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No shade to people who make the choice to use drugs but this video is pretty much spot on.
I did t even know mike matarazzo died :-\
Russian roulette
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Thanks for embedding I can't seem to do that from my phone
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The name: L. U. I.
The game: Schmoeing
Bubb-bubbl-bubble butt on a dailyyyy basees
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(http://)Yes he talks smack but what he saying is spot on....
I didn't even realise mike died... One of my faves from flex days.
I remember reading an article he wrote after he started having heart problems in 2004 he just had a son too and he said he regrets ever touching steroids and that he probably wouldn't live another 15 years. He also said he wish he had kept on driving his removal truck and never got into competitive bodybuilding.
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(http://)Yes he talks smack but what he saying is spot on....
I didn't even realise mike died... One of my faves from flex days.
I remember reading an article he wrote after he started having heart problems in 2004 he just had a son too and he said he regrets ever touching steroids and that he probably wouldn't live another 15 years. He also said he wish he had kept on driving his removal truck and never got into competitive bodybuilding.
I remember too...think he had bypass surgery at one point, in an interview he said he ate 5lb of red meat every day for years. I'm sure that had alot to do with it, and the effects of steroid only exacerbated the damage to his arteries and heart. Very sad.
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Yes that is the same article, he seemed like a cool guy.
In life it's always a good idea to weigh up the pros and cons before making decisions a lot of people abuse the power of choice. Now for a pro bodybuilder I can see the rationale slightly of taking drugs, in my personal opinion I don't think it is ever worth it no amount of money etc is worth a year of life. However that my perception a Heath or a Coleman might say yeah I'll do it it's worth it. One does wonder if they would or will have that stance in hindsight if they get the chance .. Because some don't a la Nasser munzer mike etc etc
What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
But at the end of the day everyone has to live their own life.
RIP MIKE matazzaro
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Its odd how now after TRT has become SOP its common to see ambulance chaser tv commercials regarding
patients developing the same side effects pro bb'ers have been explaining away as "heridtary".
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What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
I can
Being mediocre sometimes is not worth living.
I'm sure my working hours and stress would not have done good for my life span but what choice do I have? Work as a security guard stress free? Who will pay for my Dubai India holidays and the life of a man who worries about money running out end of a month?
If you take 2g of steroids whether competitive or not is not a good idea, bodybuilding is financially a very poor choice of a career....so if you do mild cycles and eat healthy and enjoy the body you achieve sensibly by smashing pussy 20 years younger than you are than that's the life....life is about living and what you do with it that's important not necessarily how long.
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Yes that is the same article, he seemed like a cool guy.
In life it's always a good idea to weigh up the pros and cons before making decisions a lot of people abuse the power of choice. Now for a pro bodybuilder I can see the rationale slightly of taking drugs, in my personal opinion I don't think it is ever worth it no amount of money etc is worth a year of life. However that my perception a Heath or a Coleman might say yeah I'll do it it's worth it. One does wonder if they would or will have that stance in hindsight if they get the chance .. Because some don't a la Nasser munzer mike etc etc
What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
But at the end of the day everyone has to live their own life.
RIP MIKE matazzaro
what about you personally?
you just did 175 lb dumbbell press right?
please let us know what type of oatmeal you had for breakfast
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Not being huge doesn't make anyone mediocre we all have different gifts the problem people all seem to want the same thing which doesn't lead to happiness. For example though I am a proficient swimmer I will never be the fastest swimmer in the world so why would I do some thing to fuck up my life and health to try to achieve this. Nothing in life is worth .... Life itself.
It's easy to come off blaise saying because I don't want to be mediocre I will do this or that even though it fucksup my health ... Easy until your kidneys are a one or someone is changing your bedpan... It's a no brained really. The joke is 90% of guys who do it still look mediocre (which is relative) to a guy who genetically blessed in that field... health is everything unfortunately some don't have the foresight to realise it till we lose it. A Derek Anthony springs to mind...
