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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stormcloud on September 16, 2015, 11:17:02 AM
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Lee Thompson is launching a new division called NPC Global. Seems like NPC wants to now go international. and NPC Texas promoter Lee is in charge of this new division.
"We are building a COMMUNITY for the 21st CENTURY! Presentation is not only a requirement for the; It's how we SHOWCASE your hard work and efforts! Shine on the most POPULAR, POPULOUS and PRESTIGIOUS physique events in the world! Don't be AFRAID to require more of opportunity, more branding and a shared economy. Come ONE...Come ALL!"
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Rather than go overseas why don't they fix what is already broken at home!!!
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some shows have hundreds of entries, some thousands. It's working. Many BBing fans don't like the things like mens physique, but so many dudes can just diet for a month and enter, it's very popular.
I like the idea of taking it global. Everything else is. Whatever brings more attention/dollars to the sport will grow the things that we BBing fans like.
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from another forum:
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Videoclip: https://www.facebook.com/thompsonmusclecontest/videos/vb.149382805075768/1211540982193273/?type=2&theater
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:o :o
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Just called 817 913 7351 and let him know he's not important enough for Keith to save his name in his contacts list.
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if this is an *althletes union* with collective agreements and so on that would be a very important development
I hear some talk about revenue sharing but when the site goes live we'll have to have a good look at it
:)
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Just called 817 913 7351 and let him know he's not important enough for Keith to save his name in his contacts list.
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Suddenly Lee Thompson is the moral authority? Ha!
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The IFBB pretty much has a monopoly on bodybuilding. Obviously, the competitors are free to compete in the IFBB or not. But lets be realistic, where else are bodybuilders going to go to make a living? They are sort of pigeon-holed into the IFBB, and the IFBB knows this and takes advantages of them.
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WOW! A kick in the nuts of Manion. This is big.
Its not true until Goodrum confirms it. :D :D
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How is this organization going to survive when trying to compete against the IFBB? The pay days are not going to be nowhere near as much as the IFBB.
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How is this organization going to survive when trying to compete against the IFBB? The pay days are not going to be nowhere near as much as the IFBB.
I'm sure these questions have been addressed. Do you know who Lee Thompson is? I'm sure Mr. Manion is ecstatic. lol
I wish Mr. Thompson the best and props for thinking outside the box and doing something else. Competition is good for bodybuilding although I'm sure some within the IFBB may think otherwise.
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I'm sure these questions have been addressed. Do you know who Lee Thompson is? I'm sure Mr. Manion is ecstatic. lol
I wish Mr. Thompson the best and props for thinking outside the box and doing something else. Competition is good for bodybuilding although I'm sure some within the IFBB may think otherwise.
I don't "know" him, but I have obviously heard his name countless times.
Well, even if the pay day is the same, the Mr. Olympia is still regarded as the superbowl of bodybuilding. Maybe Lee's organization will have a similar event. even if it does, it will take quite a while before it catches up to the Mr. O title.
We shall see.
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I don't "know" him, but I have obviously heard his name countless times.
Well, even if the pay day is the same, the Mr. Olympia is still regarded as the superbowl of bodybuilding. Maybe Lee's organization will have a similar event. even if it does, it will take quite a while before it catches up to the Mr. O title.
We shall see.
Having at least two organizations is good for several reasons. It makes the IFBB/AMI get off their stale asses and put something on worth seeing or fans and athletes will go elsewhere for starters.
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wbf anyone
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Didn't Wayne Demilia try this same thing with the PDI in 2006? And how did that end? I hope Thompson is prepared for a war with the IFBB. I don't see many (or any) IFBB pros switching to this NPC Global since they'll get their IFBB pro card revoked and risk this new org falling apart and ending up like Lee Priest. I guess he has Kai on his side since he's mentioned him a couple times in the video, but it seems Kai's burned some bridges already with the IFBB, so for him this might be a good move (though I, myself, don't believe so).
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Come on guys, you don't think Lee and anyone involved hasn't thought through WBF and PDI? If we can easily do that here I'm sure they've thought of and overcome any objections they can think of. Why would NPC global need the current pros when you can redefine what a pro is and how they look with new athletes. It's refreshing. I would take none from the IFBB to start a new league in terms of Men's pro bodybuilding. I'd start with a clean slate.
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Having at least two organizations is good for several reasons. It makes the IFBB/AMI get off their stale asses and put something on worth seeing or fans and athletes will go elsewhere for starters.
At the end of the day it all comes down to one thing, and and one thing only: MONEY.
Whatever organization gives out the best cash prizes is where the athletes will go. People will put up with the bullshit of the IFBB if they are going to pay more. And wherever the most popular athletes go, the fans will follow. Money talks, bullshit walks.
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At the end of the day it all comes down to one thing, and and one thing only: MONEY.
Whatever organization gives out the best cash prizes is where the athletes will go. People will put up with the bullshit of the IFBB if they are going to pay more. And wherever the most popular athletes go, the fans will follow. Money talks, bullshit walks.
In this case, I think that because so many people (fans and athletes) are sick and tired of the politics, antics and lack of transparency in the IFBB something new that's ALLEGEDLY based on opposite of that will drive current athletes to at least try if they figure they have nothing to lose and most of them have nothing to lose because not too many are doing well directly from the IFBB anyway.
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Come on guys, you don't think Lee and anyone involved hasn't thought through WBF and PDI? If we can easily do that here I'm sure they've thought of and overcome any objections they can think of. Why would NPC global need the current pros when you can redefine what a pro is and how they look with new athletes. It's refreshing.
Because the IFBB has a huge majority of the talent. NABBA never became dominant because the NABBA pros will switch to the NPC and try for the IFBB pro card because the talent pool is much higher and they want better competition. Going from the NPC to a no-name organization is like going down a notch. Sure it may be easier to get a pro card, but you didn't earn it competing with the best. Instead of starting new organizations these top officials need to step up and fix the IFBB. Otherwise we have a bunch of disjointed small orgs that all suck.
Think American football, the NFL is the dominant professional org, hockey is the NHL, baseball is the MLB, etc... You don't have 100 pro leagues who are all successful. One will always dominate and that's going to attract the best talent.
The IFBB is already here, its already established. Fix what we have so everyone (including the athletes) wins!
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The revenue sharing is a very good thing. I never liked how your pictures and likeness could be used for so little. The guys and dolls didn't have too many other choices though.
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The revenue sharing is a very good thing. I never liked how your pictures and likeness could be used for so little. The guys and dolls didn't have to many other choices though.
I'm 100% in agreement with this. And IMO instead of starting this NPC Global, he should have used whatever pull he had to try and make it happen within the IFBB. And if he failed at that he could come out and say "This is what I tried doing, but the IFBB pushed back and we lost." Then its up to the fans/athletes to pressure the IFBB to make changes with whatever means required (boycotting, sending letters/emails, etc...).
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Because the IFBB has a huge majority of the talent. NABBA never became dominant because the NABBA pros will switch to the NPC and try for the IFBB pro card because the talent pool is much higher and they want better competition. Going from the NPC to a no-name organization is like going down a notch. Sure it may be easier to get a pro card, but you didn't earn it competing with the best. Instead of starting new organizations these top officials need to step up and fix the IFBB. Otherwise we have a bunch of disjointed small orgs that all suck.
Think American football, the NFL is the dominant professional org, hockey is the NHL, baseball is the MLB, etc... You don't have 100 pro leagues who are all successful. One will always dominate and that's going to attract the best talent.
The IFBB is already here, its already established. Fix what we have so everyone (including the athletes) wins!
I hear what you're saying brotha but it's clear that even Lee Thompson can't get whomever to come together so these things have to happen. It'll force the IFBB to step with in terms of money and everything else. IFBB will never agree to fix itself as long as the current leadership is in charge and others like minded.
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the bar has been set pretty low so it shouldn't take much to attract membership
As for sponsorship the best strategy would be to work with new partners who aren't entrenched in the existing system
like a video featuring texasbubba ( or his brohter ) with soft lighting and background music is not really persuasive in this regard. It would be nice to see some specific details. :D
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the bar has been set pretty low so it shouldn't take much to attract membership
As for sponsorship the best strategy would be to work with new partners who aren't entrenched in the existing system
like a video featuring texasbubba ( or his brohter ) with soft lighting and background music is not really persuasive in this regard. It would be nice to see some specific details. :D
Sign up! I did 8)
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Didn't Lee post here as texasbubba? :D
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Didn't Lee post here as texasbubba? :D
http://muscleandbrawn.com/the-lee-thompson-npcifbb-cover-up-continues-sexual-harassment/
8)
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In this case, I think that because so many people (fans and athletes) are sick and tired of the politics, antics and lack of transparency in the IFBB something new that's ALLEGEDLY based on opposite of that will drive current athletes to at least try if they figure they have nothing to lose and most of them have nothing to lose because not too many are doing well directly from the IFBB anyway.
I agree with this statement, in the sense that many pros are doing shit competing at the IFBB and are most likely struggling, so they may try to compete at Lee's organization.
Guys like Phil Heath, Branch Warren, Shaun Rhoden, Big Ramy are not going anywhere, UNLESS Lee's organization offers a HUGE incentive to them.
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Where is the money coming from for this thing?
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wbf anyone
Exactly. It seems that Paul Dillett's organization is growing. And the Muscle Model competitors are quality.
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They've already began deleting threads regarding the new organization on MD. LOL!
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They've already began deleting threads regarding the new organization on MD. LOL!
Wiggs, is MD only pro-IFBB, and no other organization?
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Bodybuilders need to wake up.
Unless you're in the top 5 at the Mr Olympia you're literally losing money to gain "exposure" that the IFBB provides. The internet is better and cheaper than the IFBB in today's world.
I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if the IFBB collapsed because the top has been screwing the athletes for too long.
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Can't wait to hear from Bob Chick about this situation...If this division takes off, Lee Thompson should bring in completely new blood in the form of MC's etc and shut the old out completely...
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So is Lee Thompson still an ifbb judge? If so how is he allowed to create his own organization
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There are literally thousands of fitness chicks and bikini broads and mens fitness types that another organization could diff/work. You could literally have a show once a month and hundreds of these people will show up to compete. Lee Thompson should keep Lee Priest as far away from this new org as possible. Lee Priest is cursed and everything he touches turns to shit...
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So is Lee Thompson still an ifbb judge? If so how is he allowed to create his own organization
He left the IFBB to do this so he is no longer a judge.
I have a feeling there will be more interesting announcements after the Olympia.
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He left the IFBB to do this so he is no longer a judge.
I have a feeling there will be more interesting announcements after the Olympia.
Wow! This is great. Hopefully t will be ran professionally. This is a good time to do it since the IFBB is in transition. Hardly any star power and the old guys hanging it up
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Come on guys, you don't think Lee and anyone involved hasn't thought through WBF and PDI? If we can easily do that here I'm sure they've thought of and overcome any objections they can think of. Why would NPC global need the current pros when you can redefine what a pro is and how they look with new athletes. It's refreshing. I would take none from the IFBB to start a new league in terms of Men's pro bodybuilding. I'd start with a clean slate.
Good points Wiggs and I totally agree........new blood and a new standard of a top build would do wonders to help reinvigorate the dying monopolized sport of bodybuilding.
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I'm confused is this an offshoot of the NPC or something completely different.
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I'm confused is this an offshoot of the NPC or something completely different.
Something totally different. He owns the legal rights to the name NPC Texas
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Come on guys, you don't think Lee and anyone involved hasn't thought through WBF and PDI? If we can easily do that here I'm sure they've thought of and overcome any objections they can think of. Why would NPC global need the current pros when you can redefine what a pro is and how they look with new athletes. It's refreshing. I would take none from the IFBB to start a new league in terms of Men's pro bodybuilding. I'd start with a clean slate.
^^THIS
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Wiggs, is MD only pro-IFBB, and no other organization?
LOL. It seems that way man. I was in on some threads and those threads are no longer there. Someone called it before though over there saying it would be deleted.
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Something totally different. He owns the legal rights to the name NPC Texas
Hmmmmm interesting! He also promotes phils big show. What does that mean?
I say go for it. They have a chance to really make the changes people have been talking about. They should also reach out to Arnold. The IFBB certainly doesn't seem to respect or value his input anymore
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Honestly, what prof IFBB bodybuilder is loyal to the IFBB other than the top 2-3? (And then I have to say not even #2!)
They canceled the women BB so you lose that.
They pay jack shit. Years ago Arnold wanted to pay more and they didn't even let him. So he had to give away watches and cars and shit.
If you're outside the top 6 at the Arnold the payday drops to 2 THOUSAND dollars. That's travel expenses.
So really, how hard would it be to pull these guys away from the IFBB? Give them just a taste of profit sharing and cut the bullshit with increased prize money comments because it's going to other areas and the top 3 bodybuilding slots -- not the general bodybuilding competition field. They get hosed.
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the IFBB appears to be in complete disarray
time for the hyenas to pounce
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the IFBB appears to be in complete disarray
time for the hyenas to pounce
Well now things are making more sense. I did not believe that booth story because no new business would make such stupid demands. So the IFBB lied about that
Could it be that Kai is not being allowed to compete because they figured out he's going to be aligned with this new venture?
This is getting good!
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Come on guys, you don't think Lee and anyone involved hasn't thought through WBF and PDI? If we can easily do that here I'm sure they've thought of and overcome any objections they can think of. Why would NPC global need the current pros when you can redefine what a pro is and how they look with new athletes. It's refreshing. I would take none from the IFBB to start a new league in terms of Men's pro bodybuilding. I'd start with a clean slate.
As long as there is no bodybuilders like Rhino, and more like Simeon Panda, Ulisses, Mike O'Hearn, and that dude with the beard.
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Well now things are making more sense. I did not believe that booth story because no new business would make such stupid demands. So the IFBB lied about that
Could it be that Kai is not being allowed to compete because they figured out he's going to be aligned with this new venture?
This is getting good!
Yes I believe you are on the right track, sounds about right to me. However I would assume it manifests and pressure from sponsors not strictly the IFBB. That would explain the action "behind the scenes" claims.
