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Title: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

This fuckers going to burn, burn, burn.  
No doubt he is the False Prophet.  


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Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
man, did you see the speech where he says that having a personal relationship with jesus christ/god is dangerous and should be forbidden? I mean LOL, the vatican is nowhere near christian.

but is he the false prophet? could very well be. They sell "bibles" that teach about ancient religion basically in vaticans market place :D
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
man, did you see the speech where he says that having a personal relationship with jesus christ/god is dangerous and should be forbidden? I mean LOL, the vatican is nowhere near christian.

but is he the false prophet? could very well be. They sell "bibles" that teach about ancient religion basically in vaticans market place :D

Yeah, I know about that one as well. This shit is nuts!  I can't believe he'd openly say that.  The Roman Empire is back under the name of New World Order.  Strap in. Hee-Haw!
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: BigRo on September 25, 2015, 03:15:31 PM
if he did indeed use the world failure and its not an translation error then he means the opposite of what humans take it be success. In the eyes of the world it was an utter failure, he would not say that about the inner significance, whatever it was.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: 20inch calves on September 25, 2015, 03:19:45 PM
Of course he is a false prophet...he could be the anti Christ
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: hardgainerj on September 25, 2015, 03:20:53 PM
Of course he is a false prophet...he could be the anti Christ
he is a prophet because religion is false
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 03:22:11 PM
Yeah, I know about that one as well. This shit is nuts!  I can't believe he'd openly say that.  The Roman Empire is back under the name of New World Order.  Strap in. Hee-Haw!

I dunno... I mean the preaching of that crazy man is beyond crazy. He literally mixes lies with truth to confuse the pro-pope people, especially italians. Then there's the hyper sexual, do whatever you want, pedophlia is normal for men- culture that is promoted. Maybe vatican is just another field where confusion and mayhem is spread to utterly brainwash the new generation of kids. It's definitely an empire but I don't see any immigrants busting the popes castle, just everything else.

First, make people eat each other alive to the point where people are desperate for literally any change, no more opinions. Then the actual "leader of the free world" will show up and people will hail it's name no matter how sinister it may be.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Hulkotron on September 25, 2015, 03:22:20 PM
A reptilian?
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 25, 2015, 03:25:06 PM
Religion is bull......who cares about this clown?
Let's concentrate on life before death.....after deadth there's nothing.
Don't waste precious money om this shit.  >:(
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:25:54 PM
I dunno... I mean the preaching of that crazy man is beyond crazy. He literally mixes lies with truth to confuse the pro-pope people, especially italians. Then there's the hyper sexual, do whatever you want, pedophlia is normal for men- culture that is promoted. Maybe vatican is just another field where confusion and mayhem is spread to utterly brainwash the new generation of kids. It's definitely an empire but I don't see any immigrants busting the popes castle, just everything else.

First, make people eat each other alive to the point where people are desperate for literally any change, no more opinions. Then the actual "leader of the free world" will show up and people will hail it's name, no matter how sinister it may be.

Yes, this is what's going to happen.  They're making all our environments as bad as possible so we beg for intervention.  When we do we'll accept whomever the leader of the NWO will be. 
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 03:31:53 PM
Yes, this is what's going to happen.  They're making all our environments as bad as possible so we beg for intervention.  When we do we'll accept whomever the leader of the NWO will be.  

Yeah. Crazy times we live in.

I mean I'm as much full of shit as the next person, I don't consider my self worthy of christs forgiveness. I asked my grandma that even though I believe in in the word of god, but I still do all kinds of sin in my acts and thoughts, that am I still a christian? She said of course you are because you believe in christ. But she's my grandma, of course she would say that. I still think I'm nowhere near worth saving, I never believed in god because I wanted to secure my heaven pass, I always did believe in god since I was a kid, it's just the way it is no matter how superficial or two faced I am
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 25, 2015, 03:36:34 PM
Religion is bull......who cares about this clown?
Let's concentrate on life before death.....after deadth there's nothing.
Don't waste precious money om this shit.  >:(

+1
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:37:48 PM
Yeah. Crazy times we live in.