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what about you personally?
you just did 175 lb dumbbell press right?
please let us know what type of oatmeal you had for breakfast
I'll tell you how I did it
15 yrs now of shut the fuck up and train. I invested a god legion of my like recreationally into lifting but I guess that's not the answer you want to hear though. People only see the final product not the injuries time etc put in 15 years. When you invest that much time into something if it falls within your genetic gift then you will excel
I don't look at a swimmer who can do 90 lengths and ask him what did you eat to do that. Lazy way of thinking because the assumption is it has to be anything but hard work and time invested... Ok I we Quaker oats you run go out and get some and you will press 175 dumbells too
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I'll tell you how I did it
15 yrs now of shut the fuck up and train. I invested a god legion of my like recreationally into lifting but I guess that's not the answer you want to hear though. People only see the final product not the injuries time etc put in 15 years. When you invest that much time into something if it falls within your genetic gift then you will excel
I don't look at a swimmer who can do 90 lengths and ask him what did you eat to do that. Lazy way of thinking because the assumption is it has to be anything but hard work and time invested... Ok I we Quaker oats you run go out and get some and you will press 175 dumbells too
here's the thing
not everybody here wants to read this crap so just talk about your lifts and drop the horse shit about *training with heart*
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We are fortunate to have amongst ourselves incredibly gifted people like meso78, who are life time natties and have 19 inch biceps ( he provided a photo with a measuring tape )
I for one am impressed beyond words and want to add that not only is he a natty benching 405 lbs, but also he contibues to grow and maintains a ripped physique by eating only 2 jamaican meals a day without paying attention to diet .
I envy you Mesomorph78, for being so genetically gifted, probably the most gifted ever on strength and size+ rippedness.
Here's the man himself : let's praise his lifetime natty accomplishments and not bash him .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49492;image)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49493;image)
Here is the MAN himself describing his lifts in detail ...
" my shoulder press is
on dumbells 110's for 7 reps final set
incline presses... at my gym we dont have a proper freewight incline stand so i do smith and dumbelll week obviously dumbells...
most ive ever maxed with on incline dumbells was 150.. usual workouts i g up to 130's
on the smith i incline 315.. for 10 reps on a usual workout day.... max on a good day 352... this smith machine is easy.. well i think so like at jd dawudos gym when i train with my friend there...his smith is a lot harder... 315 for 7 on his.."
wow! that's all I gotta say : WOW!
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That's tiny me.. I'm Quite bigger now
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I never knew you were British...
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Yes that is the same article, he seemed like a cool guy.
In life it's always a good idea to weigh up the pros and cons before making decisions a lot of people abuse the power of choice. Now for a pro bodybuilder I can see the rationale slightly of taking drugs, in my personal opinion I don't think it is ever worth it no amount of money etc is worth a year of life. However that my perception a Heath or a Coleman might say yeah I'll do it it's worth it. One does wonder if they would or will have that stance in hindsight if they get the chance .. Because some don't a la Nasser munzer mike etc etc
What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
But at the end of the day everyone has to live their own life.
RIP MIKE matazzaro
why do people
ride / race motorbikes
hang glide
go rock climbing
cliff diving/ base jumping
bungee jumping
deep sea diving/ sky diving
etc etc etc etc etc....
people enjoy different things.. some of them are dangerous, some extremely dangerous...
Its quite stupid to judge what someone else does as a hobby. Just mind your business and do your own thing.
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I'll tell you how I did it
15 yrs now of shut the fuck up and train. I invested a god legion of my like recreationally into lifting but I guess that's not the answer you want to hear though. People only see the final product not the injuries time etc put in 15 years. When you invest that much time into something if it falls within your genetic gift then you will excel
I don't look at a swimmer who can do 90 lengths and ask him what did you eat to do that. Lazy way of thinking because the assumption is it has to be anything but hard work and time invested... Ok I we Quaker oats you run go out and get some and you will press 175 dumbells too
i used to give you as much shit as anyone, but i can appreciate your advice more as i get older
trying to excel at something you were never meant for is a recipe for disaster. you first need to find what you excel at, then pursue it over time. i always wanted to excel physically, but it's not in the cards for me. i'm still learning to balance my expectations with my abilities.
