever and Dorian was 10lbs lighter. That says a lot. I think if Haney showed up looking like he did in 91 in 92 and Dorian showed up the way he did Haney would probably beat him again. By 1993 NO version of Haney would beat that Dorian
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Post by: bigkubby on June 30, 2015, 12:41:11 PM
Well in Dorian's defense he did beat Haney in the muscularity round when Haney was at his best ever and Dorian was 10lbs lighter. That says a lot. I think if Haney showed up looking like he did in 91 in 92 and Dorian showed up the way he did Haney would probably beat him again. By 1993 NO version of Haney would beat that Dorian
ND so are you saying Dorian was the best ever? Even better than Ronnie and Ronnie work Olympias?😁
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 12:44:17 PM
ND so are you saying Dorian was the best ever? Even better than Ronnie and Ronnie work Olympias?😁

I'm saying Dorian at his best would beat Haney & Ronnie at their best. Ronnie & Haney have more Olympias but neither faced Dorian at his best. And I know where you're going with this so pay careful attention to what I said.
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Post by: njflex on June 30, 2015, 12:58:54 PM
Well in Dorian's defense he did beat Haney in the muscularity round when Haney was at his best ever and Dorian was 10lbs lighter. That says a lot. I think if Haney showed up looking like he did in 91 in 92 and Dorian showed up the way he did Haney would probably beat him again. By 1993 NO version of Haney would beat that Dorian
YATES when he posed he blew up ,up still the relaxed shots of haney he has muscle hanging off every which way in 91,yates winning muscularity round seemed off,but I guess that's what they saw..yates chest was shallow,he looked smaller but a lot to haney..
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Post by: bigkubby on June 30, 2015, 01:05:06 PM
I'm saying Dorian at his best would beat Haney & Ronnie at their best. Ronnie & Haney have more Olympias but neither faced Dorian at his best. And I know where you're going with this so pay careful attention to what I said.
Yates only had a bicep and a half
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
YATES when he posed he blew up ,up still the relaxed shots of haney he has muscle hanging off every which way in 91,yates winning muscularity round seemed off,but I guess that's what they saw..yates chest was shallow,he looked smaller but a lot to haney..

His chest wasn't in Haney's league but then again almost nobody's chest was
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 01:07:11 PM
Yates only had a bicep and a half

Not in 93
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Post by: Dr Dutch on June 30, 2015, 01:16:44 PM
Right... ::) ::)
Wiggs........Yates' not my favourite, but it would have been like this. You know that ?
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Post by: bigmikecox on June 30, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
They could have been an inch or two bigger yes.

QFT

I saw him guest pose in 1990 about 8 weeks out from the Olympia. UNREAL!!!!  Never knew the human chest could be THAT thick!!  Dude was super nice too. I was 16 and saw him at the hotel restaurant. Went up and asked for an autograph. Not only did he give me one, but he talked to me for about 5 minutes during his meal!!!
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Post by: Dr Dutch on June 30, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
:D

Lee was a great Christian bodybuilder.
What is a "Christian bodybuilder" ???
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Post by: bigkubby on June 30, 2015, 01:55:22 PM
Not in 93
right but from then on he did and in that pic I think Haney handed him his ass arms and all
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
right but from then on he did and in that pic I think Haney handed him his ass arms and all

Haney is beating him there no doubts about it. But again 1993 whole different ball of wax
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Post by: bigkubby on June 30, 2015, 03:34:34 PM
Haney is beating him there no doubts about it. But again 1993 whole different ball of wax
only 93 I felt he won then he got pregnant and tore his bicep
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Post by: Mr.1derful on June 30, 2015, 04:22:22 PM
Haney is beating him there no doubts about it. But again 1993 whole different ball of wax

This.  For my money, 1993 Yates is the most completely developed physique ever presented on the Olympia stage.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 04:36:14 PM
This.  For my money, 1993 Yates is the most completely developed physique ever presented on the Olympia stage.

I would say Heath ties him for being complete physique wise but doesn't compare conditioning wise.
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Post by: bigkubby on June 30, 2015, 04:44:46 PM
This.  For my money, 1993 Yates is the most completely developed physique ever presented on the Olympia stage.
agreed here
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Post by: Grape Ape on June 30, 2015, 04:50:23 PM
only 93 I felt he won then he got pregnant and tore his bicep

He was awesome in 95 too.  96 wasn't as bad as people say - I was at that show.  He was insane looking in every back/side shot.
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Post by: Pet shop boys on June 30, 2015, 05:56:13 PM
Haney overrated?

you arent rated at anything anywhere ever. think on that before posting.

