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Title: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Method101 on September 02, 2015, 02:37:53 PM
What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

(http://2tkc6i3txfou476alr1so1qk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2014/09/lorenzo-orozco4.jpg)
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 02, 2015, 02:53:23 PM
Natty with decent genetics and work ethics can do better...
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Method101 on September 02, 2015, 02:55:02 PM
Natty with decent genetics and work ethics can do better...
You are delusional if you think you can get better than this without drugs, what do you think is the limit then, post an example.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: DHEA-100 on September 02, 2015, 03:04:17 PM
Casey Viator 19yrs old 100% natural won (4) major contests.  He could have gone further had he not run afoul of Arthur Jones.  He was fired at Nautilus, moved to socal to train w/ Mentzer.  Got on like 2gr/day of sh$% and never amounted to anything after that.

Steroids don't work.  All hype!!!
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Method101 on September 02, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
Casey Viator 19yrs old 100% natural won (4) major contests.  He could have gone further had he not run afoul of Arthur Jones.  He was fired at Nautilus, moved to socal to train w/ Mentzer.  Got on like 2gr/day of sh$% and never amounted to anything after that.

Steroids don't work.  All hype!!!
You base him being natural on being 19 years old? he wouldn't be the first one to get on juice as a teenager, Arnold and Lee Priest look as if they were probably on juice from 16 years old.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Tennisballz on September 02, 2015, 03:13:47 PM
What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

(http://2tkc6i3txfou476alr1so1qk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2014/09/lorenzo-orozco4.jpg)
whats his height and weigh as thats usually the true test?  I would think you would need very good genetics to look like that naturally. But for the blessed I suppose it may be possible.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: ritch on September 02, 2015, 03:22:36 PM
that is totally possible natural.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Method101 on September 02, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
whats his height and weigh as thats usually the true test?  I would think you would need very good genetics to look like that naturally. But for the blessed I suppose it may be possible.
Height : 5'11
Weight : 195

According to species website, I'm guessing that is his exaggerated general day weight rather than stage/photoshoot weight. So we could say that he's probably under or around 190lbs in the picture.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 02, 2015, 03:39:22 PM
Casey Viator 19yrs old 100% natural won (4) major contests.  He could have gone further had he not run afoul of Arthur Jones.  He was fired at Nautilus, moved to socal to train w/ Mentzer.  Got on like 2gr/day of sh$% and never amounted to anything after that.

Steroids don't work.  All hype!!!

in these pics Casey is juiced big time, test. deca, D bol-  im sure
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 02, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
Height : 5'11
Weight : 195

According to species website, I'm guessing that is his exaggerated general day weight rather than stage/photoshoot weight. So we could say that he's probably under or around 190lbs in the picture.

This guy is 6'2" and weighed 185 in this pic.

Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 02, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

(http://2tkc6i3txfou476alr1so1qk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2014/09/lorenzo-orozco4.jpg)

this guy in this pic could be drug free but NO WAY is he lifetime natural
he has used b4

btw he has some sort of toupe or hair transplant
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: SF1900 on September 02, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
Watching getbiggers argue about if someone is natural is like staring at a wall.

Both get you nowhere.  :D :D
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Uncle Joon on September 02, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

(http://2tkc6i3txfou476alr1so1qk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2014/09/lorenzo-orozco4.jpg)

The guy in the picture is juiced to the gills. Any fool can see he is running 6-7 different compounds at least. I can personally spot the GH/Tren and Masteron he's got going on from a mile away.
What you see in the picture is more or less impossible for 98% of the population naturally.
Forget about.
Another dellusionite  
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 02, 2015, 04:08:45 PM
The vascularity in his delts are obvious signs of drug use.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: absfabs on September 02, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
The guy in the picture is juiced to the gills. Any fool can see he is running 6-7 different compounds at least. I can personally spot the GH/Tren and Masteron he's got going on from a mile away.
What you see in the picture is more or less impossible for 98% of the population naturally.
Forget about.
Another dellusionite  

UNless you use the Adonis principles?
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Dave D on September 02, 2015, 04:55:32 PM
Casey Viator 19yrs old 100% natural won (4) major contests.  He could have gone further had he not run afoul of Arthur Jones.  He was fired at Nautilus, moved to socal to train w/ Mentzer.  Got on like 2gr/day of sh$% and never amounted to anything after that.

Steroids don't work.  All hype!!!

Hulksmash  glad you're still spreading the gospel.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: ritch on September 02, 2015, 07:19:14 PM
This guy is 6'2" and weighed 185 in this pic.



That's your example??? It's like saying there's 2 cars, they both have a set of wheels and a steering wheel...

I knew this moron who was as tall as Arnold and would say "I weight the same as him, so I'm as good as him"

Bitch please!!!

