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Another one. I keep wondering when blacks will unify & begin anarchy?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/us/university-of-cincinnati-officer-indicted-in-shooting-death-of-motorist.html
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Withholding comment till I see what True Adonis has to say.
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It's bad, but they're charging high again. They don't want Cinci to burn.
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The victim was a father of 10?
That officer appears to have been worthy of indictment.
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Inlined version of video for the non-clickers -
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Rev limiter doing work on that Honda.
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Is it really even a race issue? Serious question? What if it was cops having a power trip? Ones that don't deserve a badge
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I heard he was dead before the cop stopped him... saw some pics on another website..
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I heard he was dead before the cop stopped him... saw some pics on another website..
Driving drunk, escaping from police by driving over him...who cares? If drunk bastard start to run amok, they have all the rights to shoot him down.
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blew his face off.
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That escalated quickly. I didn't see the guy in the car present anything threatening on the video. What's the cop's story?
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That escalated quickly. I didn't see the guy in the car present anything threatening on the video. What's the cop's story?
Hes a cop.......enough said.
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Just based on the video and the news article.. and the video was blurry right at the point of the shot..
1. Stop was legal. Prosecutor saying otherwise as in "it was a crappy stop" indicates bias.. likely politically motivated. Way out of line for a prosecutor to comment on a legal stop in that regard
2. Guy was acting evasive. You can't just run his license to see he has one without some other identifying information. He could give anyones name and DOB that has similar physical features. Happens all the time.
3. He can't just write a ticket without proper identification.
4. The guy was reaching all around in the car.. having him step out was a good move. frisk for weapons, get him out of the vehicle where their may be some weapons.
5. dude shouldn't close the door when the police is telling him to step out. Red flag.
6. Starting the car.. not a good move. Obviously about the take off.
7. Officer should have disengaged, when his efforts to disuade him from driving off were not successful. Call in the direction of travel and conduct the pursuit.
8. I've seen calls where an officer was being dragged and shooting was reasonable. I don't think this was one of those. He had a minor traffic offense and evading
9. I didn't see anything that would deem deadly force reasonable. Maybe something will come to light during trial, but it wasnt evident in the video.
10. Prosecutor again showed unreasonable and improper bias commenting on the policing of universities. Most major universities through out the country have their own force and do well. Politics.. it's irrelvant to the facts of this case.
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haha, most lawyers totally suck.
DuBose did not appear to be belligerent or aggressive toward the officer before the shot was fired, though his lawyer, Stew Mathews, said Tensing feared he would be run over.
Run over? He was standing on the side of the car the whole time, not in front of it. The guy would literally have to back up the car, put it back in drive, then aim for him. By the time, it would have been over, and rightfully so, if he was trying to run the cop over.
Fuckin' lawyers. Total wastes.
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even the police are throwing him under the bus. When they're that vocal, you know his ass is toast. Not sure how a man trying to open a door can run over a person standing beside the car?
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What continues to get lost in the shuffle is how every single one of these black lives is lost because their fragile egos won't allow them to follow a simple instruction from a police officer with a badge and a gun. They're all versions of suicide by cop. I know blacks who've been pulled over dozens of times without incident by handing over their license and cooperating. But this is 2015 and it's blasphemy to tell the truth and use facts.
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What continues to get lost in the shuffle is how every single one of these black lives is lost because their fragile egos won't allow them to follow a simple instruction from a police officer with a badge and a gun. They're all versions of suicide by cop. I know blacks who've been pulled over dozens of times without incident by handing over their license and cooperating. But this is 2015 and it's blasphemy to tell the truth and use facts.
Blasphemy. Dats racism!!!
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This father of 10 ???, was a documented member of the Bloods, dressed to teeth in gang colors and attempting to at the very least flee the scene or if you believe the police officer use the car as a weapon to cripple him by dragging him down the street (no one ever implied him "backing up and running over the officer)
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The victim was a father of 10?
That officer appears to have been worthy of indictment.
Just because he fathered 10 children doesnt mean he was a father of 10.
