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WOW!!!...we are basically at full employment......unemploy ment rate down to 5.3%......it can't get any lower......almost 95% of eligible adults are working......CRAZY!....0ver 220,000 jobs created last month....economy doing really well ....WHERE ARE THE DOUBTERS NOW???
I don't even want Dos Equis to post here.....there is nothing for him to say.....SOUL CRUSHER HAS BEEN DESTROYED.....FURY HAS BEEN DESTROYED.......DARIO AND TOMMYTONES missing in action........
Obama is basically king of the country..the liberal agenda rules!!! 8)
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More evidence that liberalism can be a mental disorder.
What is the labor participation rate?
How many unemployed Americans have simply quit looking for work?
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More evidence that liberalism can be a mental disorder.
What is the labor participation rate?
How many unemployed Americans have simply quit looking for work?
you guys always bring up the labor participation rate.......no one brought up that statistic until Obama took office and no one cared about it when unemployment was at 10%
labor participation rate has been steadily climbing for 50 years...will continue to do so after Obama is long gone from office,.,....more population equals more people eligible to work which equals higher amounts of people who are not in the workforce.... 8)
now go cry
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No, no ,no.
Drop in U.E. 3 due to even more workers giving up and dropping out of the work force. Labor market stll in emergency room.
More retail and leisure jobs, more part time jobs.
Labor market still a disaster.
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you guys always bring up the labor participation rate.......no one brought up that statistic until Obama took office and no one cared about it when unemployment was at 10%
labor participation rate has been steadily climbing for 50 years...will continue to do so after Obama is long gone from office,.,....more population equals more people eligible to work which equals higher amounts of people who are not in the workforce.... 8)
now go cry
LFPR is climbing?
Anyways, the jobs number was a bummer what's worse was, yet again, the type of jobs being "created." As for the LFPR it's rapidly declining and not for the reasons in the past. The age cohort of those giving up is younger as older workers have to hang on to their jobs to survive.
These are known facts that Dos and myself are discussing. You prove time and again with these silly threads that you lack the depth to have a calm, rational discussion without resorting to tires Left/Right claptrap.
Oh well.
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Less people looking for unemployment.
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WOW!!!...we are basically at full employment......unemploy ment rate down to 5.3%......it can't get any lower......almost 95% of eligible adults are working......CRAZY!....0ver 220,000 jobs created last month....economy doing really well ....WHERE ARE THE DOUBTERS NOW???
I don't even want Dos Equis to post here.....there is nothing for him to say.....SOUL CRUSHER HAS BEEN DESTROYED.....FURY HAS BEEN DESTROYED.......DARIO AND TOMMYTONES missing in action........
Obama is basically king of the country..the liberal agenda rules!!! 8)
Hahaha, not this again. lol
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you guys always bring up the labor participation rate.......no one brought up that statistic until Obama took office and no one cared about it when unemployment was at 10%
labor participation rate has been steadily climbing for 50 years...will continue to do so after Obama is long gone from office,.,....more population equals more people eligible to work which equals higher amounts of people who are not in the workforce.... 8)
now go cry
What was the labor participation rate under Bush, and what was it now?
If actual UE went down in the past 7 years.... did labor participation go up or down as well?
I often see "well, that number is fcked because...." but I never see the Bush version of the new number they'd rather show us.
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WOW!!!...we are basically at full employment......unemploy ment rate down to 5.3%......it can't get any lower......almost 95% of eligible adults are working......CRAZY!....0ver 220,000 jobs created last month....economy doing really well ....WHERE ARE THE DOUBTERS NOW???
I don't even want Dos Equis to post here.....there is nothing for him to say.....SOUL CRUSHER HAS BEEN DESTROYED.....FURY HAS BEEN DESTROYED.......DARIO AND TOMMYTONES missing in action........
Obama is basically king of the country..the liberal agenda rules!!! 8)
^^^^ This is a MORON.
Currently 110 Million WORKING Americans support 220 Million NON WORKING Americans. ( do the math)
It's ALL about Labor Participation Rate. The unemployment number ONLY counts those receiving UE benefits. It does not count unemployed workers LOOKING for work.
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^^^^ This is a MORON.
Currently 110 Million WORKING Americans support 220 Million NON WORKING Americans. ( do the math)
It's ALL about Labor Participation Rate. The unemployment number ONLY counts those receiving UE benefits. It does not count unemployed workers LOOKING for work.
