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Title: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 10, 2015, 04:47:19 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/us/ferguson-protests/

Police shot an armed Hebrew after chasing him. Evidently there was a shoot out between two groups during the protest, and when the police chased the suspect, a shoot out occurred. The cops were not wearing body cameras. 240, what's your take?
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: _aj_ on August 10, 2015, 04:49:34 AM
If Twitter is any indication, there was much gunplay in Ferguson overnight. Not that is shocking or anything. After all, it was a Hebrew "peaceful march."

One thing that is certain: if the #BlackLivesMatter pricks show up in your town, it's time to move.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Zillotch on August 10, 2015, 05:03:42 AM
I hope that every one of those fagget twat 'protesters' gets mowed down in a hail of gunfire. Shoot em all.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: _bruce_ on August 10, 2015, 05:08:10 AM
Time to leave the US of yesterday A.
Come home European American.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Competitor 9 on August 10, 2015, 05:23:13 AM
I full expect to see black defending him. I believe we have reached the point where even if a black man has a gun and shots a cop they will still get upset
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: _aj_ on August 10, 2015, 05:23:52 AM
Time to leave the US of yesterday A.
Come home European American.

Yeah, well you guys have your own problems with a "asians" ( ::))
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2015, 05:31:45 AM
240 will be able to clear this up.

240 will be able to tell us the precise distance of feet from the cop to the shooter. 240, then will be able to tell us exactly what happened, and what the cop and victim were feeling. 240 will then go into great detail about the psychological aspects of being a police officer, and characteristics that are needed to be an effective police officer. 240 will then cite numerous statistics to back up his claims. 240 will then examine this incident from a historical lens, while integrating aspects of violence and history into the discussion. 240 will discuss this incident from a political standpoint, and how it will influence future elections.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 06:32:37 AM
240 will be able to clear this up.

240 will be able to tell us the precise distance of feet from the cop to the shooter. 240, then will be able to tell us exactly what happened, and what the cop and victim were feeling. 240 will then go into great detail about the psychological aspects of being a police officer, and characteristics that are needed to be an effective police officer. 240 will then cite numerous statistics to back up his claims. 240 will then examine this incident from a historical lens, while integrating aspects of violence and history into the discussion. 240 will discuss this incident from a political standpoint, and how it will influence future elections.

it's stressful work being a cop.  This incident looks like a heroic cop chasing down a bad guy who was involved with a shooting.  Props to the cop for bringing down the bad guy.   Body cameras are always a great tool for making sure the shoot was legal, of course.  And the cop's statement needs to match the facts.  I only lose my shit when cop says one thing, and a mountain of evidence says another, and the cops feed disinfo to the media to further their political agenda at the expense of the public trust, but that only happens some of the time. 
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: BB on August 10, 2015, 07:58:07 AM
Bullets are plentiful, and life is cheap in Fergadisu it seems -

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Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Zillotch on August 10, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
life is cheap in Fergadisu it seems -

Not nearly cheap enough.... far too many 'protesters' are still sucking oxygen. We need more bodies, less bullshit.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: SquidVicious on August 10, 2015, 08:13:19 AM
Before the police moved in, Ferguson was a lovely family oriented town in middle America where anyone would feel safe to raise a family.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: robcguns on August 10, 2015, 09:11:06 AM
I just dont understand how blacks dont value human life?why so quick with the gun violence,cant they just fist fight?the hell does shooting people prove?
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Yamcha on August 10, 2015, 09:18:19 AM
I just dont understand how blacks dont value human life?why so quick with the gun violence,cant they just fist fight?the hell does shooting people prove?

they have to be in packs to fist fight
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: The Ugly on August 10, 2015, 09:26:36 AM
Time to revisit napalm.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Zillotch on August 10, 2015, 10:01:17 AM
they have to be in packs to fist fight

Some may take issue with that statement. 

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Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 10:09:23 AM
ferguson was packed with a-hole cops and a-hole criminals, one year ago.

today they've added more cops, more media, a bunch of idiot protesters, but it's the same shit place it's always been.  
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Waller on August 10, 2015, 10:11:33 AM
Some may take issue with that statement. 

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Cool Russel Brand tatt.

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Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: The Ugly on August 10, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
Why can't they just shoot the guns, loot, rapees, etc. outta their Dindu hands?
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: SquidVicious on August 10, 2015, 10:46:10 AM
Why can't they just shoot the guns, loot, rapees, etc. outta their Dindu hands?
That's only permitted in Mogadishu, not Fergudishu.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Howard on August 10, 2015, 11:18:03 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/us/ferguson-protests/

Police shot an armed Hebrew after chasing him. Evidently there was a shoot out between two groups during the protest, and when the police chased the suspect, a shoot out occurred. The cops were not wearing body cameras. 240, what's your take?