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Mesomorph78 -
Haters always gonna hate, you know that .....
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these days i just train bis lats chest and quads.
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yes congrats on being history's most genetically gifted human
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What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
But at the end of the day everyone has to live their own life.
LOL at you starting ANOTHER thread worrying about how others live their lives and staying up at night concerned over the decisions they make. ::)
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LOL at you starting ANOTHER thread worrying about how others live their lives and staying up at night concerned over the decisions they make. ::)
Im not worried I'm just stating my opinion brother ...
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why do people
ride / race motorbikes
hang glide
go rock climbing
cliff diving/ base jumping
bungee jumping
deep sea diving/ sky diving
etc etc etc etc etc....
people enjoy different things.. some of them are dangerous, some extremely dangerous...
Its quite stupid to judge what someone else does as a hobby. Just mind your business and do your own thing.
Again I'm just voicing my opinion, in line with the title of the board
Gossip and 'OPINION'
If we all had nothing to say about anything and just "minded our own business" then this board wouldn't be here.
Judging doesn't only
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i used to give you as much shit as anyone, but i can appreciate your advice more as i get older
trying to excel at something you were never meant for is a recipe for disaster. you first need to find what you excel at, then pursue it over time. i always wanted to excel physically, but it's not in the cards for me. i'm still learning to balance my expectations with my abilities.
Good man
Try to excel at whatever you enjoy doing but never ever to the detriment of your health
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Im not worried I'm just stating my opinion brother ...
Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but you are like a broken record. A contradictory broken record at that. Every post from you is either "I don't understand why people do this. Everyone should do things according to what I consider correct " or "I don't care what others do. I don't pay attention to what others do and you shouldn't either." Judging from your post history, you are consumed 24/7 with what others do.
You've been able to achieve a good physique and if you really are natural, that's great. However, in this very thread, you talked about the injuries you acquired over the last 15 years. If you had a job where you habitually acquired injuries performing the duties of your job, and those injuries actually affected how you were able to perform that job, you'd quit. Yet, you continue to work out for free, right? Where's the logic in that? ::) Is the ability to pick up a heavier iron bar really worth it?
The combination of smugness, contradiction and dogmatism in your posts can get pretty ridiculous.( This coming from a natural with a good physique who is pretty strong. )
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I'll tell you how I did it
15 yrs now of shut the fuck up and train. I invested a god legion of my like recreationally into lifting but I guess that's not the answer you want to hear though. People only see the final product not the injuries time etc put in 15 years. When you invest that much time into something if it falls within your genetic gift then you will excel
I don't look at a swimmer who can do 90 lengths and ask him what did you eat to do that. Lazy way of thinking because the assumption is it has to be anything but hard work and time invested... Ok I we Quaker oats you run go out and get some and you will press 175 dumbells too
you are back???? :D
2 jamaican meals a day a red bull and some oreos and ben hing 450lbs haha..I remember owning you 7 years ago. Youstill peddling the natural BS?
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you are back???? :D
2 jamaican meals a day a red bull and some oreos and ben hing 450lbs haha..I remember owning you 7 years ago. Youstill peddling the natural BS?
ahah he's back, bigger stronger and more natural than ever
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about as natural as the musclemania fellas lol
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Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but you are like a broken record. A contradictory broken record at that. Every post from you is either "I don't understand why people do this. Everyone should do things according to what I consider correct " or "I don't care what others do. I don't pay attention to what others do and you shouldn't either." Judging from your post history, you are consumed 24/7 with what others do.
You've been able to achieve a good physique and if you really are natural, that's great. However, in this very thread, you talked about the injuries you acquired over the last 15 years. If you had a job where you habitually acquired injuries performing the duties of your job, and those injuries actually affected how you were able to perform that job, you'd quit. Yet, you continue to work out for free, right? Where's the logic in that? ::) Is the ability to pick up a heavier iron bar really worth it?