So out of that number...how many have retired?? How many are stay at home moms or dads, how many are students in school or college, how many are disabled, how many are abroad and work outside the country....HOW MANY ARE DEAD?? (yes they get counted accidentally).
The only person making a fool of themselves is you.... ::)
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No, no ,no.
Drop in U.E. 3 due to even more workers giving up and dropping out of the work force. Labor market stll in emergency room.
More retail and leisure jobs, more part time jobs.
Labor market still a disaster.
not true...but more importantly, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? ;) ;)
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LFPR is climbing?
Anyways, the jobs number was a bummer what's worse was, yet again, the type of jobs being "created." As for the LFPR it's rapidly declining and not for the reasons in the past. The age cohort of those giving up is younger as older workers have to hang on to their jobs to survive.
These are known facts that Dos and myself are discussing. You prove time and again with these silly threads that you lack the depth to have a calm, rational discussion without resorting to tires Left/Right claptrap.
Oh well.
I'm sorry...thanks for the correction...I meant that the Labor Participation rate has been going DOWN for years....but anyway, that's not Obama's fault.,.again..more people in the country, means more people eligible to work
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Less people looking for unemployment.
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???...didn't know people actually LOOK for UNEMPLOYMENT...I gotta try that :D
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^^^^ This is a MORON.
Currently 110 Million WORKING Americans support 220 Million NON WORKING Americans. ( do the math)
It's ALL about Labor Participation Rate. The unemployment number ONLY counts those receiving UE benefits. It does not count unemployed workers LOOKING for work.
a lot of those 220 million Americans are children, college students still being supported by parents, rich families whose members don't need to work, parents who are stay at home mom and dads, the disabled, the mentally ill, the homeless, and people in prison
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What was the labor participation rate under Bush, and what was it now?
If actual UE went down in the past 7 years.... did labor participation go up or down as well?
I often see "well, that number is fcked because...." but I never see the Bush version of the new number they'd rather show us.
yep..people only bring it up to denigrate Obama's legacy
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^^^^ This is a MORON.
Currently 110 Million WORKING Americans support 220 Million NON WORKING Americans. ( do the math)
It's ALL about Labor Participation Rate. The unemployment number ONLY counts those receiving UE benefits. It does not count unemployed workers LOOKING for work.
By all measures the economy is lightyears ahead of where Bush left it, you honestly can't be serious?
I get you don't like Obama, but the country is doing far better.
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By all measures the economy is lightyears ahead of where Bush left it, you honestly can't be serious?
I get you don't like Obama, but the country is doing far better.
Agreed......and therein lies the problem....some on here are so anti-Obama they lose all sense of reason
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??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???...didn't know people actually LOOK for UNEMPLOYMENT...I gotta try that :D
Hey! Watch it! >:( :-X :D
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The discussion at hand has all the markings of paradigmatic (i.e., parochial) left-right thinking, like virtually all others on this board.
Nonetheless, the status of the labor market is indeed a significant long-term issue, one whose outlook looks rather grim: the corporate world's inexorable need for profit plus scientific idealism will continue to drive exponential technological advancement, leading to increased robotization/computerization. This in turn will seemingly make huge swathes of workers obsolete, workers who cannot simply learn new skills like economic models assume. How will our society navigate between the Charybdis of ever-increasing reliance on government for basic needs and the Scylla of major societal unrest?
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The discussion at hand has all the markings of paradigmatic (i.e., parochial) left-right thinking, like virtually all others on this board.
Nonetheless, the status of the labor market is indeed a significant long-term issue, one whose outlook looks rather grim: the corporate world's inexorable need for profit plus scientific idealism will continue to drive exponential technological advancement, leading to increased robotization/computerization. This in turn will seemingly make huge swathes of workers obsolete, workers who cannot simply learn new skills like economic models assume. How will our society navigate between the Charybdis of ever-increasing reliance on government for basic needs and the Scylla of major societal unrest?
Automation.
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By all measures the economy is lightyears ahead of where Bush left it, you honestly can't be serious?
I get you don't like Obama, but the country is doing far better.
Exactly. There is no debate about this fact. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply stupid or a victim of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
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Exactly. There is no debate about this fact. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply stupid or a victim of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
There are still issues, but as a whole it is much better, particular parts may be dysfunctional, or worse etc.
However, if you take a snapshot of both economies and ask which one is stronger, it's obvious.
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Exactly. There is no debate about this fact. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply stupid or a victim of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Agreed X100
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LFPR is climbing?