THAT should get a huge, diverse crowd to rally to their cause. ::)
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: _aj_ on August 10, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
Hahaha!

https://twitter.com/antoniofrench/status/630655432110014464
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 10, 2015, 11:38:38 AM
Hahaha!

https://twitter.com/antoniofrench/status/630655432110014464

Who's the getbigger a few comments down with his arm flexed?  Is that a groink sighting?
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
ferguson was packed with a-hole cops and a-hole criminals, one year ago.

today they've added more cops, more media, a bunch of idiot protesters, but it's the same shit place it's always been.  


If they hadn't been ordered to stand down by the mayor the first time this wouldn't have happened a second time. Fuck em'. let it burn. This is what they want. But if they get shot by a black, white, yellow or whatever cop they should just shut the fuck up. If they want to act uncivilized then treat them they way they deserve.

Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and Faarakan are all smiles when this shit happens. 
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: calfzilla on August 10, 2015, 01:20:50 PM
Wouldn't it be ironic if Iran nuked Ferguson, and all the white people in the U.S. had to pretend to be upset.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 01:53:46 PM
If they hadn't been ordered to stand down by the mayor the first time this wouldn't have happened a second time.

So impeach and charge the motherfccker, and lock him up.   What's the issue? 
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: _aj_ on August 10, 2015, 02:06:22 PM
Wondering how tonight is going to go. I know that the good citizens of Ferguson always obey these "states of emergency" without question and stay inside after curfew.

Everything is gonna be fine!
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 07:25:36 PM
So just to be clear on this. Black guy shoots at cops, cops shoot back and hit him......now there's a riot because the kid who shot at the cops first....got shot....because he's black? Did I get this right?

240, lend us your spin.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 10, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
What happens in Ferguson is now irrelevant.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Schnauzer on August 10, 2015, 07:41:29 PM
So just to be clear on this. Black guy shoots at cops, cops shoot back and hit him......now there's a riot because the kid who shot at the cops first....got shot....because he's black? Did I get this right?

240, lend us your spin.

He's busy flying to Ferguson to measure out how many feet were between the black guy and the cops at the time of the shooting
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 08:08:40 PM
So just to be clear on this. Black guy shoots at cops, cops shoot back and hit him......now there's a riot because the kid who shot at the cops first....got shot....because he's black? Did I get this right?

240, lend us your spin.

Asked and answered already.   I responded this morning.  

it's stressful work being a cop.  This incident looks like a heroic cop chasing down a bad guy who was involved with a shooting.  Props to the cop for bringing down the bad guy.   Body cameras are always a great tool for making sure the shoot was legal, of course.  And the cop's statement needs to match the facts.  I only lose my shit when cop says one thing, and a mountain of evidence says another, and the cops feed disinfo to the media to further their political agenda at the expense of the public trust, but that only happens some of the time.  

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Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 10, 2015, 08:51:15 PM
Fuck it.

Declare Martial Law.

Send body bags.

Wash, rinse, repeat as necessary.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Schnauzer on August 10, 2015, 09:22:40 PM
it's stressful work being a cop. This incident looks like a heroic cop chasing down a bad guy who was involved with a shooting.  Props to the cop for bringing down the bad guy.   Body cameras are always a great tool for making sure the shoot was legal, of course.  And the cop's statement needs to match the facts.  I only lose my shit when cop says one thing, and a mountain of evidence says another, and the cops feed disinfo to the media to further their political agenda at the expense of the public trust, but that only happens some of the time.  


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Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: The Ugly on August 10, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
Hope I wake up to dead white activists, fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 09:40:02 PM
Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: The Ugly on August 10, 2015, 09:43:30 PM
Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.

I've been saying this since forever.

... then they did, and STILL blamed the cops for not doing what they told them not to do. No idea why the former commissioner hasn't sued Baltimore into Detroit.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: wes on August 10, 2015, 09:44:22 PM
Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.
Self inflicted genocide of peace!!   
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: US MUSL on August 10, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
A friend of mine that lives behind the burned out Quick Trip in Ferguson  says the last  couple of nights all she's  heard is gunshots and helicopters.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: The Ugly on August 10, 2015, 10:32:55 PM
A friend of mine that lives behind the burned out Quick Trip in Ferguson  says the last  couple of nights all she's  heard is gunshots and helicopters.

She needs to move, friend.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Asked and answered already.   I responded this morning.  

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Hahaha....whaaaaaat??
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 10:58:32 PM
Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.

you know what would end this instantly?

1) Remove all the cameras, cable show, and radio talk host coverage.  The attention is why they bother showing up.  The minute it's boring, they don't bother.

2) put front and back body cameras on 100% of the cops there.  If they shoot someone, clear video of the shooting removes all questions and proves cops heroic, or otherwise, without discussion.

