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Puts him at 23 on the year and 677 career.
This is getting interesting now, if he keeps up the good year he is having he'll be in spitting distance of 700 HR at the end of this season. 39 years old. Bonds record is 762.
BB-related, ex-wife has nice abs.
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:o ruth is still the greatest hr hitter of all time.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Puts him at 23 on the year and 677 career.
This is getting interesting now, if he keeps up the good year he is having he'll be in spitting distance of 700 HR at the end of this season. 39 years old. Bonds record is 762.
BB-related, ex-wife has nice abs.
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He's like 4-5 behind Trout I think for the season.
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he got a more discreet Gh doc this year lol.
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He's like 4-5 behind Trout I think for the season.
I thought he had no shot at the career record but now I'm not so sure.
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For as much as his past haunts him, the guy is still very productive and an amazing player.
Even without steroids, he is a beast.
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It's obvious he found a way to get his numbers into MLB's "normal" range when tested. The guy is hitting HR's 450 feet and with ease. My guess is he is nailed early next year with a positive test...
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It's obvious he found a way to get his numbers into MLB's "normal" range when tested. The guy is hitting HR's 450 feet and with ease. My guess is he is nailed early next year with a positive test...
Great athlete nonetheless.
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He's like 4-5 behind Trout I think for the season.
pujols and trout have 29 a piece...
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It's obvious he found a way to get his numbers into MLB's "normal" range when tested. The guy is hitting HR's 450 feet and with ease. My guess is he is nailed early next year with a positive test...
He's saying/doing everything right now, so who knows.
I know these guys are multi-millionaires and wired around how much money they get. But he did forego 6M in incentive bonuses and settled on the Yankees paying 3.5M to charity. He's doing everything to finish his career on good terms.
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One of the greatest all time. Period - no jealous ass asterisk by his name in my book.
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:o ruth is still the greatest hr hitter of all time.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Babe IS the greatest home run hitter of all time.
He did it in 1,000 less at bats compared to the other guys.
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Babe IS the greatest home run hitter of all time.
He did it in 1,000 less at bats compared to the other guys.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Babe IS the greatest home run hitter of all time.
He did it in 1,000 less at bats compared to the other guys.
Also dieted on hotdogs cigs and whore-pussy to prepare for the season.
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Fuck him and that piece of shit Barry Bonds. Their steroid numbers mean jack shit, and they are assholes on top of it.
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I wonder how the Mr O line-up would fare batting against MLB pitching? ;D
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Also dieted on hotdogs cigs and whore-pussy to prepare for the season.
That 1921 year was INSANE.
204 hits, 44 doubles, 16 triples, 59 home runs, 170 RBI and a .378 average. :o
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That 1921 year was INSANE.
204 hits, 44 doubles, 16 triples, 59 home runs, 170 RBI and a .378 average. :o
And 177 runs
Bonds was never close to that number
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23 year old freak..
http://m.angels.mlb.com/news/2015/07/26/138828690/mike-trout-and-angels-blow-out-rangers
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And 177 runs
Bonds was never close to that number
True but I think it's hard to hold that against Bonds. Beyond a certain number indicating you get on base a lot, runs require other good hitters behind you in the lineup unless you're hitting 177 HRs.
Who was the 2nd-best hitter Bonds ever played with?
Will Clark?
Jeff Kent?
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23 year old freak..
http://m.angels.mlb.com/news/2015/07/26/138828690/mike-trout-and-angels-blow-out-rangers
I threw the remote in disgust after Trout hit that grand slam. >:(
Woke up this morning stoked at the possibility of the Rangers sweeping the Angels.
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I didn't know Trout was only 23, damn.
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23 year old freak..
http://m.angels.mlb.com/news/2015/07/26/138828690/mike-trout-and-angels-blow-out-rangers
You and obama have another thing in common... name-dropping mike trout.
http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/fancave/blog/article.jsp?content=article&content_id=67551360
;D
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It's obvious he found a way to get his numbers into MLB's "normal" range when tested. The guy is hitting HR's 450 feet and with ease. My guess is he is nailed early next year with a positive test...
Either you're a home run of you're not. Drugs make little difference. Regardless, the sport is being ruined by testing.
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Either you're a home run of you're not. Drugs make little difference. Regardless, the sport is being ruined by testing.
I think that Canseco's, Giambi's, Sosa's, McGwire's, Bonds', Palmeiro's numbers seem to contradict your statement
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Fuck him and that piece of shit Barry Bonds. Their steroid numbers mean jack shit, and they are assholes on top of it.