Anyways, the jobs number was a bummer what's worse was, yet again, the type of jobs being "created." As for the LFPR it's rapidly declining and not for the reasons in the past. The age cohort of those giving up is younger as older workers have to hang on to their jobs to survive.
These are known facts that Dos and myself are discussing. You prove time and again with these silly threads that you lack the depth to have a calm, rational discussion without resorting to tires Left/Right claptrap.
Oh well.
Exactly.
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By all measures the economy is lightyears ahead of where Bush left it, you honestly can't be serious?
I get you don't like Obama, but the country is doing far better.
What was the national debt when he took over and what is it today?
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What was the national debt when he took over and what is it today?
Odd you would use a measure that have forever increased, he increased it by all accounts 3-5 trillion, a large chunk was Bush's debt, ie unpaid tax cuts, the wars etc. He has increased the debt, not by the most percentage, nor is the debt to GDP ratio at it's highest, this is after a great recession, look at the great depression as a better measure. The deficit you asked about is plummeting, fastest in history in fact.
debt is not an accurate measure, it's completely without context, just like the deficit is not.
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Odd you would use a measure that have forever increased, he increased it by all accounts 3-5 trillion, a large chunk was Bush's debt, ie unpaid tax cuts, the wars etc. He has increased the debt, not by the most percentage, nor is the debt to GDP ratio at it's highest, this is after a great recession, look at the great depression as a better measure. The deficit you asked about is plummeting, fastest in history in fact.
debt is not an accurate measure, it's completely without context, just like the deficit is not.
First you say "by all measures" the economy is doing better. The national debt (among other things) shows that is a false statement.
Then you say "by all accounts" the debt increased "3-5 trillion." That is also false. It increased by $8 trillion.
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First you say "by all measures" the economy is doing better. The national debt (among other things) shows that is a false statement.
Then you say "by all accounts" the debt increased "3-5 trillion." That is also false. It increased by $8 trillion.
It did not increase by eight trillion if we are talking about what Obama added. if you simply start 2008 then you are correct, however, you are attributing debt that was agreed upon before his fiscal policies were in effect.
Your first statement shows you are clueless, quick example. One country has 17 trillion in debt, another 333 billion, another 1.9 trillion, how are the economies doing? Your question is silly, it's not reflective of the situation at all, there is no context. You are simply using semantics.
the fact the deficit is reducing shows his policies are creating surplus.
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"The world obviously stopped when he took office and there were no long term effects from anything.
He started from zero."
yeah...thats what happened ::)
sometimes i wonder if these dudes are even serious, do they even engage in 2nd level thinking.. or just sit and wait for marching orders from Sean Hannity....
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First you say "by all measures" the economy is doing better. The national debt (among other things) shows that is a false statement.
Then you say "by all accounts" the debt increased "3-5 trillion." That is also false. It increased by $8 trillion.
yeah, it sucks that we have to keep borrowing more to pay interest on the debt accumulated by prior administrations
We should have just defaulted like many teabag morons wanted us to do
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It did not increase by eight trillion if we are talking about what Obama added. if you simply start 2008 then you are correct, however, you are attributing debt that was agreed upon before his fiscal policies were in effect.
Your first statement shows you are clueless, quick example. One country has 17 trillion in debt, another 333 billion, another 1.9 trillion, how are the economies doing? Your question is silly, it's not reflective of the situation at all, there is no context. You are simply using semantics.
the fact the deficit is reducing shows his policies are creating surplus.
Your first statement shows you are a troll who just pulled info out of your rear end and didn't think anyone would actually pay attention. You are the one who said "by any measure." You are wrong, as usual. But that's what happens when you troll.
You are also the one who said Obama only added "3-5 trillion" to the national debt. That is horse manure. Aside from the fact the number is actually $8 trillion, you have a range of $2 trillion?? lol Trolling again.
You Obamabots are delusional. Reminds me of this:
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"The world obviously stopped when he took office and there were no long term effects from anything.
He started from zero."
yeah...thats what happened ::)
sometimes i wonder if these dudes are even serious, do they even engage in 2nd level thinking.. or just sit and wait for marching orders from Sean Hannity....
Where did the quote come from?
I wonder the same thing about Obamabots. Read the Daily Kos. Watch MSNBC. Take orders and talking points from The Messiah. Spread disinformation. Repeat.
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What was the national debt when he took over and what is it today?