3) Add neon bright green flood lights, blaring Weird Al Yankovic music, and maybe some fake skunk smell to make the streets as un-comfy as possible.  Nobody watching, nobody cares, nobody to instigate, and it just plain sucks to be outside, so they go home.


that's it.   really.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 11:01:24 PM
you know what would end this instantly?

1) Remove all the cameras, cable show, and radio talk host coverage.  The attention is why they bother showing up.  The minute it's boring, they don't bother.

2) put front and back body cameras on 100% of the cops there.  If they shoot someone, clear video of the shooting removes all questions and proves cops heroic, or otherwise, without discussion.

3) Add neon bright green flood lights, blaring Weird Al Yankovic music, and maybe some fake skunk smell to make the streets as un-comfy as possible.  Nobody watching, nobody cares, nobody to instigate, and it just plain sucks to be outside, so they go home.


that's it.   really.

What would end it if the cops were allowed to do their jobs. Novel idea isn't it? Fucken liberals always wanting to complicate things.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 11:05:06 PM
What would end it if the cops were allowed to do their jobs. Novel idea isn't it?

eh, too many cops lie about shit, man.  Too many cops have put a person in prison over "he said, she said".

I think EVERY person that supports cops, supports body cameras, because it 100% eliminates bullshit the cops go thru from false accusations.   The minute "oh, that cop abused me" is spouted, we play the video, and add false accusation charges to the bad guy's list.  OR, if they cop did smash him when he didn't have to, then you fire the fvcker.

I don't get why POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY gets ANY opposition.  I truly do not.  Don't we WANT accountability?  Don't we WANT surgeons to be videotaped in case they leave a sponge in there and we get deathly sick?  Don't we WANT a camera on a teacher if a a 17 year old girl makes an accusation?

Makes no sense to me.  If you don't beat the shit out of people without legal cause, you lvoe the camera.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 11:07:00 PM
eh, too many cops lie about shit, man.  Too many cops have put a person in prison over "he said, she said".

I think EVERY person that supports cops, supports body cameras, because it 100% eliminates bullshit the cops go thru from false accusations.   The minute "oh, that cop abused me" is spouted, we play the video, and add false accusation charges to the bad guy's list.  OR, if they cop did smash him when he didn't have to, then you fire the fvcker.

I don't get why POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY gets ANY opposition.  I truly do not.  Don't we WANT accountability?  Don't we WANT surgeons to be videotaped in case they leave a sponge in there and we get deathly sick?  Don't we WANT a camera on a teacher if a a 17 year old girl makes an accusation?

Makes no sense to me.  If you don't beat the shit out of people without legal cause, you lvoe the camera.

Jesus Christ you're clueless.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 11:07:02 PM
What would end it if the cops were allowed to do their jobs. Novel idea isn't it? Fucken liberals always wanting to complicate things.

What is so COMPLICATED about police following the same laws we're expected to follow?   I drive 44mph everywhere I go, as it's a 45mph zone.  I see cops speeding past me at 70 mph, daily, just heading to work.  One cop killed a kid, and he fought the reckless driving ticket - despite his admitting he was speeding, turning on computer, and drifting lanes.

I respect cops, but I expect them to follow the same laws as us.  Is it "liberal" to somehow expect consistency?  And of course, it's patriotic to give cops their own set of laws?  nope.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
Jesus Christ you're clueless.

I made a really good post there.  I made excellent points.  I don't think I could be any clearer.

Follow the laws - cops and civilians - and keep video of their interactions to keep everyone honest. 

IMO, "clueless" means enjoying this cloud of secrecy where a cops' word is not to be questioned, and advancements in video technology are somehow bad because it makes cop follow laws too.

Sorry, but I don't understand.  I guess clueless works.  I want cops to follow the law and be accountable.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
I made a really good post there.  I made excellent points.  I don't think I could be any clearer.

Follow the laws - cops and civilians - and keep video of their interactions to keep everyone honest. 

IMO, "clueless" means enjoying this cloud of secrecy where a cops' word is not to be questioned, and advancements in video technology are somehow bad because it makes cop follow laws too.

Sorry, but I don't understand.  I guess clueless works.  I want cops to follow the law and be accountable.

You blamed it all on the cops. If the cops were allowed to crack head the first time, it would have put the fear of God into these losers the second time. If you shoot at the cops you deserve to get killed. Damn...that commonsense thing again.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 11:21:42 PM
You blamed it all on the cops. If the cops were allowed to crack head the first time, it would have put the fear of God into these losers the second time. If you shoot at the cops you deserve to get killed. Damn...that commonsense thing again.

Oh, cops have been "cracking down" on people for decades.  It didn't stop anything.  That kind of thinking is odd to me.  Conservative ideals state no citizen should be in fear of those they pay to enforce the law.  Liberal ideology says let the govt discipline is as they see fit. 

Put cameras everywhere and let people live their life and enjoy their rights. 