I mean I'm as much full of shit as the next person, I don't consider my self worthy of christs forgiveness. I asked my grandma that even though I believe in in the word of god, but I still do all kinds of sin in my acts and thoughts, that am I still a christian? She said of course you are because you believe in christ. But she's my grandma, of course she would say that. I still think I'm nowhere near worth saving, I never believed in god because I wanted to secure my heaven pass, I always did believe in god since I was a kid, it's just the way it is no matter how superficial or two faced I am

Even I don't consider myself worthy of Christs forgiveness.  But I try every day to do the best I can and to avoid the traps of Satan.  It's getting really crazy and they know how we'll react.  So no doubt they have massive tricks up their sleeves if we get out of line.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 03:40:39 PM
Even I don't consider myself worthy of Christs forgiveness.  But I try every day to do the best I can and to avoid the traps of Satan.  It's getting really crazy and they know how we'll react.  So no doubt they have massive tricks up their sleeves if we get out of line.


I chuckled to the "even I" ;D
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2015, 03:42:51 PM
+1

+2
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 25, 2015, 03:44:54 PM
This guy is a Satanist...Is he the 112th Pope? The Black Pope?

http://www.gotquestions.org/black-pope.html
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 03:45:47 PM
today religion is pretty much bull, I wouldn't ask a priest for street directions. But god is good, all the time

This guy is a Satanist... As are all the other fake brews who run shit..

u were too slow on your edit, bruh
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:47:25 PM
I chuckled to the "even I" ;D

I put there because people have this perception that I think I'm high in mighty.  No, I'm not.  I just know the truth and what we're supposed to be doing and I'm spreading the word.  I still struggle with sin like everyone else.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 03:48:24 PM
I put there because people have this perception that I think I'm high in mighty.  No, I'm not.  I just know the truth and what we're supposed to be doing and I'm spreading the word.  I still struggle with sin like everyone else.

I was just playing m8

Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 25, 2015, 03:51:30 PM
today religion is pretty much bull, I wouldn't ask a priest for street directions. But god is good, all the time

u were too slow on your edit, bruh

lol ;)
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: che on September 25, 2015, 03:53:58 PM
  I just know the truth

You don't know shit
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
You don't know shit

No. Never met him.  But I know the BIBLE.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: che on September 25, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
No. Never met him.  But I know youtube
Fixed
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 03:59:00 PM
is death by execution not understood as a failure in normal human terms


He said what he came here to do.  He fulfilled it.  100% success rate.  Fuck this "normal human terms" bullshit.  He defined success, he achieved it. End of story.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2015, 04:12:16 PM
From a chilean friend...


"A nosotros nos corresponde sembrar. Y Dios ve los frutos de esta fatiga, lo tienen en nuestros refuerzos y hachazos, tenemos que recordar que seguimos a Jesucristo. Cuya vida, humanamente hablando, terminó en el fracaso de la cruz."

He said the life of Jesus, as a human being (humanamente hablando), ended in a failure.



This is not a mistranslation.  This is a spit in the face of Christ. And us believers need to take notice as to who/(m) we're dealing with. Keep in mind he's the first Jesuit Pope.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 25, 2015, 04:14:16 PM
he is a prophet because religion is false

Bingo...


Lol at giving a shit what some old fucker in a robe says. Lol at sheep
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Azure on September 25, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
The life of Jesus the man did end in failure.  He was killed by the religious leaders and Roman authority.  His ministry was supposed to be kaput but we know the story did not end there.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Fortress on September 25, 2015, 05:34:53 PM
I put there because people have this perception that I think I'm high in mighty.  No, I'm not.  I just know the truth and what we're supposed to be doing and I'm spreading the word.  I still struggle with sin like everyone else.

High "in" mighty, huh?

You're a delusional chump, bub.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: blinky on September 25, 2015, 05:38:51 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

This fuckers going to burn, burn, burn.  
No doubt he is the False Prophet.  


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ive been wondering this as well for a while now
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: OB1 on September 25, 2015, 05:40:15 PM
This guy is a Satanist...

x2
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 25, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
If i was desperate enough, or stupid enough to accept even a grain of truth in this ludicrous fairytale, plagiarised from the various other fairytales that preceded it, then i don’t consider HIM worthy of MY forgiveness!