The combination of smugness, contradiction and dogmatism in your posts can get pretty ridiculous.( This coming from a natural with a good physique who is pretty strong. )
Injuries come with the territory .... That is an entirely different matter than putting all manner of drugs in ones body. Also I have been fortunate enough to not have any serious injuries and when these accidents do occur I which Is A part of life I tailor my training to allow my body to heal. Injuries are a natural occurrence if doing anything repetitively over an extended period of time .. Eg barber , carpel tunnel , tennis player tennis play ... and so on.
There is nothing natural about putting drugs in your body, over time life threatening drugs ....
So the two are not remotely comparable.
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Yes that is the same article, he seemed like a cool guy.
In life it's always a good idea to weigh up the pros and cons before making decisions a lot of people abuse the power of choice. Now for a pro bodybuilder I can see the rationale slightly of taking drugs, in my personal opinion I don't think it is ever worth it no amount of money etc is worth a year of life. However that my perception a Heath or a Coleman might say yeah I'll do it it's worth it. One does wonder if they would or will have that stance in hindsight if they get the chance .. Because some don't a la Nasser munzer mike etc etc
What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
But at the end of the day everyone has to live their own life.
RIP MIKE matazzaro
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you are back???? :D
2 jamaican meals a day a red bull and some oreos and ben hing 450lbs haha..I remember owning you 7 years ago. Youstill peddling the natural BS?
You're over the age of 15 yrs old and using the term "owning" someone on a message board.
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Never benched 450 never tried
No one can "own" me...
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Injuries come with the territory .... That is an entirely different matter than putting all manner of drugs in ones body. Also I have been fortunate enough to not have any serious injuries and when these accidents do occur I which Is A part of life I tailor my training to allow my body to heal. Injuries are a natural occurrence if doing anything repetitively over an extended period of time .. Eg barber , carpel tunnel , tennis player tennis play ... and so on.
There is nothing natural about putting drugs in your body, over time life threatening drugs ....
So the two are not remotely comparable.
ever done recreational drugs or taken prescription meds?
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You're over the age of 15 yrs old and using the term "owning" someone on a message board.
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Never benched 450 never tried
No one can "own" me...
your emotional response is akin to you being "owned"
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ever done recreational drugs or taken prescription meds?
This thread is really about what the guy in the video is saying about drug use, not me but anyway.
I've never even being drunk in entire life
Never smoked a joint or a ciggerate
After visiting a energency/ hospital room ibrufen or nurafen pain killers.
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Injuries come with the territory .... That is an entirely different matter than putting all manner of drugs in ones body. Also I have been fortunate enough to not have any serious injuries and when these accidents do occur I which Is A part of life I tailor my training to allow my body to heal. Injuries are a natural occurrence if doing anything repetitively over an extended period of time .. Eg barber , carpel tunnel , tennis player tennis play ... and so on.
There is nothing natural about putting drugs in your body, over time life threatening drugs ....
So the two are not remotely comparable.
No, they are comparable. No one forces you to lift weights and there really is no other reason you do it besides ego. It's not for health. It would be healthier and safer to lift more moderately, but you've posted before that you laugh at people in the gym who lift moderately. That was the point of the previous post. I'm not pretending that steroids don't have side effects, but for a modest user they are hardly a death sentence.
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IFBB
International Federation of Big Bellies.
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Meso sometimes forgets that he is a genetic overlord - he is strangely incredible shape and very strong.
That doesn't diminish his achievements - I'm just saying you are, brother. You don't understand juicing because you have never needed to.
The desire to juice comes from a lot of negative things.. impatience, inadequacy etc, but it can also come from just not feeling like you're improving.
A guy you, Meso probably never felt that, never felt impatient - always was getting better at sufficient rate to satisfy. It's a no brainer for you to do it natural. You're getting enough ego from what you're doing as it is.
Again, that's not taking away from all the hard work. It's just really fucking easy to have a strong mind and resist temptation when you know that you've got the power in you, without it.