Don't be a jerk-off...a lot of that debt is a hangover from Bush's prescription drug bill.....and the two wars...plus with unemployment as high as it was when Obama took office of course tax revenue was down..none of it his fault.....you could blame him for the deficit being increased due to his stimulis package, ..BUT.....Austerity does not work in a recession...ask the EU
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It did not increase by eight trillion if we are talking about what Obama added. if you simply start 2008 then you are correct, however, you are attributing debt that was agreed upon before his fiscal policies were in effect.
Your first statement shows you are clueless, quick example. One country has 17 trillion in debt, another 333 billion, another 1.9 trillion, how are the economies doing? Your question is silly, it's not reflective of the situation at all, there is no context. You are simply using semantics.
the fact the deficit is reducing shows his policies are creating surplus.
AGREED
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"The world obviously stopped when he took office and there were no long term effects from anything.
He started from zero."
yeah...thats what happened ::)
sometimes i wonder if these dudes are even serious, do they even engage in 2nd level thinking.. or just sit and wait for marching orders from Sean Hannity....
genius line..good job
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Don't be a jerk-off...a lot of that debt is a hangover from Bush's prescription drug bill.....and the two wars...plus with unemployment as high as it was when Obama took office of course tax revenue was down..none of it his fault.....you could blame him for the deficit being increased due to his stimulis package, ..BUT.....Austerity does not work in a recession...ask the EU
Bush's fault. How original.
No, the $8 trillion added to the national debt on Obama's watch is not Bush's fault. It's the fault of an irresponsible government that refuses to address the problem, starting with our leader.
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Bush's fault. How original.
No, the $8 trillion added to the national debt on Obama's watch is not Bush's fault. It's the fault of an irresponsible government that refuses to address the problem, starting with our leader.
This is the only coherent thing you've said...this is accurate.....all administrations and congress refuse to deal with the issue of the deficit....HOWEVER..by keeping us out of unnecessary wars Obama is lowering our deficit..albeit in a roundabout way
The budget gap has been trending DOWNWARD for years since Obama has taken office THUS....less money having to be borrowed
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This is the only coherent thing you've said...this is accurate.....all administrations and congress refuse to deal with the issue of the deficit....HOWEVER..by keeping us out of unnecessary wars Obama is lowering our deficit..albeit in a roundabout way
The budget gap has been trending DOWNWARD for years since Obama has taken office THUS....less money having to be borrowed
Anyone wanting to know how we elect, then reelect a demonstrable failure like President Obama need only read this ^^^^ kind of stuff. :-\
The buck stops at the top. If the president wasn't unpatriotic (his word), he would have been all over Congress to deal with the national debt. He would be making tough choices regarding runaway and wasteful government spending. He would submit balanced budgets to Congress. He would freeze discretionary spending (which promised to do and never did). He would stop talking about raising taxes. He wouldn't be attacking businesses that create most of the jobs in this country.
People looking at our financial picture objectively can see how troubling things are and what a lousy job the president did the past six years.
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Anyone wanting to know how we elect, then reelect a demonstrable failure like President Obama need only read this ^^^^ kind of stuff. :-\
The buck stops at the top. If the president wasn't unpatriotic (his word), he would have been all over Congress to deal with the national debt. He would be making tough choices regarding runaway and wasteful government spending. He would submit balanced budgets to Congress. He would freeze discretionary spending (which promised to do and never did). He would stop talking about raising taxes. He wouldn't be attacking businesses that create most of the jobs in this country.
People looking at our financial picture objectively can see how troubling things are and what a lousy job the president did the past six years.
your irrational fear and hatred of Obama has really gotten the best of you.......
Congress is run by REPUBLICANS who instinctively take positions exactly opposite of Obama even when they previously advocated for Obama's point of view....they are very cynical in that regard....why would they now all of sudden work with Obama on the deficit??????????....
Obama has been attacking businesses??????????........this is news to me..Businesses and corporate America has NEVER done this well under any other president...profits are way up and they are paying less taxes and paying people less than ever before......Obama LOVES Wall Street.......what the hell are you talking about???????..he simply says they need to pay people more and stop evading taxes.....sounds fair to me
as for making tough choices on finances, he kept us out of war which has greatly reduced our deficit and has been very fiscally responsible for a Democrat...and the ACA has slowed down our national spending on healthcare and reduced it tremendously in some areas
DESTROYED ONCE AGAIN
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your irrational fear and hatred of Obama has really gotten the best of you.......