They may be assholes but if you really think juice did it then you know nothing of baseball... There is NO argument that greenies were not a MUCH greater performance enhancer.. But if we made an issue then almost 100% of the greats would have an asterisk
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Anyone who thinks the majority (I would say the great majority) of athletes at the MLB/NBA/NFL/NHL level are not on a PED that is banned by their league is kidding themselves.
Just sit back and enjoy the show, watching people hit 70 HRs is fun.
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Either you're a home run of you're not. Drugs make little difference. Regardless, the sport is being ruined by testing.
hmm Hank Aaron, Mike Schmidt, Ted Williams etc. never hit 50 home runs in a season, but Brady Anderson did
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A-Fraud found another lab, that simple. Anyone who believes he is blasting like this in the twilight of his career, way past his prime (when he was using PEDS) is beyond stupid.
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A-Fraud found another lab, that simple. Anyone who believes he is blasting like this in the twilight of his career, way past his prime (when he was using PEDS) is beyond stupid.
MLB's gotta be testing him fairly regularly. (FWIW)
But this has to go down as one of the greatest comeback years ever!
Dude's last good year playing everyday was in 2010.
Had hip sugery.
Got only 150 ABs in 2013.
Missed all of 2014 season.
And now as he turns age 40, Arod's rockin' an OPS of over .900!
Ridiculous.
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Bonds hit 59 HR from the ages of 40-42, which included one year where he basically missed the whole season with an injury of some sort (I forget the details).
ARod is 39 now. I think he can break this record if he stays healthy and keeps passing tests.
Even at age 42 (his last year) Bonds still hit 28 HR in 126 games, 1.045 OPS and led the league with a .480 on-base percentage. Guy was crazy-good, I don't care what drugs he was on. The level of fear pitchers had of him was unprecedented, although I obviously never saw Ruth play or anything. In 2004 Bonds was intentionally walked 122 times, which is only five fewer times than the total walks (intentional + unintentional) of any other player in the league that year.
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Bonds hit 59 HR from the ages of 40-42, which included one year where he basically missed the whole season with an injury of some sort (I forget the details).
ARod is 39 now. I think he can break this record if he stays healthy and keeps passing tests.
Even at age 42 (his last year) Bonds still hit 28 HR in 126 games, 1.045 OPS and led the league with a .480 on-base percentage. Guy was crazy-good, I don't care what drugs he was on.
Different eras ... then and now.
Bonds was basically openly juicing in his 40s (wasn't suspicious when sluggers looked big.)
And MLB didn't start effectively testing players until 2013.
in 2013, there were 4,661 home runs hit in MLB
in 2014, ... 4,186 homers
between the years 1998-2007 (when Bonds retired) there were about 5,500 home runs hit each year in MLB
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All I know is this....MLB bans Pete Rose when more people than him were bettors - and he was just plain being dumb....
....and they will keep Sosa and McGwire out of the HOF even though they literally saved Baseball.
They should just say "that was a different era....that was an untested era" and asterisk them or whatever.
But they all belong in the HOF.
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If I'm A-Rod I'm playing until I'm 45.
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Mike Trout is the best player on the planet.
Also, get over the steroid era. It's MLB's fault for either ignoring it or having their heads up their asses. Just have to deal with it at this point, but realize the players of yesteryear would've done the same thing.
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Everyone pretends like steroids first appeared to bespoil this sacred game in 1998.
Meanwhile Ben Johnson in a much more obscure sport was juiced to the gills for years a decade earlier.
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To anyone that says steroids don't make that big of a difference in baseball.....
Barry Bonds hit 73 fucking home runs in one season. You tell me.
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Either you're a home run of you're not. Drugs make little difference. Regardless, the sport is being ruined by testing.
LOL! Drugs are the difference between an out and a HR in many cases.
Plus in this new era of no test, no stimulants... the players look like regular people out there. They used to be jacked and elevated. That long season is making them look very average now.
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A-Fraud found another lab, that simple. Anyone who believes he is blasting like this in the twilight of his career, way past his prime (when he was using PEDS) is beyond stupid.
the people that believe he's natural... they just want a hero. They just want to believe hard work can defeat age and outperform the steroid version of the same player ten years earlier lol.
The same people believed Bill Cosby and Hermann Cain were *framed* by all those women accusers. They just want a hero.
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Anyone who thinks the majority (I would say the great majority) of athletes at the MLB/NBA/NFL/NHL level are not on a PED that is banned by their league is kidding themselves.
Just sit back and enjoy the show, watching people hit 70 HRs is fun.
Exactly.
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Everyone pretends like steroids first appeared to bespoil this sacred game in 1998.
