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On TCM tonight. A MUST SEE film which could lead to some interesting discussion here. Even if you've seen it before, it's well worth watching again.
Here's a well written overview:
I went into this film with the knowledge that it had been the second film in history to win the 'top five' Oscars (for Best Picture, Best actor, Best actress, Best director and best screenplay) and has been praised as "one of Jack Nicholson's finest roles" and "one of the classics of the 70's". Naturally, after hearing all this, I had high expectations for One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. But nonetheless, I was surprised at how easily the film surpassed my expectations and easily led me to understand how it merited all that praise.
Based on the novel by Ken Kesey, the story follows Randle Patrick McMurphy (Jack Nicholson), who, in an attempt to get out of spending more time in prison, pleads insanity for his crime, and is therefore sentenced to time in a mental institution. This was McMurphy's intention, as he believes the conditions in a "crazy house" will be significantly easier to contend with than another harsh stay in prison. However, he quickly finds out that surviving the institution with it's desolate patients (including Christopher Lloyd, Danny DeVito, Vincent Schiavelli and an absolutely brilliant Brad Dourif as the stuttering Billy Bibbit) and the monstrously repressive Nurse Ratchet (Louise Fletcher, in a career defining role) is considerably harder than he imagined. McMurphy plays pranks, horseplay, and is generally defiant to the rules of the institution in an attempt to raise spirits. His constant optimism and reckless defiance to the out of date rules in the institution can be very uplifting, and often quite funny as well, but much of the movie can be very depressing - the generally decrepit state of the institution is a consistently (and intentionally) bleak background to a superb story with a truly bittersweet ending.
Jack Nicholson is at his best here, head and shoulders above other excellent performances such as in 'Chinatown' or 'As Good as it Gets'. McMurphy is an apparently unquenchable optimist, refusing to succumb to the defeated spirit of all the other patients. His livewire antics, inspiring the patients are generally uplifting, and when his indomitable spirit is finally broken, we really feel for him and his fellow patients. Nicholson conveys the essence of McMurphy to perfection, demonstrating his excellent understanding and interpretation of the character. When McMurphy announces that he is going to lift a huge stone fountain and hurl it through the window to escape, the other patients are so caught up in his intoxicating spirit of freedom that they honestly believe he can do it, despite the fact it would be impossible for a man much stronger than him. When McMurphy finally discovers that despite his best efforts, he cannot lift the fountain, he is so openly crushed that we can't help but feel for him. Beneath the frequent profanities and livewire antics, there are real human emotions, which come across as truly touching.
What can be said about One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest which hasn't already been said? It has an excellent storyline, top notch acting, painfully bleak visuals, perfectly setting the tone for the movie, and alternates between being truly uplifting to devastatingly depressing. It features perhaps the most memorable film ending ever, next to a man on his horse riding off into the sunset, and leaves the viewer beaten down by the conflicting emotions, unaware what to think of the picture next to reveling in it's glorious entirety. It's hard to produce a final outcome any better than this.
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Seen it many times, One of Nicholsons best roles/films beside The Shining and The Raven.
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Very good movie...saw it a few times bit only once in its entirety....I actually did a psychology paper on the movie for my Master's degree program
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Another amazing movie from the 70's.
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an absolute gem of a film
jacks performance is unbelievable
a tragic tale with an element of hope
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They don't make movies like that anymore.
Today we just have crass comedies and reboots.
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One of the best films of all time
The ending chokes me up now thinking about it.
"You're coming with me"
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Love it. Great flick. Ken Kesey hated it.
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ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST does not try to make a statement about mental illness or how the unstable should be treated. Rather, it is a very simple portrait of the long days and hilarious scenarios that can come about when a mixed bag of suffering people are thrown together. Mental illness is nothing to laugh about, but the fact that Nicholson is not really crazy allows us to be amused.
This movie may be 40 years old, but it hasn't lost any of its relevancy. OK, we don't put our mentally ill people in that kind of prisons anymore, the bars in front of the windows have gone and now we call it hospitals in stead of nut houses. But the treatment hasn't changed all that much. I once worked in such a hospital as a volunteer and still saw things like forced feeding, giving people so much medication until they no longer know who or where they are,...
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" (1975) is a film you'll appreciate more as you mature. I saw it a few times when I was younger and, while I thought it was good, I didn't 'get' a lot of the insights the film conveys. Viewing it again recently, I 'got' it.
It ranks as one of the best in my book alongside "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction". See this movie with the highest expectations and chances are it will surpass them!