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Yes I believe you are on the right track, sounds about right to me. However I would assume it manifests and pressure from sponsors not strictly the IFBB. That would explain the action "behind the scenes" claims.
Bye, bye IFBB?
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Bye, bye IFBB?
;D
more like NPC/IFBB pro league are having trouble squashing dissent lately
will be interesting to see what happens
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Thompson is going to need deep pockets to make this take off. He's no dummy but he's going to need a marketing titan.
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Thompson is going to need deep pockets to make this take off. He's no dummy but he's going to need a marketing titan.
I think he will do pretty well because he's been practicing for a while. His shows in Texas are huge. Phils show is packed. Lee understands marketing. I don't think I would work with him though bc he strikes me as shady
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Its not true until Goodrum confirms it. :D :D
Wrote an article about it on Anabolic Mayhem. You should visit it sometime. ;D
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Seems a bit strange that "NPC GLOBAL" is the name of this 'international federation".
NPC stands for National Physique Committee, so it's somewhat odd to call it NPC GLOBAL unless it has some form of affiliation with the NPC here within the USA.
Many years ago when the big meeting was held in which the NPC and the IFBB became affiliates, both parties agreed that the NPC would run amateur Bodybuilding Contests within the US and the IFBB would only run professional bodybuilding contests within the US but would continue to run both amateur and professional contests outside of the US.
So unless some major changes have been made it does appear that Mr Thompson is setting up this new organization without an NPC/IFBB affiliation.
Just a bit surprised that he is using "NPC" without some form of legal battle.
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;D
more like NPC/IFBB pro league are having trouble squashing dissent lately
will be interesting to see what happens
There are other organizations coming out, or already out with slick production, and quality competitors--Like Paul Dillett's organization and MuscleMania. Add in the physique models and YouTube sensations who make money, but don't compete. And the fact that the quality of physiques has gone downhill, due to the judges, and the competitors are not making that much money, so that they are coming out with their own supp lines. And then there is the lack of transparency, and long term corruption.
I believe that the IFBB deserves everything it gets now.
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Texas, ny, nv and Cali are the strongest states in the NPC and Tx is beyond loyal to Lee. This org will succeed under his leadership. Forget demillia.....man was a horrible girl when it came to the "athletes". Thompson is a decent enough guy as far the talent goes and he's smart as far as faces in this sport go. Cheers to Lee.
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ARNOLD SHOULD BE THE HONORARY PRESIDENT OF THIS NEW ORGANIZATION !!! ;)
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Lee Thompson knows where the money is in putting on contest, the NPC part of the shows brings in all the $$. Hell even Lee Priest can compete here. :D
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why does a guy who formed a bodybuilding federation look like shit? You would think being surrounded by bodybuilding/fitness all the time you would at least be lean.
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why does a guy who formed a bodybuilding federation look like shit? You would think being surrounded by bodybuilding/fitness all the time you would at least be lean.
Yes. Same for the NFL and MLB commissioners. Do they even lift?
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Did you hear that Lincoln was shot? Rumor has it there's a reward to catch the murderers.
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he should start a 212 class with lee priest in there lol!
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Seems a bit strange that "NPC GLOBAL" is the name of this 'international federation".
NPC stands for National Physique Committee, so it's somewhat odd to call it NPC GLOBAL unless it has some form of affiliation with the NPC here within the USA.
Many years ago when the big meeting was held in which the NPC and the IFBB became affiliates, both parties agreed that the NPC would run amateur Bodybuilding Contests within the US and the IFBB would only run professional bodybuilding contests within the US but would continue to run both amateur and professional contests outside of the US.
So unless some major changes have been made it does appear that Mr Thompson is setting up this new organization without an NPC/IFBB affiliation.
Just a bit surprised that he is using "NPC" without some form of legal battle.
im guessing NPC was used because it already has some sort of branding thing to it legality is very questionable though
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Just called 817 913 7351 and let him know he's not important enough for Keith to save his name in his contacts list.
This got me!!
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Lee Haney posted some interesting thoughts on facebook. He's sticking up for Kai which is interesting to me. Hmmmm. I think something is a brewing
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Lee Haney posted some interesting thoughts on facebook. He's sticking up for Kai which is interesting to me. Hmmmm. I think something is a brewing
hmmm.
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AESTHETICS, Yes, i think that there will be some legal issues regarding the use of "NPC"within the NPC GLOBAL nomenclature.
And it took Joe Weider thousands of years (exaggeration) and hundreds of international PO Boxes (another exaggeration) throughout the world (actual fact) and one hell of a lot of individuals everywhere to get the IFBB
organized and on its feet.
And the IFBB association with the NPC really was a feather in his cap which caused a vast amount of dissention (spelling) among the likes of 99% of everyone involved within the world of bodybuilding and everything else that required the lifting of heavy things (excluding piano and refrigerator movers of course).
As already proven by the WEIDERS the creation of any international sports federation requires big bucks and even bigger participants and officials to get it grounded and on its feet, unless, of course, the present international IFBB officials held some grudge which would encourage them to join Lee Thompson in this endeavor.
And I cannot foresee anyone attempting to build up such an international organization unless he/she already was assured of backing a full cooperation from those within the game today.
It will be interesting to see that the OLY crowd has to say about this situation this weekend.
Maybe even Lee Thompson himself.
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good!!! I hope a slow and painful death to the IFBB and Jim Manion et company who have ruined it over the years...death to the old regime!!!
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1:55 in this video is as if it was some sort of parody troll used car salesman video. Talking on the phone in the video. LMFAO...Who produced this video, Caliper Fitness?
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http://generationiron.com/judge-leaves-ifbb-to-start-own-league-due-to-kai-greene-situation/
Interesting... Can it succeed? I like the idea, but can it break the total monopoly the IFBB/NPC has?
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Vinny Mac was unable to accomplish this feat.
Suspect Lee Thompson will struggle as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/0AwzUbF.gif)
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Vinny Mac was unable to accomplish this feat.
Suspect Lee Thompson will struggle as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/0AwzUbF.gif)
Best thing going for the new competition is what the old competition hasn't done: gotten better.
What year did Vince launch that? Was it when ESPN was still showing bodybuilders?
Also, in today's world what honestly is the value of being labelled "IFBB pro?" It's so diluted. 2 decades ago it meant something. Today, it's just another revenue stream. If competitors were smart they would trade their IFBB membership for 5,000 twitter followers and probably make more money.
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Nspire Physique Community Global
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Don't forget the PDI (Pro Division)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=71837.0
If Wayne DeMilla couldn't do it...
https://www.getbig.com/iview/demilia060413.htm
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Lee Thompson is launching a new division called NPC Global. Seems like NPC wants to now go international. and NPC Texas promoter Lee is in charge of this new division.
"We are building a COMMUNITY for the 21st CENTURY! Presentation is not only a requirement for the; It's how we SHOWCASE your hard work and efforts! Shine on the most POPULAR, POPULOUS and PRESTIGIOUS physique events in the world! Don't be AFRAID to require more of opportunity, more branding and a shared economy. Come ONE...Come ALL!"
COME THONGED WARRIORS!!!! COME FOLLOW LEE!!
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AESTHETICS, Yes, i think that there will be some legal issues regarding the use of "NPC"within the NPC GLOBAL nomenclature.
And it took Joe Weider thousands of years (exaggeration) and hundreds of international PO Boxes (another exaggeration) throughout the world (actual fact) and one hell of a lot of individuals everywhere to get the IFBB
organized and on its feet.
And the IFBB association with the NPC really was a feather in his cap which caused a vast amount of dissention (spelling) among the likes of 99% of everyone involved within the world of bodybuilding and everything else that required the lifting of heavy things (excluding piano and refrigerator movers of course).
As already proven by the WEIDERS the creation of any international sports federation requires big bucks and even bigger participants and officials to get it grounded and on its feet, unless, of course, the present international IFBB officials held some grudge which would encourage them to join Lee Thompson in this endeavor.
And I cannot foresee anyone attempting to build up such an international organization unless he/she already was assured of backing a full cooperation from those within the game today.
It will be interesting to see that the OLY crowd has to say about this situation this weekend.
Maybe even Lee Thompson himself.
Yep. I believe this guy has the backing of major players because why else do it? Things are different now in many ways. More money and investors. I am really surprised to see Haney defending the way Kai was treated which tells me there's more to the story
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Lee is well educated and he's far from dumb. He's just a shady ass dude, IMO. Former/alleged ::) juice dealer, sexist, etc. I'm not disparging his character, because I actually wish him luck in this endeavor. Lord knows our industry needs the competition. I have a hard time trusting his type. That's all. Either way, good luck, LT.
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Best thing going for the new competition is what the old competition hasn't done: gotten better.
What year did Vince launch that? Was it when ESPN was still showing bodybuilders?
Also, in today's world what honestly is the value of being labelled "IFBB pro?" It's so diluted. 2 decades ago it meant something. Today, it's just another revenue stream. If competitors were smart they would trade their IFBB membership for 5,000 twitter followers and probably make more money.
I had to look it up but it was 1991/1992 when the "WBF" was around.
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First of all, Wayne is/was a major, epic POS. I'm glad he didn't succeed.
Second, Wayne didn't have mens physique and bikini to float.
Third, LT is no where near the POS Wayne is...
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Is Kai doing the O? I've been at Disney, catching up on news now.
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I remember Jack RHINO London making his mark in the 2006-ish years.
He was one of the top names in BBing that year.
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How come Vince G hasn't chimed in on this subject?
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Is Kai doing the O? I've been at Disney, catching up on news now.
nope
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why does a guy who formed a bodybuilding federation look like shit? You would think being surrounded by bodybuilding/fitness all the time you would at least be lean.
When I used to attend contests I would see judges that looked like they never exercised a day in their lives.
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Don't forget the PDI (Pro Division)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=71837.0
If Wayne DeMilla couldn't do it...
https://www.getbig.com/iview/demilia060413.htm
Now is the time to do it...There are so many different classes now. Men's fitness and Women bikini could be a whole show.
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Manion to immediately put the word out to all competitors that if they go to the "nPc" they will never be allowed to compete in his organization in 3...2....1........ ::)
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So many people have asked me this question, because they sound alike. Well, they are not, so please lets understand that. Even this morning, I am getting a lot of questions emailed and asked. Here is some letters from the various people that may explain more.
Freedom of Choice, I SAY NO
Lee Thompson claims competitors have the freedom of choice to compete in his new Organization, NOT SO !!! Lee Thompson is actually deceiving competitors with confusion of a 40 year established brand ( NPC National Physique Committee) for his own personal gain.
Lee Thompson should let competitors make that choice on their own, instead of deceiving competitors by using NPC Global in the hopes he can gain NPC competitors to his non-established Organization, that currently does not even really exist. If he has confidence in his own abilities, then why did he not create a business plan, with clear lines between each brand, and then and only then will competitors have the real “freedom of choice” he talks so much about.
Lee Thompson does have the right to pursue his own business, but why not build a Organization on trust, honesty, real choice, transparency of separation between NPC (National Physique Committee) and NPC Global. Why not stand up like a real entrepreneur ( as he claims over & over ) and call it something else, anything else. Clear up the deception and let the competitors make that choice on
their own.
He claims he built the largest NPC Event in 2015, giving no credit to Phil Health…the name of the show, which Phil Health was also his partner in that event. He also gave zero credit to the largest amateur Organization ( NPC National Physique Committee) to draw competitors from, including a 40 year infrastructure to support that Event. Do you think 5X and current Mr Olympia Phil Health’s name on that event had some influence on the success of the show, including the help of the NPC-USA...or was it all Lee Thompson ? He claims it was all Lee Thompson.
If he has a new direction of change, I am sure Lee Thompson should be able to stand alone and succeed on his own brand, rather than use a brand he did not create, but was established through hard work by Mr. Jim Manion (NPC). One thing Lee Thompson will never have, is the history of the NPC / IFBB and the opportunity to stand on stage with the best in the world. The “real” NPC / IFBB competitors want to follow in the footsteps of the the best athletes in the world. For some it is to be the best they can be, for others it is to stand on the Olympia stage and be considered one of the best competitors in the world. Lee Thompson can’t buy that and he can’t steal it… it can only happen in the NPC / IFBB
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How do you feel about it, Ronaldo?
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I do not know why you would use the same name as the organization you are leaving. It was very confusing and I'm sure the NPC will be pursuing legal action
I do think there needs to Be another game in town but this seems to have some major issues off the bat
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Copycat Of Peace
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Trish and Branch warren also had various issues with Lee
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The IFBB is just as bad as perhaps Lee Thompson is. No difference. Both only care about one thing: Money.
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How do you feel about it, Ronaldo?
I chose a long time ago (20+ years ago) to be a part of the NPC / IFBB, and to this day, I still am 100%. There are always trials and tribulations in any business and organizations (does not matter what type of industry), but I am fortunately enough to be able to shoot 30+ shows a year, plus many of of friends of in this industry.
For business, we display our booths at various NPC / IFBB events, and many of our customers go to the biggest events (especially the Olympia Weekend). There are other organizations, but for me, with so many contests just in the West Coast, the best of the best are here.
I have no problem with someone starting anything. I do have a problem with someone trying to confuse people. It is not cool. The NPC is the premier amateur organization in the USA for bodybuilding, figure, physique, bikini.
I remember how irked I was when people from this board tried to make their own boards using the Getbig name and adding an extention to it. Pretty not cool. So yes, I think it is bull.
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Trish and Branch warren also had various issues with Lee
Branch sucking up to the IFBB--now we know why he was top 6, despite looking atrocious.
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So I can start Coke Global tomorrow, or Apple Computers Global, or NFL Global and I'll be OK?
Any lawyer that attended one day of law school should be able to shut down this idiot.
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Branch sucking up to the IFBB--now we know why he was top 6, despite looking atrocious.
No, Branch telling it like it is for him. He doesnt have to suck up at all. While you didn't like the way Branch looked on stage, many others did. By the way, point blank, Branch is one of the most respectful competitors in our business.
