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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/ben-carson-no-muslim-us-president-trump-obama
Says he doesn't think Obama is a moslem, but that one shouldn't be president. As an agnostic, I wholeheartedly agree. It is a dangerous thing, a cancer.
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Carson is scared shitless of Fiorina rising.
the racists in the base who know trump is a dem idiot are falling in love with her venemous ass fast.
bashing muslims is a great way for Carson to remind the base he's just as hateful/angry as they are. It's funny he can persecute a religion of 1 billion because a few people abuse its findings.
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sez a black man who will not be president.
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If the Muslim guy wants to circumvent the laws of the united states to implement sharia law and ignore the common law of this land, then they absolutely shouldn't be president.
If they leave the laws of this great nation alone, then I don't care.
I think the fear is that someone of the Islamic faith won't leave them alone and will attempt to turn the country into a 3rd world Sharia hell hole, which is a valid worry.
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If the Muslim guy wants to circumvent the laws of the united states to implement sharia law and ignore the common law of this land, then they absolutely shouldn't be president.
If they leave the laws of this great nation alone, then I don't care.
I think the fear is that someone of the Islamic faith won't leave them alone and will attempt to turn the country into a 3rd world Sharia hell hole, which is a valid worry.
You speak many truths here in this post.
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I agree. Just look at what out "moslum" ....er, president is doing now.
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I agree. Just look at what out "moslum" ....er, president is doing now.
Do you actually believe Obama is a Muslim?
Has he implemented Sharia law when we weren't looking?
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Do you actually believe Obama is a Muslim?
Has he implemented Sharia law when we weren't looking?
obama sure has a lot of bad habits for being a muslem. also killing bin laden, yeah...
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Do you actually believe Obama is a Muslim?
Has he implemented Sharia law when we weren't looking?
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100% no doubt in my mind. I'm also convinced he's a full blown traitor. Throw Killary in the traitor column as well.
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q
100% no doubt in my mind. I'm also convinced he's a full blown traitor. Throw Killary in the traitor column as well.
No joke?
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No joke?
Nope. And politics aside, he's just an evil person. Not a person to be trusted in anyway, shape or form.
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Nope.
Damn. Ok then.
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No joke?
Come on TU...are you really surprised by this?
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Come on TU...are you really surprised by this?
I know we have some differences of opinion, but I really didn't think he actually thought that Obama was a Muslim.
I mean, this guy doesn't fast during Ramadan. He doesn't pray towards Mecca. None of the things that Muslims are supposed to do, so I really thought that while he may not like Obama and while he may disagree with his policies, as I do as well sometimes, he didn't actually think he was Muslim.
I thought it was just one of those things people say to voice displeasure at someone.
Like calling someone a "fag", when they aren't.
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Sacrifice the general election to out-crazy everyone in the primaries!
Carson acted mature and dignified for a few weeks, but seeing Fiorina rise with her ficticious lies about that video, he has to out-crazy her,
WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation's largest Muslim advocacy group says lawmakers from across the political spectrum should repudiate Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson's comments that the Islamic faith is inconsistent with the Constitution and that he would not agree with a Muslim being elected president.
Ibrahim Hooper is a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations and says the Constitution expressly prohibits a religious test to qualify for elected office.
Hooper says Carson's comments show he is not qualified for the presidency because he cannot hold such views about a religion and at the same time say he will represent Americans of all faiths and backgrounds............. ....
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:8af32c5d5777444a9a21e909 b3c35d5d
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I know we have some differences of opinion, but I really didn't think he actually thought that Obama was a Muslim.
I mean, this guy doesn't fast during Ramadan. He doesn't pray towards Mecca. None of the things that Muslims are supposed to do, so I really thought that while he may not like Obama and while he may disagree with his policies, as I do as well sometimes, he didn't actually think he was Muslim.
I thought it was just one of those things people say to voice displeasure at someone.
Like calling someone a "fag", when they aren't.
He could always be a non-practicing Muslim just like there are non practicing Christians but they still believe and turn to "Allah". You really haven't seen his favoritism towards Muslims but shuns Christians? Seriously?
