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Ramy does 110 pound dumbbell flyes and benches 4 plates per side. Phil does 3 plates on hammer strength press and is huffing and puffing.
(http://s15.postimg.org/xjbwkyb23/Screen_Shot_2015_08_17_at_11_25_58_AM.png)
(http://s30.postimg.org/x0x54kqs1/Screen_Shot_2015_08_17_at_11_28_17_AM.png)
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i dont think he will beat phil , he never dials it in
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i dont think he will beat phil , he never dials it in
But he does make Phil look so small in some poses.
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/big-ramy-destroy-phil-heath-1024x739.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0Uz3alz.jpg%C2%A8)
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Big size difference
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But he does make Phil look so small in some poses.
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/big-ramy-destroy-phil-heath-1024x739.jpg)
Stage 1/Stage 2 Palumboism for Phil in this shot.
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Side chest
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Side chest
Big Ram has bigger legs in the side chest pose. In terms of size, upper bodies appear similar, but Heath is more conditioned, making him look bigger.
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Very motivational stuff
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Big Ram has bigger legs in the side chest pose. In terms of size, upper bodies appear similar, but Heath is more conditioned, making him look bigger.
Where in that side-chest is Heath more conditioned? There's not a striation to be seen in Heath's delts in that pic.
Ramy takes him in size, delts, chest, legs, width and gyno.
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Ramy loses from the back and most likely will again this year. The only pose that Ramy needs to look freaky in is the BDB. If he gets shredded in that pose he wins or comes damn close.
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At least he does something impressive (benching 405 for tight and clean reps). Of course, the guy didn't earn his strength. Without the drugs, Ramy wouldn't be pressing 225 for two sets of eight, even.
No wonder so many of these wankers tear shit.
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Ramy does 110 pound dumbbell flyes and benches 4 plates per side. Phil does 3 plates on hammer strength press and is huffing and puffing.
(http://s15.postimg.org/xjbwkyb23/Screen_Shot_2015_08_17_at_11_25_58_AM.png)
(http://s30.postimg.org/x0x54kqs1/Screen_Shot_2015_08_17_at_11_28_17_AM.png)
You can't compare them
Ramy is big
Ramy has wide shoulders
Ramy is humble
Ramy makes for a good workout video
Ramy has little to no gut despite his size
Phil is well spoken, has detailed definition and is a master at dialing it in
They share almost nothing
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its the conditioning bros, has ramy ever came into a show in super condition? correct me if am wrong on that one.
if ramy competed even 10 years ago i doubt he would crack the top 10 in some shows. in the 90's not even the top 15
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Where in that side-chest is Heath more conditioned? There's not a striation to be seen in Heath's delts in that pic.
Ramy takes him in size, delts, chest, legs, width and gyno.
At least in the arms and maybe legs, but not really in the shoulders or chest.
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its the conditioning bros, has ramy ever came into a show in super condition? correct me if am wrong on that one.
if ramy competed even 10 years ago i doubt he would crack the top 10 in some shows. in the 90's not even the top 15
I think that DJ got him into a "bigger is better" frame of mind
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Why does everyone bash Phil for how he trains? Who cares what he does, this is bodybuilding. Whatever he does it's working for him .
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I think that DJ got him into a "bigger is better" frame of mind
To quote a historian talking about the sheer number of tanks in the Soviet arsenal...
"Quantity has a quality all its own"
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To quote a historian talking about the sheer number of tanks in the Soviet arsenal...
"Quantity has a quality all its own"
Lenin =) And he's right.
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Lenin =) And he's right.
Ha! And according to this, it was Stalin: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Stalin
I must have heard the historian speaking about his comments. It was a Military Channel special on the "Top 10 Battle Tanks of all time"
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To quote a historian talking about the sheer number of tanks in the Soviet arsenal...
"Quantity has a quality all its own"
i have no idea why ramy would consult with dennis james for a contest prep, i mean seriously who have dennis james ever churned out
that was anything. he needs to hook up with nichols or aceto.
he will come into the olympia water logged as usual
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i have no idea why ramy would consult with dennis james for a contest prep, i mean seriously who have dennis james ever churned out
that was anything. he needs to hook up with nichols or aceto.
he will come into the olympia water logged as usual
He worked with Aceto for a couple months until his camp moved him to Farah. Too bad, I was actually looking forward to seeing what Aceto would've been able to do with Ramy...
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Ha! And according to this, it was Stalin: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Stalin
I must have heard the historian speaking about his comments. It was a Military Channel special on the "Top 10 Battle Tanks of all time"
Haha shit I must have read a faulty source..
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Ha! And according to this, it was Stalin: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Stalin
I must have heard the historian speaking about his comments. It was a Military Channel special on the "Top 10 Battle Tanks of all time"
Most interesting stuff, honorable AJ.