Exactly!! Lee  Haney has been the most dominant bodybuilder of all time.


This is the best front last spread ever; not the biggest not the smallest.....   the best


I'm glad the insulin HGH wasn't around during his era otherwise  the balloon thighs and distended gut would've of ruin that marvelous physique .



Wooosshhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 30, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
Exactly!! Lee  Haney has been the most dominant bodybuilder of all time.




Not accurate. Dorian dominated in a way Haney didn't.
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Post by: Pet shop boys on June 30, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
Not accurate. Dorian dominated in a way Haney didn't.

Dorian only won 92 and 93 the rest were gifts blocky biggest gut onstage and ugliest arms ...a total disgrace If you think he was more balanced BodyBuilder than levrone .Wheler and Ray then you're talking as a die hard fan of Yates.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by: Wiggs on June 30, 2015, 08:27:25 PM
Not accurate. Dorian dominated in a way Haney didn't.

Whatever.  Bottom line is the one time they battled Haney won and Dorian lost.  End of story.  All that other stuff you can dream about.
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Post by: SilverSpoon on July 01, 2015, 07:44:24 AM
There is simply no way to over-rate Lee Haney.

I have said this time and again, had Jeff King been allowed to compete in the IFBB Mr. Olympia in 1984, I truly believe that Lee Haney would not have as many Sandows as he does.

Jeff King, in my humble opinion, was the only bodybuilder on the planet who truly could have given Lee a run for his money for many years. 

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Post by: Grape Ape on July 01, 2015, 08:28:16 AM
Dorian only won 92 and 93 the rest were gifts blocky biggest gut onstage and ugliest arms ...a total disgrace If you think he was more balanced BodyBuilder than levrone .Wheler and Ray then you're talking as a die hard fan of Yates.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH

No they were not.  He was so much better than everyone everywhere else he won despite the bicep.  He looked so much better than the others when seen in person.
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Post by: nicorulez on July 01, 2015, 12:24:42 PM
Not in 93

Agreed with ND. Yates in 1993 would have beaten Haney. No way in hell the 1992 version would have won. However, Haney 1991 would have beaten every other version of Yates except 1995. Ronnie in his prime would beat any version of Yates  ;D, but hell that is a discussion that has never been broached before I believe.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 01, 2015, 03:15:36 PM
Whatever.  Bottom line is the one time they battled Haney won and Dorian lost.  End of story.  All that other stuff you can dream about.

That's actually not the end of the story. The story is interesting when you look at it , Dorian Yates in his first ever Mr Olympia contest beat Lee Haney in the muscularity round. That says a LOT. Also Lee hinted he wouldn't be retiring any time soon because he finally learned how to peak on the day of the contest , he retired ( wisely ) you're damn right Dorian is part of the reason he did so. I'm a huge fan of Haney , he was the Mr Olympia when I first started lifting but he would've got beaten by Dorian in 1993. Dorian was so confident in this is called Haney out in 1993 because the Olympia was being staged in Haney's backyard in Atlanta.
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Post by: Royalty on July 01, 2015, 03:20:47 PM
I could be wrong; but I think that the 2 most compelling reasons that Haney retired were:

1) he had the Olympia title record
2) he wanted to get off the drugs and preserve his health
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Post by: Wiggs on July 01, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
That's actually not the end of the story. The story is interesting when you look at it , Dorian Yates in his first ever Mr Olympia contest beat Lee Haney in the muscularity round. That says a LOT. Also Lee hinted he wouldn't be retiring any time soon because he finally learned how to peak on the day of the contest , he retired ( wisely ) you're damn right Dorian is part of the reason he did so. I'm a huge fan of Haney , he was the Mr Olympia when I first started lifting but he would've got beaten by Dorian in 1993. Dorian was so confident in this is called Haney out in 1993 because the Olympia was being staged in Haney's backyard in Atlanta.

No, it doesn't say alot, he lost.  The end.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 01, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
I could be wrong; but I think that the 2 most compelling reasons that Haney retired were:

1) he had the Olympia title record
2) he wanted to get off the drugs and preserve his health

I think the most compelling reason was he beat Arnold's record , to a lesser degree Dorian was coming on real strong. He had everything to lose and nothing to gain. I admire Haney because he literally went out on top in the best shape of his life.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 01, 2015, 03:40:17 PM
No, it doesn't say alot, he lost.  The end.