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I know we have some differences of opinion, but I really didn't think he actually thought that Obama was a Muslim.
I mean, this guy doesn't fast during Ramadan. He doesn't pray towards Mecca. None of the things that Muslims are supposed to do, so I really thought that while he may not like Obama and while he may disagree with his policies, as I do as well sometimes, he didn't actually think he was Muslim.
I thought it was just one of those things people say to voice displeasure at someone.
Like calling someone a "fag", when they aren't.
yep, everything you said makes perfect sense so it confuses you how Joe (and people like him) can believe what he wrote
and there we are
is he crazy, stupid...crazy and stupid?
maybe just misinformed?
perhaps a brain tumor?
your rational mind can't understand how guys like Joe can actually have those beliefs
here's the real question
what do you do when you find out these are his genuine beliefs?
how do you deal with him going forward from there?
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He has like 75% approval rating with Muslims. Hahaha.
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He has like 75% approval rating with Muslims. Hahaha.
He ordered the killing of bin laden
Therefore at least 75% of Muslims supported the killing of bin laden.
Right, coach?
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Trump was happy to go on NBC this AM and out-hate Carson at his own anti-muslim game.
DONALD TRUMP: “Some People Say” We’ve Already Had a Muslim President
Billionaire businessman Donald Trump destroyed UpChuck Todd today on “Meet the Press” not falling into several of the liberal media host’s traps. It was just another day at the office for Donald Trump batting away a liberal talking head’s biased questions. Trump would not apologize for not defending Obama saying, “Obama is a capable guy.” Obviously, the media disagrees Trump also was unafraid to call out the “severe problem with Muslims” in the world today. And, Trump also told Todd that there was no way in hell Obama would ever defend him, so get over it.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/donald-trump-calls-out-the-very-severe-problem-with-some-muslims-in-the-us-video/
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100% no doubt in my mind. I'm also convinced he's a full blown traitor. Throw Killary in the traitor column as well.
That is because your mind is filled with stupidity, delusions, and two brain cells.
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yeah, everyone had their mouths ajar in disgust as she described that video.
But she changed a shitload of details. Just made up some. I'd happily cut PP's funding, in a minute - but I also admit she just lied to get people worked up. It helped in the polls temporarily, but she's a liar, and its a HORRIBLE thing to exaggerate.
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"Factcheck.org" "politico" "vox" 'politifact" "Yahoo"........yeah. Hahahahahaha
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"Factcheck.org" "politico" "vox" 'politifact" "Yahoo"........yeah. Hahahahahaha
Coach -
Where is the video she claims? Link to it. Unless she has access to some top-secret video that we do not...
please link the horrible video she's daring us to watch.
She embellished details - own it, admit it. (No Bill-O)
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He could always be a non-practicing Muslim just like there are non practicing Christians but they still believe and turn to "Allah". You really haven't seen his favoritism towards Muslims but shuns Christians? Seriously?
Can you describe this favoritism?
What has he done to show this? I mean. Maybe this kid coming to the whitehouse, but other than that. What favoritism?
I'm willing to listen, I'm just unsure of what you're seeing that I'm missing.
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how do you deal with him going forward from there?
I will treat him the same. I think he's wrong, but I do think deep down he (Coach) tries to be a good person, which is the most important thing to me.
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I will treat him the same. I think he's wrong, but I do think deep down he (Coach) tries to be a good person, which is the most important thing to me.
I'm sure Joe is a "good person" somewhere along the way but he's told you he believes something that seems crazy ......or?
you're telling me you've identified a crazy person and you don't make any adjustments in how you even think about them much less how you interact with them
(ps: I assume we agree that Joe is just crazy but harmless with a large dash of stupid)
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He ordered the killing of bin laden
Therefore at least 75% of Muslims supported the killing of bin laden.
Right, coach?
Obama wanted to recind every order that Bush ever implemented. That would have included BinLaden. It was his advisors that told him to not fuck it up. Remember? Obama didn't do shit except reluctantly say "go" he's a fucktard to enth degree.
