Shooting overnight in Ferguson

[_aj_]

Wondering how tonight is going to go. I know that the good citizens of Ferguson always obey these "states of emergency" without question and stay inside after curfew.

Everything is gonna be fine!

[Coach is Back!]

So just to be clear on this. Black guy shoots at cops, cops shoot back and hit him......now there's a riot because the kid who shot at the cops first....got shot....because he's black? Did I get this right?

240, lend us your spin.

[Mr Anabolic]

What happens in Ferguson is now irrelevant.

[Schnauzer]

So just to be clear on this. Black guy shoots at cops, cops shoot back and hit him......now there's a riot because the kid who shot at the cops first....got shot....because he's black? Did I get this right?

240, lend us your spin.

He's busy flying to Ferguson to measure out how many feet were between the black guy and the cops at the time of the shooting

[240 is Back]

So just to be clear on this. Black guy shoots at cops, cops shoot back and hit him......now there's a riot because the kid who shot at the cops first....got shot....because he's black? Did I get this right?

240, lend us your spin.

Asked and answered already.   I responded this morning.  

it's stressful work being a cop.  This incident looks like a heroic cop chasing down a bad guy who was involved with a shooting.  Props to the cop for bringing down the bad guy.   Body cameras are always a great tool for making sure the shoot was legal, of course.  And the cop's statement needs to match the facts.  I only lose my shit when cop says one thing, and a mountain of evidence says another, and the cops feed disinfo to the media to further their political agenda at the expense of the public trust, but that only happens some of the time.  

[Walter Sobchak]

Fuck it.

Declare Martial Law.

Send body bags.

Wash, rinse, repeat as necessary.

[Schnauzer]

it's stressful work being a cop. This incident looks like a heroic cop chasing down a bad guy who was involved with a shooting.  Props to the cop for bringing down the bad guy.   Body cameras are always a great tool for making sure the shoot was legal, of course.  And the cop's statement needs to match the facts.  I only lose my shit when cop says one thing, and a mountain of evidence says another, and the cops feed disinfo to the media to further their political agenda at the expense of the public trust, but that only happens some of the time.  

[The Ugly]

Hope I wake up to dead white activists, fuck 'em.

[Coach is Back!]

Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.

[The Ugly]

Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.

I've been saying this since forever.

... then they did, and STILL blamed the cops for not doing what they told them not to do. No idea why the former commissioner hasn't sued Baltimore into Detroit.

[wes]

Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.

Self inflicted genocide of peace!!   

[US MUSL]

A friend of mine that lives behind the burned out Quick Trip in Ferguson  says the last  couple of nights all she's  heard is gunshots and helicopters.

[The Ugly]

A friend of mine that lives behind the burned out Quick Trip in Ferguson  says the last  couple of nights all she's  heard is gunshots and helicopters.

She needs to move, friend.

[Coach is Back!]

Asked and answered already.   I responded this morning.  

Hahaha....whaaaaaat??

[240 is Back]

Fuck it. Pull out all of the cops and let em police themselves. You'll wake up to a ghost town tomorrow.

you know what would end this instantly?

1) Remove all the cameras, cable show, and radio talk host coverage.  The attention is why they bother showing up.  The minute it's boring, they don't bother.

2) put front and back body cameras on 100% of the cops there.  If they shoot someone, clear video of the shooting removes all questions and proves cops heroic, or otherwise, without discussion.

3) Add neon bright green flood lights, blaring Weird Al Yankovic music, and maybe some fake skunk smell to make the streets as un-comfy as possible.  Nobody watching, nobody cares, nobody to instigate, and it just plain sucks to be outside, so they go home.


that's it.   really.

[Coach is Back!]

you know what would end this instantly?

1) Remove all the cameras, cable show, and radio talk host coverage.  The attention is why they bother showing up.  The minute it's boring, they don't bother.

2) put front and back body cameras on 100% of the cops there.  If they shoot someone, clear video of the shooting removes all questions and proves cops heroic, or otherwise, without discussion.

3) Add neon bright green flood lights, blaring Weird Al Yankovic music, and maybe some fake skunk smell to make the streets as un-comfy as possible.  Nobody watching, nobody cares, nobody to instigate, and it just plain sucks to be outside, so they go home.


that's it.   really.

What would end it if the cops were allowed to do their jobs. Novel idea isn't it? Fucken liberals always wanting to complicate things.

[240 is Back]

What would end it if the cops were allowed to do their jobs. Novel idea isn't it?

eh, too many cops lie about shit, man.  Too many cops have put a person in prison over "he said, she said".

I think EVERY person that supports cops, supports body cameras, because it 100% eliminates bullshit the cops go thru from false accusations.   The minute "oh, that cop abused me" is spouted, we play the video, and add false accusation charges to the bad guy's list.  OR, if they cop did smash him when he didn't have to, then you fire the fvcker.