Some people just really don't and they know it. I personally know that I can bench a lot (I am currently 4 plates) - my training partner has pulled over 7 plate deadlift - so being natural isn't really much of a hindrance. Why would we bother? I don't think we're the norm, though.
Saying that, I'd love to bench 5 plates.
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This thread is really about what the guy in the video is saying about drug use, not me but anyway.
I've never even being drunk in entire life
Never smoked a joint or a ciggerate
After visiting a energency/ hospital room ibrufen or nurafen pain killers.
You sir have wasted your time here on this planet.
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(http://)Yes he talks smack but what he saying is spot on....
I didn't even realise mike died... One of my faves from flex days.
I remember reading an article he wrote after he started having heart problems in 2004 he just had a son too and he said he regrets ever touching steroids and that he probably wouldn't live another 15 years. He also said he wish he had kept on driving his removal truck and never got into competitive bodybuilding.
Really?
you look up to drug taking bodybuilders?
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Yes that is the same article, he seemed like a cool guy.
In life it's always a good idea to weigh up the pros and cons before making decisions a lot of people abuse the power of choice. Now for a pro bodybuilder I can see the rationale slightly of taking drugs, in my personal opinion I don't think it is ever worth it no amount of money etc is worth a year of life. However that my perception a Heath or a Coleman might say yeah I'll do it it's worth it. One does wonder if they would or will have that stance in hindsight if they get the chance .. Because some don't a la Nasser munzer mike etc etc
What I can never ever understand however is guys who take steroids or whatever and they don't even complete or have no chance of being competitive or just do it recreationally just to be buff... That's a hell of a risk. A very shallow way of thinking (and I use the term loosely)
But at the end of the day everyone has to live their own life.
RIP MIKE matazzaro
Hundreds of thousands of bodybuilders take drugs every year and a small percentage get health problems.
How do you know the drugs they were taking didnt help them live a bit longer?
They may have had conditions that the drugs kept at bay.
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You sir have wasted your time here on this planet.
;D I just don't see any point or benifit to it
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;D I just don't see any point or benifit to it
There doesnt have to be a point or benefit, its just about trying new things and living a full life.
By the way, do all the guys who train at Savs who take gear know you have this shitty opinion of them for using drugs?
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Really?
you look up to drug taking bodybuilders?
I don't condemn guys who take drugs, their are a few physiques I admire
The biggest appeal for me as a kid in regards to these guys is, at first I thought they were natural which is what the magazines said... Naive yes I was a kid, but the appeal for me has always been the strength and worth ethic which is why Coleman Cormier levrone Shawn Dorian and the old school Sergio Arnold etc were my favourite bodybuilders also.
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Hundreds of thousands of bodybuilders take drugs every year and a small percentage get health problems.
How do you know the drugs they were taking didnt help them live a bit longer?
They may have had conditions that the drugs kept at bay.
Done agree I believe the percentage of bodybuilder that fuck the self up is greater than we know.
Those guys like Nasser Munzer and Mike are the ones we know about. Their are thousands unknown who have messed the self up... The ones we know about essentially are the guys who can no longer hide the problems so they are forced to come out about it.
Many unknowns die or are seriously ill due to side effects
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I don't condemn guys who take drugs, their are a few physiques I admire
The biggest appeal for me as a kid in regards to these guys is, at first I thought they were natural which is what the magazines said... Naive yes I was a kid, but the appeal for me has always been the strength and worth ethic which is why Coleman Cormier levrone Shawn Dorian and the old school Sergio Arnold etc were my favourite bodybuilders also.
Seriously?
Cormier was a party animal and never took it as seriously as the other guys
Levrone only trained 4 months before the Olympia in his later years.
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Done agree I believe the percentage of bodybuilder that fuck the self up is greater than we know.
Those guys like Nasser Munzer and Mike are the ones we know about. Their are thousands unknown who have messed the self up... The ones we know about essentially are the guys who can no longer hide the problems so they are forced to come out about it.
Many unknowns die or are seriously ill due to side effects
who cares what you believe, facts are based on evidence.