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Disappointed Tensing didn't get more shots off.
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What continues to get lost in the shuffle is how every single one of these black lives is lost because their fragile egos won't allow them to follow a simple instruction from a police officer with a badge and a gun. They're all versions of suicide by cop. I know blacks who've been pulled over dozens of times without incident by handing over their license and cooperating. But this is 2015 and it's blasphemy to tell the truth and use facts.
Not just blacks. Had a white teen one town over from me get shot and killed by a police officer because he failed to comply. It's everywhere, man. And all races. Law enforcement is seriously getting out of hand.
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even the police are throwing him under the bus. When they're that vocal, you know his ass is toast. Not sure how a man trying to open a door can run over a person standing beside the car?
unless the guy grabbed the cops arm to hold him while he took off, (and we don't know that he did based on the video) which would be a reason I would shoot someone, he couldn't run him over. That reasoning wouldn't fly.
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what we have here are officers who should be no where near Law enforcement.
Jumpy, low impulse control, fearful, aggressive, narcisistic etc...
This is the problem. I have no respect for police officers. Yes there are a few good ones, but in general they are just average people thrust into a position that should be reserved for the elite of our population.
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what we have here are officers who should be no where near Law enforcement.
Jumpy, low impulse control, fearful, aggressive, narcisistic etc...
This is the problem. I have no respect for police officers. Yes there are a few good ones, but in general they are just average people thrust into a position that should be reserved for the elite of our population.
Agree..
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Not just blacks. Had a white teen one town over from me get shot and killed by a police officer because he failed to comply. It's everywhere, man. And all races. Law enforcement is seriously getting out of hand.
Yeah but nobody will riot over that..the media won't even cover it
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Just based on the video and the news article.. and the video was blurry right at the point of the shot..
1. Stop was legal. Prosecutor saying otherwise as in "it was a crappy stop" indicates bias.. likely politically motivated. Way out of line for a prosecutor to comment on a legal stop in that regard
2. Guy was acting evasive. You can't just run his license to see he has one without some other identifying information. He could give anyones name and DOB that has similar physical features. Happens all the time.
3. He can't just write a ticket without proper identification.
4. The guy was reaching all around in the car.. having him step out was a good move. frisk for weapons, get him out of the vehicle where their may be some weapons.
5. dude shouldn't close the door when the police is telling him to step out. Red flag.
6. Starting the car.. not a good move. Obviously about the take off.
7. Officer should have disengaged, when his efforts to disuade him from driving off were not successful. Call in the direction of travel and conduct the pursuit.
8. I've seen calls where an officer was being dragged and shooting was reasonable. I don't think this was one of those. He had a minor traffic offense and evading
9. I didn't see anything that would deem deadly force reasonable. Maybe something will come to light during trial, but it wasnt evident in the video.
10. Prosecutor again showed unreasonable and improper bias commenting on the policing of universities. Most major universities through out the country have their own force and do well. Politics.. it's irrelvant to the facts of this case.
So, you either didn't watch the video, or didn't understand what you saw? Police try to grab hold of this moron, and he drive a way police hanging at the car. That would be attempted murder in any country you can name of, and it gives police all the rights to use deadly force to stop the suspect. It has been said over and over again, and still there is people who doesn't understand: Don't fight the cop, cop will kill you.
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another scared piglet quick to play jury , judge and executioner
but it could of all been avoided by this dumb fuck by simply saying i dont have my license and taking the fine
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on the one hand that was a bad shooting
on the other hand, he would never have done that to a contributing member of society so I'll have to file under 'don't give a fuck'
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on the one hand that was a bad shooting
on the other hand, he would never have done that to a contributing member of society so I'll have to file under 'don't give a fuck'
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Yeah but nobody will riot over that..the media won't even cover it
I understand where your comin from ... however ... my point is, is that law enforcement is getting out of hand here in America. Everywhere ... and all races. If and when the shit hits the fan ( martial law, for example ), it won't matter your politics, race, sex, or anything else. What it will boil down to are two things :
1 ) You support law enforcement and how they " uphold " the law
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2 ) You do not support our law enforcement and feel they are abusing their power.