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Pea-culiar.
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Love it. Great flick. Ken Kesey hated it.
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shame :-\
Released in 1975, Milos Forman's staggering film of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (adapted from Ken Kesey's equally brilliant semi-autobiographical 1962 novel) remains arguably the most relevant, accurate and powerful cinematic analysis of mental illness and corruption of power ever. It became just the second film ever to win the five major Academy Awards and was shown in Swedish cinemas for 12 years, which remains a national record in Sweden. Yet at the time the critical reception of the movie was still rather uneven (though deservedly that's improved over time), and Kesey vehemently refused to watch it as the story wasn't told from the point of view of Chief Bromden like it is in the novel.
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Probably my favorite movie of all time. Along with The Godfather and Rocky.
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Absolutely watch this film, it is one of the best films of all time. Saw it in the theater when I was 14, you can imagine the impression that Nicholson had on me :o
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Probably my favorite movie of all time. Along with The Godfather and Rocky.
Yeah, great great movie, amazing play by Nicholson... Condolences for your dog bro, sorry for being late, it really sucks, be strong...
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Seen it many times, One of Nicholsons best roles/films beside The Shining and The Raven.
One of the best stills ever..
(http://cdn28.us2.fansshare.com/photos/jacknicholson/jack-nicholson-the-shining-333035738.jpg)
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One of the best stills ever..
(http://cdn28.us2.fansshare.com/photos/jacknicholson/jack-nicholson-the-shining-333035738.jpg)
the book the shining is much better than the film
good as jack is
you can always paint a darker picture in your head
the sense of uneasiness and dread pervade the book much better
also the journey in to madness
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"As good as it gets" was rubbish. Rubbish I say!
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One of the best stills ever..
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the book the shining is much better than the film
good as jack is
you can always paint a darker picture in your head
the sense of uneasiness and dread pervade the book much better
also the journey in to madness
The only book I actually had to put down because it was so `scary.`
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The only book I actually had to put down because it was so `scary.`
Honestly?
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Honestly?
Yup. But I was, like, 11 so cut me a bit of slack. ;D
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They don't make movies like that anymore.
Today we just have crass comedies and reboots.
What, are you telling me you don't think X-Men XVIII is a timeless masterpiece?
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Yup. But I was, like, 11 so cut me a bit of slack. ;D
Not criticizing. Never read it, but your post makes me want to. Your thoughts on The Stand? This will give me perspective.
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In my imagination I replace that woman by Andreisdachimp...
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Not criticizing - never read it, but your post makes me want to. Your thoughts on The Stand? This will give me perspective.
Read it years ago. Too effin`long. I just finished it to finish it. I know some people say it`s his best, but I didn`t get it. I much preferred his other long book, ĚT.`
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Another amazing movie from the 70's.
x1000
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Love it. Great flick. Ken Kesey hated it.
Stephan King hated the Shining. One the the best Horror movies of all time. Stephan King didn't have the intelligence to get Stanley Kubrick...
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Great flick......I`ll probably watch it again.
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Read it years ago. Too effin`long. I just finished it to finish it. I know some people say it`s his best, but I didn`t get it. I much preferred his other long book, ĚT.`
Ok, my thoughts exactly. Except I didn't feel compelled to finish.
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Stephan King hated the Shining. One the the best Horror movies of all time. Stephan King didn't have the intelligence to get Stanley Kubrick...
Think you're right. For reference, compare it to the 'made for TV' version he endorsed.
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Love it. Great flick. Ken Kesey hated it.
Stephen King hated the movie adaptation of The Shining; maybe Nicholson's womanising was the issue.
Not sure if it has been said but this was one of 3 movies to win the big 5 oscars - best movie, director, actor, actress and screenplay. Silence of the Lambs was last one to do it (1991) and It Happened One Night (1934) was the other... never seen the latter but first two are deserving of such greatness.
Nurse Ratchet fucking over the free spirit in the name of rules and "she knows what's best" is just like the shitty nanny state world we live in now where any alternative opinions are shot down and legislators push their version of "what is best for us" down our throats - enabled by the docile and clueless masses, just like the vote on the World Series failed cos of all the vegetables on the ward.
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Stephen King hated the movie adaptation of The Shining; maybe Nicholson's womanising was the issue.
Not sure if it has been said but this was one of 3 movies to win the big 5 oscars - best movie, director, actor, actress and screenplay. Silence of the Lambs was last one to do it (1991) and It Happened One Night (1934) was the other... never seen the latter but first two are deserving of such greatness.
