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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Army of One on September 21, 2015, 02:46:03 AM
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16 pictures, 16 thousand words.
This is priceless.
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16 pictures, 16 thousand words.
This is priceless.
The divorce is even funnier
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lol @ the Heeb swooping in :D
edit: lol ^^^^^
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Haha. The divorce one is hilarious. ;D
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Holy shit that's funny.
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that's exactly it
single for the win
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Haha. The divorce one is hilarious. ;D
X2. Especially the pof fattie with high standards so he just chooses to fap to Sasha Grey. ;D
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Im really depressed now.
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I'm the one who fucks the wife/divorced female so I'm good with it
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I'm the one who fucks the wife/divorced female so I'm good with it
If you are in the US, you might want to be careful with that. A lot of men aren't the "cry in the corner" type. You might find yourself on the business end of a large firearm.
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If you are in the US, you might want to be careful with that. A lot of men aren't the "cry in the corner" type. You might find yourself on the business end of a large firearm.
If this is true, then for every man who finds out their wife is having an affair, there should be a bullet wound or wounds logged at the hospital to go with it.I'm not seeing that on the stats?
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If you are in the US, you might want to be careful with that. A lot of men aren't the "cry in the corner" type. You might find yourself on the business end of a large firearm.
you describe something very rare as only the cry in the corner types are getting married now. Normal men worth anything will not get married in these days regardless "how unique and special" he thinks the girl hes seeing is.
Only weak fools would get married, stop the excuses about wanting kids and the not being selfish BS, stay single and childless and you will be more of a help to yourself and the planet.
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If you are in the US, you might want to be careful with that. A lot of men aren't the "cry in the corner" type. You might find yourself on the business end of a large firearm.
you said in this thread that those comics made you really depressed. Are there things ;D ?
don't let females fool you, bro. Find'em, fool'em, fuck'em, forget'em. 4 F club, bro!
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this thread shall be the official "fuck these hoes" thread
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Sounds like a bunch of "men" who can't keep women in their place, and then bitch and moan.
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Sounds like a bunch of "men" who can't keep women in their place, and then bitch and moan.
you tell'em
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Funny pics in here. On a serious note, im at the part in the first pic "i want kids" stage...ive not caving but its so hard to say no eventhough i dont want them. Shes done alot for me, so sometimes im like "maybe i should i owe her that". If we dont have kids she is going to regret it and hate me for it, so its a really hard decision. And to those who think is all aout money and how i need to save myself...she makes double what i make
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you describe something very rare as only the cry in the corner types are getting married now. Normal men worth anything will not get married in these days regardless "how unique and special" he thinks the girl hes seeing is.
Only weak fools would get married, stop the excuses about wanting kids and the not being selfish BS, stay single and childless and you will be more of a help to yourself and the planet.
The no marriage/MGTOW movement is catching on, but there are still millions of men who get married and end up being wage/debt slaves for their wives. Just go to any mall over the weekend and observe all the men pushing baby strollers.
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Funny pics in here. On a serious note, im at the part in the first pic "i want kids" stage...ive not caving but its so hard to say no eventhough i dont want them. Shes done alot for me, so sometimes im like "maybe i should i owe her that". If we dont have kids she is going to regret it and hate me for it, so its a really hard decision. And to those who think is all aout money and how i need to save myself...she makes double what i make
But you are caving it. Once the sperm donation is complete, it's over and you are DONE. She basically owns you.
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Funny pics in here. On a serious note, im at the part in the first pic "i want kids" stage...ive not caving but its so hard to say no eventhough i dont want them. Shes done alot for me, so sometimes im like "maybe i should i owe her that". If we dont have kids she is going to regret it and hate me for it, so its a really hard decision. And to those who think is all aout money and how i need to save myself...she makes double what i make
I don't know what you two have been through, but just because she has helped you out, like a partner should help his/her partner out it doesn't mean that you owe her children. Children aren't objects to bargain with and definitely not something that should make you feel that way.
You have to be honest to her. "but then she might leave me"... listen bro, if you have children with her just because you feel you owe it to her, then that will be the course of your life when the kid is finally born. At least it's a huge risk.
Rather be honest and bite your lips. Too fucking bad if you two break up, you'll survive.
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But you are caving it. Once the sperm donation is complete, it's over and you are DONE. She basically owns you.
Truth.
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But you are caving it. Once the sperm donation is complete, it's over and you are DONE. She basically owns you.
Good point.
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Some getbiggers moan about marriage yet they have no gf. :-\
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Some getbiggers moan about marriage yet they have no gf. :-\
It's always the same unmarried posters telling us over and over again about marriage.
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LOL awesome
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I'm on stage 4 :o
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The no marriage/MGTOW movement is catching on, but there are still millions of men who get married and end up being wage/debt slaves for their wives. Just go to any mall over the weekend and observe all the men pushing baby strollers.
One of the many reasons its catching on is because what sane men observe in malls
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Marriage is easy when you.....oh what's that word....tip of my tongue.........always forget it.......wait, got it...."love".......yes, when you actually "love" the person you marry it's easy.
Now, if you "love" the person and get married in accordance with......wait.....what's that other word.....just had it......it's right there......"God".....yes, when you actually "love" the person and get married in accordance with "God" in your life it's easy.
What am I talkin about though? "Love" and "God" LOL? That's for weak-bodied, weak-minded sheep men in this fabulous 21st century of evolved, uber tolerant free thinkers. ::)
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It's always the same unmarried posters telling us over and over again about marriage.
You want married people who are pickled in real bad to tell you the truth? Hae ya looked at the divorce rate? Have you checked how many order of protections are filed by disgruntled men and women every day in NYC alone? Do you care to see the truth at all or do you prefer to live in fantasy land all the way into divorce court from where you will emerge naked and hunched over?
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Marriage is easy when you.....oh what's that word....tip of my tongue.........always forget it.......wait, got it...."love".......yes, when you actually "love" the person you marry it's easy.
Now, if you "love" the person and get married in accordance with......wait.....what's that other word.....just had it......it's right there......"God".....yes, when you actually "love" the person and get married in accordance with "God" in your life it's easy.
What am I talkin about though? "Love" and "God" LOL? That's for weak-bodied, weak-minded sheep men in this fabulous 21st century of evolved, uber tolerant free thinkers. ::)
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they'd interact with others for the rest of their life. They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They're insecure because they're girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesn't cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They're not as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they don't know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attempting to cure their insecurity, but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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You want married people who are pickled in real bad to tell you the truth? Hae ya looked at the divorce rate? Have you checked how many order of protections are filed by disgruntled men and women every day in NYC alone? Do you care to see the truth at all or do you prefer to live in fantasy land all the way into divorce court from where you will emerge naked and hunched over?
I don't need anyone to tell me the truth, I'm judging it based on my experience and those in my circles. And you guys always quote "facts" and numbers with no context, and context is everything - there's a big difference between people making a mistake and getting divorced in a short amount of time, and the situations posted above. But both, and many more, situations are in your data.
But the "fact" still remains it's the same handful of unmarried posters who flock to these threads, tell all of us the way it is.
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I don't need anyone to tell me the truth, I'm judging it based on my experience and those in my circles. And you guys always quote "facts" and numbers with no context, and context is everything - there's a big difference between people making a mistake and getting divorced in a short amount of time, and the situations posted above. But both, and many more, situations are in your data.
But the "fact" still remains it's the same handful of unmarried posters who flock to these threads, tell all of us the way it is.
you ft the bill of the weakling that gets screwed really bad by a woman, I have no doubt you will get hurt bad, you have the romance desire, the desire that blinds and soon enough you will get hurt, not just average hurt but real badly hurt.
I dont know you and wish you well, however there are certain traits that guarantee getting screwed by a female, the way you showcased your fantasy tells the sad tale.
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There's nothing wrong with having a family. Most of the nonsense can be avoided by not marrying a woman from the "western" culture.
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Marriage is easy when you.....oh what's that word....tip of my tongue.........always forget it.......wait, got it...."love".......yes, when you actually "love" the person you marry it's easy.
Now, if you "love" the person and get married in accordance with......wait.....what's that other word.....just had it......it's right there......"God".....yes, when you actually "love" the person and get married in accordance with "God" in your life it's easy.
What am I talkin about though? "Love" and "God" LOL? That's for weak-bodied, weak-minded sheep men in this fabulous 21st century of evolved, uber tolerant free thinkers. ::)
Love it! You guys are awesome.
There is nothing like real love that is built on something solid. It's not about money or any of that nonsense. I see so many pathetic men in their 40's and 50's trying to live like 20 year olds and it's sad. Contrary to what people say, men do like to come home to SOMETHING whether it's a wife or kids. The ones that don't have something to come home to are always traveling for work so they don't have to come to the silence and maybe the random chick.
Now it is up to the woman to help create that atmosphere of peace so he WANTS to come back home and doesn't feel stressed out. As a woman it's easier to do that when you actually respect your husband as a man because he behaves like an adult.
I liked the cartoons though.
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you ft the bill of the weakling that gets screwed really bad by a woman, I have no doubt you will get hurt bad, you have the romance desire, the desire that blinds and soon enough you will get hurt, not just average hurt but real badly hurt.
I dont know you and wish you well, however there are certain traits that guarantee getting screwed by a female, the way you showcased your fantasy tells the sad tale.
You couldn't be more off the mark. But enjoy your projections.
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Marriage is easy when you.....oh what's that word....tip of my tongue.........always forget it.......wait, got it...."love".......yes, when you actually "love" the person you marry it's easy.
Now, if you "love" the person and get married in accordance with......wait.....what's that other word.....just had it......it's right there......"God".....yes, when you actually "love" the person and get married in accordance with "God" in your life it's easy.
What am I talkin about though? "Love" and "God" LOL? That's for weak-bodied, weak-minded sheep men in this fabulous 21st century of evolved, uber tolerant free thinkers. ::)
Once again, wishful thinking. The divorce horrors going on today do not justify the risks. Everyone fighting it out today and taking anti depressants because of a nasty breakup was once in love and many even had the imaginary god bs going on too.
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You couldn't be more off the mark. But enjoy your projections.
You are using the same old lines when you realize the truth is being spoken.
While you are at it please also tell me i'm ignorant, projecting, insecure etc
One thing I did notice, the men who take anti depressants / pain meds after a while become these desperate romantic lunatics, I will wait for science to explain how these this correlate.
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Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they'd interact with others for the rest of their life. They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They're insecure because they're girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesn't cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They're not as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they don't know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attempting to cure their insecurity, but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
My answer to this dilemma is simple in order to break the cycle. Someone has to step up and step out and do the following:
first, love God and let him lead your life
second, love the one you marry
third, love the children you have together
four, love your family and teach your family to love God and each other
Engage in that behavior and success rates in marriage and family are very high.