That's it. It's either one or the other. Media be damned. I don't need to watch the news nor read the paper to see what's happening around me. Simple as that. All's the media is good at is showing us ( or, for some of us, trying to convince us ) that is purely a " race issue ", when in fact it's much bigger than that.
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Is it really even a race issue? Serious question? What if it was cops having a power trip? Ones that don't deserve a badge
95% of the time these "power trips" seem to occur when the motorist is black
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I heard he was dead before the cop stopped him... saw some pics on another website..
Good one :D
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What continues to get lost in the shuffle is how every single one of these black lives is lost because their fragile egos won't allow them to follow a simple instruction from a police officer with a badge and a gun. They're all versions of suicide by cop. I know blacks who've been pulled over dozens of times without incident by handing over their license and cooperating. But this is 2015 and it's blasphemy to tell the truth and use facts.
Although your tone is idiotic, your post has substance....Too many times people are mouthing off and not making the officer feel safe.....the officer was still wrong, but now a guy is dead for babbling and running his mouth when he didn't have to be
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Disappointed Tensing didn't get more shots off.
Black guys are always getting shots off inside your mother
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Black guys are always getting shots off inside your mother
You should've been strangled at birth after the coathanger apparently failed :-*
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Another one. I keep wondering when blacks will unify & begin anarchy?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/us/university-of-cincinnati-officer-indicted-in-shooting-death-of-motorist.html
I feel that a quasi-Leninist explanation of class relations has much explanatory power when it comes to the lot of the American Hebrew: capitalism entails a sort of bribery between classes, the lower classes being in a sense 'payed off' to not revolt or otherwise cause trouble for an inherently unjust system. Is this not the case for the A-Heb? Traditionally excluded or otherwise marginalized, A-Hebs are now partially incorporated into the system, but at tremendous cost -- trillions in dollars transferred since the advent of the so-called "War on Poverty." Would the A-Heb not behave as this explanation predicts if such transfers were to halt?
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I feel that a quasi-Leninist explanation of class relations has much explanatory power when it comes to the lot of the American Hebrew: capitalism entails a sort of bribery between classes, the lower classes being in a sense 'payed off' to not revolt or otherwise cause trouble for an inherently unjust system. Is this not the case for the A-Heb? Traditionally excluded or otherwise marginalized, A-Hebs are now partially incorporated into the system, but at tremendous cost -- trillions in dollars transferred since the advent of the so-called "War on Poverty." Would the A-Heb not behave as this explanation predicts if such transfers were to halt?
yep!!!
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unless the guy grabbed the cops arm to hold him while he took off, (and we don't know that he did based on the video) which would be a reason I would shoot someone, he couldn't run him over. That reasoning wouldn't fly.
they charged his ass with murder.
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they charged his ass with murder.
And I hope it bites them square on the ass. It's ugly, but it's multiple steps down from murder, I can see even a horrid defense attorney being able to get this dismissed or at least hang a jury.
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they charged his ass with murder.
Classic over reach by the prosecution.
When it's all said and done the county will offer 12 years. The defense will come back and accept an 8 year sentence and he'll be out in 3 and a half.
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Not just blacks. Had a white teen one town over from me get shot and killed by a police officer because he failed to comply. It's everywhere, man. And all races. Law enforcement is seriously getting out of hand.
Or are too many people failing to comply..
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So, you either didn't watch the video, or didn't understand what you saw? Police try to grab hold of this moron, and he drive a way police hanging at the car. That would be attempted murder in any country you can name of, and it gives police all the rights to use deadly force to stop the suspect. It has been said over and over again, and still there is people who doesn't understand: Don't fight the cop, cop will kill you.
I would suspect the same from you.. Show me where the police tried to grab him.. and he drove away with the officer. From what I saw..and actually you really saw.. was blurred motion and shouting with him shooting him in the head. Unknown if the car was moving.. unknown if the cop was attached in any way to the car or to the driver. You can speculate.. but you can't say for sure.