Always takes time to meet with fans, always is cool with reporters and photographers. I actually told him backstage that he was one of the most respectful competitors that day, and he replied - "I always treat people the way I want to be treated". That is a class act.
The Olympia this year was awesome for me, but I am freaking tired. I got there Thursday early morning, and didn't come back until Monday.
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Phil Heath writing about himself in the 3rd person. Lol.
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I hope NPC Global brings back the 70-90(early) Bodybuilding..
No more Mr.Gutlympia please.. :-[ :-[
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No, Branch telling it like it is for him. He doesnt have to suck up at all. While you didn't like the way Branch looked on stage, many others did. By the way, point blank, Branch is one of the most respectful competitors in our business.
Always takes time to meet with fans, always is cool with reporters and photographers. I actually told him backstage that he was one of the most respectful competitors that day, and he replied - "I always treat people the way I want to be treated". That is a class act.
The Olympia this year was awesome for me, but I am freaking tired. I got there Thursday early morning, and didn't come back until Monday.
Really? Who else liked the way he looked? Judges gave him a huge gift. Of course people in the IFBB liked the way he looked. They always do. No matter how shitty he looks, he always gets placed high, despite having a disgusting physique. Whoever thinks he has a good physique needs to have their eyes checked.
This is horrendous.
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Hey, Ron, Thanks for this great topic!
It's probably the most interesting thing happening within the bodybuilding world right now which probably means that I'm more interested in 'running' things rather than entering things.
But now that I am retired I merely sit back and read and listen and find a lot of interest in what the majority of today's bodybuilding fans seem to know almost absolutely nothing about.
I got a lot to say and some GetBiggers hate reading too many words, so I'll do my best to keep this simple and break it into more than a couple of entries with he hope that some muscle-head fans will get a better understanding of where the World of Bodybuilding presently stands today and who it was who led the way.
Actually "those who led the way" actually "fought their way" all the way to the top (or where ever it is that we stand today).
So I'm gonna do my best to start at the bottom and most likely fight with some of you GetBiggers as we proceed.
I'm gonna start in the 1950's when the AAU (Amateur Athletic Union) was the only real bodybuilding sanctioning organization within the USA and most no-one knew anything about competition among bodybuilders.
But most of those who did know ..... thought that it was pretty damn stupid.
So it's pretty damn evident that some things never change
no matter how many years fly by.
A. The AAU Days ........ and absence of loyalty.
I'll continue this with Ron's blessing ...... Or start another topic if ron suggests to do so.
I'm most likely one of the last remaining few who actually was an active participant within the game of lifting heavy things since a guy name Charles Atlas advertised in comic books.
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What was the controversy about when Lee posted as texasbubba here a few years ago, I forget.
Didn't he get busted for drugs?
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VAN, I think you are referring to this.....
NPC Texas Chairman Lee Thompson Indicted on Federal Steroid Conspiracy Charges
June 2, 2009
Does anyone know the outcome of those charges?
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Really? Who else liked the way he looked? Judges gave him a huge gift. Of course people in the IFBB liked the way he looked. They always do. No matter how shitty he looks, he always gets placed high, despite having a disgusting physique. Whoever thinks he has a good physique needs to have their eyes checked.
This is horrendous.
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I,ve nothing against him as a person, I can believe he is a good man. I do object to his physique being so highly awarded when it is past its prime just because hes Branch.
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I chose a long time ago (20+ years ago) to be a part of the NPC / IFBB, and to this day, I still am 100%. There are always trials and tribulations in any business and organizations (does not matter what type of industry), but I am fortunately enough to be able to shoot 30+ shows a year, plus many of of friends of in this industry.
For business, we display our booths at various NPC / IFBB events, and many of our customers go to the biggest events (especially the Olympia Weekend). There are other organizations, but for me, with so many contests just in the West Coast, the best of the best are here.
I have no problem with someone starting anything. I do have a problem with someone trying to confuse people. It is not cool. The NPC is the premier amateur organization in the USA for bodybuilding, figure, physique, bikini.
I remember how irked I was when people from this board tried to make their own boards using the Getbig name and adding an extention to it. Pretty not cool. So yes, I think it is bull.
I think competition is good for business but using the NPC name is low brow.
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Really? Who else liked the way he looked? Judges gave him a huge gift. Of course people in the IFBB liked the way he looked. They always do. No matter how shitty he looks, he always gets placed high, despite having a disgusting physique. Whoever thinks he has a good physique needs to have their eyes checked. This is horrendous.
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he was hard and in shape, not like many other competitors. And that should be rewarded
Lee thompsons seems like a snake, just stealing the npc name should be a big red flag for those that wants in
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he was hard and in shape, not like many other competitiors. And that should be rewarded
Lee thompsons seems like a snake, just stealing the nåc name should be a big red föag for those that wants in
Hard and in shape should only get rewarded when its accompanied with a complete package. Actually, did you see his back? It was not hard and in shape and conditioned. It was watery.
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competition is always a good thing. npc/ifbb have no doubt had it all their own way for too long. probably be good for the sport if another fed can establish itself.
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There is no way branch should have beat Roelly or Bonac. Both of those guys deserved to be higher. branch looked terrible. it's time for him to move on. They've got some great new guys to cheer for. This is part of the problem. The judges refuse to let these guys move on
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Hard and in shape should only get rewarded when its accompanied with a complete package. Actually, did you see his back? It was not hard and in shape and conditioned. It was watery.
well i agree that he is often placed better then he deserves but i rather see the judges place a guy that is hard and dry before someone who is born with great genetics and just comes in like steve cuckhold shape.
To be hon3dt no im not a schmle i have only seen his front pics. I did go after how he usually looks so my fault about this comp if he did cam3 in watery....
But i will not say im sorry. So go fuck some milfs big tittys
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Branch has good conditioning. The problem is nobody wants to look like him.
But the judges care about a different set of criteria. Aesthetics... is that on the score card?
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Do any of these people realize that by calling this out that they are admitting their own guilt? By staying silent that means they allowed the contest fixing and all the rest of the shenanigans to go on. Plus he was an IFBB judge. He knows where the bodies are buried....so before they all go self righteous they may want to think about that
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Suddenly Lee Thompson transformed into the devil after 10 years service in the highest positions at the NPC. :o
Branch knows how to serve his masters, congrats you got 6th place bro!
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I expect the NPC to file some sort of lawsuit against the use of its name.
Just a matter of time.
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Really don't see what the real NPC can do. The acronym stands for something different. I see the similarities obviously. Lee used the loophole to his advantage. Although I agree with him starting a new organization, I disagree with the use of the name. It was a slimy move.
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Suddenly Lee Thompson transformed into the devil after 10 years service in the highest positions at the NPC. :o
Branch knows how to serve his masters, congrats you got 6th place bro!
Exactly. Biggest kiss ass to the IFBB. And they rewarded him with 6th place.
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Really don't see what the real NPC can do. The acronym stands for something different. I see the similarities obviously. Lee used the loophole to his advantage. Although I agree with him starting a new organization, I disagree with the use of the name. It was a slimy move.
You can bet the NPC has done slimy things too.
They just got a taste of their own medicine. Oh well.
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JUDGING STANDARDS FROM THE RULES: SYMMETRY, SHAPE, MUSCULARITY, CONDITIONING
JUDGING STANDARDS FROM THE IFBB: LOYALTY, FREE GUEST POSINGS, DEDICATION, ASS-KISSING
Branch jumped 9 points between the prejudging and the night show by far more than any other competitor. Check his tweets between those two events and see if they correlate to his bump in placing.
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Really don't see what the real NPC can do. The acronym stands for something different. I see the similarities obviously. Lee used the loophole to his advantage. Although I agree with him starting a new organization, I disagree with the use of the name. It was a slimy move.
The World Wildlife Fund sued the World Wrestling Federation over the initials WWF and won.
I expect this can be very similar.
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It was funny when thompson posted here alot of shit and when he was outed he blamed his brother in law haha
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he was hard and in shape, not like many other competitiors. And that should be rewarded
Lee thompsons seems like a snake, just stealing the nåc name should be a big red föag for those that wants in
Yes, he was in shape, and yes it was hard. It is hard to describe his shape.
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Aren't these bodybuilding brands "non profits"?
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The World Wildlife Fund sued the World Wrestling Federation over the initials WWF and won.
I expect this can be very similar.
One was a non profit and the other was not...It's interesting how long the World Wildlife Fund allowed it to go on before going after their trademark...
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Yes, he was in shape, and yes it was hard. It is hard to describe his shape.
Gnomelike comes to mind! ;D
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One was a non profit and the other was not...It's interesting how long the World Wildlife Fund allowed it to go on before going after their trademark...
I recall them saying it was because the WWF decided to branch outside of the US. When they stayed in the US, no problem, but when they became a larger brand, The World Wildlife Fund got a little uppity.
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NPC Global has NOTHING to do with the National Physique Committee!? Well, shit! Sign me up right now!!!
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I,ve nothing against him as a person, I can believe he is a good man. I do object to his physique being so highly awarded when it is past its prime just because hes Branch.
999x total gift top 6 in the world.... Realllllyyyyy???
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So I can start Coke Global tomorrow, or Apple Computers Global, or NFL Global and I'll be OK?
Any lawyer that attended one day of law school should be able to shut down this idiot.
This... Legally I don't see how this can go on. He's using the NPC name to do a similar thing for himself
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999x total gift top 6 in the world.... Realllllyyyyy???
This. He's a mâché of melting and torn muscles lol. How did he place ahead of bonac?
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The WWF comparison doesn't fit since Lee Thompson is not using just NPC, but rather adding a word to it. And that's not semantics; it's a major difference.
All of the blowing going on - during Olympia Weekend, no less - is fuckin' comical. When did we ever hear a pro thank the NPC for everything that they have in life? If Thompson was not a threat to their monopoly, then these pros would have been talking about their Super Bowl instead. Scripted, no doubt.
And now that Bodybuilding.com has signed on with NPC Global, it seems the first 'defector' is a major one. They got screwed with the O webcast and also have a bunch of NPC/IFBB athletes tied to them. What will happen with these people?
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About Branch placing 6th. That is a low placing for him. From what I have seen over the last decade the judges assume everyone is huge, etc., so they separate the guys via conditioning because that is something they can assess. That is where the shredded glutes are exposed. No one has ever mentioned that Ronny Coleman has extra long glutes but to me they are not aesthetic. The judges have abandoned the criteria a long time ago.
There is no transparency in the NPC. All judges' results should be published. Whoever is picking the judges should be sacked. Ditto for the dude who suggested physique competitors wear board shorts!
What a bunch of stooges the NPC officials and judges are. This organization is a business not a sporting organization. The people running it cannot be removed so who are they responsible to?
We can see that Ron appreciates his press passes so we can assess what he posted here accordingly.
Every year controversy. This year we had Kai not competing. That wasn't good for bodybuilding or the fans.
Lee Thompson is just another businessman who is going nowhere. Nobody messes with the IFBB-NPC.
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Yes, he was in shape, and yes it was hard. It is hard to describe his shape.
lål
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The World Wildlife Fund sued the World Wrestling Federation over the initials WWF and won.
I expect this can be very similar.
They didn't win...the WWE just didn't give a shit. They can still use the WWF logo for merchandising and other branding related to the era including throwback shows
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I think competition is good for business but using the NPC name is low brow.
Lee Thompson is renowned for his lowbrow tactics.
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Lee Thompson is renowned for his lowbrow tactics.
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If you had mentioned this two weeks ago, you'd have been de-modded. Courageous fellow you are.
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If you had mentioned this two weeks ago, you'd have been de-modded. Courageous fellow you are.
Not at all.
I was one of the few guys that years ago was against Lee Thompson for coming onto this forum and trying to change the ways in which we run things. I never held back anything I had to say to Lee. I also helped in pointing out some of the questionable judging practices he has. Let's not even call them questionable practices, let's call it the "practice of fixing things".
His past is well documented around these parts. Whether I am courageous or not, that's a matter of opinion.
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Not at all.
I was one of the few guys that years ago was against Lee Thompson for coming onto this forum and trying to change the ways in which we run things. I never held back anything I had to say to Lee. I also helped in pointing out some of the questionable judging practices he has. Let's not even call them questionable practices, let's call it the "practice of fixing things".
His past is well documented around these parts. Whether I am courageous or not, that's a matter of opinion.
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With Branch placing 6th, it looks like much has not changed in that regard.
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With Branch placing 6th, it looks like much has not changed in that regard.
I think Shawn Rhoden should have won.
I also believe that there should be a better way to determine who the Mr. Olympia truly is. I think the fans should have a vote (American Idol style), along with a panel of judges that is ideally comprised mostly of former Olympia winners and contestants and a few other industry figureheads.
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I think Shawn Rhoden should have won.
I also believe that there should be a better way to determine who the Mr. Olympia truly is. I think the fans should have a vote (American Idol style), along with a panel of judges that is ideally comprised mostly of former Olympia winners and contestants and a few other industry figureheads.
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That would be cool
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ONE MORE, That (audience vote) was tried many years ago at a contest that was held in Anaheim,California (Disneyland Hotel if I recall correctly) and for some forgotten reason it didn't work well and was put to rest.
I think that it proved that the audience could not care less ..... as long as their kid, friend, family member won the title.
Tim might be able to recall who that promoter was. His intent was good but it failed to work.
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I think Shawn Rhoden should have won.
I also believe that there should be a better way to determine who the Mr. Olympia truly is. I think the fans should have a vote (American Idol style), along with a panel of judges that is ideally comprised mostly of former Olympia winners and contestants and a few other industry figureheads.
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I think it should be like at Beauty pageants. Some bodybuilding experts like former Mr olympias, maybe not a lot of former competitors because if they don't like a guy that could be bad. Then they could have some regular people like maybe an athlete. Then have women as well. I think they judge the bikini contest by who is most hit table...why not do that for the men? I bet posing and presentation would improve. People like Steve Kuclo and Roelly would also get higher scores. LOL
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This may have been mentioned earlier .... but what does "NPC" stand for
within this 'GLOBAL' organization"?