Sure enough, in WW2, the USSR generally used grossly inferior tech opposite Nazi Germany; however, one thing they did enjoy over the Germans was American-imported APCs, which had much greater speed and, therefore, much greater strategic value than the means by which most German troops were deployed to fight.
Then, of course, you can't ignore the sheer industrial might of the Soviets vs. the Germans. Industrial capacity is what made the U.S. a superpower, and it's little different for the USSR "back in the day." If you can produce 1,000 shitty tanks to the enemy's 100 awesome ones, odds are you're gonna fucking SMASH them in the end.
But on a BBing-related note, Ramy did some decent benching after that lengthy warm-up and the heavy flying motion beforehand. He looked as if he had more reps in the tank with that 405.
On the other hand, the guy is supposed by north of 300, right? If he DIDN'T bench big weights for reps, I'd be surprised. Even "little" Dexter could bench 405 for five or six reps, and that dude is NOT built to handle big weights.
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I hope to see him with a Sandow, while Philly lies whining on the floor...
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Most interesting stuff, honorable AJ.
Sure enough, in WW2, the USSR generally used grossly inferior tech opposite Nazi Germany; however, one thing they did enjoy over the Germans was American-imported APCs, which had much greater speed and, therefore, much greater strategic value than the means by which most German troops were deployed to fight.
Then, of course, you can't ignore the sheer industrial might of the Soviets vs. the Germans. Industrial capacity is what made the U.S. a superpower, and it's little different for the USSR "back in the day." If you can produce 1,000 shitty tanks to the enemy's 100 awesome ones, odds are you're gonna fucking SMASH them in the end.
But on a BBing-related note, Ramy did some decent benching after that lengthy warm-up and the heavy flying motion beforehand. He looked as if he had more reps in the tank with that 405.
On the other hand, the guy is supposed by north of 300, right? If he DIDN'T bench big weights for reps, I'd be surprised. Even "little" Dexter could bench 405 for five or six reps, and that dude is NOT built to handle big weights.
I've seen dexter bench 365 for reps... But his spotter had his hands on the bar
It didn't look like Dexter needed help
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i have no idea why ramy would consult with dennis james for a contest prep, i mean seriously who have dennis james ever churned out
that was anything. he needs to hook up with nichols or aceto.
he will come into the olympia water logged as usual
Do you think Nichols or Aceto could fix Ramy's "water" problems? I don't think so, they
don't work miracles or change someone's genetics. Look at Cerdic at his last show, far from
in tip-top shape and he had Aceto coaching him. Plus Ramy doesn't have a major water problem anyway, basically in the same shape as Phil in those pics, maybe a tiny bit smoother from the back, in certain areas. It's genetics mostly.
The best coach is the one who is the best fit psychologically, where they trust eachother and the coach can motivate the athlete.
IMO, for Ramy to come in noticeably harder he would probably have to lose 20-30lbs and they aren't ready to lose that much size for a 2% difference in conditioning.
I know Ahmad Ahmad a little bit, spoke to him as he was leaving for Kuwait to prep the last month before the O at Oxygen gym. Here he is with Ramy. Interesting to see if he hits his best shape yet prepping there. 8)
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Looks like a good gym to train in but poor old Ramy doesn't have much charisma! That is the real obstacle holding him back from that illusive title of MR O. He's just not got that intangible it factor the kingmakers behind the scenes will be looking for. Poor bugger just stares like some modern day ogre, red headphones stuck to his head secluding him even further from his audience.
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Looks like a good gym to train in but poor old Ramy doesn't have much charisma! That is the real obstacle holding him back from that illusive title of MR O. He's just not got that intangible it factor the kingmakers behind the scenes will be looking for. Poor bugger just stares like some modern day ogre, red headphones stuck to his head secluding him even further from his audience.
I think it's possible to win without much balonie acting out (aka embarrassing himself doing silly instagram posts talking shit etc). Dorian did it, while others cried he was hiding out in England all year, "not promoting bodybuilding". He just isn't quite good enough to win so far. Sure he got screwed by being beaten by Cutler etc but if he shows up the clear winner physique-wise he could theoretically do it. What charisma did Cutler have? Not much. Who is charmismatic these days? Phil is a child throwing tantrums and acting insecure... he was almost in tears talking back and forth with Kai at the press conference. :D
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I think it's possible to win without much balonie acting out (aka embarrassing himself doing silly instagram posts talking shit etc). Dorian did it, while others cried he was hiding out in England all year, "not promoting bodybuilding". He just isn't quite good enough to win so far. Sure he got screwed by being beaten by Cutler etc but if he shows up the clear winner physique-wise he could theoretically do it. What charisma did Cutler have? Not much. Who is charmismatic these days? Phil is a child throwing tantrums and acting insecure... he was almost in tears talking back and forth with Kai at the press conference. :D
Yeah you have a good point and I see your reasoning. I was just reacting to the video and the way Ramy was so impassive, he hardly said a word or even changed his facial expression just that blank stare and those silly earphones glued to his head. Phil is very dislikable the way he keeps trying to score points on twitter but he is reasonably articulate and definitely not short of opinions!