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95% of the time these "power trips" seem to occur when the motorist is black
Or maybe they are reporting the whites vs blacks cause it gets people talking and paying attention ;)
Blacks vs blacks or whites vs whites happen day to day but won't get ratings and play on to people's emotions
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His bail was set at 1m.
Tensing was indicted on Wednesday on murder and voluntary manslaughter charges in the July 19 death of Samuel DuBose, who was shot in the head during a traffic stop. Tensing, who turned himself in and spent the night in jail in isolation, appeared in court in gray, striped prison clothes.
The incident was the latest in a series of fatal police confrontations in the United States that have raised questions about law enforcement's use of force against minorities.
In announcing the indictment on Wednesday, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joseph Deters said Tensing was not dragged by DuBose's car as the officer had claimed to justify the shooting.
Two other University of Cincinnati officers, Phillip Kidd and David Lindenschmidt, were placed on administrative leave on Thursday, according to Lonnie Soury, a spokesman for the school.
Deters' office on Thursday released videos from body cameras worn by two university police officers who witnessed the shooting. The videos show the immediate aftermath of the shooting.
On the video from the body camera worn by Kidd, Tensing's fellow officer, Tensing repeatedly says he was dragged by DuBose's car and that he got his arm stuck in the car. Kidd is heard saying, "Yeah, I saw that."
A few minutes later, an officer from Cincinnati's city police force asks Kidd whether he saw Tensing being dragged, and Kidd responds, "Yes." In the official incident report on DuBose's shooting, officer Kidd was quoted as saying he saw Tensing being dragged.
Kidd could not immediately be reached and it was not known whether he has legal representation. The Fraternal Order of Police in Cincinnati did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the content of the videos.
The University of Cincinnati police report said it is unclear how much Lindenschmidt witnessed.
Tensing's body-camera video was released on Wednesday and showed the traffic stop and the shooting. After failing to provide a driver's license at Tensing's request, DuBose tried to prevent Tensing from opening the car door as the officer ordered him to remove his seat belt.
The car started slowly rolling forward as Tensing reached in and yelled for him to stop. The officer pulled his gun and fired once, killing DuBose.
Tensing was fired by university police on Wednesday. If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of life in prison.
His attorney, Stew Mathews, told reporters Tensing had feared for his life during the altercation with DuBose, so he drew his weapon.
"He's feeling like he's been run over by a train," Mathews said.
Terina Allen, the victim's sister, said the video evidence from Tensing proved that DuBose was a peaceful man.
"Sam would have never did to that police officer what that police officer did to Sam," Allen said.
(Additional reporting by Fiona Ortiz and Mary Wisniewski in Chicago; Editing by Jonathan Oatis and Lisa Shumaker)
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Or are too many people failing to comply..
I'll give you that. Fair enough.
Perhaps, I missed it, but what is your overall view of law enforcement ? Just curious.
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Or are too many people failing to comply..
Ahh, yes, failing to comply = death.
Typical cop mentality.
Yet, you see thousands of other cops all around the world subduing people who are not complying without resorting to deadly force.
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Ahh, yes, failing to comply = death.
Typical cop mentality.
Yet, you see thousands of other cops all around the world subduing people who are not complying without resorting to deadly force.
Good point..and some of those cops from around the world aren't even ARMED.....they don't need a gun
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"Sam would have never did to that police officer what that police officer did to Sam," Allen said.
Laughable remark.
Ahh, yes, failing to comply = death.
Typical cop mentality.
Yet, you see thousands of other cops all around the world subduing people who are not complying without resorting to deadly force.
Good point..and some of those cops from around the world aren't even ARMED.....they don't need a gun
Failing to comply only results in death if you act like a complete moron and attempt to fight at the wrong time. Any person capable of critical thinking will be able to assert that complying when interacting with officers is the correct choice, tickets can be fought in court, a gunshot to the head cannot.