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I'm sure Joe is a "good person" somewhere along the way but he's told you he believes something that seems crazy ......or?
you're telling me you've identified a crazy person and you don't make any adjustments in how you even think about them much less how you interact with them
(ps: I assume we agree that Joe is just crazy but harmless with a large dash of stupid)
Shut up stupid...
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Obama wanted to recind every order that Bush ever implemented. That would have included BinLaden. It was his advisors that told him to not fuck it up. Remember? Obama didn't do shit except reluctantly say "go" he's a fucktard to enth degree.
Where did you see this?
Seems he just kept on trucking with everything Bush did. Kept the Bush time lines for withdrawal and everything.
Patriot act and all that shit.
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Obama wanted to recind every order that Bush ever implemented. That would have included BinLaden. It was his advisors that told him to not fuck it up. Remember? Obama didn't do shit except reluctantly say "go" he's a fucktard to enth degree.
is this about what obama WANTED, or what he actually DID?
Are we referring to what someone desires, which affects us in zero way... OR
What they actually do, which actually affects teh world.
You don't support obama for the good thing he actually DID, but you're very upset about the thing he never did. Right?
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Obama wanted to recind every order that Bush ever implemented. That would have included BinLaden. It was his advisors that told him to not fuck it up. Remember? Obama didn't do shit except reluctantly say "go" he's a fucktard to enth degree.
No. It was Bush that stated he "didn't even think about Bin Laden anymore".
It's laughable how delusional you are and the lengths you will go to trying to pass them off as facts simply because Obama owns your head.
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Obl kills 3000 Americans and our pres bush doesn't think about him. Very good point man
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No. It was Bush that stated he "didn't even think about Bin Laden anymore".
It's laughable how delusional you are and the lengths you will go to trying to pass them off as facts simply because Obama owns your head.
I swear to God youre an idiot. That wasn't even close to what I was saying.
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I swear to God youre an idiot. That wasn't even close to what I was saying.
It doesn't matter what you are saying, it is all stupid drivel. That is what everyone on this board expects from you.
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Obl kills 3000 Americans and our pres bush doesn't think about him. Very good point man
NO Bush didn't think about him but his guys at JSOC thought about him every fucking day since 9-11. Bush made sure they got everything they wanted and ol Barry just had to sit and shit in his diaper and they finally got him. Obama did nothing but get in the way a few times and finally get out of the way when it counted.
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NO Bush didn't think about him but his guys at JSOC thought about him every fucking day since 9-11. Bush made sure they got everything they wanted and ol Barry just had to sit and shit in his diaper and they finally got him. Obama did nothing but get in the way a few times and finally get out of the way when it counted.
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Life must be terrible having to wake up every day and believe such delusions to make yourself feel better.
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I'd ask you the same question as your guy has killed the country and you idiots just smile and wave. But back to the point......
Bush built JSOC to the capabilities that it had a chance to kill Bin Laden. TF 19 and TF 17 spent years tracking Bin Laden. They were doing all the things that the squishy ass libs like Obama whined and complained about. All the BS about water boarding working or not working....they tracked Bin Laden for years. Bush gave that answer because unlike the fully documented indifference to intelligence that Obama shows, Bush was paying attention and not tiping his hand. Obama couldnt wait to take credit and was ready to find a fall guy in ADM. McRaven had shit gone south. You guy is a traitorous shitbag....get over it.
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Shut up stupid...
too stupid to even know how to post a youtube link?
this it this point TU
personally I'm going with healthy mix of crazy and stupid
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I'd ask you the same question as your guy has killed the country and you idiots just smile and wave. But back to the point......
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...you and trump are much alike...can't dispute or argue with facts so.....posts some idiotic meme.
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Does this mean that Carson hadn't previously thought about someone trying to trap him on this issue?
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He could always be a non-practicing Muslim just like there are non practicing Christians but they still believe and turn to "Allah". You really haven't seen his favoritism towards Muslims but shuns Christians? Seriously?
You're hatred of the guy overshadows your common sense. To believe he is Muslim means you are willing to disregard irrefutable evidence to the contrary which renders your opinions in the matter worthless... damn dude.. wake up and use your brain
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Obama is a secular progressive...he's neither muslim nor Christian. His "christianity" is for show. He sat in a church with a guy who hates whites....not sure what Obama thinks but he was in that church for his own political gain and nothing more.