He’s the one that has asked me to surrender all reason, logic and critical thinking ability by accepting this claim that he cast himself down from heaven as the seemingly more benign and forgiving version of himself, to sacrifice himself intentionally in an act of public torture and execution, knowing full well he isn’t actually going to die, and all in order to bind me into this contract which holds me accountable for this fake execution that i never even witnessed, thereby sacrificing my free will and making me into a slave, whereupon i must accept all the terms of this contract if i wish to somehow survive death and hang out with everyone for all eternity in some celestial fucking Disneyland, or disregard it and face an eternity of burning in a lake of fire.

Jesus owes as all an apology for that one.


k
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2015, 08:10:36 PM
Jesus demonstrated His obedience, power, and authority when He WILLINGLY died (and when he rose from the dead).

John 10:17-18

"The Father loves me because I sacrifice my life so I may take it back again. No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded."
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 26, 2015, 12:18:03 PM
x2

The red hat of Saturn(Satan)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M5mQhY1RgcI/TCtJkmqli5I/AAAAAAAAJAc/SDUoexSZ_Nw/s400/a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Papper on September 26, 2015, 03:58:15 PM
He's probably muslim! Wouldn't surprise me, christians are giving away their land
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Marty Champions on September 26, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Bingo...


Lol at giving a shit what some old fucker in a robe says. Lol at sheep
u should biggest land owner in the world
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The_Punisher on September 26, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
Can someone ask the Poop what he thinks of the Book of Revelation?.....
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
I put there because people have this perception that I think I'm high in mighty.  No, I'm not. I just know the truth and what we're supposed to be doing and I'm spreading the word.  I still struggle with sin like everyone else.

And no arrogance either, awesome.

Seriously, though, dude used to have some sense.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Scott on September 27, 2015, 06:41:42 AM
I put there because people have this perception that I think I'm high in mighty.  No, I'm not.  I just know the truth and what we're supposed to be doing and I'm spreading the word.  I still struggle with sin like everyone else.
You spread fertilizer. 
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 27, 2015, 07:06:53 AM
Maybe he actually is Lucifer in sheep's clothing?

What is his purpose?
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 27, 2015, 08:02:35 AM
And no arrogance either, awesome.

Seriously, though, dude used to have some sense.
Devil worshipper :D. You know he must have burned more than a few in his past.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 27, 2015, 08:07:29 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

This fuckers going to burn, burn, burn.  
No doubt he is the False Prophet.  


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False prophet for a false religious organization. 
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: TheGrinch on September 27, 2015, 08:38:29 AM
video removed? ???
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 27, 2015, 08:45:55 AM
video removed? ???

Illuminati took care of it.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: TheGrinch on September 27, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Fortress on September 27, 2015, 09:49:44 AM
Put the pope on the end of a rope.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 27, 2015, 10:18:55 AM
Put the pope on the end of a rope.

X2
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Las Vegas on September 27, 2015, 10:23:44 AM
^Are you saying he's a fool?
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Bigblackstallion on September 27, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
Religion is CO-OPTED

If you look closely, Catholics have more Rituals than all the religions of the World.

It's all pomp, bread and circuses.  Spirituality is NOT ritualistic.  It is spontaneous.  The spirit of love IS spontaneous.

notice how BORING and BLAND that shit is.  They got the masses WORSHIPPING a man to get to God????

Read the bible to a little kid and they will laugh at you.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: devilsmile on September 27, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Religion is CO-OPTED

If you look closely, Catholics have more Rituals than all the religions of the World.

It's all pomp, bread and circuses.  Spirituality is NOT ritualistic.  It is spontaneous.  The spirit of love IS spontaneous.

notice how BORING and BLAND that shit is.  They got the masses WORSHIPPING a man to get to God????

Read the bible to a little kid and they will laugh at you.


As a true believer I agree with you totally, too many phony "christians" spreading lies out there confusing the hell out of people, can't blame you guys
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Las Vegas on September 27, 2015, 10:43:22 AM
Quote
^Are you saying he's a fool?

Pic of him in the Black Sabbath shirt would have been from about the time that song was released, too... I think it's a fake.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 27, 2015, 12:17:31 PM
Religion is CO-OPTED

If you look closely, Catholics have more Rituals than all the religions of the World.

It's all pomp, bread and circuses.  Spirituality is NOT ritualistic.  It is spontaneous.  The spirit of love IS spontaneous.

notice how BORING and BLAND that shit is.  They got the masses WORSHIPPING a man to get to God????