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My answer to this dilemma is simple in order to break the cycle. Someone has to step up and step out and do the following:
first, love God and let him lead your life
second, love the one you marry
third, love the children you have together
four, love your family and teach your family to love God and each other
Engage in that behavior and success rates in marriage and family are very high.
some of the nastiest divorces in the USA can be found in the Bible belt.
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Once again, wishful thinking. The divorce horrors going on today do not justify the risks. Everyone fighting it out today and taking anti depressants because of a nasty breakup was once in love and many even had the imaginary god bs going on too.
Many people are getting married for the wrong reasons. They get married because they don't want to be lonely anymore, they hate being alone, or because they want people to take care of them. Some want to get married because it's a status thing. Some want attention and to feel wanted.
You guys have to be on the same page about what you want out of life and you have to be in agreement that you're going to commit to making it work. Perhaps the reason most relationships fail is because they were never based on anything solid. It was all superficial BS. Money, status, popularity, looks, sex.
That's why I say if you're going to get married, then you need to marry someone who is your friend first. Someone you enjoy hanging out with and being around.
Once the problems come along there was never any foundation so they blow over.
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Many people are getting married for the wrong reasons. They get married because they don't want to be lonely anymore, they hate being alone, or because they want people to take care of them. Some want to get married because it's a status thing. Some want attention and to feel wanted.
You guys have to be on the same page about what you want out of life and you have to be in agreement that you're going to commit to making it work. Perhaps the reason most relationships fail is because they were never based on anything solid. It was all superficial BS. Money, status, popularity, looks, sex.
That's why I say if you're going to get married, then you need to marry someone who is your friend first. Someone you enjoy hanging out with and being around.
Once the problems come along there was never any foundation so they blow over.
Spot on. great post.
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You are using the same old lines when you realize the truth is being spoken.
While you are at it please also tell me i'm ignorant, projecting, insecure etc
One thing I did notice, the men who take anti depressants / pain meds after a while become these desperate romantic lunatics, I will wait for science to explain how these this correlate.
Why bother discussing? Stick with your theories while those who are experiencing the opposite do the same. You've made up your mind. Roll with it.
Oh, and...
One thing I did notice, the men.
....Gayer than noticing men.....
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you describe something very rare as only the cry in the corner types are getting married now. Normal men worth anything will not get married in these days regardless "how unique and special" he thinks the girl hes seeing is.
Only weak fools would get married, stop the excuses about wanting kids and the not being selfish BS, stay single and childless and you will be more of a help to yourself and the planet.
QFT
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Once again, wishful thinking. The divorce horrors going on today do not justify the risks. Everyone fighting it out today and taking anti depressants because of a nasty breakup was once in love and many even had the imaginary god bs going on too.
Not, wishful thinking....I've lived it for 16 years now, my parents have lived it for 40 years, my grandparents lived it for 70 years, my sisters are all living it from 2-10 years and my best friend has been living it for 15 years and my sister and brother in law have been living it for 10 years.
Every aunt, uncle, cousin, grand parent, in-law and friend that is unhappy and failed at marriage and family didn't.....they chose to do it their way and all failed. They all lived for the world and made themselves idols.
Most men on this board would think I'm a little pansy because of my words.....LOL....makes me laugh. Men and women today need to shut up and nut up.
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Why bother discussing? Stick with your theories while those who are experiencing the opposite do the same. You've made up your mind. Roll with it.
Oh, and...
....Gayer than noticing men.....
nothing gayer than getting bent over in divorce court by a female, you surely will be dealing with that one day as you have the romance urge
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some of the nastiest divorces in the USA can be found in the Bible belt.
And? Droves of people that don't live for God live there.
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There's nothing wrong with having a family. Most of the nonsense can be avoided by not marrying a woman from the "western" culture.
Yeah.
Women in the "western" "culture" don't know their place anymore.
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Not, wishful thinking....I've lived it for 16 years now, my parents have lived it for 40 years, my grandparents lived it for 70 years, my sisters are all living it from 2-10 years and my sister, my best friend has been living it for 15 years and my sister and brother in law have been living it for 10 years.
Every aunt, uncle, cousin, grand parent, in-law and friend that is unhappy and failed at marriage and family didn't.....they chose to do it their way and all failed. They all lived for the world and made themselves idols.
Most men on this board would think I'm a little pansy because of my words.....LOL....makes me laugh. Men and women today need to shut up and nut up.
A good example of misery desperately seeking company.
I guess the hundreds of thousands of marriage jokes were written so only 0.1% of people get them
Stop your BS there,
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One should only get married when you're so f*ing loaded that it doens't matter and you can do pretty much anything you want in life anyways. As average Joe - NO WAY! You're a complete idiot to get married and have kids these days.
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Not, wishful thinking....I've lived it for 16 years now, my parents have lived it for 40 years, my grandparents lived it for 70 years, my sisters are all living it from 2-10 years and my best friend has been living it for 15 years and my sister and brother in law have been living it for 10 years.
Every aunt, uncle, cousin, grand parent, in-law and friend that is unhappy and failed at marriage and family didn't.....they chose to do it their way and all failed. They all lived for the world and made themselves idols.
Most men on this board would think I'm a little pansy because of my words.....LOL....makes me laugh. Men and women today need to shut up and nut up.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Most people I see getting married these days have no business doing so. They need to get their own lives together first. It's obvious that once the excitement wears off there's nothing there.
This is awesome to read and I know you're telling the truth. Like I said in another thread, when men are in a great relationship. They ACT differently and it is obvious. Many more years of happiness to you and the Mrs!
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A good example of misery desperately seeking company.
I guess the hundreds of thousands of marriage jokes were written so only 0.1% of people get them
Stop your BS there,
LOL!!!!
Yesterday my 5-year old daughter sat on my lap for half a game of Cowboys football helping me "cheer the footballs!!" Three times she leaned over and said, "Daddy, I love you." After the game I grilled steaks and chicken for my girls and then spent the evening with my wife relaxing, watching some of the Emmys, talking and her rubbing my shoulders on the couch.....then we went to bed with my wife cozied up to my back.
Yeah, it's pretty miserable. ;D
Put God first in your life friend....trust in him, trust in his word and see what happens.
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Not, wishful thinking....I've lived it for 16 years now, my parents have lived it for 40 years, my grandparents lived it for 70 years, my sisters are all living it from 2-10 years and my best friend has been living it for 15 years and my sister and brother in law have been living it for 10 years.
Every aunt, uncle, cousin, grand parent, in-law and friend that is unhappy and failed at marriage and family didn't.....they chose to do it their way and all failed. They all lived for the world and made themselves idols.
Most men on this board would think I'm a little pansy because of my words.....LOL....makes me laugh. Men and women today need to shut up and nut up.
Exactly.
Marriage is awesome!
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Most people I see getting married these days have no business doing so. They need to get their own lives together first. It's obvious that once the excitement wears off there's nothing there.
This is awesome to read and I know you're telling the truth. Like I said in another thread, when men are in a great relationship. They ACT differently and it is obvious. Many more years of happiness to you and the Mrs!
Lord willing I will live out all my remaining days with these beautiful ladies! ;)
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LOL!!!!
Yesterday my 5-year old daughter sat on my lap for half a game of Cowboys football "helping me cheer the footballs!!" Three times she leaned over and said, "Daddy, I love you." After the game I grilled steaks and chicken for my girls and then spent the evening with my wife relaxing, watching some of the Emmys, talking and her rubbing my shoulders on the couch.....then we went to bed with my wife cozied up to my back.
Yeah, it's pretty miserable. ;D
Put God first in your life friend....trust in him, trust in his word and see what happens.
There are 1000's of god and everyone who follows their god believes theirs is the right choice. Educate me on what god you suggest we follow? The one that just allowed a bunch of Christians to be beheaded for believing in him and putting their trust in him? Maybe the god that allowed over 100 people in saudi arabia last week to get killed while standing in a mosque? Or maybe the god that allowed millions of his followers to be thrown into gas chambers?
Please suggest a god
PS I have been waiting a while now for you to reply, your god will get very mad soon as you are not sticking up for his / her powerful being, I hope he dont send a flood to your home :-(
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The fact that the main argument over marriage in this thread is $$$$
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The fact that the main argument over marriage in this thread is $$$$
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Because that's how shallow most people and relationships are. Money and sex. That's it. That's all they've got.
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Because that's how shallow most people and relationships are. Money and sex. That's it. That's all they've got.
You are shallow and ignorant for thinking thats what its all about.
See people today change often. If you go 5 years without seeing someone in these days you will discover that in that 5 year period he got into this religion and that business and some other bs and all of a sudden might even be someone that is worried about fema camps and is a vegetarian and a yoga practitioner then he got into tattoos and burning man.
Before the good ol internet people changed too but not such drastic changes every 3 months. When you are married to someone else they might not be into the new you, it can create massive tension with or without love and regardless if you have god on your table or not.
I can go on and on but unfortunately must work too
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To make it short:
Fuck marriage.
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There are 1000's of god and everyone who follows their god believes theirs is the right choice. Educate me on what god you suggest we follow? The one that just allowed a bunch of Christians to be beheaded for believing in him and putting their trust in him? Maybe the god that allowed over 100 people in saudi arabia last week to get killed while standing in a mosque? Or maybe the god that allowed millions of his followers to be thrown into gas chambers?
Please suggest a god
PS I have been waiting a while now for you to reply, your god will get very mad soon as you are not sticking up for his / her powerful being, I hope he dont send a flood to your home :-(
Sorry to keep you waiting.....multi-tasking. ;)
There's only one God and we know him as our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Sounds again like you're outraged over the evil choices of people...I am too. I'm happy to discuss it with you if you really want.
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You are shallow and ignorant for thinking thats what its all about.
See people today change often. If you go 5 years without seeing someone in these days you will discover that in that 5 year period he got into this religion and that business and some other bs and all of a sudden might even be someone that is worried about fema camps and is a vegetarian and a yoga practitioner then he got into tattoos and burning man.
Before the good ol internet people changed too but not such drastic changes every 3 months. When you are married to someone else they might not be into the new you, it can create massive tension with or without love and regardless if you have god on your table or not.
I can go on and on but unfortunately must work too
So you're not cut out to accept someone for all their flaws and only want a partner to fit into parameters that you deem worthy.
That means you shouldn't marry that person to begin with...
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Marriage is the single worst contract a man can enter into-
There is not one worse, and if there is please feel free to share it with us.