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Shut up stupid...
But him then correcting and saying "my christian faith" isn't valid?
I mean, he was asked specifically about whether or not he was a Muslim in that question. The word Muslim is on the brain.
Have you never called one of your ex wives by the wrong name?
Obama is a secular progressive...he's neither muslim nor Christian. His "christianity" is for show. He sat in a church with a guy who hates whites....not sure what Obama thinks but he was in that church for his own political gain and nothing more.
Most Presidents go to church for political gain and nothing more.
What Carson is right about is that right now, in this country, an overt Muslim will not be President. That's just a fact.
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But him then correcting and saying "my christian faith" isn't valid?
I mean, he was asked specifically about whether or not he was a Muslim in that question. The word Muslim is on the brain.
Have you never called one of your ex wives by the wrong name?
Most Presidents go to church for political gain and nothing more.
What Carson is right about is that right now, in this country, an overt Muslim will not be President. That's just a fact.
Sadly, an overt Atheist would never be elected either
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When it comes down to it, no one but Obama knows what he believes.
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Obama is a secular progressive...he's neither muslim nor Christian. His "christianity" is for show. He sat in a church with a guy who hates whites....not sure what Obama thinks but he was in that church for his own political gain and nothing more.
This is what I'd tend to believe, too. I wouldn't refer to him as a "progressive", though. Isn't that the new word for "liberal" or something?
With the way these terms are thrown around all day, you'd think we'd be trying to define them in order to stay on the same page.
Can anyone define these political terms?
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...you and trump are much alike...can't dispute or argue with facts so.....posts some idiotic meme.
By facts, you mean those things you run from and pretend do not exist?
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...you and trump are much alike...can't dispute or argue with facts so.....posts some idiotic meme.
Truth.
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You're hatred of the guy overshadows your common sense. To believe he is Muslim means you are willing to disregard irrefutable evidence to the contrary which renders your opinions in the matter worthless... damn dude.. wake up and use your brain
I wouldn't call it "irrefutable evidence." I doubt he is Muslim, but I also question whether he is a Christian.
I was watching a clip someone spliced together with comments he has made about Islam. Doesn't prove that he is a Muslim, but he is certainly a fan of Islam. Definitely speaks more glowingly of Islam than he does of Christianity. Funniest part was when he mistakenly referred to himself as a Muslim.
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Sadly, an overt Atheist would never be elected either
We'd probably see a muslim elected before an atheist (even a non-overt one).
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I wonder what Hillary thinks? :)
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I wonder what Hillary thinks? :)
LOL, you were listening to Hannity today?
He did a nice long rant on why all this "obama is a muslim" talk is hilary's fault. insinuating it once, 8 years ago, vs the tea party MFers that have said it daily since then, huh?
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yeah, i bet obama believes in one thing - his own power, derived from growing dem numbers. Period. That's it.
I bet he subscribes to no religion, just claims christian when handy, and flirts muslim because it motivates dem base.
I'm tired of idiots claiming obama is somehow simultaneously a socialist, marxist, communist, radical, muslim, athiest. He cannot be all of these things lol, as much as they want it to be so.
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yeah, i bet obama believes in one thing - his own power, derived from growing dem numbers. Period. That's it.
I bet he subscribes to no religion, just claims christian when handy, and flirts muslim because it motivates dem base.
I'm tired of idiots claiming obama is somehow simultaneously a socialist, marxist, communist, radical, muslim, athiest. He cannot be all of these things lol, as much as they want it to be so.
you said it. that's right.
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Carson Campaign officially backing down.
“He did not say that a Muslim should be prevented from running, or barred from running in any way,” campaign spokesman Doug Watts said. “He just doesn’t believe the American people are ready for that.”
http://www.breitbart.com/news/carson-asked-to-drop-out-of-gop-race-after-remarks-opposing-muslim-president/
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Carson having to back pedal now.
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Carson giving press conference now. Turning into a wimp. "What I said earlier is that it'd be okay, as long as they beloved in constitution... It's about all religions, not just Muslims..."