If cop or citizen breaks the law, remove them from society via prison system. 

And we are in 100% agreement if they shoot at cops.  I think u just want to argue here.  I just want Americans to enjoy freedom and for 100% of people to respect the law.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 11:25:50 PM
Oh, cops have been "cracking down" on people for decades.  It didn't stop anything.  That kind of thinking is odd to me.  Conservative ideals state no citizen should be in fear of those they pay to enforce the law.  Liberal ideology says let the govt discipline is as they see fit. 

Put cameras everywhere and let people live their life and enjoy their rights. 

If cop or citizen breaks the law, remove them from society via prison system. 

And we are in 100% agreement if they shoot at cops.  I think u just want to argue here.  I just want Americans to enjoy freedom and for 100% of people to respect the law.

Holy fuck....I'm out. Either you're drinking or delusional. Till tomorrow. Btw, drink water. Itll help with your hangover.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 11:26:36 PM
Lol I'm stone sober.  I think my words and quite reasonable.  Have a good night, always a fun debate. 
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2015, 11:28:37 PM
"Conservative ideals state no person should be in fear" .....unless that Person shoots at a cop then he should be scared shitless of dying and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
"Conservative ideals state no person should be in fear" .....unless that Person shoots at a cop then he should be scared shitless of dying and rightfully so.

Again, I gave the cop props early this am, 18 hours ago, for capping the bad guy.  I don't know what you're arguing here. Conservatives love the law and respect it, and part of smart law enforcement is honest accounting of events, which cameras provide and good cops love. 
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 11, 2015, 03:12:08 AM
Oh, cops have been "cracking down" on people for decades.  It didn't stop anything.  That kind of thinking is odd to me.  Conservative ideals state no citizen should be in fear of those they pay to enforce the law.  Liberal ideology says let the govt discipline is as they see fit. 

Put cameras everywhere and let people live their life and enjoy their rights. 

If cop or citizen breaks the law, remove them from society via prison system. 

And we are in 100% agreement if they shoot at cops.  I think u just want to argue here.  I just want Americans to enjoy freedom and for 100% of people to respect the law.

Why do you want cameras everywhere? That's strange to me, 1984 type stuff right there.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: _aj_ on August 11, 2015, 03:26:28 AM
Why do you want cameras everywhere? That's strange to me, 1984 type stuff right there.

Police body cams are reasonable. They've already helped cops in several occasions where people were claiming the cops racially harassed them. In one case a black female college professor got arrested when her bullshit story was proved wrong by the police bodycam.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 11, 2015, 03:40:53 AM
Police body cams are reasonable. They've already helped cops in several occasions where people were claiming the cops racially harassed them. In one case a black female college professor got arrested when her bullshit story was proved wrong by the police bodycam.

I'm all for that. I believe he was suggesting putting them everywhere. On teachers etc. Once that camel's nose is under the tent, it's how long before those cameras are in your homes?
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: Yamcha on August 11, 2015, 03:52:51 AM
Hebrews seem to like Twitter. Shut down Twitter.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: SquidVicious on August 11, 2015, 05:54:53 AM
How long before those body cams are used to snoop on every word spoken by the cops during their shifts? They're already subpoenaing text messages and emails sent by every cop and municipal police employee so it's just a matter of time before the race police want every single white person fearing for his or her job just for expressing common sense opinions and beliefs.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: SF1900 on August 11, 2015, 06:43:15 AM
Oh, cops have been "cracking down" on people for decades.  It didn't stop anything.  That kind of thinking is odd to me.  Conservative ideals state no citizen should be in fear of those they pay to enforce the law.  Liberal ideology says let the govt discipline is as they see fit. 

Put cameras everywhere and let people live their life and enjoy their rights. 

If cop or citizen breaks the law, remove them from society via prison system. 

And we are in 100% agreement if they shoot at cops.  I think u just want to argue here.  I just want Americans to enjoy freedom and for 100% of people to respect the law.

Would love to have a camera in your bathroom, Rob.
Title: Re: Shooting overnight in Ferguson
Post by: 240 is Back on August 11, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
I'm all for that. I believe he was suggesting putting them everywhere. On teachers etc. Once that camel's nose is under the tent, it's how long before those cameras are in your homes?

I believe anyone paid BY THE PUBLIC and entrusted with special power and right to judge/execute or enforce laws should be subject to this.

Yes, schools, definitely.  Most have them already in hallways and offices.  Some have in classroom.  A good idea if there's an assault, if someone accuses of rape, if a teacher is telling kids to vote obama, whatever.  If you're paid with tax dollars and can put a kid in alternative school for 45 days with your word, or put someone in jail for life with you word, then yes, you should be willing to do your job on camera.

I'm not saying put it in our homes.  but if you have my 2 year old all day and she gets bruised or ends up dead, you damn right I want a video.