Meanwhile Ben Johnson in a much more obscure sport was juiced to the gills for years a decade earlier.
I think that Canseco was one of the 1st guys to take roids. Lates 80's.
Then Lenny Dykstra.
I bet that Kevin Mitchell & Bo Jackson were on in the late 80's too.
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I think that Canseco was one of the 1st guys to take roids. Lates 80's.
Then Lenny Dykstra.
I bet that Kevin Mitchell & Bo Jackson were on in the late 80's too.
it's funny that forever ballplayers were afraid of being muscle bound thinking it would hurt them ... the first two guys (who I remember) who were the exceptions and simply followed weight lifting programs were Brian Downing & Lance Parrish in the early 80s ... but then, yeah, Canseco and the boys ushered in a new era ... (notwithstanding that players in the past were taking greenies like crazy.)
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the people that believe he's natural... they just want a hero. They just want to believe hard work can defeat age and outperform the steroid version of the same player ten years earlier lol.
The same people believed Bill Cosby and Hermann Cain were *framed* by all those women accusers. They just want a hero.
Off-base analogy, but kinda funny. ;D
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Why are people shocked? ARod was a prodigy from a young age. If he stayed natural he would have easily been a 40 HR 120 RBI type guy. but with 50+ HRs being hit by the juicers he jumped on it. he didn't have to. Would have been hailed as one of the best of all time.
I have to laugh at how Schmoltz was put in the HoF yesterday. His career was over as a starter and a pitcher in general then a miracle allowed him to be a dominant closer for 4 years during the "juice era" Where the other top closer Gagne was caught taking steroids. Same with Pedro Martinez and Biggio. Biggio and Bagwell were both heavy on the sauce. Baseball is such a joke.
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it's funny that forever ballplayers were afraid of being muscle bound thinking it would hurt them ... the first two guys (who I remember) who were the exceptions and simply followed weight lifting programs were Brian Downing & Lance Parrish in the early 80s ... but then, yeah, Canseco and the boys ushered in a new era ... (notwithstanding that players in the past were taking greenies like crazy.)
The biggest battle I have is with High School coaches that limit or just don't allow weight training with their athletes. They still believe that weight training will make them "bulky" and restrict mobility which is far from true. Instead with the limited weight training they do it's all high rep with a ton on long distance running which both are counterproductive to baseball. Like a lot of Universities, we train our baseball players similar to how we would train football with the exception over head work and full body training 3 x week.
Personally, besides the recovery factor one the main reasons players are using is for power and strength (they are not the same) and that directly lies with the S&C coaches not programming enough power into their training. I'm referring to professional players. At the college level, particularly at the D1 level, training is vastly superior than it is at the pro level.
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LOL! Drugs are the difference between an out and a HR in many cases.
Plus in this new era of no test, no stimulants... the players look like regular people out there. They used to be jacked and elevated. That long season is making them look very average now.
Drugs are the difference between hitting a 420ft HR as opposed to a 450ft HR.
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The biggest battle I have is with High School coaches that limit or just don't allow weight training with their athletes. They still believe that weight training will make them "bulky" and restrict mobility which is far from true. Instead with the limited weight training they do it's all high rep with a ton on long distance running which both are counterproductive to baseball. Like a lot of Universities, we train our baseball players similar to how we would train football with the exception over head work and full body training 3 x week.
Personally, besides the recovery factor one the main reasons players are using is for power and strength (they are not the same) and that directly lies with the S&C coaches not programming enough power into their training. I'm referring to professional players. At the college level, particularly at the D1 level, training is vastly superior than it is at the pro level.
My high school cross-country coach used to make us lift weights 2x per week, this was around 1996 or so. I had one of the strongest benches on the team at 135 for 8 :D
Drugs are the difference between hitting a 420ft HR as opposed to a 450ft HR.
Sure but what about a 350-foot flyout as opposed to a 380-foot HR?
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Drugs are the difference between hitting a 420ft HR as opposed to a 450ft HR.
30'!? Maybe, even more. There was the occasional check swing that cleared the fence.
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30'!? Maybe, even more. There was the occasional check swing that cleared the fence.
Or the classic RBI Baseball "bunt homerun" glitch!!
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Babe IS the greatest home run hitter of all time.
He did it in 1,000 less at bats compared to the other guys.