Serge Nubret was 200lbs at 6 feet tall. How come when I weighed 200lbs I did not look like that, lol???
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: SquidVicious on September 02, 2015, 07:37:44 PM
I used to train with Jeff Rodriguez in SF and he was natural and better built than this guy.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-50u8cylLorc/VWa_ATwsRzI/AAAAAAAAO9w/ihsbv7XXaTQ/s1600/JeffRodriguez.jpg)
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: ritch on September 02, 2015, 07:40:01 PM
I used to train with Jeff Rodriguez in SF and he was natural and better built than this guy.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-50u8cylLorc/VWa_ATwsRzI/AAAAAAAAO9w/ihsbv7XXaTQ/s1600/JeffRodriguez.jpg)

The pic looked cool until I saw the thong sticking out. For fuck sakes man... Way to gay shit up. Something the likes of Kai Green there...
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: calfzilla on September 02, 2015, 11:25:49 PM
The pic looked cool until I saw the thong sticking out. For fuck sakes man... Way to gay shit up. Something the likes of Kai Green there...

Maybe he's just trying to appeal to women  :-\
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: local hero on September 03, 2015, 12:01:07 AM
I used to train with Jeff Rodriguez in SF and he was natural and better built than this guy.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-50u8cylLorc/VWa_ATwsRzI/AAAAAAAAO9w/ihsbv7XXaTQ/s1600/JeffRodriguez.jpg)


Looks like the kind'a guy who would be welcomed with open arms around certain docks, in Rwanda....
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: trapz101 on September 03, 2015, 12:32:48 AM
I used to train with Jeff Rodriguez in SF and he was natural and better built than this guy.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-50u8cylLorc/VWa_ATwsRzI/AAAAAAAAO9w/ihsbv7XXaTQ/s1600/JeffRodriguez.jpg)

LOL jrod used to post here and got ripped..admitted of juicing if i'm not mistaken
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: BigRo on September 03, 2015, 12:45:29 AM
Can get bigger as a natural if your genetically large to begin with. Also this condition is obtainable naturally.

Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on September 03, 2015, 03:19:30 AM
Always the juicers who say something is "easily achievable naturally".  ;D
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Meaningless on September 03, 2015, 03:28:12 AM
Possible natural, anyone who says otherwise has obviously never given natty training and dieting a good honest go for any decent amount of time.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: da_vinci on September 03, 2015, 03:29:02 AM
No. Most probably this is low doses, prop, mast... Or at least in the past.

And I generally just don't get the point of getting in this condition as a natural and having a photoshoot... why not just throw in a few var candies or some shit just to make it easier for a potographer. I'm sure anyone in thei sane mind would do the same, instead of trying to rape body beyond it's limits.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: devilsmile on September 03, 2015, 03:36:42 AM
getbiggers have a weird concept of what "natural" means. getbiggers even use terminology like "natty dosages"... what the fuck is "natty dosage".

 Lustral said that he only uses compensatory dosages, LMAO, it's another way of saying that "I don't have to fear over training or under feeding and I have an incredible advantage compared to someone who's only training arsenal is oatmeal and boiled eggs"

some of you probably would still consider yourselves natural if you didn't take steroids but you would alter your genetic make up :D
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 03, 2015, 03:52:40 AM
getbiggers have a weird concept of what "natural" means. getbiggers even use terminology like "natty dosages"... what the fuck is "natty dosage".

 Lustral said that he only uses compensatory dosages, LMAO, it's another way of saying that "I don't have to fear over training or under feeding and I have an incredible advantage compared to someone who's only training arsenal is oatmeal and boiled eggs"

some of you probably would still consider yourselves natural if you didn't take steroids but you would alter your genetic make up :D


Then you have the guys in between cycles claiming natural.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: ritch on September 03, 2015, 03:56:08 AM
Those of you who think that is on gear must have very weak physiques. That is 100% possible. I could easily beat that. Easily.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 03, 2015, 03:56:55 AM
getbiggers have a weird concept of what "natural" means. getbiggers even use terminology like "natty dosages"... what the fuck is "natty dosage".

 Lustral said that he only uses compensatory dosages, LMAO, it's another way of saying that "I don't have to fear over training or under feeding and I have an incredible advantage compared to someone who's only training arsenal is oatmeal and boiled eggs"

some of you probably would still consider yourselves natural if you didn't take steroids but you would alter your genetic make up :D


You have to be Irish to understand why Lustral and Bigro do that.

To an Irishman, not drinking means you're only drinking beer.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Papper on September 03, 2015, 04:03:57 AM
What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

(http://2tkc6i3txfou476alr1so1qk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2014/09/lorenzo-orozco4.jpg)

Inregards to this fella right here,,,you are fooling yourselves friends. as usual,,,this IS the last time LAST TIME I offer my service to this boarding,,, listen this fella is on more substance than highly advance cancer pateint,,,trenbolona and gh up to his chin,,and this he is on beforre he brush teeth everyday,,I dont have more time PM me for truth

Gh15 approved
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Yamcha on September 03, 2015, 04:06:11 AM
First, photo is shopped
Second, picture is homo
Third, my source confirm that he has taken multiple prohormones and made "mad gainz" bro. Blackstone Labs of Peace.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 03, 2015, 04:07:09 AM

Looks like the kind'a guy who would be welcomed with open arms around certain docks, in Rwanda....