If you have your hair, and have some money, not only will you always get laid and meet females, but you will be in even more demand once
you enter your 30's-40's...if your argument is that you want children, go and adopt...
I have sen this countless times.
Marriage is no longer a religious institution; it is a legal one that simply does not work.
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Marriage is the single worst contract a man can enter into-
There is not one worse, and if there is please feel free to share it with us.
If you have your hair, and have some money, not only will you always get laid and meet females, but you will be in even more demand once
you enter your 30's-40's...if your argument is that you want children, go and adopt...
I have sen this countless times.
Marriage is no longer a religious institution; it is a legal one that simply does not work.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Exactly.
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You are shallow and ignorant for thinking thats what its all about.
See people today change often. If you go 5 years without seeing someone in these days you will discover that in that 5 year period he got into this religion and that business and some other bs and all of a sudden might even be someone that is worried about fema camps and is a vegetarian and a yoga practitioner then he got into tattoos and burning man.
Before the good ol internet people changed too but not such drastic changes every 3 months. When you are married to someone else they might not be into the new you, it can create massive tension with or without love and regardless if you have god on your table or not.
I can go on and on but unfortunately must work too
I am saying those are the major focuses of relationships in this society which is why most relationships are abject failures. They have no substance and if you're talking about growth then that requires substance. When you have two people who have zero substance to either of their lives and they get together, the second someone isn't making them happy anymore they are OUT.
People will evolve and you must allow the other person that space to evolve BUT if you CHOOSE to be in a relationship it isn't all about you anymore. Most people are too selfish and self centered to care about the other person so it's all about me, me, me and my evolution. A good partner will allow you to grow and not stifle it but marriage/relationships isn't all about making yourself happy.
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So you're not cut out to accept someone for all their flaws and only want a partner to fit into parameters that you deem worthy.
That means you shouldn't marry that person to begin with...
I have seen this happen so many times. These men pick these women who have nothing but $ signs in their eyes. Then when his career hits a rough patch or he has a serious problem and there may not be anymore getaways to the islands or new bags every week things start going awry. This woman had nothing to offer in the first place except pretend support. She was just there for the ride. Be there when he really needs you but no...you were just in it for the status. You weren't there for HIM...the person.
I don't blame men for trashing gold diggers but I also don't feel sorry for them when they get blinded by T&A, blowjobs, and then the chick takes their money.
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There is no reason to get married.
I was married to a smokein Russian for a year and a half in my early twenties, im happily divorced and now i can fuck her if i want and drop her off without all the B.S But i dont even want to due to all the fucking nagging and bitching she did when we were married.
Happily Single staying in 6 month to a year relationships. Couldnt be happier, and that is the trueth
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There is no reason to get married.
I was married to a smokein Russian for a year and a half in my early twenties, im happily divorced and now i can fuck her if i want and drop her off without all the B.S But i dont even want to due to all the fucking nagging and bitching she did when we were married.
Happily Single staying in 6 month to a year relationships. Couldnt be happier, and that is the trueth
You sound like a winner. :D
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There is no reason to get married.
I was married to a smokein Russian for a year and a half in my early twenties, im happily divorced and now i can fuck her if i want and drop her off without all the B.S But i dont even want to due to all the fucking nagging and bitching she did when we were married.
Happily Single staying in 6 month to a year relationships. Couldnt be happier, and that is the trueth
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person remaining single....absolutely nothing.
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My answer to this dilemma is simple in order to break the cycle. Someone has to step up and step out and do the following:
first, love God and let him lead your life
second, love the one you marry
third, love the children you have together
four, love your family and teach your family to love God and each other
Engage in that behavior and success rates in marriage and family are very high.
Or, people are too scared to get a divorce because its not biblical, and stay in committed relationships because they do not want to be outcasted by their community and/or church. Thus, 1 or 2 people are putting on a "happy" face to appease their bible and community because they are too scared to get a divorce due to the different ramifications.
You have no way of demonstrating that religious marriages are more successful or happy than ones that are not. This is just more sophistry and pulling on the "heart strings" without being able to demonstrate any of this.
If you can demonstrate this via evidence, I will concede my point.
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Marriage is the single worst contract a man can enter into-
There is not one worse, and if there is please feel free to share it with us.
If you have your hair, and have some money, not only will you always get laid and meet females, but you will be in even more demand once
you enter your 30's-40's...if your argument is that you want children, go and adopt...
I have sen this countless times.
Marriage is no longer a religious institution; it is a legal one that simply does not work.
Yes, because marriage predates the bible. Marriage is a not a religious contract. It's a civil contract. It always has been. The religious zealots just want to make you think otherwise.
If you really want to go down that route, my best friend and his wife are nonreligious and get along wonderfully. They just had a baby about a year ago, purchased a new home. They pretty much are living the American dream. But of course theists, like MOS, will tell you that its impossible for my friend and his wife to be happy because they are not engaged in a religious marriage.
Religious people are cuckoo lol
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Or, people are too scared to get a divorce because its not biblical, and stay in committed relationships because they do not want to be outcasted by their community and/or church. Thus, 1 or 2 people are putting on a "happy" face to appease their bible and community because they are too scared to get a divorce due to the different ramifications.
You have no way of demonstrating that religious marriages are more successful or happy than ones that are not. This is just more sophistry and pulling on the "heart strings" without being able to demonstrate any of this.
If you can demonstrate this via evidence, I will concede my point.
No, no....the argument discussed was not that people married without God can't be happy. You've morphed the argument to suit your purposes.....you're straw manning the argument.
I did not say those married without God can't be happily married.....those are your words, your argument. Let's make that crystal clear.
The argument is that marriage in general is not a good situation and doesn't work.
My position was that marriage under God with love produces high success rates of marital stability.
I demonstrated that easily with my own family and friends that do so.
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But of course theists, like MOS, will tell you that its impossible for my friend and his wife to be happy because they are not engaged in a religious marriage.
Again, not at all what I stated. You are straw manning the argument and putting words in my mouth.
My post above reiterates what I said previously. I did not speak of infallibility, I spoke of high success rates in marriage when established under God and with love.
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No, no....the argument discussed was not that people married without God can't be happy. You've morphed the argument to suit your purposes.....you're straw manning the argument.
I did not say those married without God can't be happily married.....those are your words, your argument. Let's make that crystal clear.
The argument is that marriage in general is not a good situation and doesn't work.
My position was that marriage under God with love produces high success rates of marital stability.
I demonstrated that easily with my own family and friends that do so.
Logical fallacy. Can't point to your marriage and your friends marriage to say "marriage with God produces higher success rate and more marriage stability."
I can easily point to many nonreligious unions and say the same thing about them.
Do you have any evidence other than anecdotal? No, you don't. Until then, you don't have much to go on.
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Again, not at all what I stated. You are straw manning the argument and putting words in my mouth.
My post above reiterates what I said previously. I did not speak of infallibility, I spoke of high success rates in marriage when established under God and with love.
Can you demonstrate this, other than anecdotal evidence?
You also failed to take into account and NOT address the fact, which I discussed above, that many people who are in religious marriages may stay married due to fear of being ex-communicated from their church and/or community. I suspect this is a major problem, and have a sneaking suspicion that many religious women may keep quiet if they are in unhappy marriages. Religion instills this kind of fear and shame in people. Just because two people are together it does not mean its a successful or happy marriage. Thus, you can't assume because you see two religious people who are married, that it is happy or successful. You know, the whole "skeletons in closet" sort of thing.
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Its the same thing in the Jewish Orthodox community when it comes to child molestation.
If a child is molested and comes forth, they are expected via their community, to bring the charges to the rabbinical court. The rabbinical court then decides if the child who is molested should go to the authorities. In many instances, they are told to keep quiet. Now, the child may disobey the rabbinical court and go to the authorities anyway, but this often leads to ex-communication from the community and place of worship. Thus, the child and parents fear ex-communication and keeps their mouth closed and the vicious cycle continues.
Similarly, many people who are deeply religious may not get a divorce out of fear or shame and may stay in relationships despite being unhappy. They may live with this their whole lives. Thus, the need to stay connected to one's church and community most likely outweighs the need to get a divorce. So, these people stay in unhappy, and not successful marriages. And until you can take this into account as an extraneous variable, your argument holds little weight.
These are MAJOR issues in religious institutions and communities.
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Again, not at all what I stated. You are straw manning the argument and putting words in my mouth.
My post above reiterates what I said previously. I did not speak of infallibility, I spoke of high success rates in marriage when established under God and with love.
Sorry this is BS. The church is one of the main reasons men are so emasculated and trodden on by their wives. Please refrain from using your own personal experience and those of your small circle ( small when compared to the rest of the country) to prop up western marriage when the evidence and stats are out there.
50% success rate. A coin toss. Would you get on a plane with a 50% chance of safe arrival? And 70% of those "no fault" divorces initiated by the wives cus they have everything to gain from it.
Just say you are one of the lucky ones and leave it at that. Don't lead other men down the path of destruction because you won the lottery. That is evil and as you are supposedly a man of God, you should be leading men away from it.
What kind of devil would encourage someone to get on a plane with a 50% chance of crashing? Wouldn't you consider the person evil, wicked and callous?
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Facebook is da devil!
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Logical fallacy. Can't point to your marriage and your friends marriage to say "marriage with God produces higher success rate and more marriage stability."
I can easily point to many nonreligious unions and say the same thing about them.
Do you have any evidence other than anecdotal? No, you don't. Until then, you don't have much to go on.
Can you demonstrate this, other than anecdotal evidence?
You also failed to take into account and NOT address the fact, which I discussed above, that many people who are in religious marriages may stay married due to fear of being ex-communicated from their church and/or community. I suspect this is a major problem, and have a sneaking suspicion that many religious women may keep quiet if they are in unhappy marriages. Religion instills this kind of fear and shame in people. Just because two people are together it does not mean its a successful or happy marriage. Thus, you can't assume because you see two religious people who are married, that it is happy or successful. You know, the whole "skeletons in closet" sort of thing.
You simply reject the evidence because it doesn't conform with your worldview, but that doesn't negate anything I've said and your inappropriate charge of a logical fallacy doesn't hold any water.
I provided multiple real life examples and you simply respond with "nope doesn't count". That's a meaningless tactic LOL.
Your anecdotal bit is laughable to me. Genuinely, head shakingly, eye rollingly laughable. ;D "Do you have scientific studies to back up your claims?" LOL!! Makes me laugh. Let's sterilize this argument under the guise of "science". ::) I'll leave that for the world. ;D
Here's the reality, the anecdotal evidence is greatest resource people struggling in marriage can utilize. Your true marriage experts are those that have lived out happy marriages for years and years and years.