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ONE MORE, That (audience vote) was tried many years ago at a contest that was held in Anaheim,California (Disneyland Hotel if I recall correctly) and for some forgotten reason it didn't work well and was put to rest.
I think that it proved that the audience could not care less ..... as long as their kid, friend, family member won the title.
Tim might be able to recall who that promoter was. His intent was good but it failed to work.
I'm curious to know why the "popular vote" was removed.
I think if you give the audience a say (you can even have fans call in), it will reduce the complaints that point to the contest being fixed.
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ONE MORE, I can't say why it was not continued within NPC sanctioned contests, but back then a good number of high end night clubs held male and female contests in which the winners were determined by the audience, none of which were ever sanctioned by any organization that I am aware of.
Some clubs here in LV promote various body events whereby the winner receives a decent amount of cash. None are sanctioned of course unless you want to say that the nightclub sanctioned it.
Judging criteria varies but some cash awards are 'awarded' based on the number of fans you bring into the club.
And no matter how a contest winner is determined, the 'fixed factor accusation' will always be there.
There are always more 'losers' in a bodybuilding contest. The winners never complain, but the losers tend to find some 'plot' that the judging staff has against them.
And most "plots' seem to be political or sexually inspired.
In this respect ... nothing has changed within the world of bodybuilding competitions since the very beginning when David got pissed and killed Goliath with a stone.
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They didn't win...the WWE just didn't give a shit. They can still use the WWF logo for merchandising and other branding related to the era including throwback shows
The WWE didn't want to deal with a litigation they knew they would lose.
That's completely different than "not giving a shit".
They settled... Let's not forget that. THEY gave up their branding rights. The World Wildlife Fund gave up NOTHING.
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Not at all.
I was one of the few guys that years ago was against Lee Thompson for coming onto this forum and trying to change the ways in which we run things. I never held back anything I had to say to Lee. I also helped in pointing out some of the questionable judging practices he has. Let's not even call them questionable practices, let's call it the "practice of fixing things".
His past is well documented around these parts. Whether I am courageous or not, that's a matter of opinion.
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What's your opinion on the number one bodybuilding site Bb.com signing on with NPC Global?
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SNOMAN, I'm pretty darn surprised about a lot of things that are happening and to the best of my knowledge the NPC/IFBB have made no official comments about the subject matter.
Here are the main things that surprise me:
1. Why would anyone with some knowledge of the business world create a possible problem for himself by picking a name for his new endeavor that is so similar to a name which is similar to a competitor within the same business unless a lawyer suggested that similar name for his own financial gains.
I don't know if "NPC" is a registered 'trademark' simiar to the title "Coca~Cola" but it appears to be something like PEPsI starting a new cola business called Coca~Cola Global.
The above sounds like a topic for HARLEY to offer comments on if he can so so at a reasonable price ... or less.
2. I am not aware of any problems between the NPC/IFBB and BB.com if one does in fact exist, but it appears that problems do in fact exist if BB.com is in support of NPC GLOBAL.
But I am not aware of any benefits derived from that NPC/IFBB - BB.com association so I find it difficult to see if any possible conflict between both parties will be harmful for either one or both of them.
But if a problem does in fact exist .... it would be a surprise to me if BB.com refused to report the results of future NPC/IFBB events or whatever else BB.com does on behalf of the NPC/IFBB regardless of any problems between both parties.
Has there been any official word about this situation?
Maybe Ron can clarify the above. Isn't Getbig.com associated with BB.com in some manner?
3. I personally find it difficult to believe that anyone can start up a global bodybuilding "business' without the help and support of a hell of a lot of people who are in some way already a ready, willing, and able part of that business within the bodybuilding world
No businessman in his right mind would attempt to do so without a hell of a lot of experienced, local and international support ..... unless he is 'bluffing' in an attempt to cause problems within the ranks.
Maybe the IFBB will offer an official comment soon .... or simply avoid adding fuel to the fire by saying nothing at all and let it burn itself out.
But then we GetBiggers wouldn't be able to blame Mrs. Murphy's cow while those of us who simply don't give a damn could simply watch and play the fiddle.
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SNOMAN, I'm pretty darn surprised about a lot of things that are happening and to the best of my knowledge the NPC/IFBB have made no official comments about the subject matter.
Here are the main things that surprise me:
1. Why would anyone with some knowledge of the business world create a possible problem for himself by picking a name for his new endeavor that is so similar to a name which is similar to a competitor within the same business unless a lawyer suggested that similar name for his own financial reasons.
I don't know if "NPC" is a registered 'trademark' simiar to the title "Coca~Cola" but it appears to be something like PEPsI starting a new cola business called Coca~Cola Global.
The sounds like a topic for HARLEY to offer comments on.
2. I am not aware of any problems between the NPC/IFBB and BB.com if one does in fact exist, but it appears that problems do in fact exist if BB.com is in support of NPC GLOBAL.
But I am not aware of the benefits derived from that NPC/IFBB - BB.com association so I find it difficult to see if any conflict between both parties will be harmful between either one or both of them.
But it would be a surprise to me if BB.com refused to report the results of future NPC/IFBB events regardless of any problems between both parties.
Has there been any official word about this situation?
Maybe Ron can clarify this.
3. I personally find it difficult to believe that anyone can start up a global bodybuilding "business' without the help and support of a hell of a lot of people who are in some way already a part of that business.
No businessman in his right mind would attempt to do so without a hell of a lot of local and international support ..... unless he was 'bluffing' in an attempt to cause problems within the ranks.
Maybe the IFBB will offer an official comment soon .... or simply avoid adding wood to the fire by saying nothing at all and let it burn itself out.
You can tell Lee Thompson just by that video he put out is a slimy snake oil salesman...My guess is he is hoping to get it off the ground with the NPC name and get enough people behind it that by the time it goes through the courts, he'll just change the name...
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Thompson owns the NPC Texas trademark so the new TX chairpersons the Parisos are more likely infringing on his trademark by launching their Real NPC Texas branding efforts. It will get ugly and there will be blood. A certain NY IFBB Official is already spreading tales of Lee's infidelity but he should be careful about opening that door because it swings both ways.
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SNOMAN, I'm pretty darn surprised about a lot of things that are happening and to the best of my knowledge the NPC/IFBB have made no official comments about the subject matter.
Here are the main things that surprise me:
1. Why would anyone with some knowledge of the business world create a possible problem for himself by picking a name for his new endeavor that is so similar to a name which is similar to a competitor within the same business unless a lawyer suggested that similar name for his own financial gains.
I don't know if "NPC" is a registered 'trademark' simiar to the title "Coca~Cola" but it appears to be something like PEPsI starting a new cola business called Coca~Cola Global.
The above sounds like a topic for HARLEY to offer comments on if he can so so at a reasonable price ... or less.
2. I am not aware of any problems between the NPC/IFBB and BB.com if one does in fact exist, but it appears that problems do in fact exist if BB.com is in support of NPC GLOBAL.
But I am not aware of any benefits derived from that NPC/IFBB - BB.com association so I find it difficult to see if any possible conflict between both parties will be harmful for either one or both of them.
But if a problem does in fact exist .... it would be a surprise to me if BB.com refused to report the results of future NPC/IFBB events or whatever else BB.com does on behalf of the NPC/IFBB regardless of any problems between both parties.
Has there been any official word about this situation?
Maybe Ron can clarify the above. Isn't Getbig.com associated with BB.com in some manner?
3. I personally find it difficult to believe that anyone can start up a global bodybuilding "business' without the help and support of a hell of a lot of people who are in some way already a ready, willing, and able part of that business within the bodybuilding world
No businessman in his right mind would attempt to do so without a hell of a lot of experienced, local and international support ..... unless he is 'bluffing' in an attempt to cause problems within the ranks.
Maybe the IFBB will offer an official comment soon .... or simply avoid adding fuel to the fire by saying nothing at all and let it burn itself out.
But then we GetBiggers wouldn't be able to blame Mrs. Murphy's cow while those of us who simply don't give a damn could simply watch and play the fiddle.
Bodybuilding.com got fucked with the Olympia webcast. The promoters asked for triple the amount this year and they balked. Then a short time later they are the title sponsor at NPC Global's first show. Just connecting the dots, it seems as if BBing.com - a monster entity - felt slighted by the attempted shake down and bailed.
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I don't think they are afraid of the new federation. I think they are afraid of Lee letting people know where the bodies are buried. With all these people coming out against him, they are making themselves look just as guilty because they knew what was going on and did nothing. In fact, they continued to promote shows with him and be affiliated with him and he was supposed to be the worst guy ever. Right. He wasn't the only one doing shady stuff and if they piss him off enough I bet it's going to start coming out.
That's why they got all their superstars to come out singing for the IFBB. They are afraid of the shitstorm that will occur should LEe decide to sing.
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I'm curious to know why the "popular vote" was removed.
I think if you give the audience a say (you can even have fans call in), it will reduce the complaints that point to the contest being fixed.
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Yes, you fix one bias (contests being fixed), but you introduce another bias if you let the fans vote, i.e., fans will vote for who they like best, not who has the best physique.
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Why is Kai in Lee's video?
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Now we know why Pecker gave out an extra 100G to the winner of the OLympia. Would have been smarter giving the winner 50G more and split up the other 50g among the top 6.
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Now we know why Pecker gave out an extra 100G to the winner of the OLympia. Would have been smarter giving the winner 50G more and split up the other 50g among the top 6.
Seriously! phil was the only one that got a raise....
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Did an interview with Lee Thompson & I will be posting the article soon. Even the stuff that was 'on the record' is huge, let alone the topics that we spoke about off the record. I gave him my word as a journalist that those subjects shall remain off but holy fuckin' shit, guys. This is going to be something that can totally change the industry.
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Now we know why Pecker gave out an extra 100G to the winner of the OLympia. Would have been smarter giving the winner 50G more and split up the other 50g among the top 6.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Now we know why Pecker gave out an extra 100G to the winner of the OLympia. Would have been smarter giving the winner 50G more and split up the other 50g among the top 6.
Why?
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Did an interview with Lee Thompson & I will be posting the article soon. Even the stuff that was 'on the record' is huge, let alone the topics that we spoke about off the record. I gave him my word as a journalist that those subjects shall remain off but holy fuckin' shit, guys. This is going to be something that can totally change the industry.
Damn looking forward to this one Joe!
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Seriously! phil was the only one that got a raise....
Or give some of that to the 212 guys. The top 6 looked really good.
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This may have been mentioned earlier .... but what does "NPC" stand for
within this 'GLOBAL' organization"?
Nspire Physique Championship
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I think Shawn Rhoden should have won.
I also believe that there should be a better way to determine who the Mr. Olympia truly is. I think the fans should have a vote (American Idol style), along with a panel of judges that is ideally comprised mostly of former Olympia winners and contestants and a few other industry figureheads.
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I had him first after the prejudging. He lost ground for the evening show. Though I am not a fan of him personally, I think Dex should have won.
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Would love to hear Lee Thompson sing
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And so it begins.
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;D
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I had him first after the prejudging. He lost ground for the evening show. Though I am not a fan of him personally, I think Dex should have won.
the scorecard had for the (pre) judging:
Heath - 6 pts
Rhoden - 10 pts
Wolf - 15 pts
Jackson - 16 pts
Elssbiay - 26 pts
Winklaar - 29 pts
then for the night show
Heath - 5 pts
Jackson - 10 pts
Rhoden -17 pts
Wolf - 18 pts
Waren - 27 pts
Elssbiay - 28 pts
So the judges thought Heath was best both times
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And so it begins.
I had nothing to do with Lee being threatened....not that he should feel safe neither
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Yes, you fix one bias (contests being fixed), but you introduce another bias if you let the fans vote, i.e., fans will vote for who they like best, not who has the best physique.
But determining who has the best physique is an incredibly subjective decision.
I am partial to physiques that have semblance to what Bob Paris brought to the table. I am not a fan of Phil Heath's physique.
I think if you give the fans a say, coupled with having a judging panel of veteran bodybuilders, we can arrive at that happy medium.
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this all looks like something out of a Tarentino/Rodriguez type of production where all of the characters involved have not one redeeming moral quality about them yet all are fighting against some perceived injustice lol
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Change the name to GPC (Global Physique Competition) or something like that so there's no confusion. There should be another kid on the block, IFBB is slowly becoming the dinosaur that didn't evolve.
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But determining who has the best physique is an incredibly subjective decision.
I am partial to physiques that have semblance to what Bob Paris brought to the table. I am not a fan of Phil Heath's physique.
I think if you give the fans a say, coupled with having a judging panel of veteran bodybuilders, we can arrive at that happy medium.
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There is an objective part to the judging process. What we need is valid criteria and judges competent and unbiased to separate the competitors.
The audience should have no say except for applause. They are not experts nor qualified judges.
I told the story about Ted Matush winning Mr Australia 4 times in the one evening, which included audience applause. Audiences should never judge bodybuilding in my opinion.
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Change the name to GPC (Global Physique Competition) or something like that so there's no confusion. There should be another kid on the block, IFBB is slowly becoming the dinosaur that didn't evolve.
I'm convinced Lee named it NPC Global because his social media name is NPCTexas and he probably didn't want to change it to GPCTexas or whatever other initials they considered. He mentioned in that first video he released that his social media name will remain the same.
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There is an objective part to the judging process. What we need is valid criteria and judges competent and unbiased to separate the competitors.
The audience should have no say except for applause. They are not experts nor qualified judges.
I told the story about Ted Matush winning Mr Australia 4 times in the one evening, which included audience applause. Audiences should never judge bodybuilding in my opinion.
Yet, you rigged your own contest by picking the judges. :D
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But determining who has the best physique is an incredibly subjective decision.
I am partial to physiques that have semblance to what Bob Paris brought to the table. I am not a fan of Phil Heath's physique.
I think if you give the fans a say, coupled with having a judging panel of veteran bodybuilders, we can arrive at that happy medium.
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I don't think the audience should have a voice because it wouldn't have anything to do with the physique. Most of the audience would not have chosen phil because they wanted to see him lose and that it isn't fair. However by getting non bodybuilding people like athletes, women, and maybe some gay guys you would get the regular person opinion of what looks good. That would represent the audience.