 :-\
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: devilsmile on September 03, 2015, 04:08:52 AM
Those of you who think that is on gear must have very weak physiques. That is 100% possible. I could easily beat that. Easily.

k.

You have to be Irish to understand why Lustral and Bigro do that.

To an Irishman, not drinking means you're only drinking beer.

LMAO I get that :D.

Then you have the guys in between cycles claiming natural.

they are comedians for sure
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: _aj_ on September 03, 2015, 04:12:25 AM
These threads are hilarious. Who cares if he's on or not? I trained for 30 years natty and now I am on TRT dosages. One thing that didn't change is that you have to work hard. Notwithstanding Heath's apparent laziness in the gym, gear or not, it's hard to get in that kind of shape, so props to him.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 03, 2015, 04:52:15 AM
These threads are hilarious. Who cares if he's on or not? I trained for 30 years natty and now I am on TRT dosages. One thing that didn't change is that you have to work hard. Notwithstanding Heath's apparent laziness in the gym, gear or not, it's hard to get in that kind of shape, so props to him.

Back in the Getbig day, GH15 said that guys on GH tend to have a lethargic look to them.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: dj181 on September 03, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
Inregards to this fella right here,,,you are fooling yourselves friends. as usual,,,this IS the last time LAST TIME I offer my service to this boarding,,, listen this fella is on more substance than highly advance cancer pateint,,,trenbolona and gh up to his chin,,and this he is on beforre he brush teeth everyday,,I dont have more time PM me for truth

Gh15 approved

very good ;D
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: mazrim on September 03, 2015, 06:49:47 AM
LOL jrod used to post here and got ripped..admitted of juicing if i'm not mistaken
He should come back. Maybe Squid can get him too. I liked him but don't believe he is natural.
He never admitted to using, though, which I don't really care that much.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Anna Recksiek on September 03, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

(http://2tkc6i3txfou476alr1so1qk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2014/09/lorenzo-orozco4.jpg)
If you get that lean naturally you're not gonna have delts like that.
The closest you can get to this naturally is if you're 18 or 19 years old, a true ectomorph who hasn't lifted previously and just started hitting the weights hard while trying to figure out your diet.
You can grow into that from skinny but not diet down to that without something to spare the muscle.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: ritch on September 03, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
You guys are aware his upper arm is not much bigger than his lower, right?  So he has a strong point, chest/shoulders. Big deal. A few stand out body parts is now gateway to being accused of being on gear, lol...

Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: _aj_ on September 03, 2015, 12:48:38 PM
You guys are aware his upper arm is not much bigger than his lower, right?  So he has a strong point, chest/shoulders. Big deal. A few stand out body parts is now gateway to being accused of being on gear, lol...

We nit-pick. It's what we do.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 03, 2015, 01:38:42 PM
You are delusional if you think you can get better than this without drugs, what do you think is the limit then, post an example.
(http://i.imgur.com/OHp79nC.jpg)
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Method101 on September 03, 2015, 03:50:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/OHp79nC.jpg)
That is not an ancient greek statue that was made in modern times, and of course even the ancient greeks would exaggerate themselves when they formed statues.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: tommywishbone on September 03, 2015, 09:23:40 PM
that is totally possible natural.

Agreed.  Dude's thin but cut.  The picture is shopped too, shading and contrast.  Dude weighs 175 absolute max.

That's a whopping 16" arm. Dudes pec are a full 3/4" thick. His vascularity is that of any common heroin addict. He's a runt that diets and workouts.

Anyone that is convinced that he's running gear simply needs to quit lifting weights forever. You are already defeated by your own mental limitations.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 03, 2015, 09:24:42 PM
I used to train with Jeff Rodriguez in SF and he was natural and better built than this guy.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-50u8cylLorc/VWa_ATwsRzI/AAAAAAAAO9w/ihsbv7XXaTQ/s1600/JeffRodriguez.jpg)

NO WAY in hell is this fella lifetime natural

screams all drugs
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Coffeed on September 03, 2015, 09:27:48 PM
That is not an ancient greek statue that was made in modern times, and of course even the ancient greeks would exaggerate themselves when they formed statues.
If you think they exaggerated so much, then please, take a close look.

Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: pellius on September 04, 2015, 12:39:14 AM
Casey Viator 19yrs old 100% natural won (4) major contests.  He could have gone further had he not run afoul of Arthur Jones.  He was fired at Nautilus, moved to socal to train w/ Mentzer.  Got on like 2gr/day of sh$% and never amounted to anything after that.

Steroids don't work.  All hype!!!

Hello, Hulk-Smash
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Method101 on September 04, 2015, 12:53:49 AM
If you think they exaggerated so much, then please, take a close look.


His dick doesn't hang lower than his balls so he can't be a 5%er.
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: Jizmo on September 04, 2015, 01:26:26 AM
and not a single natty was posted in this thread

except the greek statue lol
Title: Re: This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion
Post by: oldgolds on September 04, 2015, 09:23:43 AM
Man ...You are so naive....The guy is a stinkin liar....Don't you understand, once you start taking steroids, you become a liar.