I personally hope Kai comes in top condition and wins the crown, would shake things up and invigorate the sport a bit with a new face and add some much needed intrigue into the IFBB.
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Ramy destroying Phil in every area except calves and forearms...
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Do you think Nichols or Aceto could fix Ramy's "water" problems? I don't think so, they
don't work miracles or change someone's genetics. Look at Cerdic at his last show, far from
in tip-top shape and he had Aceto coaching him. Plus Ramy doesn't have a major water problem anyway, basically in the same shape as Phil in those pics, maybe a tiny bit smoother from the back, in certain areas. It's genetics mostly.
The best coach is the one who is the best fit psychologically, where they trust eachother and the coach can motivate the athlete.
IMO, for Ramy to come in noticeably harder he would probably have to lose 20-30lbs and they aren't ready to lose that much size for a 2% difference in conditioning.
I know Ahmad Ahmad a little bit, spoke to him as he was leaving for Kuwait to prep the last month before the O at Oxygen gym. Here he is with Ramy. Interesting to see if he hits his best shape yet prepping there. 8)
ahmad ahmad is an awesome 212 bber,great shape/balance..
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Two percent difference in conditioning? Doubtful, but even so, without trying to get there he is going to be left as shit on a shingle. The judges will give you a couple of years to try to dial it in, after that you are written off as a perennial 5th placer.
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But he does make Phil look so small in some poses.
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/big-ramy-destroy-phil-heath-1024x739.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0Uz3alz.jpg%C2%A8)
He destroys Phil and if he doesn't win this year than fuck the IFBB and their fixed fuckery
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He destroys Phil and if he doesn't win this year than fuck the IFBB and their fixed fuckery
Go away, you're just angry because of Phil's comment about Ahnuld's toothpicks
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Go away, you're just angry because of Phil's comment about Ahnuld's toothpicks
shut up Queer ::)
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shut up Queer ::)
Stop drinking, Donna
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Stop drinking, Donna
poor little Queer :'(
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Yeah you have a good point and I see your reasoning. I was just reacting to the video and the way Ramy was so impassive, he hardly said a word or even changed his facial expression just that blank stare and those silly earphones glued to his head. Phil is very dislikable the way he keeps trying to score points on twitter but he is reasonably articulate and definitely not short of opinions!
I personally hope Kai comes in top condition and wins the crown, would shake things up and invigorate the sport a bit with a new face and add some much needed intrigue into the IFBB.
Is this real life?
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Is this real life?
So Kai wins the Mr. Olympia. Then how long before there are a couple of main stream stories that shatter bodybuilding even further by revealing to the general public what anyone on the Internet and interested in bodybuilding knows after about 5 minutes in the Thunderdome ?
Mr. Olympia's Gay Porn Past. NY Daily News would run it. It just being gay isn't the issue it being G4P porn is. Zero chance Kai will ever win the O.
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I've seen dexter bench 365 for reps... But his spotter had his hands on the bar
It didn't look like Dexter needed help
Oh, you're quite right. And I saw him bench 405 for 5 (?) in one of his training videos. I don't think anyone was touching the bar, either.
My only point was that if a smaller-boned, much lighter guy can bench that, I'd be surprised if Ramy didn't move 405 the way he did/does.
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Ha! And according to this, it was Stalin: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Stalin
I must have heard the historian speaking about his comments. It was a Military Channel special on the "Top 10 Battle Tanks of all time"
HAD to have been Stalin, even if he [almost assuredly] stole the quote from one of his generals. Lenin knew next to nothing military, let alone about tank warfare...tank warfare only came into its own in WW2, by which time Lenin had been dirt-napping for quite awhile.
As I said earlier in the thread, 100 inferior products will beat 10 outstanding ones. In war, industrial capacity, mobility and speed are *everything*. People get hung up on per-unit firepower and armor because they've watched too much damned Star Trek and cops-and-robbers shows.
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Oh, you're quite right. And I saw him bench 405 for 5 (?) in one of his training videos. I don't think anyone was touching the bar, either.
My only point was that if a smaller-boned, much lighter guy can bench that, I'd be surprised if Ramy didn't move 405 the way he did/does.
Pretty much most of the top pros can do 405, if not only for a few reps
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Go away, you're just angry because of Phil's comment about Ahnuld's toothpicks
Go jerk off to your waddling marshmallow hero's you delusional schmoe
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Ramy is not particularly aesthetic. His legs overpower everything else.