If a couple truly wants to save their marriage then go talk to some elderly couples that have been happily married for 75 years and have seen it all. Or you can go get a textbook LOL. ;D
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Sorry this is BS. The church is one of the main reasons men are so emasculated and trodden on by their wives. Please refrain from using your own personal experience and those of your small circle ( small when compared to the rest of the country) to prop up western marriage when the evidence and stats are out there.
50% success rate. A coin toss. Would you get on a plane with a 50% chance of safe arrival? And 70% of those "no fault" divorces initiated by the wives cus they have everything to gain from it.
Just say you are one of the lucky ones and leave it at that. Don't lead other men down the path of destruction because you won the lottery. That is evil and as you are supposedly a man of God, you should be leading men away from it.
What kind of devil would encourage someone to get on a plane with a 50% chance of crashing? Wouldn't you consider the person evil, wicked and callous?
You get on the plane when you fully love and trust your copilot and the plane.
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You simply reject the evidence because it doesn't conform with your worldview, but that doesn't negate anything I've said and your inappropriate charge of a logical fallacy doesn't hold any water.
I provided multiple real life examples and you simply respond with "nope doesn't count". That's a meaningless tactic LOL.
Your anecdotal bit is laughable to me. Genuinely, head shakingly, eye rollingly laughable. "Do you have scientific studies to back up your claims?" LOL!! Makes me laugh. Let's sterilize this argument under the guise of "science". Here's the reality, the anecdotal evidence is greatest resource people struggling in marriage can utilize. Your true marriage experts are those that have lived out happy marriages for years and years and years.
If a couple truly wants to save their marriage then go talk to some elderly couples that have been happily married for 75 years and have seen it all. Or go get a textbook LOL.
And, yes, you still can't provide evidence. Look, you can point to your marriage and a few others, but it still doesn't prove your point. You don't have the numbers to back up your view. Plain and simple. If there was a study that showed that religious marriages are WAY more successful than marriage ones, I bet you would have posted it ASAP!! And don't think otherwise. ::) ::)
Again, you still have not proven anything, as you can't demonstrate that religious people are more happy in marriage due to a number of extraneous variables (shame and fear of divorce, which is huge in religious communities, thereby causing people to stay married, despite being unhappy). Because I can easily point to many nonreligious couples who are happier than religious couples. Again, it gets us nowhere.
This is what religious people do: they make a claim, then when they are called out to present evidence, they present a few cases from their lives, and cross their arms and say "thats good enough." Well, sorry, it really isn't. Then when they get challenged, they say, "lol at the arrogant atheist." I know, I know, its shitty that people are just not going to accept your worldview, which does not conform to the reality as a whole. I am sure you wished we lived in the 17th century where such a claim would never be ridiculed. :D :D
Also, you just don't go to a textbook for answers. You do realize that research has investigated marriage by talking to couples who have been married for 75 years? Where do you think they get their data from? They examine relationships that have been successful. They examine marriages that have been unsuccessful. Its not perfect, but its better than your method--"my friend is religious and has a happy marriage, therefore relgious marriages last longer." haha lol. Brilliant. The craziness of religious people lol. Never ceases to amaze me. Wow! :D :D
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Sorry this is BS. The church is one of the main reasons men are so emasculated and trodden on by their wives. Please refrain from using your own personal experience and those of your small circle ( small when compared to the rest of the country) to prop up western marriage when the evidence and stats are out there.
50% success rate. A coin toss. Would you get on a plane with a 50% chance of safe arrival? And 70% of those "no fault" divorces initiated by the wives cus they have everything to gain from it.
Just say you are one of the lucky ones and leave it at that. Don't lead other men down the path of destruction because you won the lottery. That is evil and as you are supposedly a man of God, you should be leading men away from it.
What kind of devil would encourage someone to get on a plane with a 50% chance of crashing? Wouldn't you consider the person evil, wicked and callous?
Very poor analogy. Many of these divorces are harmless, mistakes that made and quickly fixed, with little lingering damage. Not all are catastrophic.
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Religion requires the suspension of logical thought. Not a shocker that the religious eschew the requirement of evidence to substantiate their ludicrous world views.
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And, yes, you still can't provide evidence. Look, you can point to your marriage and a few others, but it still doesn't prove your point. You don't have the numbers to back up your view. Plain and simple. If there was a study that showed that religious marriages are WAY more successful than marriage ones, I bet you would have posted it ASAP!! And don't think otherwise. ::) ::)
Again, you still have not proven anything, as you can't demonstrate that religious people are more happy in marriage due to a number of extraneous variables (shame and fear of divorce, which is huge in religious communities, thereby causing people to stay married, despite being unhappy). Because I can easily point to many nonreligious couples who are happier than religious couples. Again, it gets us nowhere.
This is what religious people do: they make a claim, then when they are called out to present evidence, they present a few cases from their lives, and cross their arms and say "thats good enough." Well, sorry, it really isn't. Then when they get challenged, they say, "lol at the arrogant atheist." I know, I know, its shitty that people are just not going to accept your worldview, which does not conform to the reality as a whole. I am sure you wished we lived in the 17th century where such a claim would never be ridiculed. :D :D
Also, you just don't go to a textbook for answers. You do realize that research has investigated marriage by talking to couples who have been married for 75 years? Where do you think they get their data from? They examine relationships that have been successful. They examine marriages that have been unsuccessful. Its not perfect, but its better than your method--"my friend is religious and has a happy marriage, therefore relgious marriages last longer." haha lol. Brilliant. The craziness of religious people lol. Never ceases to amaze me. Wow! :D :D
I can point to hundreds and hundreds of other mariages. My church alone is filled with hundreds and hundreds of folks committed to God and happily married under him. That's one church and tons of examples.
Quit with the "this is what religious people do" nonsense....it's in every one of your religious posts. Trust me, people on this board know your primary aim is to twist words and straw man arguments.
You're out of your depth on this topic.
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I can point to hundreds and hundreds of other mariages. My church alone is filled with hundreds and hundreds of folks committed to God and happily married under him. That's one church and tons of examples.
Quit with the "this is what religious people do" nonsense....it's in every one of your religious posts. Trust me, people on this board know your primary aim is to twist words and straw man arguments.
You're out of your depth on this topic.
You have no evidence that they are happily married because they have been together for X amount of years. How do you know they are happy? How do you know they are not just staying married because they feel like they need to? They may feel a strong sense of church community and fear that they will lose those ties if they get divorced.
And I can point to hundreds of nonreligious marriages where people are happy. Again, where does this get us? Nowhere.
You have no demonstrable evidence that religious couples are more happy or stay together longer than nonreligious ones. All you have is your anecdotal evidence, which is extremely weak. You then try to justify your statement by pointing to HUNDREDS of marriages in your church. Wow. You know these hundreds of couples in depth? You have talked to all of them in such a manner, that you have determined that they are all happy? Or are you just going by based on what you observe one day a week in church? Unless you see and talk to these HUNDREDS of couples every day and have intimate knowledge about each of their relationships? WOW!! You must be divinely inspired to possess such wordly knowledge.
Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me. You get backed into a corner, can't defend your proposition, then cross your arms! :D :D :D
It seems like you're out of depth with this topic. :D :D :D
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You have no demonstrable evidence that religious couples are more happy or stay together longer than nonreligious ones.
LOL, so desperate to make a point.
This isn't the argument. You have straw manned the argument at hand so you can make a point. I've told you this publically and privately twice today.
You have morphed the argument into something it isn't so you can make a case against me (big shocker ::) ) and I'm not allowing you to do that (as usual).
Then you pepper it with your patented red herring of "this is what religious people do". ;D It's foolishness, I see right through it every time and bat it away just as casually.
You will reject any evidence I put forth because of your worldview, presuppositions and anti-theism stance.....that is your normal.
As I told you privately:
Have marriage all figured out? Oh no, marriage according to the world is a mystery to me. That's why we have experts studying it and counseling and therapy and all sorts of resources to help people cope. We have volumes of sociological and psychological studies to assist folks. We have doctors, counselors and therapists devoted to marriage counseling. The world has a ton of study, research and resources available to it.
Thing is, I've needed none of it. Have just lived my life in accordance with God's will and put him first. Just takes care of itself and unfortunately some folks resent me for it. Not my problem.
Marriage under God with love between partners and family....that's crystal clear to me. I've lived it out and demonstrated it for others....it's a piece of cake for me. I've witnessed great grandparents, great aunts and uncles, grandparents, parents, siblings, friends, coworkers, etc....do the same in their marriages under God with love. Unfortunately every single divorce in my family has been initially grounded in a marriage not founded in God. Coincidence? LOL, no.
Not saying marriages without God can't be happy and lifelong, but the field of study you mention attests to the lack of success in it.....worldy marriage often requires it. Again, not impossible to sustain a happy devoted marriage without God, but generally that type of marriage is far less successful.
I give you real life examples in my own life and some of y'all say "that doesn't count". Balogna! ;D I cut out the middle man and give you meat that similar sociological stats are based upon and you reject it because a sociologist hasn't cut your steak for you. Sorry, but my grandparents marriage wasn't documented in the New England Journal of Medicine or Sociology Today LOL! Just foolishness....arguing to argue is all this is.
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Very poor analogy. Many of these divorces are harmless, mistakes that made and quickly fixed, with little lingering damage. Not all are catastrophic.
yes but the loneliness and hopelessness smothers you in a blanket of despair
a whirling vortex of darkness whispering sweet suffering in your ear
the future that was once full of hope lost forever
that beng said you get to smash loads of sluts 8)
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It's just painful to mentally picture 30-40 year olds in bars trying to pick up women.
We all know THAT GUY.
Brags about how fun it is, but in reality he is a sad, lonely man.
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LOL, so desperate to make a point.
This isn't the argument. You have straw manned the argument at hand so you can make a point. I've told you this publically and privately twice today.
You have morphed the argument into something it isn't so you can make a case against me (big shocker ::) ) and I'm not allowing you to do that (as usual).
Then you pepper it with your patented red herring of "this is what religious people do". ;D It's foolishness, I see right through it every time and bat it away just as casually.
You will reject any evidence I put forth because of your worldview, presuppositions and anti-theism stance.....that is your normal.
As I told you privately:
You said, "Again, not impossible to sustain a happy devoted marriage without God, but generally that type of marriage is far less successful."
Again, you have no way to prove this. That is what it ALL comes down to. I have called you on this ONE statement and you cannot prove anything. Just provide anecdotal evidence. That is not enough to make such a statement about marriage in GENERAL. I am sorry that you think it is. It is not.