Read the bible to a little kid and they will laugh at you.


No. Shorties, with unbridled imagination, will lap it up hook-line-sinker, like Santa, Tooth Fairy, and the Taylor Bunny. Rational adults are the ones who should be more critical.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 11:38:47 AM
Religion is CO-OPTED

If you look closely, Catholics have more Rituals than all the religions of the World.

It's all pomp, bread and circuses.  Spirituality is NOT ritualistic.  It is spontaneous.  The spirit of love IS spontaneous.

notice how BORING and BLAND that shit is.  They got the masses WORSHIPPING a man to get to God????

Read the bible to a little kid and they will laugh at you.


I've read bible stories to my 5-year old....only time she laughed is when I farted while reading.

She did ask some good questions for a child though.  Where is God?  How do we see God?  Can we talk to God?  Why did people not like Jesus?
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: DanM on September 28, 2015, 12:47:55 PM
The roman catholic church is the beast
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 01:03:14 PM
What answer did you give her, for each of those questions?

In terms a small child could understand I spoke to her about God's heaven, the life of Jesus Christ, prayer, the Holy Spirit and the ugliness of some people.

Again, in simple words a child can understand.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 01:51:45 PM
Ok, but what actually were the simple answers that you gave to those questions, or what answers would you give to those questions if an adult asked them with genuine curiosity?

1. Where is god?
2. How do we see god?
3.Can we talk to god (and does he talk back)?
4. Why did people not like Jesus?
Adult answers:

1) His heaven is the third heaven that exists outside the bounds of our universe...a transcendent, spiritual place where God's holy kingdom resides. The first heaven is our earthly atmosphere, the second heaven is the expanse of the universe and the 3rd heaven is God's kingdom beyond that.  God is not "the man living in the clouds" with fat, baby angels playing harps.

2) God's nature is divine and he expresses that nature in a trinity of persons in Father, Son and Spirit.  The Father is Spirit and the Holy Spirit is spirit, but the Son exists in the form of humanity in the person of Jesus Christ.  People have seen God through the incarnate son in Jesus Christ and one day believers will again see him face to face.  We see God in the goodness and seemingly infinite expanse of his creation.  We see God in his holy word.  We see God in his body of believers.  We see God in his redemptive work on Calvary's cross.

3)  We speak to God in moments of prayer.  For most God does not speak in an audible voice, but he has to some both past and present.  He communicates to some in dreams and visions and for believers today it's the tangible presence of his Holy Spirit made manifest in our lives that's an amazing personal communicative experience (hard to even describe).  His spirit literally exists within his believers...attached to us at the soul (if you will).  More so than sight and sound, but the feeling of God indwelling his apostles is what emboldened them to move forward with his great commission proclaiming his death and resurrection, his righteouness, grace, mercy, justice and love.  And doing so bodly without shame until their lives were extinquished.

4) It was the Pharisetical leadership in the Sanhedrin that despised Jesus and his teachings and charged him with blasphemy for proclaiming himself the messiah and claiming equality with God.  The pharisees were repeatedly exposed and outwitted by Christ for their self-serving, disingenuous behaviors and they hated him for it and recruited the assistance of the Roman government to capture, brutally punish and ultimately put him to death via crucifixion at Golgatha (or Calvary).  The pharisees held great influence and power over the Jewish people and easily managed to turn the throngs of Jewish people against Christ.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Fortress on September 28, 2015, 04:31:01 PM
1) His heaven is the third heaven that exists outside the bounds of our universe...a transcendent, spiritual place where God's holy kingdom resides. The first heaven is our earthly atmosphere, the second heaven is the expanse of the universe and the 3rd heaven is God's kingdom beyond that.  God is not "the man living in the clouds" with fat, baby angels playing harps.

2) God's nature is divine and he expresses that nature in a trinity of persons in Father, Son and Spirit.  The Father is Spirit and the Holy Spirit is spirit, but the Son exists in the form of humanity in the person of Jesus Christ.  People have seen God through the incarnate son in Jesus Christ and one day believers will again see him face to face.  We see God in the goodness and seemingly infinite expanse of his creation.  We see God in his holy word.  We see God in his body of believers.  We see God in his redemptive work on Calvary's cross.