Trying to have it both ways, saying he was misinterpreted. Funny how a dude talks and talks and talks and just makes it muddier.
Carson has a lot of things, but he doesn't have balls.
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"When the situation arises, let's talk about it then" - Ben Carson
There you have it. This verbal bomb thrower who can't stop trashing Muslims is suddenly scared to commit to a position he doubled down on, 2 days ago. Yeah, everyone who loved him because he isn't a politician? Carson sure is acting like a politician now.
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He is right and he didn't say anything wrong, but he needs to learn how to avoid these set-up questions.
Ben Carson Slams 'PC' Media, Says Muslim Comments Were 'Theoretical'
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=be814ee0-2ab7-4858-a849-b8535746f560&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Ben Carson Slams 'PC' Media, Says Muslim Comments Were 'Theoretical' (Photo by Sean Rayford/Getty Images)
By Sandy Fitzgerald
Tuesday, 22 Sep 2015
GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson slammed the media and pundits who've been critical of him over 'theoretical' comments he made about supporting a hypothetical Muslim president.
"When the situation arises, and we have someone in that situation, we'll talk about it. Why get off into a theoretical situation? There's so many important issues. Why is it people are not interested in the important issues that are going on?" he said during a Tuesday press conference in Ohio. He mentioned the refugee situation in Syria and the problems going on with the American educational system as examples.
Carson doubled down saying any president of any faith has to place the Constitution abover personal religious beliefs.
"They must place it above their personal beliefs," Carson said during an appearance in Sharonville, Ohio. "If you're not willing to do that, you should not be running for president."
But Carson said he does see a way to support a more moderate Muslim for office, complaining that his comments were misunderstood and that "it seems hard for people to actually hear English and understand it."
"I said I would support anyone regardless of their background, if in fact, they embrace American values and our Constitution, and are willing to place that above their beliefs," Carson told the press conference, held before his scheduled rally.
But he said he could not back Muslims who embrace Sharia law, which is "completely antithetical to Americanism."
Carson told reporters that he knows he has gotten bad press and comments from his initial comments, made on NBC's "Meet the Press" program Sunday, but "the only way we fix that is to fix the PC culture in our country [where people] can listen to one narrative and if it doesn't fit their philosophy, then they have to try to ascribe some motive to make it fit."
The PC culture, said Carson, means that if a question isn't answered in a certain way, "let's attack and let's not try to actually understand what a person is saying."
Carson said he has heard from several Muslim-Americans whom he worked with, trained, or even operated on during his career as a neurosurgeon, and they have told him they understand what he is talking about.
But at the same time, "there is no question that our Constitution, and our traditions, have a Judeo-Christian base," and most Americans believe in those values, "but we never should have a theocracy."
Carson supporters attending the rally said they agree with his comments on a Muslim president, reports The Cincinnati Enquirer.
"And I think it's awesome he's doubled down (on his comments about a Muslim president)," one supporter told the newspaper.
Late Monday night, Carson also retreated slightly from his Sunday comments, telling Fox News that he would be open to a moderate Muslim who denounced radical Islam as a White House candidate. But he also said he stood by his original comments, saying the country cannot elect people "whose faith might interfere with carrying out the duties of the Constitution."
"If you're a Christian and you're running for president and you want to make this into a theocracy, I'm not going to support you," Carson told Fox News host Sean Hannity in an interview to be broadcast later Monday. "I'm not going to advocate you being the president."
Carson said members of the Islamic faith who are willing to accept the American way of life "will be considered infidels and heretics, but at least then I will be quite willing to support them."
The intensifying political fallout is a distraction at least as the retired neurosurgeon tries to capitalize on recent momentum in the unruly GOP field. But it also highlights a sentiment among voters in both parties who agree with Carson's reluctance to elect a Muslim to the nation's highest office.
Carson's campaign reported strong fundraising and more than 100,000 new Facebook friends in the 24 hours after he told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday: "I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation."
His campaign manager Barry Bennett told The Associated Press on Monday: "While the left wing is huffing and puffing over it, Republican primary voters are with us at least 80-20."