From Baseball-Fever >
fenrir
06-19-2012, 08:42 PM
Statistically, Babe Ruth is easily the greatest player ever. Nobody really comes close (except arguably Bonds, if you take his numbers at face value). Ruth apparently hit home runs further than anybody ever (including many steroid abusers), and hit home runs at a faster pace than anyone ever (besides steroid user Mark Mcgwire). I've always found it interesting how Ruth was able to do things nobody else ever was able to do, with the exception of one or arguably two steroid users. The man has a .690 career slugging% for pete sakes, how many all-time greats were able to even post a .690 slugging% in a single season (not including roiders)? Hell, if Bonds never juiced, Ruth would still hold the single season record for walks, slugging%, OPS, OPS+, HR/AB ratio, pretty much every single season record out there.
So my question is, did Ruth just happen to be vastly more talented than anyone else who ever play baseball, or was he a great player who dominated arguably inferior competition? Perhaps both? Albert Pujols is widely considered the best hitter of his generation (not including Bonds and Frank Thomas who are more from the 1990's generation), and yet his single season best OPS+ falls well short to Ruth's career OPS+. Was Ruth just that much more talented than the man who is considered the best hitter from his generation? Perhaps he was, but I'm not sold on that.
http://www.sciencebuzz.org/blog/technology-not-drugs-made-home-run-records
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From Baseball-Fever >
fenrir
06-19-2012, 08:42 PM
Statistically, Babe Ruth is easily the greatest player ever. Nobody really comes close (except arguably Bonds, if you take his numbers at face value). Ruth apparently hit home runs further than anybody ever (including many steroid abusers), and hit home runs at a faster pace than anyone ever (besides steroid user Mark Mcgwire). I've always found it interesting how Ruth was able to do things nobody else ever was able to do, with the exception of one or arguably two steroid users. The man has a .690 career slugging% for pete sakes, how many all-time greats were able to even post a .690 slugging% in a single season (not including roiders)? Hell, if Bonds never juiced, Ruth would still hold the single season record for walks, slugging%, OPS, OPS+, HR/AB ratio, pretty much every single season record out there.
So my question is, did Ruth just happen to be vastly more talented than anyone else who ever play baseball, or was he a great player who dominated arguably inferior competition? Perhaps both? Albert Pujols is widely considered the best hitter of his generation (not including Bonds and Frank Thomas who are more from the 1990's generation), and yet his single season best OPS+ falls well short to Ruth's career OPS+. Was Ruth just that much more talented than the man who is considered the best hitter from his generation? Perhaps he was, but I'm not sold on that.
http://www.sciencebuzz.org/blog/technology-not-drugs-made-home-run-records
This Babe thing is complete bullshit since they only allowed whites to play. There were some blacks in the negro leagues who would have hit more HR than Ruth but were never allowed to.
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The best black hitter ever was Josh Gibson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Gibson
https://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00016050.html
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30'!? Maybe, even more. There was the occasional check swing that cleared the fence.
True
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Hey guys,
I am not really a baseball fan, but I thought maybe you guys can help me with this...
Is it possible that, at the time, most of the major teams were essentially feeding Ruth easy pitches in order to inflate his home run record?
For instance, remember when Sammy Sosa and Mark Mcgwire were going at it for most home runs during the season and you started to notice pitchers throw slow pitches right down the middle, just because they knew it was the reason people were coming to the game (with the goal of having one of them break the all-time record)?
Could it be that during the time of Ruth, they were simply feeding the man, because they knew that most of the audience in attendance were there to see the guy hit home runs and that if they didn't feed him, the ticket sales would plummet?
Again, never been a baseball fan and I know very little about these things, so if I am way off, feel free to tell me so.
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This Babe thing is complete bullshit since they only allowed whites to play. There were some blacks in the negro leagues who would have hit more HR than Ruth but were never allowed to.
Look at any Top Pitchers of All-Time list and aside from the occasional token Hebrew it is by and large occupied by men of the Anglo-Saxon heritage.
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Hey guys,
I am not really a baseball fan, but I thought maybe you guys can help me with this...
Is it possible that, at the time, most of the major teams were essentially feeding Ruth easy pitches in order to inflate his home run record?
For instance, remember when Sammy Sosa and Mark Mcgwire were going at it for most home runs during the season and you started to notice pitchers throw slow pitches right down the middle, just because they knew it was the reason people were coming to the game (with the goal of having one of them break the all-time record)?
Could it be that during the time of Ruth, they were simply feeding the man, because they knew that most of the audience in attendance were there to see the guy hit home runs and that if they didn't feed him, the ticket sales would plummet?
Again, never been a baseball fan and I know very little about these things, so if I am way off, feel free to tell me so.
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It could have been the pitcher was tired from his day at work. Baseball back then paid next to nothing. Most of the players had day jobs. You know most of the day jobs that athletes would do are hard labor since most probably didn't have a good execution. Imagine working construction all day to then pitch a baseball game.