Congress is run by REPUBLICANS who instinctively take positions exactly opposite of Obama even when they previously advocated for Obama's point of view....they are very cynical in that regard....why would they now all of sudden work with Obama on the deficit??????????....
Obama has been attacking businesses??????????........this is news to me..Businesses and corporate America has NEVER done this well under any other president...profits are way up and they are paying less taxes and paying people less than ever before......Obama LOVES Wall Street.......what the hell are you talking about???????..he simply says they need to pay people more and stop evading taxes.....sounds fair to me
as for making tough choices on finances, he kept us out of war which has greatly reduced our deficit and has been very fiscally responsible for a Democrat...and the ACA has slowed down our national spending on healthcare and reduced it tremendously in some areas
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lol. I'm embarrassed for you. I have two responses:
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2. The president should be leading from the front, not the rear. Congress hasn't refused to work with him. He has never taken the initiative to work with Congress. He doesn't meet with them, including members of own party on a regular basis. He couldn't even work with Congress when Democrats controlled both houses. Remember how he barely got Obamacare passed, and even then only after he lied to his fellow Democrats about the mandate being a tax?
When the president leaves office, he is going to proclaim his administration a success, because lapdogs like you are going to be there cheerleading whatever he says. There are many like you unfortunately.
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What was the national debt when he took over and what is it today?
so every president with a massive growth in debt is a failure?
Why shit on reagan like that, man?
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so every president with a massive growth in debt is a failure?
Why shit on reagan like that, man?
it grew at a higher percentage also. Without context debt is a stupid measure of someone's fiscal policies, the deficit is far better indicator of how THIS particular government is doing.
He is clinging to anything he can to make a point. In our exchanges he generally gets embarrassed so little things like this are his only reprieve.
No one is saying it's Bush's fault, but you don't credit Obama with spending already in place before HIS fiscal policies are in action, it makes no fucking sense at all. It makes no sense to charge Bush with similar debt nor anyone else.
He spent money, as you should in a recession, it worked relative to other countries in similar positions particularly those who choose austerity (a completely moronic action during a recession) you can't lower the spending of the biggest cog in an economy when the economy is already faltering.
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Easiest way to settle the issue here is with a simple question.
Would you rather the economy resemble what it was in 2008 or in 2015? Pretty easy to answer unless you are a biased party bullshitter.
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lol. I'm embarrassed for you. I have two responses:
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2. The president should be leading from the front, not the rear. Congress hasn't refused to work with him. He has never taken the initiative to work with Congress. He doesn't meet with them, including members of own party on a regular basis. He couldn't even work with Congress when Democrats controlled both houses. Remember how he barely got Obamacare passed, and even then only after he lied to his fellow Democrats about the mandate being a tax?
When the president leaves office, he is going to proclaim his administration a success, because lapdogs like you are going to be there cheerleading whatever he says. There are many like you unfortunately.
Congress has never had Obama's best interests (and by extension, the best interests of the country) at heart, and the Republicans were so shocked at the election of a black president they vowed to destroy him and not let any of his agenda get through...Mitch McConnell said right after Obama was elected "My goal is to make him a one term president"....they did not work with him on Obamacare...called him a liar during a speech on national TV.....invited the Israeli leader to speak to congress BEHIND HIS BACK and then sent a near-treasonous letter to Iran urging them not to negotiate with the president....Not to mention all they have done for the last seven years is try to repeal Obamacare....which is unprecedented..usually when a law is enacted the opposition will work to help moify it, NOT repeal it....its sour grapes.....are these people who you would think would actually help Obama????? ..if you wwere president would you work with them?????????????
KEEP DREAMING
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so every president with a massive growth in debt is a failure?
Why shit on reagan like that, man?
The Republican in Name Only dumping on Republicans again? Shocking.
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The Republican in Name Only dumping on Republicans again? Shocking.
the lady doth protest a bit much.
if you're a RINO, why are you the only one who defends them every time they come up?
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Congress has never had Obama's best interests (and by extension, the best interests of the country) at heart, and the Republicans were so shocked at the election of a black president they vowed to destroy him and not let any of his agenda get through...Mitch McConnell said right after Obama was elected "My goal is to make him a one term president"....they did not work with him on Obamacare...called him a liar during a speech on national TV.....invited the Israeli leader to speak to congress BEHIND HIS BACK and then sent a near-treasonous letter to Iran urging them not to negotiate with the president....Not to mention all they have done for the last seven years is try to repeal Obamacare....which is unprecedented..usually when a law is enacted the opposition will work to help moify it, NOT repeal it....its sour grapes.....are these people who you would think would actually help Obama????? ..if you wwere president would you work with them?????????????