To say cops don't need guns is just idiotic, as a government institution it holds the right to use force and should always have the upperhand in cases of escalation of force. As for thousands of cops around the world subduing people without deadly force, perhaps you should also consider the mentality towards police around the world is different. Look at countries like Spain, Russia, or Asian countries, people know better than to fuck with the police.
Be a smart ass in court not in the streets. You'll live longer.
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Laughable remark.
Failing to comply only results in death if you act like a complete moron and attempt to fight at the wrong time. Any person capable of critical thinking will be able to assert that complying when interacting with officers is the correct choice, tickets can be fought in court, a gunshot to the head cannot.
To say cops don't need guns is just idiotic, as a government institution it holds the right to use force and should always have the upperhand in cases of escalation of force. As for thousands of cops around the world subduing people without deadly force, perhaps you should also consider the mentality towards police around the world is different. Look at countries like Spain, Russia, or Asian countries, people know better than to fuck with the police.
Be a smart ass in court not in the streets. You'll live longer.
Of course cops need guns.
But how many videos of multiple american cops having trouble subduing ONE guy. Yet, you see videos from other countries, and 2-3 cops are subduing one man.
I guess its no surprise that american cops cant subdue one guy when they look like this
(http://www.cmt.com/sitewide/assets/img/promo/shows/big_texas_heat/4/456x330.jpg)
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Good point..and some of those cops from around the world aren't even ARMED.....they don't need a gun
I am a gun rights activist, but we live in a country where civilians have guns and that changes things. I'm not saying I want strict gun control, just trying to show why we may deal a bit different here.
Although your tone is idiotic, your post has substance....Too many times people are mouthing off and not making the officer feel safe.....the officer was still wrong, but now a guy is dead for babbling and running his mouth when he didn't have to be
This is the sad part. None of it matters to the dead guy in the equation. Good shoot, bad shoot, he's still dead. :/
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Three more interesting pieces of info released now: 1) the criminal handed the cop a pint of Gin when asked for his license. 2) the other cops were screaming "stop," "stop," indicating the vehicle was in fact moving; this is also now supported in that we now know he shot the criminal in the head, blowing it almost off, so any movement/acceleration of the car had to have occurred BEFORE the shot. 3) not just a documented gang member, a multiple felon. His own sister gave the statement tonight that due to his previous history of dozens of arrests, he had never ran. This she claims is evidence he "has no problem being arrested," so he would never try to flee (WTF, is this really her defense of this father of 10?!? ???)
So we know he was driving with no license, no tags, is a documented member of the Bloods, a convicted felon with numerous arrests, would not exit the car, had a pint of Gin, tried to take off with the officers arm in the car yet. This is what we know for a fact, anything else (motives, racism, etc) is speculation.
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Begin anarchy? Are you kidding? They have been creating anarchy for 50 years all across the US with their huge crime rate....Have you ever been to the ghetto and observed their bestial behavior? I have....
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I am a gun rights activist, but we live in a country where civilians have guns and that changes things. I'm not saying I want strict gun control, just trying to show why we may deal a bit different here.
This is the sad part. None of it matters to the dead guy in the equation. Good shoot, bad shoot, he's still dead. :/
point well taken
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Three more interesting pieces of info released now: 1) the criminal handed the cop a pint of Gin when asked for his license. 2) the other cops were screaming "stop," "stop," indicating the vehicle was in fact moving; this is also now supported in that we now know he shot the criminal in the head, blowing it almost off, so any movement/acceleration of the car had to have occurred BEFORE the shot. 3) not just a documented gang member, a multiple felon. His own sister gave the statement tonight that due to his previous history of dozens of arrests, he had never ran. This she claims is evidence he "has no problem being arrested," so he would never try to flee (WTF, is this really her defense of this father of 10?!? ???)
So we know he was driving with no license, no tags, is a documented member of the Bloods, a convicted felon with numerous arrests, would not exit the car, had a pint of Gin, tried to take off with the officers arm in the car yet. This is what we know for a fact, anything else (motives, racism, etc) is speculation.
The officer asked him what was in the bottle go back and listen. He wasn't driving with no tags his wife's car didn't have a front plate.