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Go jerk off to your waddling marshmallow hero's you delusional schmoe
^^
Says Ahnuld's worcockshipping uberschmoe...
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So Kai wins the Mr. Olympia. Then how long before there are a couple of main stream stories that shatter bodybuilding even further by revealing to the general public what anyone on the Internet and interested in bodybuilding knows after about 5 minutes in the Thunderdome ?
Mr. Olympia's Gay Porn Past. NY Daily News would run it. It just being gay isn't the issue it being G4P porn is. Zero chance Kai will ever win the O.
Chris Dickerson was openly gay when he won it in 1982. Where were all the news stories back then?
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Looks like a good gym to train in but poor old Ramy doesn't have much charisma! That is the real obstacle holding him back from that illusive title of MR O. He's just not got that intangible it factor the kingmakers behind the scenes will be looking for. Poor bugger just stares like some modern day ogre, red headphones stuck to his head secluding him even further from his audience.
You do realize that a guy, nicknamed "The Shadow", won SIX Sandows?
And what about all the "charisma" of Zane, Bannout, Dickerson, or Jackson?
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Ramy does 110 pound dumbbell flyes and benches 4 plates per side. Phil does 3 plates on hammer strength press and is huffing and puffing.
(http://s15.postimg.org/xjbwkyb23/Screen_Shot_2015_08_17_at_11_25_58_AM.png)
(http://s30.postimg.org/x0x54kqs1/Screen_Shot_2015_08_17_at_11_28_17_AM.png)
Didn't do Ramy much good.
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Didn't do Ramy much good.
But his shit condition had nothing to do with how much weight he lifted. Pound for pound, still has more muscle than Phil and better muscle quality probably from lifting actual weight. He just needs to dial it in.
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But he does make Phil look so small in some poses.
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/big-ramy-destroy-phil-heath-1024x739.jpg)
Phil looks really weird in FDB. I think he would look better if he kept his legs straighter like Big Ramy rather than doing the shmoe-y spread-eagle thing.
These are my thoughts.
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Phil looks really weird in FDB. I think he would look better if he kept his legs straighter like Big Ramy rather than doing the shmoe-y spread-eagle thing.
These are my thoughts.
Hulkotron, you are a wise man. I agree with you.
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pretty amazing the lack of size and muscularity in ramys forearms for being a high caliber ifbb pro :-\
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But his shit condition had nothing to do with how much weight he lifted. Pound for pound, still has more muscle than Phil and better muscle quality probably from lifting actual weight. He just needs to dial it in.
My point being that poundage doesn't equate to Sandows. Being the strongest guy around means nothing in BB. Phil has 5 titles and counting. Rami will be lucky to get 1.
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My point being that poundage doesn't equate to Sandows. Being the strongest guy around means nothing in BB. Phil has 5 titles and counting. Rami will be lucky to get 1.
True, but we all like hard working bodybuilders like Dorian and Ronnie. That is the point I was trying to make.
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True, but we all like hard working bodybuilders like Dorian and Ronnie. That is the point I was trying to make.
Agreed.
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True, but we all like hard working bodybuilders like Dorian and Ronnie. That is the point I was trying to make.
Not exactly true. When bbers lift insane heavy weights, many criticize for their stupidity and injuries waiting to happen, when bbers lift light, they are criticized for being lazy, all drugs, not hard working
Can't win either way, the same can be said for bbers that slim down when retired or decide to stay big but have been retired also
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Not exactly true. When bbers lift insane heavy weights, many criticize for their stupidity and injuries waiting to happen, when bbers lift light, they are criticized for being lazy, all drugs, not hard working
Can't win either way, the same can be said for bbers that slim down when retired or decide to stay big but have been retired also
Well, when they train like Branch, they are criticized.
No one ever criticized Dorian for his work ethic. Ronnie was criticized AFTER he had a billion surgeries.
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Well, when they train like Branch, they are criticized.
No one ever criticized Dorian for his work ethic. Ronnie was criticized AFTER he had a billion surgeries.
His 'bloods & guts' is still inspiring to watch.
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Well, when they train like Branch, they are criticized.
No one ever criticized Dorian for his work ethic. Ronnie was criticized AFTER he had a billion surgeries.
True but then they blamed it all on his heavy lifting that led up to the injuries :D
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what are you trying to prove?
fedorov is a mess, he looks like patchwerk from world of warcraft
yeah hes humongous but not in a good way. all torn up and nothing fits together
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/6/67/Patchwerk.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100221020412)
ramy on the other hand has awesome structure, taper, flow (yeah yeah quads too big, gtfo) with insane mass. he just needs to dial it in FOR ONCE.
heath is narrow and looks like a cricket next to heath