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I don't have anything against guys who use at all.... I just think it isn't worth it that's all. Particularly if you're not a professional bodybuilder. Or have no hope of being one
It would be the same as taking drugs to be a recreational sprinter with a time of 15 seconds for the 100 metres
Plus this thread isn't about my opinion really it's about the guy in the video.
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Injuries come with the territory .... That is an entirely different matter than putting all manner of drugs in ones body. Also I have been fortunate enough to not have any serious injuries and when these accidents do occur I which Is A part of life I tailor my training to allow my body to heal. Injuries are a natural occurrence if doing anything repetitively over an extended period of time .. Eg barber , carpel tunnel , tennis player tennis play ... and so on.
There is nothing natural about putting drugs in your body, over time life threatening drugs ....
So the two are not remotely comparable.
Then don't. Who honestly, in the deepest recesses of their souls, gives a fuck what others do. They can die today or live on immortal. You see a billionaire throwing cash around, I see a short balding guy compensating. You see a steroid ape walking around with flaring lats and XXS t-shirt, I see a mentally ill person. In time you won't judge these people, you'll find their devotion to their illnesses and insecurities almost touching.
You see the guy minding his own business, doing his own thing and living his own life. That's who you should strive to be. Don't boast, don't lie, don't seek attention. And definitely don't give a shit what others do or don't.
You'll be happier for it.
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Plus this thread isn't about my opinion really
Yes it is.
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This thread is really about what the guy in the video is saying about drug use, not me but anyway.
I've never even being drunk in entire life
Never smoked a joint or a ciggerate
After visiting a energency/ hospital room ibrufen or nurafen pain killers.
Never been drunk?
Why the fuck not?? My friend, good fucking lord, go get a bottle of vodka NOW. A whole new world awaits!
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I don't have anything against guys who use at all.... I just think it isn't worth it that's all. Particularly if you're not a professional bodybuilder. Or have no hope of being one
It would be the same as taking drugs to be a recreational sprinter with a time of 15 seconds for the 100 metres
Plus this thread isn't about my opinion really it's about the guy in the video.
err...
No shade to people who make the choice to use drugs but this video is pretty much spot on.
I did t even know mike matarazzo died :-\
Russian roulette
That sir is your opinion.
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Never been drunk?
Why the fuck not?? My friend, good fucking lord, go get a bottle of vodka NOW. A whole new world awaits!
Hahahahah naw that's not for me
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err...
That sir is your opinion.
You missed the point , that is my stance but the thread isn't about meso, it's to see how many people agree with THAT guys opinion and what he says in the video
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Hahahahah naw that's not for me
How do you know, you have never tried it.
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You missed the point , that is my stance but the thread isn't about meso, it's to see how many people agree with THAT guys opinion and what he says in the video
It would appear that most dont give a fuck about his or your opinion TBH.
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Theres a world of difference between someone taking roids to look good for the ladies, or confidence say, than someone who takes roids to become a faster swimmer. One is cosmetic, the other isnt. Its hardly something to compare.
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Theres a world of difference between someone taking roids to look good for the ladies, or confidence say, than someone who takes roids to become a faster swimmer. One is cosmetic, the other isnt. Its hardly something to compare.
Some people justify taking gear to win a plastic trophy yet condemn people who take them to look good and get hot women?
Seriously?
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Hahahahah naw that's not for me
Coach said exactly the same thing until he tried black cock. Now look at him!
Nothing bad will happen. You'll feel a slight buzz and wake up feeling a bit rough. The trade off is worth it.
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Then don't. Who honestly, in the deepest recesses of their souls, gives a fuck what others do. They can die today or live on immortal. You see a billionaire throwing cash around, I see a short balding guy compensating. You see a steroid ape walking around with flaring lats and XXS t-shirt, I see a mentally ill person. In time you won't judge these people, you'll find their devotion to their illnesses and insecurities almost touching.
You see the guy minding his own business, doing his own thing and living his own life. That's who you should strive to be. Don't boast, don't lie, don't seek attention. And definitely don't give a shit what others do or don't.