3)  We speak to God in moments of prayer.  For most God does not speak in an audible voice, but he has to some both past and present.  He communicates to some in dreams and visions and for believers today it's the tangible presence of his Holy Spirit made manifest in our lives that's an amazing personal communicative experience (hard to even describe).  His spirit literally exists within his believers...attached to us at the soul (if you will).  More so than sight and sound, but the feeling of God indwelling his apostles is what emboldened them to move forward with his great commission proclaiming his death and resurrection, his righteouness, grace, mercy, justice and love.  And doing so bodly without shame until their lives were extinquished.

4) It was the Pharisetical leadership in the Sanhedrin that despised Jesus and his teachings and charged him with blasphemy for proclaiming himself the messiah and claiming equality with God.  The pharisees were repeatedly exposed and outwitted by Christ for their self-serving, disingenuous behaviors and they hated him for it and recruited the assistance of the Roman government to capture, brutally punish and ultimately put him to death via crucifixion at Golgatha (or Calvary).  The pharisees held great influence and power over the Jewish people and easily managed to turn the throngs of Jewish people against Christ.

You sound like a pleasant and decent man, but you're out of your (reasonable) mind. Thoroughly brainwashed and delusional. And the horror is, you're poisoning your child's vulnerable mind with the same madness. Brainwashing her. My parents did the same to me. They didn't consider what they were doing. It never dawned on them. They had been brainwashed, as well. I love them. But this is the truth. Without wanting to suggest my mind is better, I was able to escape from the mental paralysis that happens when one has been brainwashed.

Passing such superstition on to children is child abuse, plain and simple.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
You sound like a pleasant and decent man, but you're out of your (reasonable) mind. Thoroughly brainwashed and delusional. And the horror is, you're poisoning your child's vulnerable mind with the same madness. Brainwashing her. My parents did the same to me. They didn't consider what they were doing. It never dawned on them. They had been brainwashed, as well. I love them. But this is the truth. Without wanting to suggest my mind is better, I was able to escape from the mental paralysis that happens when one has been brainwashed.

Passing such superstition on to children is child abuse, plain and simple.


Always thought I'd just let my hypothetical kids decide for themselves, without personally introducing it. Thought that, for these children I never, ever wanted and therefore never had, it'd be the fairest way to proceed. What with the promise of an afterlife and all, who am I to piss on hope and whatnot with my cynical common sense and reason? Knock yourselves out, kids I ain't havin'!

Completely reevaluated and vetoed that approach. I couldn't, in good conscience, allow these imaginary children to endure the same fear and hopelessness I felt knowing I COULDN'T choose what I believed, yet a make-believe monster is going to torture me eternally for exactly that. Object to much, obviously, but it's the one part I simply couldn't let slide.

Without rendering any judgment here, I do find that aspect sort of abusive, yeah. To mine, I mean, knowing they'd possibly inherit my innate skepticism.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 28, 2015, 06:24:09 PM
You sound like a pleasant and decent man, but you're out of your (reasonable) mind. Thoroughly brainwashed and delusional. And the horror is, you're poisoning your child's vulnerable mind with the same madness. Brainwashing her. My parents did the same to me. They didn't consider what they were doing. It never dawned on them. They had been brainwashed, as well. I love them. But this is the truth. Without wanting to suggest my mind is better, I was able to escape from the mental paralysis that happens when one has been brainwashed.

Passing such superstition on to children is child abuse, plain and simple.

Hopefully he sends his kid to college for their sake, or someone calls social services. I consider this child abuse really. Its setting them up for failure
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2015, 07:32:48 PM
Hopefully he sends his kid to college for their sake, or someone calls social services. I consider this child abuse really. Its setting them up for failure

Social services, for what? Raising a Christian?

Listen to yourself.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 28, 2015, 07:59:05 PM
Social services, for what? Raising a Christian?

Listen to yourself.