I don't get why POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY gets ANY opposition.  I truly do not.  Don't we WANT accountability?  Don't we WANT surgeons to be videotaped in case they leave a sponge in there and we get deathly sick?  Don't we WANT a camera on a teacher if a a 17 year old girl makes an accusation?

Makes no sense to me.  If you don't beat the shit out of people without legal cause, you lvoe the camera.

[Coach is Back!]

eh, too many cops lie about shit, man.  Too many cops have put a person in prison over "he said, she said".

I think EVERY person that supports cops, supports body cameras, because it 100% eliminates bullshit the cops go thru from false accusations.   The minute "oh, that cop abused me" is spouted, we play the video, and add false accusation charges to the bad guy's list.  OR, if they cop did smash him when he didn't have to, then you fire the fvcker.

I don't get why POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY gets ANY opposition.  I truly do not.  Don't we WANT accountability?  Don't we WANT surgeons to be videotaped in case they leave a sponge in there and we get deathly sick?  Don't we WANT a camera on a teacher if a a 17 year old girl makes an accusation?

Makes no sense to me.  If you don't beat the shit out of people without legal cause, you lvoe the camera.

Jesus Christ you're clueless.

[240 is Back]

What would end it if the cops were allowed to do their jobs. Novel idea isn't it? Fucken liberals always wanting to complicate things.

What is so COMPLICATED about police following the same laws we're expected to follow?   I drive 44mph everywhere I go, as it's a 45mph zone.  I see cops speeding past me at 70 mph, daily, just heading to work.  One cop killed a kid, and he fought the reckless driving ticket - despite his admitting he was speeding, turning on computer, and drifting lanes.

I respect cops, but I expect them to follow the same laws as us.  Is it "liberal" to somehow expect consistency?  And of course, it's patriotic to give cops their own set of laws?  nope.

[240 is Back]

Jesus Christ you're clueless.

I made a really good post there.  I made excellent points.  I don't think I could be any clearer.

Follow the laws - cops and civilians - and keep video of their interactions to keep everyone honest. 

IMO, "clueless" means enjoying this cloud of secrecy where a cops' word is not to be questioned, and advancements in video technology are somehow bad because it makes cop follow laws too.

Sorry, but I don't understand.  I guess clueless works.  I want cops to follow the law and be accountable.

[Coach is Back!]

I made a really good post there.  I made excellent points.  I don't think I could be any clearer.

Follow the laws - cops and civilians - and keep video of their interactions to keep everyone honest. 

IMO, "clueless" means enjoying this cloud of secrecy where a cops' word is not to be questioned, and advancements in video technology are somehow bad because it makes cop follow laws too.

Sorry, but I don't understand.  I guess clueless works.  I want cops to follow the law and be accountable.

You blamed it all on the cops. If the cops were allowed to crack head the first time, it would have put the fear of God into these losers the second time. If you shoot at the cops you deserve to get killed. Damn...that commonsense thing again.

[240 is Back]

You blamed it all on the cops. If the cops were allowed to crack head the first time, it would have put the fear of God into these losers the second time. If you shoot at the cops you deserve to get killed. Damn...that commonsense thing again.

Oh, cops have been "cracking down" on people for decades.  It didn't stop anything.  That kind of thinking is odd to me.  Conservative ideals state no citizen should be in fear of those they pay to enforce the law.  Liberal ideology says let the govt discipline is as they see fit. 

Put cameras everywhere and let people live their life and enjoy their rights. 

If cop or citizen breaks the law, remove them from society via prison system. 

And we are in 100% agreement if they shoot at cops.  I think u just want to argue here.  I just want Americans to enjoy freedom and for 100% of people to respect the law.

[Coach is Back!]

Oh, cops have been "cracking down" on people for decades.  It didn't stop anything.  That kind of thinking is odd to me.  Conservative ideals state no citizen should be in fear of those they pay to enforce the law.  Liberal ideology says let the govt discipline is as they see fit. 

Put cameras everywhere and let people live their life and enjoy their rights. 

If cop or citizen breaks the law, remove them from society via prison system. 

And we are in 100% agreement if they shoot at cops.  I think u just want to argue here.  I just want Americans to enjoy freedom and for 100% of people to respect the law.

Holy fuck....I'm out. Either you're drinking or delusional. Till tomorrow. Btw, drink water. Itll help with your hangover.

[240 is Back]

Lol I'm stone sober.  I think my words and quite reasonable.  Have a good night, always a fun debate. 

[Coach is Back!]

"Conservative ideals state no person should be in fear" .....unless that Person shoots at a cop then he should be scared shitless of dying and rightfully so.