KEEP DREAMING
Republicans vowed to destroy Obama because he's black? Proof? Link?
Nobody worked with Obama on Obamacare, including his own party, because he didn't work with them. As I said, he lied to convince his own party members to vote for the bill. That is a fact.
"They" didn't call Obama a liar during a speech. A single representative did. And it turns out he was right.
I'm glad the House GOP invited Netanyahu to speak, after Obama spent years throwing Israel under the bus, including endangering their existence by caving to Iran.
"They" didn't sent a "near treasonous letter" to Iran. A single representative wrote a letter, because he was concerned about Obama endangering the country and one of our allies. And he didn't "send it." He posted it on the friggin internet.
I wish Congress would do more to repeal that disaster of a law. Obamacare is bad for the country.
Now, I'm not doing that again (addressing all of the BS you put in one post), but it's clear you are a true believer. The facts don't matter to true believers. You will simply say whatever your Messiah tells you to say.
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the lady doth protest a bit much.
if you're a RINO, why are you the only one who defends them every time they come up?
You are a lying liar. You are not a Republican. You are not a conservative. You are the biggest liberal on this board.
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Republicans vowed to destroy Obama because he's black? Proof? Link?
Nobody worked with Obama on Obamacare, including his own party, because he didn't work with them. As I said, he lied to convince his own party members to vote for the bill. That is a fact.
"They" didn't call Obama a liar during a speech. A single representative did. And it turns out he was right.
I'm glad the House GOP invited Netanyahu to speak, after Obama spent years throwing Israel under the bus, including endangering their existence by caving to Iran.
"They" didn't sent a "near treasonous letter" to Iran. A single representative wrote a letter, because he was concerned about Obama endangering the country and one of our allies. And he didn't "send it." He posted it on the friggin internet.
I wish Congress would do more to repeal that disaster of a law. Obamacare is bad for the country.
Now, I'm not doing that again (addressing all of the BS you put in one post), but it's clear you are a true believer. The facts don't matter to true believers. You will simply say whatever your Messiah tells you to say.
wow.....I agree with you on one point....I'm not going through this again with you either....you used to be pretty reasonable but now you are as bad as the worst right-wingers on here.....facts simply do not matter to you.... you're amazing!
and yes they DID send the letter to IRAN and it was signed by many Republican members of congress....not SEND in the true sense of the word, as in putting an actual letter in the mail :)...but they wrote an open letter which serves the exact same purpose...you're playing with semantics....
also no one is destroying Israel more than the Israelis themselves..... they have thumbed their noses repeatedly at past presidents including Obama....they especially disrespected George Bush when he pleaded with them to stop building settlements and then would announce new settlements whenever Bush would send an envoy......Obama has basically called them out on this issue whereas other presidnets have been too timid politically to do so....and Netanyahu has said recently while campaigning that there will never be a two state solution while he is president....which has been the cornerstone of US policy....so now who has undercut whom????????
Obama has stated and correctly so, that time is not on the side of the jews.....the palestinian population grows larger and larger and it is estimated that their population will overtake the jews in a few years..try making a deal with them then WHEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE MAJORITY..Obama is saying make peace with them now and make a deal now while you still have some leverage.....yet Obama is criticized for telling the truth???????
GET REAL
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You are a lying liar. You are not a Republican. You are not a conservative. You are the biggest liberal on this board.
You claim you are not a Republican. So what's the big deal about someone who does claim to be one?
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You claim you are not a Republican. So what's the big deal about someone who does claim to be one?
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Great discussion. :D
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Great discussion. :D
can't have a rational duiscussion with you, hence the eye-rolling :D
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can't have a rational duiscussion with you, hence the eye-rolling :D
Depends on who I'm talking too. :)
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Depends on who I'm talking too. :)
you need to ask yourself why the need to pick apart Obama's accompishments.....I could list 20 things easily that he's accomplished as president
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you need to ask yourself why the need to pick apart Obama's accompishments.....I could list 20 things easily that he's accomplished as president
No I don't. He's a failure. Of epic proportions.
I could easily list why he is a massive failure, but it would be a waste of time.