Arm chair christianity or "hobby" christianity is fine IMO. Want to believe there is an afterlife? Cool, fine by me...

but mOS is a fundamentalist and all consumed. Fundamentalism is not good to subject children to. Im definitely listening to myself. Children NEED to grow up neutrally with this stuff and learn on their own, not be indoctrinated
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Arm chair christianity or "hobby" christianity is fine IMO. Want to believe there is an afterlife? Cool, fine by me...

but mOS is a fundamentalist and all consumed. Fundamentalism is not good to subject children to. Im definitely listening to myself. Children NEED to grow up neutrally with this stuff and learn on their own, not be indoctrinated

Please just address the question:

Social Services, this collection of deadend pensioners who allow unmarried ghettos and crackheads to litter a f'n pay-by-day motel with 10-plus partially-clothed, dirty, unfed future felons, and you're thinking they''ll rescue MoS's kids from Christian abuse?

Please reconsider your post.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 09:06:34 PM
You sound like a pleasant and decent man, but you're out of your (reasonable) mind. Thoroughly brainwashed and delusional. And the horror is, you're poisoning your child's vulnerable mind with the same madness. Brainwashing her. My parents did the same to me. They didn't consider what they were doing. It never dawned on them. They had been brainwashed, as well. I love them. But this is the truth. Without wanting to suggest my mind is better, I was able to escape from the mental paralysis that happens when one has been brainwashed.

Passing such superstition on to children is child abuse, plain and simple.

Congrats on your escape!

After careful consideration I've decided to continue raising my child with my wife.  Our family will have a Christian home.

But thanks!
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 09:10:24 PM
Arm chair christianity or "hobby" christianity is fine IMO. Want to believe there is an afterlife? Cool, fine by me...

but mOS is a fundamentalist and all consumed. Fundamentalism is not good to subject children to. Im definitely listening to myself. Children NEED to grow up neutrally with this stuff and learn on their own, not be indoctrinated

I'm just a Christian....loud and proud!  I represent Christ.

Thanks so much for the commentary....super helpful!

Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 28, 2015, 09:15:39 PM
You sound like a pleasant and decent man, but you're out of your (reasonable) mind. Thoroughly brainwashed and delusional. And the horror is, you're poisoning your child's vulnerable mind with the same madness. Brainwashing her. My parents did the same to me. They didn't consider what they were doing. It never dawned on them. They had been brainwashed, as well. I love them. But this is the truth. Without wanting to suggest my mind is better, I was able to escape from the mental paralysis that happens when one has been brainwashed.

Passing such superstition on to children is child abuse, plain and simple.

I think MOS is a good guy, but this answer hits the nail on the head. Delusional, brainwashed, all of it. Pure superstition with zero proof.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2015, 09:17:35 PM
Please just address the question:

Social Services, this collection of deadend pensioners who allow unmarried ghettos and crackheads to litter a f'n pay-by-day motel with 10-plus partially-clothed, dirty, unfed future felons, and you're thinking they''ll rescue MoS's kids from Christian abuse?

Please reconsider your post.

Social Service system, to a great extent, is a dead system, not because the workers do not care or allow parents to get away with abuse.

There are larger people and systems that the daily social worker has to answer to, as well as other issues (having gigantic, unrealistic caseloads, in which all clients are severely mentally ill) that they have to contend with. Its a broken system, but not at the level of the "deadened pensioner" as you aptly describe. Bitch move. Please reconsider your post. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 28, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
at the end of the day, the bible is just another book, a book some shmuck wrote some thoughts down in, and was changed and added to over the years. Its no different than say if I went out and followed my favorite book, On The Road by Kerouac and started hopping trains and all that shit. Its a book, some people follow it, some people dont. Doesnt mean theres a god  ::) . Also, Jesus today would be seen as David Blaine type character, which he probably was back in his day, Cept they didnt stand for that shit and hung him out to dry. And he never rose from the dead, what a load of shit.

Who, I ask WHO the fuck came up with this hokey shit called religion? What a crock.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 28, 2015, 09:23:25 PM
Social Service system, to a great extent, is a dead system, not because the workers do not care or allow parents to get away with abuse.

There are larger people and systems that the daily social worker has to answer to, as well as other issues (having gigantic, unrealistic caseloads, in which all clients are severely mentally ill) that they have to contend with. Its a broken system, but not at the level of the "deadened pensioner" as you aptly describe. Bitch move. Please reconsider your post. Thank you.