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I don't think the audience should have a voice because it wouldn't have anything to do with the physique. Most of the audience would not have chosen phil because they wanted to see him lose and that it isn't fair. However by getting non bodybuilding people like athletes, women, and maybe some gay guys you would get the regular person opinion of what looks good. That would represent the audience.
Same audience.
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I had nothing to do with Lee being threatened....not that he should feel safe neither
great news for lee
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Change the name to GPC (Global Physique Competition) or something like that so there's no confusion. There should be another kid on the block, IFBB is slowly becoming the dinosaur that didn't evolve.
Dinosaurs didn't evolve. They died.
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Dinosaurs didn't evolve. They died.
Tell that to chickens.
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Tell that to chickens.
So a chicken is a dinosaur now? lol.
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There is an objective part to the judging process. What we need is valid criteria and judges competent and unbiased to separate the competitors.
The audience should have no say except for applause. They are not experts nor qualified judges.
I told the story about Ted Matush winning Mr Australia 4 times in the one evening, which included audience applause. Audiences should never judge bodybuilding in my opinion.
This is a "sport" that thrives by way of support from its fans. The fans buy the supplements that the bodybuilders work hard to promote. The money from said supplements allows for supplement companies to sponsor the "athletes" and the various shows. Without the fans, this cult would cease to exist.
I don't know if such a thing as an expert/qualified judge truly exists within bodybuilding. If so, why do we continue to have so many years of bad judging?
I think we should mix it up a bit and allow for the fans, the ones who support this industry with their hard-earned money, to have a say.
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So a chicken is a dinosaur now? lol.
A chicken is not a dinosaur, however they did evolve from the T-Rex
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-448283/Proof-fearsome-T-Rex-evolved-chicken.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-448283/Proof-fearsome-T-Rex-evolved-chicken.html)
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I really like his juding ideas, like using the Ipad and let everyone see the scores from each judge.
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Jim M. and Steve W. remind me of "under 5 line" thugs in a very low budget gangster movie.
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So a chicken is a dinosaur now? lol.
How about crocodiles?
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I had nothing to do with Lee being threatened....not that he should feel safe neither
lol. What are a bunch of schmoes going to do? ::) ::)
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This is a "sport" that thrives by way of support from its fans. The fans buy the supplements that the bodybuilders work hard to promote. The money from said supplements allows for supplement companies to sponsor the "athletes" and the various shows. Without the fans, this cult would cease to exist.
I don't know if such a thing as an expert/qualified judge truly exists within bodybuilding. If so, why do we continue to have so many years of bad judging?
I think we should mix it up a bit and allow for the fans, the ones who support this industry with their hard-earned money, to have a say.
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I'm a bit ambivalent about this. On one hand you make a great point that it's the fans that support this industry and having them have a say
is not such a bad idea. There are objective criteria such as muscle size and conditioning but there is that ineffable quality regarding how it all comes together.
But, as you say, it's so subjective. And this goes beyond just physique. You tend to see a person with a more positive eye if you simply like them as a person. I really liked Ruhl. His personality. Always seemed upbeat and happy. I may unconsciously over look some details simply because I like him. Gunther would have been a Mr. O that one year if I had a say. I've always liked him
Also, is the general audience as sophisticated as the judges? Do they see qualities and subtle details as someone who has spent a life time in the sport? People talk about Wolf and Rhoden's back not being thick and lacking somewhat. I don't see it. People use to say the same thing about Nasser. I never saw his back as a weakness. And the whole striated glutes thing mean nothing to me.
The majority or this board sees synthol and gyno in everything. Ramy is just full of oil. I would have chosen Flex over Ronnie just because I liked his looked better with the oil though Ronnie was the better bodybuilder.
Then again the judges -- the experts -- aren't above subjectivity and politics. No way should Jay have placed higher than Ramy and the powers that be obviously love Branch.
I don't know. Maybe it should be mixed up. Audience has a say, judges has a say. But I don't want it to become like the women's division. You just pick whoever is the hottest.
But I don't think it will ever happen. The IFBB isn't going to be giving up any power.
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George Farah threatend Lee Thompson to leave the Kai Green party @ 4:30
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Doesn't work Lui
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Can't fuck with Farah. He may pull out his badge and gun.
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Can't fuck with Farah. He may pull out his badge and gun.
Lmao. I'd step on that worm.
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So why was this dude ousted from the ifbb in the first place?
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Can't fuck with Farah. He may pull out his badge and gun.
He was never a cop but he was a Lebanese soldier. I would not screw with him
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Classless move by Farah, threatening someone with physical harm like that. For what?
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Why wasn't Cedric McMillan allowed to compete at the Arnold Classic Brazil? Just because he missed the athlete's meeting and I think Lee Thompson was the head judge of the contest but I can't say for sure.
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/arnold-brazil/5590-cedric-mcmillan-disqualified-from-competing-at-arnold-brazil.html#.VgdCteRdFHg
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Classless move by Farah, threatening someone with physical harm like that. For what?
He and Chris have an interesting exchange in this video.
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He and Chris have an interesting exchange in this video.
Yeah seen that. Farah seems a bit immature and without class.
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He's talking about Lee Haney calling him up. I wonder who he's got to sign. Most likely kai but who else? He's right about a lot of things especially the transparency in judging and things not evolving
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After the texas bubba incident i wouldnt trust anything this snake says.
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He and Chris have an interesting exchange in this video.
George is a flaming asshole.
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He was never a cop but he was a Lebanese soldier. I would not screw with him
Was he a Lebanese soldier when Israel invaded that country and occupied it? Inquiring minds wants to know.
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He and Chris have an interesting exchange in this video.
Harvard University should put together a debate between these two fine gentleman. Forget about debates regarding social policy, law, science, business, politics, and economics. We want to see 2 bodybuilding gurus battling it out in an epic war of words!!
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Was he a Lebanese soldier when Israel invaded that country and occupied it? Inquiring minds wants to know.
He would shit his pants and retreat. That's probably when he moved to the U.S.
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I don't know how to post Facebook videos here, but check it out. Dude was in an hour-long, coke fueled rage:
https://www.facebook.com/thompsonmusclecontest/videos/1226302204050484/ (https://www.facebook.com/thompsonmusclecontest/videos/1226302204050484/)
Someone post some cliffs for the ADD-afflicted members.
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Well first things first. Drugs might be involved.
Today is October 12th. But he announced today's date as October 17th.
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Coles notes please?
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That thing is long and boring, sheesh.
There was this little Moosejay gem hidden in the comments -
"Michael Dusa IFFB Pro recently threatened to fuck every female in my family while making me watch. I contacted NPC/IFBB. They basically said it was not of their concern.
10 hrs".
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Lee alleged Rafael Santonja, head of the NPC/IFBB (or whatever), is engaged in illegal sex trafficking. That was probably the worst thing I've heard. The second worst was John Lindsay openly fixing the USA contest. Disappointing to hear how blatant it is...
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That thing is long and boring, sheesh.
There was this little Moosejay gem hidden in the comments -
"Michael Dusa IFFB Pro recently threatened to fuck every female in my family while making me watch. I contacted NPC/IFBB. They basically said it was not of their concern.
10 hrs".
WOW at what time in that clip did he say that?
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The racist stuff sounds about right. What he's saying most likely has elements of truth in it. It does. I am sure he is exaggerating and their are lies mingled in with the truth but there are elements that sound right.
He's doing what people do when they give ZERO fucks and have nothing to lose. I kind of don't blame him for going off because these people are acting like he's the only one who is corrupt when most of them are corrupt. They will leave him alone because they don't want him to reaaally start singing.
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At the 17 minute mark Lee called Branch Warren a pussy... and told Branch to meet up with him if he has a problem with that. Lol
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At the 17 minute mark Lee called Branch Warren a pussy... and told Branch to meet up with him if he has a problem with that. Lol
Set it up! ;D
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WOW at what time in that clip did he say that?
It's in the comments written under the video, I wonder which guy Moosejay got angry. Goodrum's in the comments too, it might get interesting..
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That Titone guy, that Thompson made out to be a cuck at the start -
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XMsebDex-cw/hqdefault.jpg).
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Damn....he's exposing what people have suspected and said all along in California promoted Jon Lindsay shows. They are all in business together.
He forgets he was in on all this too....but I guess he's gonna say the devil made me do it.
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That Titone guy, that Thompson made out to be a cuck at the start -
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XMsebDex-cw/hqdefault.jpg).
I can definatly see Ann titone taking it from others
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The Goodrum
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/w34gl.jpg)
the Moosejay
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2qasjs5.jpg)
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He's going to make his money in the Bikini and MPD who have no clue or cares about IFBB. They just want to be a Pro Bikini or Physique "athlete" ??? ??? ???
Plus there are so many of these people that nobody cares about that he will make a killing.
AND HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID ABOUT WHY NO MR OLYMPIA'S SHOW UP TO THE SHOW EACH YEAR.
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He knows where a lot of the newer bodies are buried, but IN MY OPINION AND MY OPINION ONLY, I wish he'd taken a slightly higher road. And I've been drinking a little bit.
LOL @ playing the African-American "only God can judge me" card, though
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@ 45:30 Thompson called Luke Tesvich a coward and a blatant racist. Apparently Luke disrespected Lee Haney by not giving him a national qualifier.
I agree with Thompson. I think that Haney, of all people, should have a show that is a national qualifier
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He knows where a lot of the newer bodies are buried, but IN MY OPINION AND MY OPINION ONLY, I wish he'd taken a slightly higher road. And I've been drinking a little bit.
LOL @ playing the African-American "only God can judge me" card, though
In a way I do too but if you're going to go for broke may as well go all the way. Plus he says he has proof and documentation and will be posting it...so people really will shut up then.
Man I know people are shaking in their boots tonight because he's out for blood and he will tell it ALL.
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@ 49:50 Thompson said that Branch Warren was banging a female bodybuilder... while Trish Warren was pregnant
Thompson named the gym where she trains. Said her name was Sarah
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The FMG comments and Hany/Evogen comments were interesting. All FMG managed "clients" took the top six spots in bikini and figure Olympia owned by Manion.hmm. I didn't quite follow the fix in men's bikini and the tie to Hany/Evogen.
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So what he's saying is....
Not even the sacred sport of bodybuilding is real???
All places were fixed due to favoritism, the competitors doing favors for the judges
Damn, even bodybuilding-judges can apparently be bought!!!!
ODOR 66 on all of em!
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At the 17 minute mark Lee called Branch Warren a pussy... and told Branch to meet up with him if he has a problem with that. Lol
Branch is a disgusting troll who needs to retire asap!
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The FMG comments and Hany/Evogen comments were interesting. All FMG managed "clients" took the top six spots in bikini and figure owned by Manion.hmm. I didn't quite follow the fix in men's bikini and the tie to Hany/Evogen.
Doesn't Hany train the men's bikini dude? Jeremy Bundia?
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Some points paraphrased from the video -
http://www.jamesallenphoto.com/about-james/ < ------- According to video, Lee was kind to him, and paid to set him up. Apparently shitty photog that talks shit about flabby fitness girls.
John Sherman - Broke ass dude, that tries to take credit for shows he can't afford.
Dre Dillard - poses like a skank, so Lee doesn't dig her.
Branch Warren, and Trish Warren - Shitty, untalented wife, who would be nowhere without Branch. Branch is a cheap fuck that puts on a crappy show. Too cheap to pay for A/C. Begged Lee for a show, and turned it into a cheap piece of shit. Won't even pay for Lee's meal after he helped him with show. Three people suffered heat stroke because he wouldn't pay for the A/C last show.
Lacey Something is a dummy living off family fame.
Phil, Dexter, and Jay are his guys.
NPC judges are dummies about judging symmetry, etc.... And Judges shouldn't make money off trying to help folks learn posing, etc.... Conflict of interest.
Steve Weinberger - Somewhat violent douche, choked Thompson. Running hustle by tying his gym into NPC business.
John Romano has his head up the NPC's ass, trying to get some loot.
Jon Lindsey - Might fix contests for booth buyers at his contests. Made Lonnie Teper a business cuckold, should throw him a bone. On HRT, looking for fitness pussy.
Jack Titone - Loves midget porn. Wife did porn for Fitness Babes.com. Shares wife's stuff with other judges. Wife hooked private posing business into NPC.
Fitness Management Group - JM Manion owned, tied into NPC. Fixes shows, so his guys win. Manion's company ran some fitness girl porn sites.
Tad the Diet couch is a goof.
Rafael Santoh- Something (IFBB muckty - muck) - bans athletes he doesn't like, will fix contests for cash. Might be a kid toucher.
Former Mr. O's aren't comped, must pay their own way or get gifted tickets.
Lee Haney gets screwed over as a promoter by NPC guy Luke Tesvich, Luke and Kim Oddo also tie personal business into NPC.
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Doesn't Hany train the men's bikini dude? Jeremy Bundia?
Yes he does and I think it might be how much Hany pays the IFBB for marketing Evogen or something. GB has been calling out the IFBB and NPC forever so he's just backing up all that we have been saying. He was arrested for selling steroids if my memory is correct.
He does have the makings of a good book when he adds in the drugs.
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Nice work brah. Cliff Notes needs more men like you.
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Nice work brah. Cliff Notes needs more men like you.
All FMG managed "clients" took the top six spots in bikini and figure Olympia owned by Manion.hmm.
just add to the list IFBB
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Got to hand it to the younger Manion, it's good work if you can find it -
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0p6ZpClMy-g/UkH7cLE9QgI/AAAAAAAARPg/3hcM-eNO3fY/s1600/JMP_0290.jpg).
More here -
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=87978 .
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Dre Dillard poses like a skank, so Lee doesn't dig her.
Poses like a skank he says?
Posing routine of Peace!!!
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wtf did I just fast forward thru?
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NPC Global now changes its name to NSL (Nspire Sports League)
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lee singing like a bird
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That's some good listenin. I want to hear more about rigged contests.