At the end of the day you have no solid evidence to support the statement above. That is what it really comes down to. :D :D If you did, you would have presented that solid evidence. I bet you if there was some groundbreaking study that proved your proposition, you'd be posting it right now lol. There is none. Thus, you rely on weak forms of evidence, and expect everyone to accept it without being challenged. Again, your statement holds no water, except in your own mind.
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You said, "Again, not impossible to sustain a happy devoted marriage without God, but generally that type of marriage is far less successful."
Again, you have no way to prove this. That is what it ALL comes down to. I have called you on this ONE statement and you cannot prove anything. Just provide anecdotal evidence. That is not enough to make such a statement about marriage in GENERAL. I am sorry that you think it is. It is not.
At the end of the day you have no solid evidence to support the statement above. That is what it really comes down to. :D :D If you did, you would have presented that solid evidence.
Repost my post from above with all of it. ;D Ah, who cares? It's already there.
Silly....just silly tactics. ;D You're not fooling anyone.
I find it funny that you've neglected to leave "love" out the argument and simply focus only on God.....it's a straw man, bait and switch tactic. When my original premise included about 5 statements of love.
You want me to continue arguing against your invented, straw man argument that I've already answered. And because I answered you and it didn't trap me then you twist it further in saying I can't provide non-anecdotal evidence that "God only" marriages are more successful than "marriages without God". Was never what I argued, was never the original discussion.
You're morphing, twisting and straw manning this into something I never said or defended. You want it that way because then you can argue against me....without it you're out of your depth.
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yes but the loneliness and hopelessness smothers you in a blanket of despair
a whirling vortex of darkness whispering sweet suffering in your ear
the future that was once full of hope lost forever
that beng said you get to smash loads of sluts 8)
This is so eloquent, it deserves graphical representation
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Repost my post from above with all of it. ;D Ah, who cares? It's already there.
Silly....just silly tactics. ;D You're not fooling anyone.
And, yet, after all of this, you still have no evidence to support your proposition.
Trust me, you're not fooling anyone, since you practically get called out in every thread, and do your typical "song and dance" routine. :D :D
Makes claim. Asked to present evidence. Cant present sound evidence. Backs off and says, "youre not fooling anyone." haha lol. I love it! :D :D
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And, yet, after all of this, you still have no evidence to support your proposition.
Trust me, you're not fooling anyone, since you practically get called out in every thread, and do your typical "song and dance" routine. :D :D
Makes claim. Asked to present evidence. Cant present sound evidence. Backs off and says, "youre not fooling anyone." haha lol. I love it! :D :D
Again repost my entire reply. ;D Forget it, same song different verse.
You're continued straw manning and twisting is intellectual cowardice at its finest.
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Again repost my entire reply. ;D Forget it, same song different verse.
You're continued straw manning and twisting is intellectual cowardice at its finest.
Your entire reply doesn't matter. You have many hypotheses in your entire reply.
I am specifically talking about this reply: "Again, not impossible to sustain a happy devoted marriage without God, but generally that type of marriage is far less successful."
You do realize that you can have a very long reply and discuss different hypotheses within one statement. Thus, this is the statement that I want evidence for. You can address isolated statements in one reply. Yet, you still can't provide evidence for this one statement. Again, your same old "song and dance." :D :D
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Your entire reply doesn't matter. You have many hypotheses in your entire reply.
I am specifically talking about this reply: "Again, not impossible to sustain a happy devoted marriage without God, but generally that type of marriage is far less successful."
You do realize that you can have a very long reply and discuss different hypotheses within one statement. Thus, this is the statement that I want evidence for. You can address isolated statements in one reply. Yet, you still can't provide evidence for this one statement. Again, your same old "song and dance." :D :D
I told you that the "wealth of study on marriage", the number of marriage counselors, marital counseling groups, therapists, sociologists and psychologists devoted to the study of marriage attests to the world's need for help in marriage because clearly the world has a hard time getting it right on their own.
I then give you a dozen generation-spanning examples of lasting, loving, God-fearing marriages that have worked without a single day of any worldly marital counseling or studying and you simply cry, "doesn't count". LOL, ok....because you said so. I then speak of hundreds of marriages in a single church successful for the exact same reason and you reply with "I can find hundreds of nonbelievers that are married that are happy without God". Never said you couldn't...wasn't the argument and further I affirmed that I agreed with that notion. You want me to provide you non-anecdotal evidence that "marriage under God (conveniently leaving out notion of "love") works better than marriages without God". There isn't sufficient evidence from me that you will accept because of my faith....that's all it's about. Marriage is extremely personal and any examples I give from my family or church or friends or coworkers would all be lumped under the "non acceptable" category of "anecdotal". The entire argument is grounded upon a straw man that was twisted and invented for your own end.
What I posited was the following (my exact posts):
Marriage is easy when you.....oh what's that word....tip of my tongue.........always forget it.......wait, got it...."love".......yes, when you actually "love" the person you marry it's easy.
Now, if you "love" the person and get married in accordance with......wait.....what's that other word.....just had it......it's right there......"God".....yes, when you actually "love" the person and get married in accordance with "God" in your life it's easy.
What am I talkin about though? "Love" and "God" LOL? That's for weak-bodied, weak-minded sheep men in this fabulous 21st century of evolved, uber tolerant free thinkers. ::)
My answer to this dilemma is simple in order to break the cycle. Someone has to step up and step out and do the following:
first, love God and let him lead your life
second, love the one you marry
third, love the children you have together
four, love your family and teach your family to love God and each other
Engage in that behavior and success rates in marriage and family are very high.
You removed the idea of "love" out of it and then formed your straw man and made the rule that personal examples aren't allowed as evidence. You created and forced a straw man argument and then demanded specific terms (that you change capriciously) to suit your needs.
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you describe something very rare as only the cry in the corner types are getting married now. Normal men worth anything will not get married in these days regardless "how unique and special" he thinks the girl hes seeing is.
Only weak fools would get married, stop the excuses about wanting kids and the not being selfish BS, stay single and childless and you will be more of a help to yourself and the planet.
I'm 42, never married and childless. Yipee, I must be one of the normal ones. Had plenty of long term defacto relationships, last one ended a little over 12 months ago. Kind of happy/sad about it all at the same time. I wonder if I will ever work this shit out. But yeah, marriage and kids always seemed like a massive trap to me, always thought it was a fool's paradise.
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My answer to this dilemma is simple in order to break the cycle. Someone has to step up and step out and do the following:
first, love God and let him lead your life
second, love the one you marry
third, love the children you have together
four, love your family and teach your family to love God and each other
Engage in that behavior and success rates in marriage and family are very high.
Nonsense
First - God doesn't exist
Second - Rarely do two people actually love each other equally - One always has more (love) for the other, this in itself causes lots of problems. Not only this, what you call love appears to be nothing more than a complex web of biological process that occurs in younger people to enable procreation. Once this has happened the chemicals causing this process begin to dissipate, hence the 'lost love' feeling many married couples experience in the middle part of their marriages.
Third - Our children may have vastly different personalities to ourselves and no matter how much we try and love them, our real feeling will always emerge from the subconscious. It's not just a matter of saying, I love this child because it is mine.
Fourth - Once again, blindly choosing to love your family isn't necessarily wise, for they may be abusive or nonreciprocal, in which case your self esteem will be shattered after they use and abuse your unconditional loving ways. And teaching children to love god should be considered a toxic form of child abuse and punishable by imprisonment (I am serious). This last step alone could improve human relationships ten fold.
MOS I respect you, but you live in a fantasy world of your own making. Put simply, you are delusional, drunk on the hope that a divinity actually exists.
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marriage ain't for everbody, but it's been very very good for me (after maxing out my prime single years for as long as possible.)
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Nonsense
First - God doesn't exist
Second - Rarely do two people actually love each other equally - One always has more (love) for the other, this in itself causes lots of problems. Not only this, what you call love appears to be nothing more than a complex web of biological process that occurs in younger people to enable procreation. Once this has happened the chemicals causing this process begin to dissipate, hence the 'lost love' feeling many married couples experience in the middle part of their marriages.
Third - Our children may have vastly different personalities to ourselves and no matter how much we try and love them, our real feeling will always emerge from the subconscious. It's not just a matter of saying, I love this child because it is mine.
Fourth - Once again, blindly choosing to love your family isn't necessarily wise, for they may be abusive or nonreciprocal, in which case your self esteem will be shattered after they use and abuse your unconditional loving ways. And teaching children to love god should be considered a toxic form of child abuse and punishable by imprisonment (I am serious). This last step alone could improve human relationships ten fold.
MOS I respect you, but you live in a fantasy world of your own making. Put simply, you are delusional, drunk on the hope that a divinity actually exists.
LOL, you're going 50 levels deep unnecessarily and further still you grasp exactly what I'm saying.....you're arguing to argue because I'm a theist.
What I find funny is that you're actually defending against love in a healthy marriage. ;D
Marriages work when people love each other and promote that love in their families. When two people love each, want to love each other and continue loving each other for the remainder of their days the marriage is solid. Loving marriages established under God are even stronger.
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marriage... not in this day and age
social media made women the biggest whores ever
what's divorce statistics today, like 60+% right
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Your entire reply doesn't matter. You have many hypotheses in your entire reply.
I am specifically talking about this reply: "Again, not impossible to sustain a happy devoted marriage without God, but generally that type of marriage is far less successful."
You do realize that you can have a very long reply and discuss different hypotheses within one statement. Thus, this is the statement that I want evidence for. You can address isolated statements in one reply. Yet, you still can't provide evidence for this one statement. Again, your same old "song and dance." :D :D
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It's just painful to mentally picture 30-40 year olds in bars trying to pick up women.
We all know THAT GUY.
Brags about how fun it is, but in reality he is a sad, lonely man.
It's really sad to watch these 40 and 50 year old men Trying to compete with young guys for these girls. The only ones they ever manage to catch are the floozies who need to be rescued or bimbos that are trying to get a financial plan.
No women who actually have something going for themselves would be bothered with these types of guys
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Dear army of one, please post more comics. Thank you. :)
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It's just painful to mentally picture 30-40 year olds in bars trying to pick up women.
We all know THAT GUY.
Brags about how fun it is, but in reality he is a sad, lonely man.
my best years for pulling babes was in my early to mid 30s. (always lied about my age tho.)
but, I agree, it would've been silly continuing to play out that scene much beyond that.
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Very poor analogy. Many of these divorces are harmless, mistakes that made and quickly fixed, with little lingering damage. Not all are catastrophic.
Not poor at all, Very apt actually.