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The officer asked him what was in the bottle go back and listen. He wasn't driving with no tags his wife's car didn't have a front plate.
The cops lawyer said something about the bottle containing a substance to beat drug tests.
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The cops lawyer said something about the bottle containing a substance to beat drug tests.
Interesting but the bottle looked to be full and sealed. Still it wouldn't be relevant and warrant the officer shooting him in the face.
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Interesting but the bottle looked to be full and sealed. Still it wouldn't be relevant and warrant the officer shooting him in the face.
Exactly.
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This is the slow motion version of the cop shooting Samuel DuBose. The fast version is really hard to see:
The slow-mo video really tells the story clearer. Looks like he braced the driver and fired into his head when he tried opening door. Gun was out very early with finger on trigger. Car did NOT move until the man slumped forward missing half his dome.
The story about almost getting run over, the man dragging him - completely debunked when you play it slowly.
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Laughable remark.
Failing to comply only results in death if you act like a complete moron and attempt to fight at the wrong time. Any person capable of critical thinking will be able to assert that complying when interacting with officers is the correct choice, tickets can be fought in court, a gunshot to the head cannot.
To say cops don't need guns is just idiotic, as a government institution it holds the right to use force and should always have the upperhand in cases of escalation of force. As for thousands of cops around the world subduing people without deadly force, perhaps you should also consider the mentality towards police around the world is different. Look at countries like Spain, Russia, or Asian countries, people know better than to fuck with the police.
Be a smart ass in court not in the streets. You'll live longer.
I disagree with this statement and so do our country's founders.
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The slow-mo video really tells the story clearer. Looks like he braced the driver and fired into his head when he tried opening door. Gun was out very early with finger on trigger. Car did NOT move until the man slumped forward missing half his dome.
The story about almost getting run over, the man dragging him - completely debunked when you play it slowly.
Damn the guy even had time to try and shield his face before he got shot.
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Damn the guy even had time to try and shield his face before he got shot.
yep, that murder charge suddenly makes sense.
Deadly force should be the LAST thing a cop uses. This campus cop pulled gun with finger on trigger and really initiated the mess. he panicked when the stop no longer went his way.
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Begin anarchy? Are you kidding? They have been creating anarchy for 50 years all across the US with their huge crime rate....Have you ever been to the ghetto and observed their bestial behavior? I have....
The only beast is the one in your mirror
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yep, that murder charge suddenly makes sense.
Deadly force should be the LAST thing a cop uses. This campus cop pulled gun with finger on trigger and really initiated the mess. he panicked when the stop no longer went his way.
Yup
I think that the cop felt like the driver was stalling, and was planning on pulling out a hidden weapon.
So the cop shot first.
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Yup
I think that the cop felt like the driver was stalling, and was planning on pulling out a hidden weapon.
So the cop shot first.
I read a better explanation recently. Accidental discharge. Cop produced his weapon, but forgot the part about taking his booger-hook off the trigger. With his left hand, he was reaching for the keys to the car. When he clenched his hands around the keys, there is a high-stress sympathetic response in the right hand. With his finger on the trigger, he discharged the weapon.
If true, he's still wrong for introducing the gun in what appears to be a non-lethal encounter. LEOs have different rules than the rest if us, though.
I would mention that the ability to keep one's finger off the trigger in a high-stress situation is PURELY a training matter and it is doubtful that a college PD has the training resources for that.
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It's not an indictment against LE as a whole if this dude is prosecuted. There are good cops and not so good cops, who when they fuck up should be held accountable. In this case, his fuck up ended in someone dying, and he should be held accountable. I think both sides, the extreme ones, can't see this. They either think cops are infallible or are criminals.
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Another one. I keep wondering when blacks will unify & begin anarchy?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/us/university-of-cincinnati-officer-indicted-in-shooting-death-of-motorist.html
Documented gang member...Arrested dozens of times...no drivers licence...no front plate...drives off in the middle of the stop...When will Blacks enter civilized society and follow simple rules?