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I like Lee's voice
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He brings up some good points but do you really want to compete in a league that this guy is the head of. Lee has married 2 girls he used to judge and owns gyms that competitors train at. He was also busted for having a steroid distributing business pushing it through his gyms. Who do you think was buying his stuff? Half of what he's said is just to hurt others reputation and has nothing to do with how the NPC is run.
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He brings up some good points but do you really want to compete in a league that this guy is the head of. Lee has married 2 girls he used to judge and owns gyms that competitors train at. He was also busted for having a steroid distributing business pushing it through his gyms. Who do you think was buying his stuff? Half of what he's said is just to hurt others reputation and has nothing to do with how the NPC is run.
Thompson has been slandered by a lot of people during the past month. So I think that he wanted to fire back.
Sounds like he hates Branch Warren, John Lindsay, and Rafael S. He seems to still have respect for Jim Manion.
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Got to hand it to the younger Manion, it's good work if you can find it -
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0p6ZpClMy-g/UkH7cLE9QgI/AAAAAAAARPg/3hcM-eNO3fY/s1600/JMP_0290.jpg).
More here -
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=87978 .
:-*
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I'm not surprised by anything he said. More please.
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Altough i dont doubt what he says is true but i dont think he is any better himself
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He probably shouldn't make too many videos like that one.
He will have a hard time attracting sponsors. Everybody knows that the sport is corrupt & overly political; but sponsors will run when the truth is plastered all over social media.
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he's not right with everything he says but yes, SHAWN Ray is a fuacking idiot. Everyone will give him right. ;D
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He probably shouldn't make too many videos like that one.
He will have a hard time attracting sponsors. Everybody knows that the sport is corrupt & overly political; but sponsors will run when the truth is plastered all over social media.
I agree because if I were a new business associate I would worry he would do that to me if we got into it BUT at the same time, he is striking a chord with so many people because he's confirming what has been talked about for years. I looked at the comments and he had a lot of people agreeing that they knew it was all one big mess but this video confirmed exactly what they thought. I am sure he will get tons of people who were tired of the crap in the NPC/IFBB but they should realize he played a large role in all what went on. They all did which is why it was laughable that people started bashing him as soon as he left. Before they were all buddy buddy.
I also heard from other people who are glad he said what he did about Jon Lindsay and some of these coaches. They would always be shut down when they talked about the conflict of interests.
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Thompson said that Luke Tesvich was upset when it became known that he had stuffed animals all throughout his house (from hunting). Thompson said that Tesvich lured a lion into a confined area and then, like a coward, shot the lion.
I did an image search on Google for Luke Tesvich. Here are a few of the photos that popped up.
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Got to hand it to the younger Manion, it's good work if you can find it -
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0p6ZpClMy-g/UkH7cLE9QgI/AAAAAAAARPg/3hcM-eNO3fY/s1600/JMP_0290.jpg).
More here -
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=87978 .
Wearing that batman shirt and hat and smiling while you are standing next to a naked woman with a blue painted on outfit, reeks of some true comic book nerd ish.
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So what he's saying is....
Not even the sacred sport of bodybuilding is real???
All places were fixed due to favoritism, the competitors doing favors for the judges
Damn, even bodybuilding-judges can apparently be bought!!!!
ODOR 66 on all of em!
Kwon and I say this with all due respect, but fixed contests are highly unlikely. At one point here on getbig we had an npc judge, that had over 10 years experience, who insisted this wasn't true and that it was ridiculous to make such claims. He said the best build always won.
Does anyone know what happened to Howard, as he will verify these statements.
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Some points paraphrased from the video -
Branch Warren, and Trish Warren - Shitty, untalented wife, who would be nowhere without Branch. Branch is a cheap fuck that puts on a crappy show. Too cheap to pay for A/C. Begged Lee for a show, and turned it into a cheap piece of shit. Won't even pay for Lee's meal after he helped him with show. Three people suffered heat stroke because he wouldn't pay for the A/C last show.
NPC judges are dummies about judging symmetry, etc.... And Judges shouldn't make money off trying to help folks learn posing, etc.... Conflict of interest.
Steve Weinberger - Somewhat violent douche, choked Thompson. Running hustle by tying his gym into NPC business.
John Romano has his head up the NPC's ass, trying to get some loot.
Jon Lindsey - Might fix contests for booth buyers at his contests. Made Lonnie Teper a business cuckold, should throw him a bone. On HRT, looking for fitness pussy.
Fitness Management Group - Manion owned, tied into NPC. Fixes shows, so his guys win. Manion's company ran some fitness girl porn sites.
Former Mr. O's aren't comped, must pay their own way or get gifted tickets.
I thought these things were common knowledge by anyone who follows this industry.
Particularly Weinberger being a ridiculously bully, as well as the son of Jim Manion rigging the deck for his FMG fitness and figure model sluts to automatically place top five at any given show.
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I thought these things were common knowledge by anyone who follows this industry.
Particularly Weinberger being a ridiculously corrupt bully, as well as the fat son of Jim Manion rigging the deck for his FMG fitness and figure model sluts to automatically place top five at any given show.
He pretty indicated that Rafael Santonja (on the right) is a child molestor
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www.nabba.com/
A fair organization that favors more normal physiques.
Even has a pro-division now.
Tony Pearson and Doug Brignole compete there among other well known former NPC and IFBB guys.
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Thompson said that Luke Tesvich was upset when it became known that he had stuffed animals all throughout his house (from hunting). Thompson said that Tesvich lured a lion into a confined area and then, like a coward, shot the lion.
I did an image search on Google for Luke Tesvich. Here are a few of the photos that popped up.
And Branch posts pictures of him hunting and killing animals.
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Lee Thompson said that sponsors bought booths at the Olympia. But then David Pecker charged all of the sponsors and additional 30% over and above the initial costs. Why? Because FLEX Magazine sales are so poor and Pecker's crew is losing money.
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Lee Thompson said that sponsors bought booths at the Olympia. But then David Pecker charged all of the sponsors and additional 30% over and above the initial costs. Why? Because FLEX Magazine sales are so poor and Pecker's crew is losing money.
Flex mag should either change what they cover to include more men's physique, MuscleMania, WBF, bikini, figure women, and less bbers. Have more of the Simeon Panda, Lazar Angelov, Artemus, Ulisses Jr. Or they should FD the mag altogether and concentrate on the website with better features and coverage.
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Lee held back on Jim Manion. Interesting. IMO, this was less about respect and more about strategy. I feel he's saving the best for last (if it comes to that).
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goodrum going hard in the facebook comments section :D
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Lee held back on Jim Manion. Interesting. IMO, this was less about respect and more about strategy. I feel he's saving the best for last (if it comes to that).
Lee made is sound like Jim was the only person that didn't talk shit when he (Lee) resigned. Plus; Lee said that he always called him "Mr. Manion". And it pissed Lee off when others in the NPC would call him "Manion".
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Lee held back on Jim Manion. Interesting. IMO, this was less about respect and more about strategy. I feel he's saving the best for last (if it comes to that).
That's what I think too. He seems intent on scaring the shit out of people to leave him alone. I noticed he didn't say anything about any of the guys except for branch and Trish warren and that's only cause they went after him. This was a warning to the rest not to talk shit because he knows it all and has no qualms about telling it all.
I do know he's got a lot of silent support for finally saying what people had suspected about Jon Lindsay shows. People are agreeing amongst themselves.
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goodrum going hard in the facebook comments section :D
"Hello Michael....or should I say MOOSEJAY. You're betting on the wrong horse if you're backing that fat pig eating slob Lee Thompson. He can rant for 2 hours for all he likes but no-one IMPORTANT IS LISTENING OR CARES. Anyone who goes with this baloney sandwich of a league will prob find themselves blacklisted. But its your career people. ".
:). I like the big Moose Jay reveal.
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Haha look at melvin fighting hard hoping that some ifbb tops see it and invites him to the inner cirkle...witch he deserves dor all he has done for bodybuilding
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He probably shouldn't make too many videos like that one.
He will have a hard time attracting sponsors. Everybody knows that the sport is corrupt & overly political; but sponsors will run when the truth is plastered all over social media.
That's the thing right there. It's possible he's already got a ton of out-of-(present)market sponsors lined up for his promotions, but too many public expressions like this one will likely make it tough on him moving. Potential investors aren't saying, "Wow, this guy has balls - I like him and can't wait to make money with him!" Instead, they are saying, "Man, what if my deal with him goes south for whatever reason? Who needs the headache?"
I understand wanting to vent, but I believe that can be done without resorting to such vitriol. And it's almost always poor form to brag about your bank account. Throw it out there once, fine, but don't keep repeating that same line over and over. It's gauche.
I hope that he succeeds with whatever he does next, but the way to do that is to just go be good at it. Close off the previous chapter in your life and go be good at the next thing. If doing a well-crafted exposé is what you *really* want to do, though, then angry YouTube (or Facebook) rants and threats of "I'll post your text messages on a new website!" aren't really the way to go about it.
I am, however, looking into the possible purchase of one of those $25,000 doctorates he mentioned. ;D
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"Hello Michael....or should I say MOOSEJAY. You're betting on the wrong horse if you're backing that fat pig eating slob Lee Thompson. He can rant for 2 hours for all he likes but no-one IMPORTANT IS LISTENING OR CARES. Anyone who goes with this baloney sandwich of a league will prob find themselves blacklisted. But its your career people. ".
:). I like the big Moose Jay reveal.
Gotta give you credit, Vince, good stuff. And there's this:
"If you people want to follow Lee Thompson punk ass ... you find yourself competing to a crowd of 30 people in some elementary school ..."
That was pretty sweet. You're normally not very funny, Vince. Nor clever. And certainly never a combination of both, that's just absurd. But you really pulled it off here, well done.
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Kwon and I say this with all due respect, but fixed contests are highly unlikely.
At one point here on getbig we had an npc judge, that had over 10 years experience, who insisted this wasn't true and that it was ridiculous to make such claims. He said the best build always won.
Does anyone know what happened to Howard, as he will verify these statements.
Bullshit !!!!! As a former bodybuilder ( National Level ), NPC DOES fix contests. This is widely known and common knowledge.
Just watched Lee's video. SPOT ON !!!!! Might have revealed a little too much though, in my opinion ...
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NEW VIDEO
https://www.facebook.com/thompsonmusclecontest/videos/1228488643831840/ (https://www.facebook.com/thompsonmusclecontest/videos/1228488643831840/)
Lee calling out Ed, Betty Pariso and others for anti-competition practises and intimidation. ie; telling competitors to edit their instagram etc. Lee threatening legal action and to report tax evaders to the IRS... :D
looking forward to more of this stuff
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Kamikaze
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Bullshit !!!!! As a former bodybuilder ( National Level ), NPC DOES fix contests. This is widely known and common knowledge.
Just watched Lee's video. SPOT ON !!!!! Might have revealed a little too much though, in my opinion ...
Kamali thanking that Judge (who died, the one who said Shawn Ray always looks the same) for his Pro card comes to mind.
Also, that one eyed guy with the terrible physique who won his Pro card.
This also could explain why there is such terrible quality in the Pro ranks. Judges/sponsors fixing contests so that their favorites/competitors can win.
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Sounds like Lee has decades of built up frustration.... and he just doesn't care anymore.
Kinda like Jim Carrey in Me, Myself, and Irene.
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For those that don't want to watch the video, paraphrased -
Pariso's are not fans of Lee and his ventures, and you best not be giving them props on your Instagram, etc.... if you want to be in their good graces.
And to that Lee says -
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and he better not catch you using "NPC Texas", because he owns that.
James Allen owes tons of taxes.
James Sherman is trying to scare competitors into not doing Lee's contests, etc....
Lee also reminds competitors that if you see some haters hatin' , point 'em out, point 'em out....
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At the 17 minute mark Lee called Branch Warren a pussy... and told Branch to meet up with him if he has a problem with that. Lol
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He must have some really good dirt on people to be so "I give zero fucks" and calling people out by name.
Someone made a good point: A lot of people in the industry have gone completely quiet. *crickets* He's got em running scared. What's funny though is that people can say all they want about him but they were there when all this was going on too. People have said it was bullshit all along and they got quieted down for being bitter. Those people are loving it.
As I keep saying, bodybuilding probably won't be the main focus of this league. It will most likely be bikini and physique. Those people don't care about the IFBB and don't understand or appreciate the history of bodybuilding. They just want to get on stage in bikinis and shorts.
Wonder what will happen next!
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He must have some really good dirt on people to be so "I give zero fucks" and calling people out by name.
Someone made a good point: A lot of people in the industry have gone completely quiet. *crickets* He's got em running scared. What's funny though is that people can say all they want about him but they were there when all this was going on too. People have said it was bullshit all along and they got quieted down for being bitter. Those people are loving it.
As I keep saying, bodybuilding probably won't be the main focus of this league. It will most likely be bikini and physique. Those people don't care about the IFBB and don't understand or appreciate the history of bodybuilding. They just want to get on stage in bikinis and shorts.
Wonder what will happen next!
Lee is hinting that Erin Stern is gonna spill the beans on FMG shortly 8)
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Kamali thanking that Judge (who died, the one who said Shawn Ray always looks the same) for his Pro card comes to mind.
Also, that one eyed guy with the terrible physique who won his Pro card.
This also could explain why there is such terrible quality in the Pro ranks. Judges/sponsors fixing contests so that their favorites/competitors can win.
I would love to hear Lee Thompson discuss how Edgar Fletcher never turned pro... but somehow guys like Bruce Patterson and Chris Duffy did turn pro.
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He hasn't bashed any of the bodybuilders except for branch and that's only cause they started it. Nobody else has said shit so it lets you know Lee does have some type of loyalty because I know there's some gems he could drop
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He hasn't bashed any of the bodybuilders except for branch and that's only cause they started it. Nobody else has said shit so it lets you know Lee does have some type of loyalty because I know there's some gems he could drop
And Lee primarily attacked Branch because Branch has his own NPC show in Texas. Lee felt that it was poorly run.... and unprofessional. Zero air conditioning at the Texas venue. People were passing out from heat exhaustion.