Im on Social Services, Canadian version, called the SAID program (cause Ive got a fried brain  :D ). I talk with my worker a lot and they are beyond understaffed, sometimes having 100 clients for every worker. Its way worse in the States. Sure its a broken system, but like SF says, not at the level of the deadened pensioner. SF1900's answer is a really good one. Well done
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2015, 09:32:37 PM
Im on Social Services, Canadian version, called the SAID program (cause Ive got a fried brain  :D ). I talk with my worker a lot and they are beyond understaffed, sometimes having 100 clients for every worker. Its way worse in the States. Sure its a broken system, but like SF says, not at the level of the deadened pensioner. SF1900's answer is a really good one. Well done

Thank you!

This is exactly it. In MANY states, the average social worker can have up to 100 children/families on their caseloads. Many of these cases are highly volatile cases, consisting of children who are highly aggressive and dangerous and often suicidal. Its not uncommon for social workers to just eventually "break down." Can you imagine having hundreds of phone calls to make and any phone call you miss or do not make, is on your ass, especially if a child commits suicide. Its a very stressful situation to be in. The caseloads and demands are unrealistic for any ONE human being to contend with. As such, people fall through the cracks, i.e., children are left with abusive parents, clients don't get the quality of care they truly need, etc. Of course there are BAD social workers, but there are bad workers in every field. The WHOLE system needs to be fixed, especially at the top. When examining a large system like the social work system, its usually not at the level of the worker that is the problem. It starts up top.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 09:46:43 PM
By the way fellas. ..the "concerned atheist child abuse" angle is covered about twice a year LOL.

So guess it's back to the ole drawin board.

It was a cute attempt though....I actually smiled and rolled my eyes while readin the posts and takin a dump.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 09:48:01 PM
Now come the "seriously we're really concerned" follow-ups... ;D

Please post them anyways!  ;D
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 28, 2015, 09:55:14 PM
By the way fellas. ..the "concerned atheist child abuse" angle is covered about twice a year LOL.

So guess it's back to the ole drawin board.

It was a cute attempt though....I actually smiled and rolled my eyes while readin the posts and takin a dump.

If its any consolation i couldnt give a shit whether ur kid becomes the pope or gets hit by a bus

But i fukin hate kids
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2015, 09:56:40 PM
I'm just a Christian....loud and proud!  I represent Christ.

Thanks so much for the commentary....super helpful!



Not an armchair or "hobby" Christian?
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2015, 09:57:20 PM
If its any consolation i couldnt give a shit whether ur kid becomes the pope or gets hit by a bus

But i fukin hate kids

But Potato is your kid!!
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 09:58:42 PM
If its any consolation i couldnt give a shit whether ur kid becomes the pope or gets hit by a bus

But i fukin hate kids
Aaaaaaand we're back....lesson learned
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
Social Service system, to a great extent, is a dead system, not because the workers do not care or allow parents to get away with abuse.

There are larger people and systems that the daily social worker has to answer to, as well as other issues (having gigantic, unrealistic caseloads, in which all clients are severely mentally ill) that they have to contend with. Its a broken system, but not at the level of the "deadened pensioner" as you aptly describe. Bitch move. Please reconsider your post. Thank you.

How so? Ok, done. No prob.

Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 28, 2015, 10:00:40 PM
Aaaaaaand we're back....lesson learned

What lesson? I hate kids..I dont know you....why would i care 1 iota about your kid?

Potato is the ex's dog.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 10:00:46 PM
Not an armchair or "hobby" Christian?

I've been told I'm over qualified for both options.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2015, 10:02:47 PM
How so? Ok, done. No prob.



Thank you for your service.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2015, 10:03:35 PM
Thank you for your service.

Anytime, broskie.
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
What lesson? I hate kids..I dont know you....why would i care 1 iota about your kid?

Potato is the ex's dog.

Oh the lesson was learned by me.  ;)
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Set It Up on September 28, 2015, 10:12:25 PM
This will be my forever answer on religious stuff

You cant prove your god theories and we atheists cant prove ours. Its a never ending argument. The end
Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: The Wizard on September 29, 2015, 01:36:02 AM
I agree with Mr Fry

Title: Re: The Pope said Christ's life ended in failure at the cross.
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2015, 02:01:50 AM
This will be my forever answer on religious stuff

You cant prove your god theories and we atheists cant prove ours. Its a never ending argument. The end
The burden of proof lies with he who affirms.