Stop being so rigid , give Dorian is credit. That says a lot. Haney is the man none-the-less. 8 straight beat Arnold's record went out on stop , still married and has a great family and apparently is healthy.
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Post by: Wiggs on July 01, 2015, 04:03:26 PM
Stop being so rigid , give Dorian is credit. That says a lot. Haney is the man none-the-less. 8 straight beat Arnold's record went out on stop , still married and has a great family and apparently is healthy.

Dorian is awesome. 93 is one of top 5 best physiques of all time. My favorite white bodybuilder, I've said it for years.  BUT, he ushered in this era we see before us. I can't forget that.
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Post by: nicorulez on July 02, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Dorian is awesome. 93 is one of top 5 best physiques of all time. My favorite white bodybuilder, I've said it for years.  BUT, he ushered in this era we see before us. I can't forget that.

True dat Wiggs. However, in 1992 and 1993 especially Dorian was the man. Would Haney have beaten him if he took the drug use to the next level. I would say yes, as he was aesthetically much more appealing. However, 1993 Dorian was a beast. I rate him top two or three to Ronnie at his best. Phill in 2011 or 2012 may have been close as he was sliced and diced, but his physique does not overpower like RC or DY. Lee Haney could have beaten them all, but I don't think he partook in the GH and slin wars to any great degree if at all.
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Post by: Wiggs on July 02, 2015, 07:50:44 PM
True dat Wiggs. However, in 1992 and 1993 especially Dorian was the man. Would Haney have beaten him if he took the drug use to the next level. I would say yes, as he was aesthetically much more appealing. However, 1993 Dorian was a beast. I rate him top two or three to Ronnie at his best. Phill in 2011 or 2012 may have been close as he was sliced and diced, but his physique does not overpower like RC or DY. Lee Haney could have beaten them all, but I don't think he partook in the GH and slin wars to any great degree if at all.


91 Haney would not beat 93 Dorian. No way.  I'll admit that.
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Post by: The Scott on July 02, 2015, 08:13:48 PM
Dorian is awesome. 93 is one of top 5 best physiques of all time. My favorite white bodybuilder, I've said it for years.  BUT, he ushered in this era we see before us. I can't forget that.

Typical racist.  And yes, I know  you were once married to a Caucasian woman of (I believe) Germanic descent, That too is typical of those that harbor racism within their mercenary little hearts.  Marry the variant they loath and then claim not to be a racist because they are married to one of them.

I'm not here to help, just to point out your contradictory ways.  I do realize that you will merely state that it's just your "preference".  Yeah...Your preference to be racist.

Typist.
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Post by: Tarantula157 on July 02, 2015, 11:02:24 PM
Haney is not overrated he is underrated.Up to the end of 80-s he was the biggest symmetrical,aesthetic,shredded bodybuilder ever.
Regarding the HGH use,he probably started taking it as far back as 1984. He definitely made some major changes to his cycles between 83 and 84.
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Post by: Pet shop boys on July 03, 2015, 03:42:44 AM
Haney was underrated actually.


Think about it, he won 8 mr.O.  You rarely see him on a cover of a bodybuilding mag.



Woooshhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by: njflex on July 03, 2015, 07:02:17 AM
Haney is not overrated he is underrated.Up to the end of 80-s he was the biggest symmetrical,aesthetic,shredded bodybuilder ever.
Regarding the HGH use,he probably started taking it as far back as 1984. He definitely made some major changes to his cycles between 83 and 84.
true..and thers a thread here with bbing pics of all yrs mr o in 80's haneys rein and yes bertil fox/beckles were in great shape to him but he had overall thickness/shape in all poses and flow ,they had certain aspects similar but overall they got lost in his best poses /compared to there best/worst poses,,,the other guys then later ,demey/gaspari/christian who was damn close to haney but taller that hurt him,labrada,paris,quinn,bannout,were either outmassed,structured,or combo of all aspects,plus he could pose.
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Post by: Pet shop boys on July 03, 2015, 08:17:57 AM
The way he conducted himself while being number one in the world makes him the best Bodybuilder ever.

Always smiling, always in great shape while guess posing and dressed like an adult while giving seminars,articulated in his ESPN tv show,humble,respectful,100% schmoe free, not an ass kisser, family man, mature for his age (he retired at 31! ) woulve been a fool had he no retired before age 33!!!  ;D ;D ;D.... no BS ,mind games,no cokiness and all crap that comes with this "sport"


Today you have a bunch of 40 year old cry babies acting gansta on instagram,facebook and Twitter .


Lee Haney if you're reading this when I grow up I want to be like you .

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