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Drugs are the difference between hitting a 420ft HR as opposed to a 450ft HR.
are you really telling getbig that steroids don't help MLB players hit more home runs? Really? lol
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Hey guys,
I am not really a baseball fan, but I thought maybe you guys can help me with this...
Is it possible that, at the time, most of the major teams were essentially feeding Ruth easy pitches in order to inflate his home run record?
For instance, remember when Sammy Sosa and Mark Mcgwire were going at it for most home runs during the season and you started to notice pitchers throw slow pitches right down the middle, just because they knew it was the reason people were coming to the game (with the goal of having one of them break the all-time record)?
Could it be that during the time of Ruth, they were simply feeding the man, because they knew that most of the audience in attendance were there to see the guy hit home runs and that if they didn't feed him, the ticket sales would plummet?
Again, never been a baseball fan and I know very little about these things, so if I am way off, feel free to tell me so.
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back in the day (Babe Ruth's time) it seemed (from what i've read) that players on opposing teams were fierce competitors (sharpening their spikes etc. ... unless it's a myth) ... whereas nowadays everybody's all chummy with opponents during batting practice before the game and when they get on base during the game etc.
but it wouldn't surprise me if the Babe got a few meatballs thrown to him since even Mickey Mantle was told by the Tigers catcher what pitch was coming right before one of his milestone home runs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/sports/baseball/09mclain.html
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are you really telling getbig that steroids don't help MLB players hit more home runs? Really? lol
Exactly
If steroids didn't help these players; they would not have been using it year after year.... and recommending it to their teammates
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Drugs are the difference between hitting a 420ft HR as opposed to a 450ft HR.
The same 30 feet difference could be a 380 pop out, versus a 410 foot home run.
LOL at you never entertaining this possibility.
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The same 30 feet difference could be a 380 pop out, versus a 410 foot home run.
LOL at you never entertaining this possibility.
You play a guitar or something, right?
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Look at any Top Pitchers of All-Time list and aside from the occasional token Hebrew it is by and large occupied by men of the Anglo-Saxon heritage.
Ever hear of Satchel Paige? Pitched MLB into his freakin' 60's.
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Ever hear of Satchel Paige? Pitched MLB into his freakin' 60's.
Look at any Top Pitchers of All-Time list and aside from the occasional token Hebrew it is by and large occupied by men of the Anglo-Saxon heritage.
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back in the day (Babe Ruth's time) it seemed (from what i've read) that players on opposing teams were fierce competitors (sharpening their spikes etc. ... unless it's a myth) ... whereas nowadays everybody's all chummy with opponents during batting practice before the game and when they get on base during the game etc.
but it wouldn't surprise me if the Babe got a few meatballs thrown to him since even Mickey Mantle was told by the Tigers catcher what pitch was coming right before one of his milestone home runs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/sports/baseball/09mclain.html
You want an exanple of "fierce" check out Ty Cobb's antics. That sob would show what it means to "go after" a player. Jeez!
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?158954-Ty-Cobb-Makes-Barry-Bonds-Look-Like-Strawberry-Shortcake
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satchel_Paige
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You want an exanple of "fierce" check out Ty Cobb's antics. That sob would show what it means to "go after" a player. Jeez!
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?158954-Ty-Cobb-Makes-Barry-Bonds-Look-Like-Strawberry-Shortcake
Cobb once jumped into the stands to beat up a dirty cripple who was heckling him, guy didn't fuck around.
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He shot one dude just for knocking on his door & waking him up. The dude didn't die but was almost did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Cobb
He hated Ruth's fame. When kids would ask wuld ask "do you drink milk?" he'd reply "Fuck no, I drink whiskey" & pull a bottle and take a big swig.
He died a multi-millionaire establishing a free total health care system.
http://www.tycobbhealthcare.com/
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Cobb once jumped into the stands to beat up a dirty cripple who was heckling him, guy didn't fuck around.
would love to have been the cripple who heckled ty cobb.
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Ever hear of Satchel Paige? Pitched MLB into his freakin' 60's.
Back off, gimmick. This is sports. :)
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Cobb once jumped into the stands to beat up a dirty cripple who was heckling him, guy didn't fuck around.
Like A Boss.
(http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ty-cobb-sliding.jpg)
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He shot one dude just for knocking on his door & waking him up. The dude didn't die but was almosr did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Cobb
He hated Ruth's fame. When kids would ask wuld ask "do you drink milk?" he'd reply "Fuck no, I drink whiskey" & pull a bottle and take a big swig.
lol
(Arod hit a bomb today on his 40th b-day.)
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would love to have been the cripple who heckled ty cobb.