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No I don't. He's a failure. Of epic proportions.
I could easily list why he is a massive failure, but it would be a waste of time.
most would be exaggerations..as they usually are from the likes of you, soul crusher, coach, etc......
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most would be exaggerations..as they usually are from the likes of you, soul crusher, coach, etc......
lol. Irony.
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lol. Irony.
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dude, get it together. summer debates, fall scandals and spring primaries are upon us.
it's time to UP the getbig political game with some good, serious, fun, thought-provoking discussions. This eye rolling stuff wrecks good threads man. I want this place to be interesting again.
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dude, get it together. summer debates, fall scandals and spring primaries are upon us.
it's time to UP the getbig political game with some good, serious, fun, thought-provoking discussions. This eye rolling stuff wrecks good threads man. I want this place to be interesting again.
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For the intellectual midgets in this thread, here's a cartoon for you to explain why Obama is full of shit and why the UE rate is a complete lie:
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/07/20150707_spin.jpg)
We have more people in the workforce who are unemployed than the entire nations of the UK, France and Italy. Just some reality for the fools.
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For the intellectual midgets in this thread, here's a cartoon for you to explain why Obama is full of shit and why the UE rate is a complete lie:
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/07/20150707_spin.jpg)
We have more people in the workforce who are unemployed than the entire nations of the UK, France and Italy. Just some reality for the fools.
this is the last time I am going to explain this....YES the amount of eligible people who can work and are not working is growing every year...AGREED....HOWEVER ..many of those eligible are not working due to many different factors...is it because some can't find a job?...YES...however the others are not employed for many reasons due to:
INCREASING AUTOMATION
COMPUTERS....in which a small businessman for example can do all the jobs on a computer that he used to need a lawyer, accountant, bookkeeper, and tax preparer for.
PREGNANCY
TAKING TIME OFF TO STAY AT HOME WITH KIDS (I did this for almost a year)
SEMI-RETIRED
DISABLED
MENTALLY ILL
COLLEGE STUDENTS
GROWN ADULTS STILL BEING SUPPORTED BY MOM AND DAD
SPOUSES BEING SUPPORTED BY THEIR SPOUSES
CHILDREN
PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO START BUSINESSES
RETIREES
THE RICH WHO DONT NEED TO WORK
THOSE WHO ARE NOT RICH BUT LIVE OFF STOCKS AND DIVIDENDS
THOSE WHO LEFT WORK TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL
THOSE WHO NOW LIVE ABROAD (like all the former Nazi's who are now American citizens and receive SS)
CRIMINALS (who have no intention of getting a job)
ALREADY WORKING PART-TIME AND CONTENT WITH THAT
the labor participation rate has been going down for many many years....not just since Obama took office.......it will continue to go down because our population is skyrocketing UP
and I'm sure there are more I left out........like I said before, its a measure of our wealth as a nation that you don't see many of these people out on the street starving and dying like you see in other countries
who's the fool now???????????????????????
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For the intellectual midgets in this thread, here's a cartoon for you to explain why Obama is full of shit and why the UE rate is a complete lie:
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/07/20150707_spin.jpg)
We have more people in the workforce who are unemployed than the entire nations of the UK, France and Italy. Just some reality for the fools.
Some unfortunate truth right there.
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Some unfortunate truth right there.
only to those who are willfully blind
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only to those who are willfully blind
Or in your case, retarded.
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Or in your case, retarded.
Dude, where you been?
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Dude, where you been?
chased away from the board like all the other stupid conservatives
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the labor participation rate has been going down for many many years....not just since Obama took office.......it will continue to go down because our population is skyrocketing UP
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Please shut the fuck up. The labor participation rate has not been in decline, it's actually been held pretty stable during strong economic growth times at around 66% which is the benchmark for a healthy economy.
Secondly, most of the reasons you list in your silly tirade are reasons rooted in the fact that people can't find jobs, or can't find full time employment in their field. They are either not working (not by choice) or working 10 hours a week doing something that's unrelated to the field of their trained expertise. As example, most young people living with their parents aren't there because they just love living with their parents so much that they decided to stay home and have family time, it's because they can't find a job to support themselves.
If you are going to engage in conversation with me you better have your statements backed up with facts. Your opinion means nothing.
The fact is we have more people looking for jobs who can't find them than the entire populations of many European countries. If you think that's somehow explained away with irrational, non-fact based delusion then keep on keeping on. I can't change stupid, I can only help the ignorant.