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He hasn't bashed any of the bodybuilders except for branch and that's only cause they started it.
Oh yes he has lol. John Sherman and Dre Dillard come to mind. And they deserved it.
Kamali thanking that Judge (who died, the one who said Shawn Ray always looks the same) for his Pro card comes to mind.
Also, that one eyed guy with the terrible physique who won his Pro card.
This also could explain why there is such terrible quality in the Pro ranks. Judges/sponsors fixing contests so that their favorites/competitors can win.
This stuff goes on all the time. Has been for years. Sergio vs Arnold comes to mind.
I for one am ELATED that Lee is opening his mouth up. Even told him so PERSONALLY. Yes, personally. There's a reason why I hung up my trunks and have absolutely zero aspirations of ever competing again. You guys wouldn't believe some of the shit I have seen and what happens at bodybuilding shows. :/
Again, good for Lee. :)
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Oh yes he has lol. John Sherman and Dre Dillard come to mind. And they deserved it.
This stuff goes on all the time. Has been for years. Sergio vs Arnold comes to mind.
I for one am ELATED that Lee is opening his mouth up. Even told him so PERSONALLY. Yes, personally. There's a reason why I hung up my trunks and have absolutely zero aspirations of ever competing again. You guys wouldn't believe some of the shit I have seen and what happens at bodybuilding shows. :/
Again, good for Lee. :)
Hi Kai!
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Hi Kai!
Lol yeah. Not in this life. Wouldn't mind his bank account though.
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Oh yes he has lol. John Sherman and Dre Dillard come to mind. And they deserved it.
This stuff goes on all the time. Has been for years. Sergio vs Arnold comes to mind.
I for one am ELATED that Lee is opening his mouth up. Even told him so PERSONALLY. Yes, personally. There's a reason why I hung up my trunks and have absolutely zero aspirations of ever competing again. You guys wouldn't believe some of the shit I have seen and what happens at bodybuilding shows. :/
Again, good for Lee. :)
I meant any current and relevant pros. I know one thing. People have gone absolutely silent. People in California have alleged what he said about Jon Lindsay shows for years and him confirming it was just wow. I wonder about the Hany and Evogen connection. I think Hany promotes some shows too.
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One thing for sure. There will never be any lawsuits over this.
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Where is the Ann Titone video?
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Oh yes he has lol. John Sherman and Dre Dillard come to mind. And they deserved it.
This stuff goes on all the time. Has been for years. Sergio vs Arnold comes to mind.
I for one am ELATED that Lee is opening his mouth up. Even told him so PERSONALLY. Yes, personally. There's a reason why I hung up my trunks and have absolutely zero aspirations of ever competing again. You guys wouldn't believe some of the shit I have seen and what happens at bodybuilding shows. :/
Again, good for Lee. :)
brosef, Please Tell us. You don't have to give names. Would definitely like to know though.
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brosef, Please Tell us. You don't have to give names. Would definitely like to know though.
You love that gossip don't you, homie? ;D
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You love that gossip don't you, homie? ;D
NPC and IFBB gossip all day. I always want to know what really goes on behind the scenes. Not to blab my mouth of, just my own morbid curiosity. lol
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How come nobody has come out and said he's lying? All they've done is the point out all his dirt but nobody has said they what he is saying isn't true.
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How come nobody has come out and said he's lying? All they've done is the point out all his dirt but nobody has said they what he is saying isn't true.
Possibly because they know it's all true. And if they say he is lying, and he can corroborate it, it makes them look guilty as well. When it comes to the human body+money+semi nudity, men and women are most corrupt.
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How come nobody has come out and said he's lying? All they've done is the point out all his dirt but nobody has said they what he is saying isn't true.
Because the NPC sheep are afraid to get into a gun fight with a former shepard.
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Possibly because they know it's all true. And if they say he is lying, and he can corroborate it, it makes them look guilty as well. When it comes to the human body+money+semi nudity, men and women are most corrupt.
Yep. People have gone SILENT and they keep pointing out all his domestic violence charges and steroid charges but all that was going on while he was a big wig in the federation. Plus many of those folks aren't saints either.
It makes them look even worse than we thought. Especially when they had all their "athletes" pledge their lives to the ifbb. All the ifbb needed to say was "We thank Mr Thompson for his years of service to our organization and we wish him the best of luck with his new venture."
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Everything about Lee Thompson is fake and lies. Look at his Twitter account.
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Oh yes he has lol. John Sherman and Dre Dillard come to mind. And they deserved it.
This stuff goes on all the time. Has been for years. Sergio vs Arnold comes to mind.
I for one am ELATED that Lee is opening his mouth up. Even told him so PERSONALLY. Yes, personally. There's a reason why I hung up my trunks and have absolutely zero aspirations of ever competing again. You guys wouldn't believe some of the shit I have seen and what happens at bodybuilding shows. :/
Again, good for Lee. :)
dude, you've GOT to post some stories of what you've seen in your day,
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Yep. People have gone SILENT and they keep pointing out all his domestic violence charges and steroid charges but all that was going on while he was a big wig in the federation. Plus many of those folks aren't saints either. It makes them look even worse than we thought. Especially when they had all their "athletes" pledge their lives to the ifbb. All the ifbb needed to say was "We thank Mr Thompson for his years of service to our organization and we wish him the best of luck with his new venture."
With Lee Thompson going crazy with his outlandish behavior, there isn't much for the IFBB to do. The desperation is in his voice, and the fact that competitors are not flocking to his new venture is enough. The main issue was that Lee was using the NPC name in his new organization, and rather than fight it, Lee smartly chose to change his venture name to NSL. Nspire Sports League. Good enough. People can differentiate between the two.
Now as for Lee claiming he owns "NPC Texas" and can use it, that will get much murkier. For if he uses that url in any form negatively towards the NPC, it will be a problem, no matter what the "state controller of Texas say" or better yet, his lawyer will give him some advice too.
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Wow - just wow on all of this. Wayne DeMilia tried with the PDI? Lots of other organizations out there too. All ok, but none tried to 'steal' the NPC name and continue to use it for another organization. Of course Lee is getting flack.
Lee switching the name was a wise choice, because many athletes were confused. Now, that organization is the NSL or Nspire Sports League, and we have the NPC, which members in the USA turn pro and compete in the IFBB. No more confusion.
Not while he makes some points on his video, many others are just plain off. Simple as that. And with so many IFBB-NPC shows going on each weekend, I have not had enough time to even figure out all of this. Another organization out there. Great. There are already a few. I wish Lee the best. But the threats, the sadness, the trying to keep the NPC name, even in Texas, that just isn't cool. Give it up, stop playing games, and concentrate on your own stuff. Hey, NSL Texas is a good name, no? Start using it.
Of course there are people that are concerned. Like any business, the NPC name is still being used, in the form of the website misleading people to the NSL. Can you imagine Macy's decided to use TargetTexas as their own site. It just won't happen.
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With Lee Thompson going crazy with his outlandish behavior, there isn't much for the IFBB to do. The desperation is in his voice, and the fact that competitors are not flocking to his new venture is enough. The main issue was that Lee was using the NPC name in his new organization, and rather than fight it, Lee smartly chose to change his venture name to NSL. Nspire Sports League. Good enough. People can differentiate between the two.
Now as for Lee claiming he owns "NPC Texas" and can use it, that will get much murkier. For if he uses that url in any form negatively towards the NPC, it will be a problem, no matter what the "state controller of Texas say" or better yet, his lawyer will give him some advice too.
He said that he used NPCGlobal to attract attention and it was planned to be NSL all along. Idk but it DID cause a commotion. I was Confused as well when it came out. I didn't know if it was a totally different thing or a division of the ifbb
He will make a killing especially if this league heavily promoted bikini and men's physique. Dude...those folks don't care about the ifbb. They just want to get up onstage and brag about being in the industry. As far as the bodybuilding component unless he's giving out million dollar paydays I can't see this being an issue
He says he has the rights to NPC Texas so I don't know about lawsuits. My issue with this entire fiasco is that people in glass houses are throwing stones when they do not seem to realize they were complicit in his actions when he was chairman. some of what he said has been spoken about amongst competitors for years so to hear him say it confirmed many people's suspicions
I thought the personal attacks were unnecessary and would scare me away if I were a sponsor. I know he knows a lot more but he's staying quiet out of loyalty to his people....he hasn't gone completely bonkers
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IFBB Bikini Pro Stacey Oster opens up and reveals the horror she lived through with ex-husband Lee Thompson
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Wow - just wow on all of this. Wayne DeMilia tried with the PDI? Lots of other organizations out there too. All ok, but none tried to 'steal' the NPC name and continue to use it for another organization. Of course Lee is getting flack.
Lee switching the name was a wise choice, because many athletes were confused. Now, that organization is the NSL or Nspire Sports League, and we have the NPC, which members in the USA turn pro and compete in the IFBB. No more confusion.
Not while he makes some points on his video, many others are just plain off. Simple as that. And with so many IFBB-NPC shows going on each weekend, I have not had enough time to even figure out all of this. Another organization out there. Great. There are already a few. I wish Lee the best. But the threats, the sadness, the trying to keep the NPC name, even in Texas, that just isn't cool. Give it up, stop playing games, and concentrate on your own stuff. Hey, NSL Texas is a good name, no? Start using it.
Of course there are people that are concerned. Like any business, the NPC name is still being used, in the form of the website misleading people to the NSL. Can you imagine Macy's decided to use TargetTexas as their own site. It just won't happen.
As if the IFBB didn't also threaten Lee. ::)
The ifbb is probably filled with scams and corruption, which you probably know little about. people have already talked about the many lies and corruption in the IFBB.
You're just a spoke on a wheel for them. Nothing more.
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IFBB Bikini Pro Stacey Oster opens up and reveals the horror she lived through with ex-husband Lee Thompson
Cliff notes
In 2006, a female NPC competitor, who was a single mom, decided to start banging a NPC Judge. They lived in different states; Colorado and Texas. He promised her the world. After 3 years, things got ugly.
Now in 2015.... she gave RXmuscle ancient text messages from 2009ish, proving that there was some physical abuse in the relationship.
She claims that she has a lot of audio recordings of fights that they had.
She blames him for losing her Gaspari contract.
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Cliff notes
In 2006, a female NPC competitor, who was a single mom, decided to start banging a NPC Judge. They lived in different states; Colorado and Texas. He promised her the world. After 3 years, things got ugly.
Now in 2015.... she gave RXmuscle ancient text messages from 2009ish, proving that there was some physical abuse in the relationship.
She claims that she has a lot of audio recordings of fights that they had.
She blames him for losing her Gaspari contract.
Id still bang her
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Hmmmm if everyone's private life is fair game then they are all fucked because most of those fuckers are fucked up (excuse the language but I can't think of any other way to say it)
Yet they forget they were all in when he was mr big wig in the ifbb AND when people brought these things up, they were labeled as bitter and told to shut up
All sides are dirty in this case and the ifbb is not above reproach. They also haven't said he lied about anything. They just went after his personal life and those people can all go to hell in that case
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Anytime that I hear that a woman has "audio recordings" of private arguments..... I think of the epic Mel Gibson rants from 2010. Mel's wife tried to sound calm on the recordings as she led Mel into a fight. Her motive: $$$PROFIT$$$. Selling the tapes to the media.
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once again lee is the devil but nobody cared until he started another federation
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Palumbo is turning the bodybuilding world into a soap opera but it's entairtaining lol. I don't think anything less of Lee after watching this video, personally I know how fucking annoying and provoking women can be. I would never do this stuff but I don't automatically think he is to blame..
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once again lee is the devil but nobody cared until he started another federation
I have feeling that Lee is very willing to continue this verbal war. He has only gotten warmed up. He will bring the heavy artillery soon.
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Palscumbo hitting a new low? Can he even fall any lower? ???
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She sure looks like a grounded, decent, truthful woman
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This is a common story in the bodybuilding world. Many of these women have little to no self esteem which is why they don't understand that all this attention for their body is limiting and means nothing. Then you have an industry filled with insecure and narcissistic men who are excellent liars and manipulators. They get these young, shallow, and little self esteem women who easy to control and manipulate with money, gifts, and feeling like they are with a real celebrity. It's sad.
If they are going to dig into his past it's going to get very ugly because this is commonplace in this industry
Men in the industry always tell women the first rule is never to date within the industry. Truth: Most of the women I know who are/were in the industry and have successful relationships are with men who aren't in the industry. They may like to workout but that's it.
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Making Lee look bad publicly is one way to possibly be viewed more favorably by the ifbb I suppose.
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Blonde hair
Brown eyes
Always seem to be a little crazy :D
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Anytime that I hear that a woman has "audio recordings" of private arguments..... I think of the epic Mel Gibson rants from 2010. Mel's wife tried to sound calm on the recordings as she led Mel into a fight. Her motive: $$$PROFIT$$$. Selling the tapes to the media.
"... by a pack of Hebrews." lol good times
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Around the 8 minute mark...
She gets a little bit defensive as she says that she doesn't know much about steroids.... yeah right ::)
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What a JOKE!! ::)
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Palumbo's shoe polish hair is proof that you really can polish a turd.
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She used to be FAP worthy. What happened to her?
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What does being a POS husband have to do with his ability to run a bodybuilding organization?
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So basically she's fucking another judge to further her career while throwing her ex under the bus. ::)
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Like you can believe someones ex. There is always two sides to a story.
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Palumbo has gone to the lowest you can be. Bringing an ex-wife of an ex-IFBB promoter to tell her side of the story claiming every form of abuse possible and trying to vilify Lee. Seven years later. Two months ago, Lee Thompson was a saint in the IFBB. Now, it has come to this. A one sided attack smear campaign, with Palumbo never going to let anyone hear Lee's side.
This makes not only Palumbo look bad, but it seems like the promoters in the NPC and IFBB are using him for smear campaign to derail his new organization. This may very well backfire.
Then again, Lee Thompson has lied many times before, to many people, so who knows.