Nurse Ratchet fucking over the free spirit in the name of rules and "she knows what's best" is just like the shitty nanny state world we live in now where any alternative opinions are shot down and legislators push their version of "what is best for us" down our throats - enabled by the docile and clueless masses, just like the vote on the World Series failed cos of all the vegetables on the ward.
Wonderful flick. Capra. Not quite screwball comedy, but close. A great story, and in-and-out in 90 minutes - today's Hollywood should take heed.
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Stephan King hated the Shining. One the the best Horror movies of all time. Stephan King didn't have the intelligence to get Stanley Kubrick...
Perhaps he didn't like it because it had a good ending, something King isn't familiar with?
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Perhaps he didn't like it because it had a good ending, something King isn't familiar with?
Well, he disliked it, for one, because the book ended in fire and Kubrick ended it with ice. Apparently, the tenor of the Overlook spirit, was a big issue for King.
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Something about his wife in The Shining made me want to bash her head in too. Seemed like a nagging whiny bitch.
Cuckoos Nest...brilliant film with all around great acting. Poor Billy Bibbit...went from overnight rockstar to suicide...all within a day.
Imagine this generation nothing, looking back and all they'll have are Kardashian reruns. I can't think of many modern movies that are close to many older films.
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Something about his wife in The Shining made me want to bash her head in too. Seemed like a nagging whiny bitch.
Cuckoos Nest...brilliant film with all around great acting. Poor Billy Bibbit...went from overnight rockstar to suicide...all within a day.
Imagine this generation nothing, looking back and all they'll have are Kardashian reruns. I can't think of many modern movies that are close to many older films.
The wife in cuckoos nest has punchable face/10.
Cuckoos nest was before i was born. Issue is kids now think 2 years ago is old. Most kids now dont know who clint eastwood is.
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Cuckoos nest was before i was born. Issue is kids now think 2 years ago is old. Most kids now dont know who clint eastwood is.
True, they don't even know Mel Tormé!
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Something about his wife in The Shining made me want to bash her head in too. Seemed like a nagging whiny bitch.
Cuckoos Nest...brilliant film with all around great acting. Poor Billy Bibbit...went from overnight rockstar to suicide...all within a day.
Imagine this generation nothing, looking back and all they'll have are Kardashian reruns. I can't think of many modern movies that are close to many older films.
If any of the stuff in this theory below is true, than the wife played the part perfectly of a sexually abusive husband who she was scared to death of...
https://vimeo.com/101113745
Interesting take on Kubrick making The Shining as a Holocaust film
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/89719/kubrick%E2%80%99s-holocaust-film
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The wife in cuckoos nest has punchable face/10.
Cuckoos nest was before i was born. Issue is kids now think 2 years ago is old. Most kids now dont know who clint eastwood is.
What wife?
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What wife?
Sorry i meant the shining.
She reminds me of chief brodie's wife in jaws except with the eyes of a bratz doll.
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Well, he disliked it, for one, because the book ended in fire and Kubrick ended it with ice. Apparently, the tenor of the Overlook spirit, was a big issue for King.
Can you elaborate a bit?
Also heard he was unhappy with Kubrick glossing over Torrance's alcoholism.
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The end of this movie almost brought tears to my eyes. The music playing while the big Indian lifts the water fountain and the determination he shows to get out, all after helping his friend pass on, is an emotional roller coaster. I'm man enough to admit that it is a very moving film.
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Something about his wife in The Shining made me want to bash her head in too. Seemed like a nagging whiny bitch.
Cuckoos Nest...brilliant film with all around great acting. Poor Billy Bibbit...went from overnight rockstar to suicide...all within a day.
Imagine this generation nothing, looking back and all they'll have are Kardashian reruns. I can't think of many modern movies that are close to many older films.
70s was a great film decade, possibly the greatest. 90s, too. Think audiences just got stupid and lazy after.
Popular threads here about the next Batman, Superman, or Captain Avenger and the Fantastic League of Iron X-Guardians should help clarify why studios just focus on crap anymore.
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Mmm. Juicyfruit.
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Mmm. Juicyfruit.
"Hit me."
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It's on in 20 minutes! ;D
Lol @ the betting with cigarettes scene " I bet a nickel" "I bet a dime" "you don't get two nickels, you get shit"....
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It's on in 20 minutes! ;D
Lol @ the betting with cigarettes scene " I bet a nickel" "I bet a dime" "you don't get two nickels, you get shit"....
"This is not a dime, Martini."
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Going in to watch that bad boy.
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