You'll be happier for it.
We are human we have opinions about things hence why you are on a gossip and opinion board
Am I anal about guys who juice .. No I talk to them I've trained with them ...
It's just a pander if you will. At the end of the day we are all responsible and accountable for our own actions . It's a gossip and opinion board. Think of it as a debate
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Coach said exactly the same thing until he tried black cock. Now look at him!
Nothing bad will happen. You'll feel a slight buzz and wake up feeling a bit rough. The trade off is worth it.
;D ;D ;D
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We are human we have opinions about things hence why you are on a gossip and opinion board
Am I anal about guys who juice .. No I talk to them I've trained with them ...
It's just a pander if you will. At the end of the day we are all responsible and accountable for our own actions . It's a gossip and opinion board. Think of it as a debate
What is the debate? That different people do different things? ??? If you don't want to use drugs, then don't . There are people who don't and people who do. I can't believe - I refuse to believe- that that concept confuses you.
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here's what it is he cannot simply post about his lifts
it has to be a drink, smoke, drug free, inspirational story for the kids - say your prayers and eat your vitamins
meso is basically like hulk hogan
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here's what it is he cannot simply post about his lifts
it has to be a drink, smoke, drug free, inspirational story for the kids - say your prayers and eat your vitamins
meso is basically like hulk hogan
Yeah, I know. It's really just his way of humble-bragging. It's been the same thing for years.
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Alcohol only became if the conversation because the conversation progressed to that point... I don't know what their is to brag about in regards to not drinking I just made a statement .... Have you even watched the video?? Because that's what the thread is about an opinion on what the guy is saying...
What you assume about me here doesn't really matter..this is about the video and what's being said.... On the video
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Yeah, I know. It's really just his way of humble-bragging. It's been the same thing for years.
pretty much a home grown philospher king
and he's returned from the mountaintop with 175lb dumbells in tow
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_mf308.jpg)
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Alcohol only became if the conversation because the conversation progressed to that point... I don't know what their is to brag about in regards to not drinking I just made a statement .... Have you even watched the video?? Because that's what the thread is about an opinion on what the guy is saying...
What you assume about me here doesn't really matter..this is about the video and what's being said.... On the video
I'm not assuming anything about you. I don't have to. You have made yourself perfectly transparent over years of posts.
When I said you were humble-bragging, I wasn't referring to you drinking. The thread wasn't about getting opinions on the video, it was just your latest attempt to get on your high horse and pat yourself on the back.
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I don't have anything against guys who use at all.... I just think it isn't worth it that's all. Particularly if you're not a professional bodybuilder. Or have no hope of being one
It would be the same as taking drugs to be a recreational sprinter with a time of 15 seconds for the 100 metres
Plus this thread isn't about my opinion really it's about the guy in the video.
Alcohol only became if the conversation because the conversation progressed to that point... I don't know what their is to brag about in regards to not drinking I just made a statement .... Have you even watched the video?? Because that's what the thread is about an opinion on what the guy is saying...
What you assume about me here doesn't really matter..this is about the video and what's being said.... On the video
;D
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E there and meso are alike.. both do not diet and use dismal doses ;D
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E there and meso are alike.. both do not diet and use dismal doses ;D
I eat well and use adequate dosages.
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All Bami an Chicken Foot Soup ;D
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lol at "bami" ;D
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I just love to see dirtiestnatural cry about mesomorph's epicness because dirtiestnatural's natural test levels are probably at the regular minimum unless he juices, as he juices now, he has average genetics like most whites do. That's his megalomania speaking.
I have no reason to believe that you, mesomorph are a juicer because you have all the qualities of a typical home grown african naggar ;D. And I guarantee your test levels by western standards are already at the level of a small caucasian juicer. You're god gifted and that's just how that shit go.
"We need to work with the tools god gave us" - some fitness babe
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Lol, devilsmile with the best posts, as usual
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Lol, devilsmile with the best posts, as usual
it was all true what I said. The biggest agnostic judge would have approved my post, supreme truth, soul reviving super shit!