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Palumbo has gone to the lowest you can be. Bringing an ex-wife of an ex-IFBB promoter to tell her side of the story claiming every form of abuse possible and trying to vilify Lee. Seven years later. Two months ago, Lee Thompson was a saint in the IFBB. Now, it has come to this. A one sided attack smear campaign, with Palumbo never going to let anyone hear Lee's side.
This makes not only Palumbo look bad, but it seems like the promoters in the NPC and IFBB are using him for smear campaign to derail his new organization. This may very well backfire.
Then again, Lee Thompson has lied many times before, to many people, so who knows.
I agree; bringing Lee's ex-wife on to the show was shameless. There was a point in the show that I think that Dave, himself, realized that it was a bad idea.
I guarantee you that Palumbo would love to have Lee Thompson on his show. But Dave would definitely ask some tough questions. And Lee would drop more names and reveal more dirt.
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Lee will never ever go to IronDebate and let Dave ask him questions. He will make a Facebook-Video on this for sure. Mark my words 8)
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I listened to the whole thing and his woman's story is not unique. The industry is full of these women with low self esteem who allow themselves to be controlled and manipulated by drug addicted narcissists. I believe every word she's saying because I've seen it over and over again I am glad she spoke out because maybe she can help another girl see its not worth it
So many delusional chicks who think that this is the way to fame and fortune or have nothing else to offer and Insecure manipulators have their pick of victims
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Why would she stay with him after finding out out he was a manipulative, narcissistic, abusive, liar.
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I think Lee Thompson has the right idea, he obviously runs good shows and can see the money in the future is with figure/Bikini etc from all the women entering. Women who don't care about the NPC or IFBB so much like men do with going for the Olympia. Paul Dillet seems to be doing pretty well in his organisation. Plus he is right Social Media changes everything since everyone can contact others all the time.
But they all have skeletons. Plus Lee was TexasBudda who came on here to attack Luke Wood under an alias, what a weak bitch move that is. He will probably do ok. But at least it's fun to watch for a while.
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Why would she stay with him after finding out out he was a manipulative, narcissistic, abusive, liar.
Because these women usually have very low self esteem and self worth. An abuser taps Into this and further weakens them by constantly telling them they are worthless, won't be anything without them, nobody else will want them, etc
These men use these women as trophies and it's easy to lure them in with trips, gifts, and attention because the women don't feel good about themselves. It's not like this woman had her own thing going on. He probably saw another woman who got caught up in this fitness world thinking that doing these shows was going to validate her or being her some sort of recognition
It's sad and there are tons of stories like this. Lee isn't the only one
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Because these women usually have very low self esteem and self worth. An abuser taps Into this and further weakens them by constantly telling them they are worthless, won't be anything without them, nobody else will want them, etc
These men use these women as trophies and it's easy to lure them in with trips, gifts, and attention because the women don't feel good about themselves. It's not like this woman had her own thing going on. He probably saw another woman who got caught up in this fitness world thinking that doing these shows was going to validate her or being her some sort of recognition
It's sad and there are tons of stories like this. Lee isn't the only one
I know this, it was more or less a rhetorical question. I have personally witnessed a similar situation.
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I listened to the whole thing and his woman's story is not unique. The industry is full of these women with low self esteem who allow themselves to be controlled and manipulated by drug addicted narcissists. I believe every word she's saying because I've seen it over and over again I am glad she spoke out because maybe she can help another girl see its not worth it
So many delusional chicks who think that this is the way to fame and fortune or have nothing else to offer and Insecure manipulators have their pick of victims
But.... These women, themselves, are also drug-addicted narcissists
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Lee will never ever go to IronDebate and let Dave ask him questions. He will make a Facebook-Video on this for sure. Mark my words 8)
Dave has said that he would have Lee Thompson on but that's not the same thing as inviting him on. I don't think Thompson would have a problem going on but the powers that be will shit on Palumbo again for this, even if he makes it a pep rally for the NPC.
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Its pretty ridiculous and transparent seeing participants in the npc/ifbb use this saga to "cement" themselves in the organisations in hopes of favourable judging. ::)
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Its pretty ridiculous and transparent seeing participants in the npc/ifbb use this saga to "cement" themselves in the organisations in hopes of favourable judging. ::)
Those folks are going to need to get their stomachs pumped to get rid of all that cum.
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Looks like ol' Stacy's face is frozen from the obvious botox. The anavar therapy didn't do her any justice either. None of this matters anyway it's bodybuilding. Every guy is like this. Each and every one of them I'm sure Collette can tell us some good stories about Dave too.
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He's moved on to I think wife number 5.
He has his pimp necklace on.
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So Lee dropped NPC Global and changed it is NSL (Nspire Sports League). Supposedly, he flew into Venice Beach today to make an announcement after promoting an NPC contest (yes, an NPC contest in which he was the promoter) last night. How awkward was that for the staff who are in the NPC having to deal with this situation.
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'Industry' of peace..
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Looks like ol' Stacy's face is frozen from the obvious botox. The anavar therapy didn't do her any justice either. None of this matters anyway it's bodybuilding. Every guy is like this. Each and every one of them I'm sure Collette can tell us some good stories about Dave too.
Somehow I get the sense the worse things he did was wear her dresses and high heels behind close doors a la Ed Wood
He comes across as most likely a submissive in his romantic life
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Somehow I get the sense the worse things he did was wear her dresses and high heels behind close doors a la Ed Wood
He comes across as most likely a submissive in his romantic life
He supposedly beat up his ex-wife. So he might not be a submissive as you think.
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What happened with the big launch?
If nobody of note is joining lees thing then why was the NPC/IFBB acting like a bunch of scared jackrabbits
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He supposedly beat up his ex-wife. So he might not be a submissive as you think.
Talking about Palumbo here, not Lee, see below
Looks like ol' Stacy's face is frozen from the obvious botox. The anavar therapy didn't do her any justice either. None of this matters anyway it's bodybuilding. Every guy is like this. Each and every one of them I'm sure Collette can tell us some good stories about Dave too.
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He already left on his own terms. He decided to leave. He fucking quit.
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He already left on his own terms. He decided to leave. He fucking quit.
I think they want to make sure that he never comes back
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He quit in September and they did this almost two months later. Then they sent him an e-mail informing him he was being let go. This is all after he publicly resigned and already started his own league.
Looks pretty silly IMO.
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If he has any shows on the East Coast Masters Class,I`ll enter them.
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He quit in September and they did this almost two months later. Then they sent him an e-mail informing him he was being let go. This is all after he publicly resigned and already started his own league.
Looks pretty silly IMO.
Can you Answer why the IFBB is running around scared? I doubt they have much to worry about because nobody big defected so it will take him time to build his thing up.
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If he has any shows on the East Coast Masters Class,I`ll enter them.
OK, but why would you favor them over NPC sanctioned events?
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OK, but why would you favor them over NPC sanctioned events?
I think I got more than a fair shake in the NPC,but I have run into a top IFBB official who I won`t name who I beleive had some influence on my placing several times at the NPC Masters Nationals.
She hates me over an incident that happened way back in 2001 and has done a similar thing back in the day to Paul Dillet on the pro level.
Then I got screwed a few times b=y gym owners who put on shows placing their out of shape glazed donut looking gym members/copmpetitors over me.
I`m a gracious loser,but I have fared much better since competing in NABBA USA,though a lot of great NPC promoters have given me a fair shake no matter how I fared.
Just a few bad apples kind of like an NPC mafia if you will.
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I think I got more than a fair shake in the NPC,but I have run into a top IFBB official who I won`t name who I beleive had some influence on my placing several times at the NPC Masters Nationals.
She hates me over an incident that happened way back in 2001 and has done a similar thing back in the day to Paul Dillet on the pro level.
Then I got screwed a few times b=y gym owners who put on shows placing their out of shape glazed donut looking gym members/copmpetitors over me.
I`m a gracious loser,but I have fared much better since competing in NABBA USA,though a lot of great NPC promoters have given me a fair shake no matter how I fared.
Just a few bad apples kind of like an NPC mafia if you will.
Never knew that the NABBA is also active in the U.S. (why don't we hear anything about their shows?)
Yeah, I was already expecting the politics argument, which makes sense, since I've seen & heard so many things through the years... I believe that too many egos and conflicts of interests are the main reasons for most of these corruptions. Based on Lee's reputation, I highly doubt it that Nspire will be free from this, but time will tell...
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Never knew that the NABBA is also active in the U.S. (why don't we hear anything about their shows?)
Yeah, I was already expecting the politics argument, which makes sense, since I've seen & heard so many things through the years... I believe that too many egos and conflicts of interests are the main reasons for most of these corruptions. Based on Lee's reputation, I highly doubt it that Nspire will be free from this, but time will tell...
NABBAUSA is having a tough time getting competitors because of the NPC.........though they do OK.
The reason you don`t hear or read much about them is because they have no magazine to promote themselves, or to provide profiles on guys/gals or contest info/results.
They do have a website though and favor a more proportioned body over just pure mass.
They`re starting to grow stronger also,thank God as it is a good group.
You can use gear or not,no testing and no questions asked.
I personally choose to use! :D
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NABBAUSA is having a tough time getting competitors because of the NPC.........though they do OK.
The reason you don`t hear or read much about them is because they have no magazine to promote themselves, or to provide profiles on guys/gals or contest info/results.
They do have a website though and favor a more proportioned body over just pure mass.
They`re starting to grow stronger also,thank God as it is a good group.
You can use gear or not,no testing and no questions asked.
I personally choose to use! :D
im disapointed in you wes.. tought you where a natty not a cheater
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im disapointed in you wes.. tought you where a natty not a cheater
Cheating? Hear, hear :D
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Cheating? Hear, hear :D
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haha Great pics
Maybe i should have added "coming from a guy that has never trainws without steroids in his body"0
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im disapointed in you wes.. tought you where a natty not a cheater
I`m a natural cheater Great Leader! ;D
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haha Great pics
Maybe i should have added "coming from a guy that has never trainws without steroids in his body"0
Thousands of wet noodle vaginas, you're the man!
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Can you Answer why the IFBB is running around scared? I doubt they have much to worry about because nobody big defected so it will take him time to build his thing up.
That's a great question I believe that many of us familiar with the industry have...and the recent 'non-agression pact' between Manion and Thompson magnify that.
My best guess is that Thompson has plenty of dirt on them and the more that these 'lone wolves' like Shawn Ray go on the offensive against Thompson with junior high school-type posts, the more they want to keep things quiet.
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That's a great question I believe that many of us familiar with the industry have...and the recent 'non-agression pact' between Manion and Thompson magnify that.
My best guess is that Thompson has plenty of dirt on them and the more that these 'lone wolves' like Shawn Ray go on the offensive against Thompson with junior high school-type posts, the more they want to keep things quiet.
We all know he has lots of dirt on them because after he made that first video you saw how everyone shut up AND nobody addressed his allegations
It's also sad that some people haven't grown at all. Have people noticed that nearly everybody who has had a problem with A certain person has mentioned his backstabbing and how once he gets what he wants (often times through lies and manipulation) he has no problem throwing people to the wolves and bashing them. It's really a shame and I don't know how this person could ever call themselves a journalist. All of the rude comments and enemies this person has made over the years
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We all know he has lots of dirt on them because after he made that first video you saw how everyone shut up AND nobody addressed his allegations
Exactly. And the IFBB had a lot more to gain than Thompson and company with that gag order agreement.
It's also sad that some people haven't grown at all. Have people noticed that nearly everybody who has had a problem with A certain person has mentioned his backstabbing and how once he gets what he wants (often times through lies and manipulation) he has no problem throwing people to the wolves and bashing them. It's really a shame and I don't know how this person could ever call themselves a journalist. All of the rude comments and enemies this person has made over the years
Who is the journalist you're referring to?
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Exactly. And the IFBB had a lot more to gain than Thompson and company with that gag order agreement.
Who is the journalist you're referring to?
I was talking about Shawn.
Honestly from what I have read you have been the most objective about the whole thing. You're doing a good job. You're remaining objective.
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I`m a natural cheater Great Leader! ;D
hahahah excellent answer ypu pass the test
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We all know he has lots of dirt on them because after he made that first video you saw how everyone shut up AND nobody addressed his allegations
It's also sad that some people haven't grown at all. Have people noticed that nearly everybody who has had a problem with A certain person has mentioned his backstabbing and how once he gets what he wants (often times through lies and manipulation) he has no problem throwing people to the wolves and bashing them. It's really a shame and I don't know how this person could ever call themselves a journalist. All of the rude comments and enemies this person has made over the years
Maybe the reason that everyone kept quiet was to not give the situation any oxygen.
To not give the attention seeker any attention.
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Maybe the reason that everyone kept quiet was to not give the situation any oxygen.
To not give the attention seeker any attention.
This could have all been easily squashed at the beginning by saying: "We thank Mr. Thompson for his years of service and wish him well in his new venture. We are not affiliated with NPC Global and we may need to take legal action if necessary." That is the professional way to handle things. Why were they running around like scared jackrabbits and having the pros do these videos about IFBB loyalty and stuff if they weren't scared. It made them seem guilty.
Instead people took it up on themselves to make juvenile memes, comments, and start making personal accusations and then Lee came back with his personal attacks and the whole situation started to go down the drain. I think the truce came when he threatened to say where the bodies were buried. We all know that they are shady because they allowed him to reign for years and he was so horrible according to him. A lot of what he said in that video about the NPC/IFBB has been said for years. Him saying it only confirmed what many already thought.
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I was talking about Shawn.
Honestly from what I have read you have been the most objective about the whole thing. You're doing a good job. You're remaining objective.
Thank you for the compliment, bro. I have the ability to remain objective because I am a real journalist and present both sides of the argument. This industry is full of people who are not journalists at all and have become so used to playing one side of the fence that they believe that to be the way it is supposed to be.
Shawn Ray is actually a guy who I have always liked before and during my time working for Muscular Development. And he was one of the only guys that didn't go with the flow and had a sense of humor. But he has been the epitome of a company man with this entire NPC Global/NSL situation. It's not even comical at this point with him and his posts are worse than a teenage girl's who was not given the attention by the boy she has a crush on.