You haven't been at the front lines to see first hand what a catastrophe looks like.
Imagine an innocent hardworking man, Thrown in jail on thursday to get out on tuesday because of owed child support which he couldn't keep up with since he lost his job, and the judge wont readjust to match his new circumstances.
Put in jail with violent criminals ( Debtors prison is illegal right?) .... He is violently sexually asaulted over the weekend. and by thursday he is swinging from a rope in the bedroom of his shitty apartment. Having been evicted from a 4 bedroom house which his ex-wife and new lover now live in. Of course married life was great and the wife was the best thing ever until he lost his job and couldn't find another...
All in the span of 3 years...
I have plenty of stories like this. Not all end in suicide....Some situations are truly worse than death and thankfully many dont have the courage to go through with it.
You listen to some these mens stories and you can feel your soul tear....And then you hear somebody tell another man to put himself in a situation that could end like that, because "many divorces are harmless mistakes that leave no lingering damage". You hear that, and Its hard not to feel anger. Most people are blissfully unaware of what the feminist movement has done to the family court system and how it is set up to absolutely destroy the average man.
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Not poor at all, Very apt actually.
You haven't been at the front lines to see first hand what a catastrophe looks like.
Imagine an innocent hardworking man, Thrown in jail on thursday to get out on tuesday because of owed child support which he couldn't keep up with since he lost his job, and the judge wont readjust to match his new circumstances.
Put in jail with violent criminals ( Debtors prison is illegal right?) .... He is violently sexually asaulted over the weekend. and by thursday he is swinging from a rope in the bedroom of his shitty apartment. Having been evicted from a 4 bedroom house which his ex-wife and new lover now live in. Of course married life was great and the wife was the best thing ever until he lost his job and couldn't find another...
All in the span of 3 years...
I have plenty of stories like this. Not all end in suicide....Some situations are truly worse than death and thankfully many dont have the courage to go through with it.
You listen to some these mens stories and you can feel your soul tear....And then you hear somebody tell another man to put himself in a situation that could end like that, because "many divorces are harmless mistakes that leave no lingering damage". You hear that, and Its hard not to feel anger. Most people are blissfully unaware of what the feminist movement has done to the family court system and how it is set up to absolutely destroy the average man.
Actually, I didn't tell another man to put himself in the situation. I merely explained that many divorces don't have lingering damage, as the mistakes were recognized early.
And those are part of the data you are using to make a point. If 50% of marriages end in divorce, and a portion of that is not damaging, relating it to a 50/50 chance of a catastrophic event is incorrect.
I'd say it's more a fact that you're jaded because you've seen the worst of it.
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It's ok if you want to stay single if that's your personal choice. Another thing is to try to fool yourself by claiming marriage and women suck just because you can't get laid.
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It's ok if you want to stay single if that's your personal choice. Another thing is to try to fool yourself by claiming marriage and women suck just because you can't get laid.
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I'm 42, never married and childless. Yipee, I must be one of the normal ones. Had plenty of long term defacto relationships, last one ended a little over 12 months ago. Kind of happy/sad about it all at the same time. I wonder if I will ever work this shit out. But yeah, marriage and kids always seemed like a massive trap to me, always thought it was a fool's paradise.
i'm guessing...
you have good money, good hair, in shape, and have had 200+ sexual partners.
Am I close?
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I think he's posted pics and he's doing ok (no homo). But seriously, I have a friend who hasn't gotten laid in years (poor fella looks really bad) and his FB is full of pics with phrases against women and relationships.
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If there are millions of Hindu marriages where everyone in them is happy and they keep the focus on 'love and Vishnu'...does that make those gods real? Are they more real or less real than JC?
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If there are millions of Hindu marriages where everyone in them is happy and they keep the focus on 'love and Vishnu'...does that make those gods real? Are they more real or less real than JC?
People can be godless and happy in marriage.
People can be godless and happy being single.
There are no other gods.
Glad to help.
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If there are millions of Hindu marriages where everyone in them is happy and they keep the focus on 'love and Vishnu'...does that make those gods real? Are they more real or less real than JC?
Haha good catch.
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LOL, you're going 50 levels deep unnecessarily and further still you grasp exactly what I'm saying.....you're arguing to argue because I'm a theist.
What I find funny is that you're actually defending against love in a healthy marriage. ;D
Marriages work when people love each other and promote that love in their families. When two people love each, want to love each other and continue loving each other for the remainder of their days the marriage is solid. Loving marriages established under God are even stronger.
No I am arguing because you have some idealistic romantic concept of love, like you just read a knight in shining armour fairy tale book. Like God, love doesn't exist. Like I said it is nothing more than a chemical soup in our brains designed to trick us into reproducing. Once reproduction is over with the chemicals dissipate. Hence the reason you said "Want to love", because wanting to love someone means you don't actually love them but wish you did. If you stay in marriage despite not loving someone but 'wanting to love them' then that is incredibly unhealthy and damaging to one's psyche and self esteem. hence the reason so many marriages are miserable, they stay for all the wrong reasons.
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i'm guessing...
you have good money, good hair, in shape, and have had 200+ sexual partners.
Am I close?
I have 'enough' money to do as I please, I still have a full head of hair and not as many conquests as you predict. Maybe because I entered long term de facto relationships, so I may as well have been married, but I never could commit, and after a while women realise this and move on. Oh well. As for being in shape, I am probably in the best shape of my life right now, I just started my first cycle, just some test e and some dbol to kick start it, and I am in the third week and it is just starting to kick in, crazy libido, strength noticeably going up, recovery ability amazing all the stuff that goes along with it. I get a lot of interest from the older women but not so much the younger ones. And all the women my age are out of shape, miserable, completely damaged with at least 2-3 kids dragging behind them. It is depressing. Fortunately for me I enjoy my own company, have a large porn collection and always find something productive to keep me occupied.
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No I am arguing because you have some idealistic romantic concept of love, like you just read a knight in shining armour fairy tale book. Like God, love doesn't exist. Like I said it is nothing more than a chemical soup in our brains designed to trick us into reproducing. Once reproduction is over with the chemicals dissipate. Hence the reason you said "Want to love", because wanting to love someone means you don't actually love them but wish you did. If you stay in marriage despite not loving someone but 'wanting to love them' then that is incredibly unhealthy and damaging to one's psyche and self esteem. hence the reason so many marriages are miserable, they stay for all the wrong reasons.
Love is pretty easy in regards to your spouse....you either love them enough to be committed to them in a lifelong marriage or you don't.
Everything you describe isn't love. Marital love either is or isn't.....nothing hard about this. People play house a lot and end in divorce. They get married for the wrong reasons and love is secondary.....that ain't loving someone. Often times non-committal folks complicate love and turn the idea of love into something it isn't.
If you've never experienced genuine love then the concept is currently out of your depth. Banging chicks, moving bed to bed and living out of bars, clubs and all that mess....that ain't love....that's nothing.
I have no issue with dating or being single though.
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Most people are blissfully unaware of what the feminist movement has done to the family court system and how it is set up to absolutely destroy the average man.
Not me, I have been saying for twenty five years, ever since I heard about feminism that it will be the ruination of civilization. Want civilisation to become a circus, put a monkey in charge. Well that's what we have ladies and gentlemen, the least qualified among us are now running the show to the detriment of all, and all because a lot of men will do anything for a piece of poontang. Saying 'yes dear', 'you are so right dear' to anything a woman ever says, even if it is complete nonsense. Women told men that they were worthless pieces of shit and the majority of men simply bought in to it hook, line and sinker, because they didn't want to risk never getting laid or long periods of being alone. Those who didn't buy it and never married and/or had kids and went there own way and later in their lives realised their decision was the right one after witnessing countless friends and families marriages completely disintegrate, taking down all and sundry. Fuck feminism and fuck the cuckolded men who support and enable it.
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Love is pretty easy in regards to your spouse....you either love them enough to be committed to them in a lifelong marriage or you don't.
Everything you describe isn't love. Marital love either is or isn't.....nothing hard about this. People play house a lot and end in divorce. They get married for the wrong reasons and love is secondary.....that ain't loving someone. Often times non-committal folks complicate love and turn the idea of love into something it isn't.
If you've never experienced genuine love then the concept is currently out of your depth. Banging chicks, moving bed to bed and living out of bars, clubs and all that mess....that ain't love....that's nothing.
I have no issue with dating or being single though.
I have loved someone before, she didn't love me. Nothing more painful than this my friend. Unfortunately that type of 'true love' feeling rarely comes along if ever. Had she felt the same way I believe that may have been a good starting point but still the risk is high and I am not some heady idealist who believes that guarantees marital bliss. And this is what I alluded to earlier, rarely do two people love each other equally, normally one is less in love than the other, and this is where the problem starts, as they want to feel that deep love for someone so they go searching for it.
And I am not a 'Banging chicks, moving bed to bed and living out of bars, clubs' kind of guy. I will go out occasionally, but much prefer the idea of dating women.
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Not poor at all, Very apt actually.
You haven't been at the front lines to see first hand what a catastrophe looks like.
Imagine an innocent hardworking man, Thrown in jail on thursday to get out on tuesday because of owed child support which he couldn't keep up with since he lost his job, and the judge wont readjust to match his new circumstances.
Put in jail with violent criminals ( Debtors prison is illegal right?) .... He is violently sexually asaulted over the weekend. and by thursday he is swinging from a rope in the bedroom of his shitty apartment. Having been evicted from a 4 bedroom house which his ex-wife and new lover now live in. Of course married life was great and the wife was the best thing ever until he lost his job and couldn't find another...
All in the span of 3 years...
I have plenty of stories like this. Not all end in suicide....Some situations are truly worse than death and thankfully many dont have the courage to go through with it.
You listen to some these mens stories and you can feel your soul tear....And then you hear somebody tell another man to put himself in a situation that could end like that, because "many divorces are harmless mistakes that leave no lingering damage". You hear that, and Its hard not to feel anger. Most people are blissfully unaware of what the feminist movement has done to the family court system and how it is set up to absolutely destroy the average man.
I have tons of stories like this.
In America, you are a fool for getting married.
It's legal bondage forced on us by religious nutjobs.
I will never get married. If a women cannot accept the fact, fuck it. By the time I'm 50, I will care less about pussy anyway.
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Sorry to keep you waiting.....multi-tasking. ;)
There's only one God and we know him as our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Sounds again like you're outraged over the evil choices of people...I am too. I'm happy to discuss it with you if you really want.
So anyone that isn't Christian is going to hell? Let me guess, you read the bible like a history book, and actually believe everything in it? You think God is an actual being? Your religion is the one and only religion?