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Documented gang member...Arrested dozens of times...no drivers licence...no front plate...drives off in the middle of the stop...When will Blacks enter civilized society and follow simple rules?
All true, but not capital crimes.
I am no liberal, for sure. But soon, it won't be just blacks being killed by a militarized police for no reason.
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Documented gang member...Arrested dozens of times...no drivers licence...no front plate...drives off in the middle of the stop...When will Blacks enter civilized society and follow simple rules?
Arrested over 70 times, known drug dealer, gang member, and fathered 13 kids.
Live within the rules of a lawful society or.......good riddance.
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Jesus fuck christ.
You know how all of these can be avoided? If you just comply with the officer, answer his questions without incriminating yourself if you have to, be respectful, make your hands visible at all times, keep them on the steering wheel, if the officer orders you out of the vehicle, you get out.
Any issues can be solved in court and by notifying Internal Affairs should you need to.
ALL of these could be avoided.
But no, we have segment of the population that does not understand the occupation of Law Enforcement and how to obey the law.
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Sam DuBose was shot and killed by University of Cincinnati police officer Ray Tensing on July 19. The police officer charged with murder and arraigned on a $1 million bond, claims he fired his gun at DuBose in self-defense. Not much is known about DuBose other than a few details shared by his family at a press conference and what the country witnessed on Tensing’s body cam recording leading up to the fatal shooting.
Samuel DuBose was reportedly arrested 75 times over the course of his life. None of the charges were reportedly for violent crime. Relatives and friends describe DuBose as “peaceful,” “fragile” and “frail.” During a brief interview after the shooting with his son, the boy told the media that his dad has “more than 12 children.” DuBose reportedly has 13 children.
According to court records shared via WCPO News, Sam DuBose was charged with driving without a license 13 times between 1995 and 2009. He was charged reportedly with driving without a license plate on his vehicle four times during dates, and he was charged with driving under suspension between 2005 and 2011 a total of eight times.
Amazing how he could support his 13 kids without a job ::)
(http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/254702/images/sam%20dubose.jpg)
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Begin anarchy? Are you kidding? They have been creating anarchy for 50 years all across the US with their huge crime rate....Have you ever been to the ghetto and observed their bestial behavior? I have....
Point well taken.
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It's not an indictment against LE as a whole if this dude is prosecuted. There are good cops and not so good cops, who when they fuck up should be held accountable. In this case, his fuck up ended in someone dying, and he should be held accountable. I think both sides, the extreme ones, can't see this. They either think cops are infallible or are criminals.
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Documented gang member...Arrested dozens of times...no drivers licence...no front plate...drives off in the middle of the stop...When will Blacks enter civilized society and follow simple rules?
doesn't matter if the victim had a record a mile long. Arrest his ass for the license and put him in jail. Dont shoot him in face.
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Three more interesting pieces of info released now: 1) the criminal handed the cop a pint of Gin when asked for his license. 2) the other cops were screaming "stop," "stop," indicating the vehicle was in fact moving; this is also now supported in that we now know he shot the criminal in the head, blowing it almost off, so any movement/acceleration of the car had to have occurred BEFORE the shot. 3) not just a documented gang member, a multiple felon. His own sister gave the statement tonight that due to his previous history of dozens of arrests, he had never ran. This she claims is evidence he "has no problem being arrested," so he would never try to flee (WTF, is this really her defense of this father of 10?!? ???)
So we know he was driving with no license, no tags, is a documented member of the Bloods, a convicted felon with numerous arrests, would not exit the car, had a pint of Gin, tried to take off with the officers arm in the car yet. This is what we know for a fact, anything else (motives, racism, etc) is speculation.
Your use of the word "criminal" is inaccurate....
The only criminal in this story happens to have the charge of murder attached to him. Makes that old "documented gang member" tag you mentioned seem like a parking ticket. Hahahahaha Documented gang member....lol
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doesn't matter if the victim had a record a mile long. Arrest his ass for the license and put him in jail. Dont shoot him in face.