"People in Iowa particularly, are like, 'Yeah! We're not going to vote for a Muslim either,'" Bennett said. "I don't mind the hubbub. It's not hurting us, that's for sure."
The head of the nation's largest Muslim advocacy group called on Carson to drop out of the 2016 presidential contest during a Capitol Hill press conference on Monday, declaring him "unfit to lead because his views are in contradiction with the United States Constitution."
"Not long ago, some people thought that a Catholic cannot be a president, an African-American cannot be a president," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic relations. "They were wrong then, and they are wrong now."
He cited Article 6 in the Constitution, which states, "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
A couple of Republican candidates joined a chorus of Democrats condemning Carson's statement.
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday that the comment "shows that Dr. Carson is not ready to be commander in chief."
Businesswoman Carly Fiorina also denounced rival Carson's recent comments about not wanting a Muslim elected to the White House.
"Well I think that's wrong," said Fiorina. "You know it says in our Constitution that religion cannot be a test for office."
The leading Democratic presidential candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressed the issue Monday on Twitter: "Can a Muslim be President of the United States of America? In a word: Yes. Now let's move on."
While the law is clear, the politics of Muslim culture in America are not. Fourteen years after Islamic extremists executed the deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history, a suspicious stance resonates with some voters despite the fact that — as Democratic Sen. Harry Reid put it Monday — "they teach in our schools, fight in our military and serve in Congress."
The U.S. Muslim population is growing, according to a May survey by the Pew Research Center, which found the group represented just under 1 percent of the U.S. population.
A June Gallup poll found that 54 percent of Republicans would not vote for a well-qualified Muslim nominee from their own party; 39 percent of independents and 27 percent of Democrats said the same.
"Carson is not going to lose any votes in a GOP primary with those comments," said GOP strategist John Feehery. "He could probably gain a few."
Indeed, conservatives have repeatedly embraced anti-Muslim sentiment in recent years.
Nineteen states introduced legislation in 2015 to restrict the use of foreign law in state courts, Republican-backed steps largely designed to block the influence of Shariah — the legal framework that regulates many aspects of life based on the Quran and Islamic tradition in some Muslim countries.
Nine states have already implemented such laws, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
And conservatives have consistently tried to link President Barack Obama to Islam throughout his presidency, using imaginary religious ties.
Republican front-runner Donald Trump declined last week to correct a voter who inaccurately stated that Obama is a Muslim. For Trump, the election of a Muslim president was "something that could happen. Would I be comfortable? I don't know if we have to address it right now."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ben-carson-constitution-muslim-president/2015/09/22/id/692713/#ixzz3mUI9Mp1j
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He is right and he didn't say anything wrong, but he needs to learn how to avoid these set-up questions.
he spent the entire weekend doubling down on the idiotic comments.
Come Monday, suddenly they're just "hypothetical" and he's a "victim" of the mean media.
Look, he was trying to out-hate the Fiorinas and Trumps of the race. Those most impressed by it donated all weekend, and aren't noticing monday morning news to see the retraction. Carson is wisely playing politics, and it'll bump him a bit.
If you pay attention to politics, you see this all the time. Say something crazy to dominate the weekend donor cycle, quietly walk it back on msnbc on monday AM. (fox morning wasn't even covering his backtracking LMAO), it wasn't live. Trump does it 2-3 times a month. Make a period joke on friday night, get the donations all weekend, then quietly back it up monday AM.
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he spent the entire weekend doubling down on the idiotic comments.
Come Monday, suddenly they're just "hypothetical" and he's a "victim" of the mean media.
How many times do you get to repeat and enforce something before the option to claim later that you "misspoke" runs out?
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How many times do you get to repeat and enforce something before the option to claim later that you "misspoke" runs out?
Watch for it - you'll notice it now.
1) Late thurs/early Friday, politician makes incredibly offensive, pandering, rude, crass statement to appeal to the very angry base.
2) All weekend, enjoy the buzz on sunday shows. The base is home all weekend (libs party while repubs watch morning news shows) - so the base donates over the weekend and rallies on message boards.