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1- Ao1 comics are hilarious
2- The 50% divorce rate is not true
3- God has nothing to do with a successful marriage, if you don't believe me, ask The Coach
4- SF 1900 destroying MOS in this thread as usual
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=580921.0;attach=651191;image)
Funny stuff Funk !! ;D
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Fuck feminism and fuck the cuckolded men who support and enable it.
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In America, you are a fool for getting married.
It's legal bondage forced on us by religious nutjobs.
I will never get married. If a women cannot accept the fact, fuck it. ;D
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Bingo!!..Well Said!
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marriage... not in this day and age
social media made women the biggest whores ever
what's divorce statistics today, like 60+% right
There is absolutely no reason to get married today. It's nothing more than a legally binding financial arrangement. The divorce laws are geared to reward women and ass-rape men.
Social media is the worst thing to happen to women... and men.
The divorce rate just over 60%.
I earn a 6 figure salary. I have complete liquidity and I am free to do whatever I want, when I want and how I want. I do not have to check with someone on how to spend/save my money. The feeling is indescribable... true freedom. The only way for a man to attain this freedom is to remain unmarried and childless.
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There is absolutely no reason to get married today. It's nothing more than a legally binding financial arrangement. The divorce laws are geared to reward women and ass-rape men.
Social media is the worst thing to happen to women... and men.
The divorce rate just over 60%.
I earn a 6 figure salary. I have complete liquidity and I am free to do whatever I want, when I want and how I want. I do not have to check with someone on how to spend/save my money. The feeling is indescribable... true freedom. The only way for a man to attain this freedom is to remain unmarried and childless.
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che, you need to show us some of that fancy footwork (salsa) again.
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I have tons of stories like this.
In America, you are a fool for getting married.
It's legal bondage forced on us by religious nutjobs.
I will never get married. If a women cannot accept the fact, fuck it. By the time I'm 50, I will care less about pussy anyway.
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Don't be so sure about that 50 thing!
I am also not totally against marriage if she is a professional and contributes equally to the estate. The worst thing about my divorce is my ex left as a wealthy women but never contributed a dime to the estate! In every one of these marriage threads I warn about the divorce laws and they do not just apply to men. My ex sister in law was the major bread winner in her marriage and had to give up half her retirement.
I know people from all walks of life that are divorced and that includes devout christians and one minister. Also I have had no problem finding women because I am older (and god forbid shave my head) and never go to bars. I now hang with a women worth more than me so it's all good. :)
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The majority of my friends have told me that entering into marriage and having children was the best decision of their lives.
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good stuff, radical pluto!
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che, you need to show us some of that fancy footwork (salsa) again.
Sorry Parker but I haven't done the Salsa in years .
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-Our children may have vastly different personalities to ourselves and no matter how much we try and love them, our real feeling will always emerge from the subconscious. It's not just a matter of saying, I love this child because it is mine.
You are so clueless , no wonder you can't keep a guy around.
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I'm in my early 20's and honestly, I have no clue if I'm gonna get married. I just can't see myself being with someone for 50 or more years. I am an introvert and prefer being alone, sure I like a girl's company, but I'd rather just have a nice dog and live the single life without any pressure to sacrifice my time and energy for someone else. I like my alone time a lot. Retiring at 40 and living off investments sounds fuking awesome. Moving off to a beach house and kayaking everyday with my dog and going fishing and hiking sounds a lot more appealing than raising kids and slaving away to support a wife and family.
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So say your married for years,, then divorce and now in your mid thirties or so...is it even possible to meet undamaged normal, sexy women your age without using tindr and facebook? Also all of your friends are married, and have kids, so social circle is basically nom existant...and the wife will likely remain friends with these people as your the asshole who didnt want kids, so your friend count is like 1-2 highschool buddies out of state lol. Sounds painful to think about
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I'm in my early 20's and honestly, I have no clue if I'm gonna get married. I just can't see myself being with someone for 50 or more years. I am an introvert and prefer being alone, sure I like a girl's company, but I'd rather just have a nice dog and live the single life without any pressure to sacrifice my time and energy for someone else. I like my alone time a lot. Retiring at 40 and living off investments sounds fuking awesome. Moving off to a beach house and kayaking everyday with my dog and going fishing and hiking sounds a lot more appealing than raising kids and slaving away to support a wife and family.
Are you currently in a serious relationship ?
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Are you currently in a serious relationship ?
Ya, its semi serious.
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Ya, its semi serious.
Do you love him ?
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Do you love him ?
Yes, I love him. I love how warm he feels inside of me and how he spasms and releases his seed inside my gaping butt hole.
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Yes, I love him. I love how warm he feels inside of me and how he spasms and releases his seed inside my gaping butt hole.
That's beautiful , you should marry him and have kids.
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You are so clueless , no wonder you can't keep a guy around.
You are terribly naive if you actually believe what you are saying. Human beings are programmed in such a way as to be repelled and attracted by personality traits, if our children have traits that trigger us to be repelled we love them less than our other children whose traits attract us. Unconditional love is an idealistic hippy myth. You have never seen family dynamics at work if you think parents love all their children equally, either that or you pretend to spend a lot of your time in deep denial of reality. Probably even more damaging are parents who pretend to love their children equally all the while their actions betray them, so not only does the child learn from the parents actions they are less loveable than their siblings but their parents don't even respect/love them enough to be honest with them.
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So say your married for years,, then divorce and now in your mid thirties or so...is it even possible to meet undamaged normal, sexy women your age
NO !
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Yes, I love him. I love how warm he feels inside of me and how he spasms and releases his seed inside my gaping butt hole.
LMFAO
getbig is awesome
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There is absolutely no reason to get married today. It's nothing more than a legally binding financial arrangement. The divorce laws are geared to reward women and ass-rape men.
I earn a 6 figure salary. I have complete liquidity and I am free to do whatever I want, when I want and how I want. I do not have to check with someone on how to spend/save my money. The feeling is indescribable... true freedom. The only way for a man to attain this freedom is to remain unmarried and childless.
you can't find any financially independent desirable women who can match your "6 figure salary?"
I do alright as a lawyer and my wife outearns me.
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There are 1000's of god and everyone who follows their god believes theirs is the right choice. Educate me on what god you suggest we follow? The one that just allowed a bunch of Christians to be beheaded for believing in him and putting their trust in him? Maybe the god that allowed over 100 people in saudi arabia last week to get killed while standing in a mosque? Or maybe the god that allowed millions of his followers to be thrown into gas chambers?
Please suggest a god
PS I have been waiting a while now for you to reply, your god will get very mad soon as you are not sticking up for his / her powerful being, I hope he dont send a flood to your home :-(
The fact dude is deeply religious SCREAMS he's on a brink of a desperation and insanity. This is the case with EVERY deeply religious person I've ever encountered. Usualy feel weak and scared. Religion is the last protection from a suicind for them. That is a factual reality and it doesn't matter what such a person would like you to believe.
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Have no idea why would I. No issues in this field that I could speak off.. Actually the more I live - the less worries I have regarding all that noise. Life is absurd, plain and simple and whatever you do - it will end up in a mess/death. So just try to survive for as long as possible with as less obstacles as possible. MOney would be the first priority. When you're rich - everyone, regardless of your age or whatever, want to see you, to greet you, to spend time with you. Humans are cheap animals, easily buy'able. Marriage... it's as stupid as most other stuff in life, if you're lucky (key word LUCKY) - it may be allright, if not - you'll just suffer more in this existence. Marriage before age 30 for a male usualy ends up in a disaster tho' (well unless a said male is butt ugly, short and bald. Having at least one pussy to fuck is better than nothing).
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No I am arguing because you have some idealistic romantic concept of love, like you just read a knight in shining armour fairy tale book. Like God, love doesn't exist. Like I said it is nothing more than a chemical soup in our brains designed to trick us into reproducing. Once reproduction is over with the chemicals dissipate. Hence the reason you said "Want to love", because wanting to love someone means you don't actually love them but wish you did. If you stay in marriage despite not loving someone but 'wanting to love them' then that is incredibly unhealthy and damaging to one's psyche and self esteem. hence the reason so many marriages are miserable, they stay for all the wrong reasons.
Love does exist................... ...................it is a contract haha... You give me something and I give you something, if we are both satisfied - we "love"each other. How cool would it be if that fairly tale state would last "forever". Oh well...
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I have 'enough' money to do as I please, I still have a full head of hair and not as many conquests as you predict. Maybe because I entered long term de facto relationships, so I may as well have been married, but I never could commit, and after a while women realise this and move on. Oh well. As for being in shape, I am probably in the best shape of my life right now, I just started my first cycle, just some test e and some dbol to kick start it, and I am in the third week and it is just starting to kick in, crazy libido, strength noticeably going up, recovery ability amazing all the stuff that goes along with it. I get a lot of interest from the older women but not so much the younger ones. And all the women my age are out of shape, miserable, completely damaged with at least 2-3 kids dragging behind them. It is depressing. Fortunately for me I enjoy my own company, have a large porn collection and always find something productive to keep me occupied.
I have a feeling you have it a lot better than most guys over 40. A healthy outlook too, that is very important.
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I have loved someone before, she didn't love me. Nothing more painful than this my friend. Unfortunately that type of 'true love' feeling rarely comes along if ever. Had she felt the same way I believe that may have been a good starting point but still the risk is high and I am not some heady idealist who believes that guarantees marital bliss. And this is what I alluded to earlier, rarely do two people love each other equally, normally one is less in love than the other, and this is where the problem starts, as they want to feel that deep love for someone so they go searching for it.
And I am not a 'Banging chicks, moving bed to bed and living out of bars, clubs' kind of guy. I will go out occasionally, but much prefer the idea of dating women.
Fukkin good analysis. I wonder too - whether it is possible to repeat that deep love feeling after the first one fails. I guess not really... Just like you won't get AS high from any drug you try for a first time, the second time.
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The majority of my friends have told me that entering into marriage and having children was the best decision of their lives.
Wait for ten years - most of them will be telling the different story.
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So say your married for years,, then divorce and now in your mid thirties or so...is it even possible to meet undamaged normal, sexy women your age without using tindr and facebook? Also all of your friends are married, and have kids, so social circle is basically nom existant...and the wife will likely remain friends with these people as your the asshole who didnt want kids, so your friend count is like 1-2 highschool buddies out of state lol. Sounds painful to think about
You will met PLENTY of other people in the same situation. They woudl be to simply be social and attend various activities where people gather for good time.
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I have a feeling you have it a lot better than most guys over 40. A healthy outlook too, that is very important.
12 ejaculations a day outlook.