How exactly does one arrest a non-compliant Hebrew these days? When he refuses to hand over his license or get out of his car, does one just say pretty please with peanut butter and jelly on it? Because you can't taser him, grab him around the neck, shoot him if he charges at you, shoot him if he runs, shoot him if he tries to run you over, or throw him in the back of a police van without making sure he's in the child safety seat.
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How exactly does one arrest a non-compliant Hebrew these days? When he refuses to hand over his license or get out of his car, does one just say pretty please with peanut butter and jelly on it? Because you can't taser him, grab him around the neck, shoot him if he charges at you, shoot him if he runs, shoot him if he tries to run you over, or throw him in the back of a police van without making sure he's in the child safety seat.
You are supposed to be a beta cop and let the Hebrew kill you if be chooses. This will make the liberals happy.
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You are supposed to be a beta cop and let the Hebrew kill you if be chooses. This will make the liberals happy.
Don't be a dick....first of all the cop engaged in too much conversation...I would have just said "license and registration please"....keep it short..at the point where he said he didnt have a license then you simply run his license to see if he actually has one and left it home...which is a whole different story
both guys played this into an incredibly bad hand...now one is dead and the other will be getting fucked up his ass by black guys for the rest of his life
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Don't be a dick....first of all the cop engaged in too much conversation...I would have just said "license and registration please"....keep it short..at the point where he said he didnt have a license then you simply run his license to see if he actually has one and left it home...which is a whole different story
both guys played this into an incredibly bad hand...now one is dead and the other will be getting fucked up his ass by black guys for the rest of his life
I doubt that the cop will be put into "general population" @ prison
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-identified-memphis-cop-killing/story?id=32833155 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-identified-memphis-cop-killing/story?id=32833155)
Cops don't need firearms ::)
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I doubt that the cop will be put into "general population" @ prison
No. He will be in PC. He will be very safe..im not kidding either
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No. He will be in PC. He will be very safe..im not kidding either
PC = protective custody. I worked with a guy at a grocery store who did local time.... called it "punk city" lol.
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The slow-mo video really tells the story clearer. Looks like he braced the driver and fired into his head when he tried opening door. Gun was out very early with finger on trigger. Car did NOT move until the man slumped forward missing half his dome.
The story about almost getting run over, the man dragging him - completely debunked when you play it slowly.
I really can't even read your post.. your reputation precedes you.. Didn't you give a blow by blow of the dead mug shot picture?
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How exactly does one arrest a non-compliant Hebrew these days? When he refuses to hand over his license or get out of his car, does one just say pretty please with peanut butter and jelly on it? Because you can't taser him, grab him around the neck, shoot him if he charges at you, shoot him if he runs, shoot him if he tries to run you over, or throw him in the back of a police van without making sure he's in the child safety seat.
Maybe tempt him to come out of the car with KFC and melon?
Officers should always need to be equipped with KFC, Watermelon and Grape Drank in these kind of situations.
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Maybe tempt him to come out of the car with KFC and melon?
Officers should always need to be equipped with KFC, Watermelon and Grape Drank in these kind of situations.
so thats how your mother got all those black guys to fuck her
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I really can't even read your post.. your reputation precedes you.. Didn't you give a blow by blow of the dead mug shot picture?
aren't you a cop? lol while it's true my ideas are often a little wild, I'd say you may lean toward clearing the cop in every video you see, right? we both come in a little leaning.
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The victim was a father of 10?
That officer appears to have been worthy of indictment.
lmao at father of 10. Who was he, Ronnie Coleman?
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aren't you a cop? lol while it's true my ideas are often a little wild, I'd say you may lean toward clearing the cop in every video you see, right? we both come in a little leaning.
You don't read my posts, how would you know.. you come in from outer space.. not a little leaning. You really should think before you post... you seem intelligent in many aspects.. but man, when it comes to evidence, and things of that nature, you really leave it all behind..
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Public knowledge now, the driver had 2 pounds of marijuana and large amount of drug proceeds. This unemployed, father of 10 might have had a good reason to flee the stop now