3) Monday morning, a quiet call to msnbc or a press conference (that fox ignores) allows candidate to retract the absurd, inflammatory statement as a misunderstanding, misspeaking, or mistake. All is okay now :)
It happens a lot. Some candidates TRY but the media doesn't pick up their story. I bet Carson fundraising this past weekend was the best he's seen in a month. And the loyal sheep get to read this Monday AM and repeat some weak drivel like "He is right and he didn't say anything wrong, but he needs to learn how to avoid these set-up questions."
Predictable. It's just politics.
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I know we have some differences of opinion, but I really didn't think he actually thought that Obama was a Muslim.
I mean, this guy doesn't fast during Ramadan. He doesn't pray towards Mecca. None of the things that Muslims are supposed to do, so I really thought that while he may not like Obama and while he may disagree with his policies, as I do as well sometimes, he didn't actually think he was Muslim.
I thought it was just one of those things people say to voice displeasure at someone.
Like calling someone a "fag", when they aren't.
Not to nitpicking but didn't the 9/11 Muslims avoid acting like true Muslims( drinking alcohol,going to strip clubs,not praying to Mecca) as to not draw attention/suspicion upon themselves?
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Not to nitpicking but didn't the 9/11 Muslims avoid acting like true Muslims( drinking alcohol,going to strip clubs,not praying to Mecca) as to not draw attention/suspicion upon themselves?
No idea.
Why would they have? Did you worry about the muslim scourge before 9/11? Most people didn't that I can think of.
Most people just ignored whatever they did and moved on.
It wasn't until after 9/11 that people start to sit and take notice of what Muslims were doing specifically.
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Yes I was NYPD,had been around during the first trade center bombing and was uniquely aware of the radical Muslim scrourge
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Yes I was NYPD,had been around during the first trade center bombing and was uniquely aware of the radical Muslim scrourge
I think you are overplaying what people saw at the time. While you may be one of the few, most people just didn't care.
Now they do.
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Funny this guy didn't learn from Trump. You don't waffle on this shit, you own it. You say what's on your mind and then commit to it, it would probably blow over. Now, it'll be news until the next idiot says something stupid.
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Funny this guy didn't learn from Trump. You don't waffle on this shit, you own it. You say what's on your mind and then commit to it, it would probably blow over. Now, it'll be news until the next idiot says something stupid.
He didn't waffle. They used an out-of-context soundbite. He is actually standing by his comments. I wouldn't support a Muslim who wanted to enact Sharia law either. But there is no Muslim candidate running, so it was a pretty dumb "gotcha" question. He shouldn't even have answered it.
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He didn't waffle. They used an out-of-context soundbite. He is actually standing by his comments. I wouldn't support a Muslim who wanted to enact Sharia law either. But there is no Muslim candidate running, so it was a pretty dumb "gotcha" question. He shouldn't even have answered it.
I recall 2011/2012 very clearly... you were one of the people that still believed hermann Cruz "has not done a single inappropriate thing in 43 years of marriage" lol.
Of course, once sexting and 11 years of paying off a lesbian mistress came out... well...
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I recall 2011/2012 very clearly... you were one of the people that still believed hermann Cruz "has not done a single inappropriate thing in 43 years of marriage" lol.
Of course, once sexting and 11 years of paying off a lesbian mistress came out... well...
Is that a quote from me, you lying liar?
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Is that a quote from me, you lying liar?
Don't need it.
Everyone here knows you kiss ass every republican.
Everyone here knows I shit on everyone - Hilary erased to cover up, Obama should be impeached for F+F, Trump is a democrat, and Ben Carson stepped in shit on this one.
So yeah, you are going to defend Carson no matter what here, everyone knows that.
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Don't need it.
Everyone here knows you kiss ass every republican.
Everyone here knows I shit on everyone - Hilary erased to cover up, Obama should be impeached for F+F, Trump is a democrat, and Ben Carson stepped in shit on this one.
So yeah, you are going to defend Carson no matter what here, everyone knows that.
::) Every reasonable, honest person here knows you are a compulsive lying troll.
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Carson now trying to out-dumb Carly on Darwinism. Internal polls must show her overtaking him with his base. Cause Carson is tripling down on stupid now