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Have no idea why would I. No issues in this field that I could speak off.. Actually the more I live - the less worries I have regarding all that noise. Life is absurd, plain and simple and whatever you do - it will end up in a mess/death. So just try to survive for as long as possible with as less obstacles as possible. MOney would be the first priority. When you're rich - everyone, regardless of your age or whatever, want to see you, to greet you, to spend time with you. Humans are cheap animals, easily buy'able. Marriage... it's as stupid as most other stuff in life, if you're lucky (key word LUCKY) - it may be allright, if not - you'll just suffer more in this existence. Marriage before age 30 for a male usualy ends up in a disaster tho' (well unless a said male is butt ugly, short and bald. Having at least one pussy to fuck is better than nothing).
Yes, this is what I expected you to tell us.
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12 ejaculations a day outlook.
ROFL laughing. You're not wrong their Bigro, I have decided to see what all the fuss is about and running a cycle, and I probably did knock out nearly 12 the other day. Testerone hits my libido hard.
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ROFL laughing. You're not wrong their Bigro, I have decided to see what all the fuss is about and running a cycle, and I probably did knock out nearly 12 the other day. Testerone hits my libido hard.
I bet you cant wait to compare notes with your mates this weekend.
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Yes, this is what I expected you to tell us.
Makes no sense.
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I bet you cant wait to compare notes with your mates this weekend.
Not many mates left unfortunately, but the ones I do have are mighty. Getting too deep in relationships with the opposite sex over time while everyone else does the same and eventually your NON TRUE friends disappear. Just good to feel like a young man again once in a while.
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Not many mates left unfortunately, but the ones I do have are mighty. Getting too deep in relationships with the opposite sex over time while everyone else does the same and eventually your NON TRUE friends disappear. Just good to feel like a young man again once in a while.
Tell me about it. If I'm in a ltr, I STILL find time for people that I usualy relate to, yet some of them get balls deep into a relathionship and forget everything else. Then come back crying when it crumbles, yeah we are "friends" again. Humans are disgusting parasites on a constant search for benefit and most of them are not aware of that. Just received a PM on FB from my good friend, we haven't seen each other for a few weeks, I'm occupied with my bussiness, he's occupied with his. Just asked how am I doing and some other non important stuff, but that's nice, because he does not need anything from me, yet still finds time to catch up.
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Tell me about it. If I'm in a ltr, I STILL find time for people that I usualy relate to, yet some of them get balls deep into a relathionship and forget everything else. Then come back crying when it crumbles, yeah we are "friends" again. Humans are disgusting parasites on a constant search for benefit and most of them are not aware of that. Just received a PM on FB from my good friend, we haven't seen each other for a few weeks, I'm occupied with my bussiness, he's occupied with his. Just asked how am I doing and some other non important stuff, but that's nice, because he does not need anything from me, yet still finds time to catch up.
Life is a funny thing, growing older wasn't what I thought it would be. Just goes to show you I was a typical know it all kid I was growing up, I didn't know shit.
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you can't find any financially independent desirable women who can match your "6 figure salary?"
I do alright as a lawyer and my wife outearns me.
Independent women?... there is no such thing.
Good for you... you can divorce her and make a killing. You are a special case. Men typically earn much more money that a woman does.
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Life is a funny thing, growing older wasn't what I thought it would be. Just goes to show you I was a typical know it all kid I was growing up, I didn't know shit.
Truth. The more I started to understand about it - the less excited I became. Now I'd prefer to not understand, but this would mean either having a head injury or being dead.
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those here that work in big offices or have many guy friends have definitely heard this tale many many times:
puzzy whipped friend calls you:
Hey, I am very excited, I just met this girl, WOW she can be a model, she is so hot, I can't believe she is even interested in me. What really impressed me thou is how smart she is, she runs her own business, has money, no kids, and she is into the same exact things I am into. You know I am usually against all this long term relationship and marriage stuff, however this one is the exception, I want you to meet her asap you will see what I mean, she is amazing. You know I have been thinking, what is the point in life really? I am only getting older, I think I am ready to settle down and start a family. Her ex was a real jerk, she had a order of protection out against her, he stalks her nonstop, what a loser of a guy.
Fast forward a few week and you get a call:
Remember that girl I told you about? Shes back with her ex
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those here that work in big offices or have many guy friends have definitely heard this tale many many times:
puzzy whipped friend calls you:
Hey, I am very excited, I just met this girl, WOW she can be a model, she is so hot, I can't believe she is even interested in me. What really impressed me thou is how smart she is, she runs her own business, has money, no kids, and she is into the same exact things I am into. You know I am usually against all this long term relationship and marriage stuff, however this one is the exception, I want you to meet her asap you will see what I mean, she is amazing. You know I have been thinking, what is the point in life really? I am only getting older, I think I am ready to settle down and start a family. Her ex was a real jerk, she had a order of protection out against her, he stalks her nonstop, what a loser of a guy.
Fast forward a few week and you get a call:
Remember that girl I told you about? Shes back with her ex
lAl. It's called a pussy intoxication.
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Truth. The more I started to understand about it - the less excited I became. Now I'd prefer to not understand, but this would mean either having a head injury or being dead.
Life may not be eternal, bus the unsatisfactoriness of it is.
And young getbiggers stay out of this, this is the men talking here.
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Life may not be eternal, bus the unsatisfactoriness of it is.
And young getbiggers stay out of this, this is the men talking here.
Men as is humans that are in a situation they cannot get out of?
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those here that work in big offices or have many guy friends have definitely heard this tale many many times:
puzzy whipped friend calls you:
Hey, I am very excited, I just met this girl, WOW she can be a model, she is so hot, I can't believe she is even interested in me. What really impressed me thou is how smart she is, she runs her own business, has money, no kids, and she is into the same exact things I am into. You know I am usually against all this long term relationship and marriage stuff, however this one is the exception, I want you to meet her asap you will see what I mean, she is amazing. You know I have been thinking, what is the point in life really? I am only getting older, I think I am ready to settle down and start a family. Her ex was a real jerk, she had a order of protection out against her, he stalks her nonstop, what a loser of a guy.
Fast forward a few week and you get a call:
Remember that girl I told you about? Shes back with her ex
We are brainwashed into believing all this Politically Correct crap, the reality is we are primal beings with instincts barely more advanced than a chimpanzees. Women prefer violent men, they are just not allowed to tell you that. Violence and hot sex go hand in hand. So I have been told. ;D
I never hear of women brag about how their left wing tree hugging PC pacifist boyfriend fucked her like the animal she thinks she is.
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The fact dude is deeply religious SCREAMS he's on a brink of a desperation and insanity. This is the case with EVERY deeply religious person I've ever encountered. Usualy feel weak and scared. Religion is the last protection from a suicind for them. That is a factual reality and it doesn't matter what such a person would like you to believe.
No idea how to double quote on here but pretty funny how you talk about suicide, etc. in this quote and your opinion on religious people when 75% of your quotes in here reek of depression/unsatisfaction...
That is a factual reality and doesn't matter what you would like us to believe.
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Over the years watching many of my male friends I would say the reason they end up bitter and running through many women is because they choose women that would be terrible mates. These women are easily impressed by money or want someone to rescue them. These women have nothing to offer in terms of emotional support or otherwise. They are immature little girls with lots of makeup, tits and ass, and willing to do it whenever. They also play the role of supportive girlfriend but it's fake because they just let the guy do whatever. They pretend to support the guy but if shit hits the fan they are planning an escape. These types will also not call out the BS bc they don't want to lose the meal ticket.
Guys you have to look further than what she's telling you. Find someone who cares about you as a human being
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Over the years watching many of my male friends I would say the reason they end up bitter and running through many women is because they choose women that would be terrible mates. These women are easily impressed by money or want someone to rescue them. These women have nothing to offer in terms of emotional support or otherwise. They are immature little girls with lots of makeup, tits and ass, and willing to do it whenever. They also play the role of supportive girlfriend but it's fake because they just let the guy do whatever. They pretend to support the guy but if shit hits the fan they are planning an escape. These types will also not call out the BS bc they don't want to lose the meal ticket.
Guys you have to look further than what she's telling you. Find someone who cares about you as a human being
Quality Post. Wisdom often found in those who learned the hard way.
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I have loved someone before, she didn't love me. Nothing more painful than this my friend. Unfortunately that type of 'true love' feeling rarely comes along if ever. Had she felt the same way I believe that may have been a good starting point but still the risk is high and I am not some heady idealist who believes that guarantees marital bliss. And this is what I alluded to earlier, rarely do two people love each other equally, normally one is less in love than the other, and this is where the problem starts, as they want to feel that deep love for someone so they go searching for it.
And I am not a 'Banging chicks, moving bed to bed and living out of bars, clubs' kind of guy. I will go out occasionally, but much prefer the idea of dating women.
I'm sorry to hear that. Happens to the best of us unfortunately.
My entire point about marriage is super simple....if two people love each other it's very easy being married. Too many folks get married for the wrong reasons....having kids, having money together, convenience, peer pressure, family pressure, etc.....Nothing wrong with being single though. Still, if two folks love each and want to be together for the rest of their days it's really not that difficult. Every marriage has little scraps along the way and that's normal. Further, if you don't occassionally fight in a marriage something is off LOL.
I didn't mean to suggest you were "banging chicks, bars and all that"....was more of a generalization. ;)
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The fact dude is deeply religious SCREAMS he's on a brink of a desperation and insanity. This is the case with EVERY deeply religious person I've ever encountered. Usualy feel weak and scared. Religion is the last protection from a suicind for them. That is a factual reality and it doesn't matter what such a person would like you to believe.
utter nonsense LOL!
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No idea how to double quote on here but pretty funny how you talk about suicide, etc. in this quote and your opinion on religious people when 75% of your quotes in here reek of depression/unsatisfaction...
That is a factual reality and doesn't matter what you would like us to believe.
Depression? No. Unsatisfaction? Yes, of course. Its a human condition. Yet what I said about deeply religious people, they are at the critical state of that condition. Weak, scared and grabbing for straws(god). Its either that or alcohol/ drugs or a suicide. Sorry. Im lucky still to be able to fight this sober in every sense of it. Maybe Im just stronger.
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utter nonsense LOL!
Yes of course. Except that if there would be no of these reasons - you would not give a shit about god. Idk what it is that you are so scared off and why you feel weak, but it is serious enough to "seek god".
I am personally not afraid of dying, and everything else is trivial, so it just makes no sense to believe in any kind of god, I just dont give a shit and dont need a fukkin "help" from him. I am strong enough to take life as it is and you need to be intoxicated (by religion) to deal with it. Simple as that.